The Game — Follow Up
September 13, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Well, it looks like sales for The Game is still going strong. I’m happy to say that in the first week of release, it got as high as #9 on the amazon.com top 100 list, which is pretty amazing. In fact, it even reached #1 on the UK version of amazon!
I spoke with Neil Strauss over the weekend, and he was immensely pleased with the outpouring of support the community has shown both him and his book. He knew there would be a couple people who attacked him for what he wrote, but he never thought the response would be so overwhelmingly positive. He asked me to thank you all for helping to make the book a success.
Neil will be travelling around doing book signings and other publicity for a while, so be sure to help him out by recommending the book to others. Not only is it a great read, but it can also be a way to get friends of yours into the community.
If you’re in San Francisco, you can meet Neil Strauss tomorrow, September 14th, live and in person at one of his book signings. Here’s the info:
Book Signing Info:
——————
DATE: Wednesday September 14, 2005
TIME: 7:30pm
LOCATION: Books Inc.
2251 Chestnut
San Francisco, CA
415-931-3633
The book signing here in LA was a blast, and I’m sure the one in San Fran will be awesome too. If you’re lucky, maybe Neil will do what he did here and take everyone out to dinner afterwards! You won’t have a better opportunity to meet one of the best in the game.
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Yea style U pimp
I want to live just like Neil Strauss “The Pimp”. I loved the book, the drama, the excitement, the bitches, everything.
Is there a disfunctional house looking 4 an obsessive compulsive room mate???? Hit me up.
Is Neil doing a signing Miami If so Let us Know TC.
MESSAGE TO STYLE
So you think the community loves you eh?
Guess again Scumbag. Only the ripoffs clinging to your skirt love you.
Wait a couple weeks till it sinks in to players what you’ve done. Hows’ it feel to have your name forever linked to traitors/ like the Sammy Bull Gravano, or Hitler.?
Hey How bout a new opener?
Whos worse? Style
Or Hitler?
I mean one screwed the jews
the other _____________.
“Whos worse? Style
Or Hitler? ”
Jesus dude, get yourself together. One of those was directly responsible for 6 million concentration camp deaths and dozens of millions of other deaths.
The other wrote a fucking book.
Guess I’m a ‘ripoff clinging to Style’s skirt’ for saying that.
“STYLE THE SELL OUT”
You win. Your infinite wisdom surpasses your purile anger and frustration; frustration over being found out for being a fraud, a scammer of women.
This is NOT “Fight Club”, this should not be a secret. You should be proud to have the opportunity to tap into ancient wisdom like this. As Eric von Sydow (aka “Hypnotica”) once said, “You’re not learning anything new, you’re tapping back into the tradition of what it means to be a Man.”
I openly tell people I’m into learning how to communicate well with women – parents, my FEMALE manager at work, my FEMINIST professors at college, my girl friends. And, you know what? Because I don’t attempt to make a secret of my desire to be a desirable Man, because I don’t live in a “lair” or feel ashamed for any of this, 90% of all them respond with “Wow, that’s really cool that you would go to all that trouble to learn how to appreciate a woman”. I said ‘appreciate’, not ‘manipulate’.
I said it before and I’ll say it again, Style’s book is a godsend to this so-called ‘community’. It will expose the frauds and their shady lines, freeing us all of these pre-scripted lifestyles and allowing us to live our own lives…for us. Not for the sake of marking another girl on the bedpost or getting 3 “Day 2′s” in one week, but for simple reason that it makes you happy. Intriguing concept.
Neil Strauss, my hat goes off to you. Can’t wait to meet you this Friday.
Best,
Dalton K. Finney
Poor guy, Style took away your crutches. Either make your own original routines that won’t be detected or stop depending on them and just be you. If you think that crutchless you is something she won’t be attracted to (AFC) then you’ve work to do until it is.
[quote]I openly tell people I’m into learning how to communicate well with women – parents, my FEMALE manager at work, my FEMINIST professors at college, my girl friends. And, you know what? Because I don’t attempt to make a secret of my desire to be a desirable Man, because I don’t live in a “lair” or feel ashamed for any of this, 90% of all them respond with “Wow, that’s really cool that you would go to all that trouble to learn how to appreciate a woman”. I said ‘appreciate’, not ‘manipulate’. [/quote]
In other words, you’re letting the women do the choosing, being honest yourself, and if you’re the type of provider they want, they’ll choose you. Right back where you started.
Do the women feel appreciated when you show them what you learned in all this? Did two of them agree to an MLTR with you? What about the UGs? How’d they feel about not being pretty enough to be appreciated? Did they get wet when you negged them?
[blockquote]Poor guy, Style took away your crutches. Either make your own original routines that won’t be detected or stop depending on them and just be you. If you think that crutchless you is something she won’t be attracted to (AFC) then you’ve work to do until it is[/blockquote]
The whole thing about the community was that we didn’t have to be funny, witty, tall, rich, popular, cool, or whatever to get laid. We had an edge that’s gone now and we’ll never get it back. For that we have Style The Bull to “thank.”
You don’t have to be tall or rich, tho they can be an edge. If you’re not fun or cool to be around, then how do you expect to be popular? Or are you only fun and confident when your delivering someone elses lines and routines?
It sounds like you’re putting all the power in the routine or prop and ignoring the power of the delivery.
Strange, I thought the whole thing about the community was to to swap ideas to change and improve your attitude, behaviours and limiting beliefs, to get you where you want to be in understanding and dealing with women, maybe using various tools to help you in the whole evolutionary process.
I don’t understand most you guys. Why get mad over a fucking book?? Instead of focusing on shit like there goes my routine why not work on yourself. Fuck most of you clowns are so insecure. Its out. Get over it. U ASS CLOWNS!!!!!
Get Real-
The point I was trying to get across was that there is no need to make the “PU Community” a secret that so many people think it should be. I’ve learned that if you’re doing something – anything – to improve your lot in life, telling people about what you’re working on is an awesome to gain additional respect and a hell of a lot of support. It’s worked for me.
This could be working out and trying to lose weight, learning a new language, going to get your MBA, overcoming a learning disability or learning to meet, attract and have great relationships with women (which is a lot like overcoming a learning disability). I think what we are doing is something to be proud of, so I don’t see a reason to be clandestine about it.
Regarding whether or not I’m back to square one because – apparently – being genuine with women and treating them like a Lady is the equivalent of being a supplicating, spineless pushover, I can’t prove to you that this happens – you’d have to see my interactions face-to-face. But, I can assure you I’ve had my heart broken and fucked up enough times to know when I’m being supplicative and have taken measures to become stronger from it.
“Do the women feel appreciated when you show them what you learned in all this?”
Actually, yes they are. Sure, there are a few who don’t have an opinion one way or the other but when any woman in my life (whether friend, colleauge or lover) mentions this, they often think it’s cool that I’ve learned how to communicate with women in an open, humorous, charming way.
Actually, when the Elle article about Mystery Method came out, the girl I was dating at the time cut it out and gave it to me, saying: “Hey, do you do this Mystery guy’s stuff? You should, I really like what he says.” Hahaha, I was nicely surprised when she said that
Again, as long as you’re open about what you’re doing and aren’t running these clandestine, amoral Ross Jeffries/SS patterns on her, there is no reason for her to NOT be appreciative. They’d never bust your balls for learning how to make her orgasm so why would they do it for becoming the Man who can make her laugh, smile and feel like a lady? They don’t.
“Did the two of them agree to an MLTR with you?”
I’m a one woman man and always will be. I don’t do multiples or any of that. I may go on dates with different girls sometimes but when I’m with a woman, I am WITH her. Fully.
Regarding ugly girls, I’ll be honest – I don’t date them. No shame in that. Would you? Don’t knock it unless you’re a chubby chaser. We all got in this game so we could have more choice with women, right?
Regarding NEG/Cocky & Funny, I’ve since given that up. While I playfully tease, I don’t do CF/Negging anymore. For my style, my personality, my results with women have gone up enormously since giving it up. You can tell me all day how that doesn’t make sense in the context of, say, Mystery Method or DYD, but the numbers or the quality of women don’t lie.
Admittedly, a direct, genuine approach to meeting women is a little difficult to see results in b/c – in many ways – it’s like being a “Nice Guy”. You’re not negging her, running routines, and you may actually compliment her (but God forbid if I buy her a drink
.
I can appreciate where you’re coming from, Get Real, really. In a lot of instances, natural, direct game can walk a line between “Attraction” and “Nice Guy”. Which doesn’t mean that I’m complimenting her left and right or kissing her ass; more than anything, it’s the anti-thesis of Routine based game. I tell lots of fun stories, talk about interesting things I do (yoga, capoeira, acting, DJ’ing, writing), interesting things she does and whatever else crops up. If teasing is appropriate at the time, I’ll do it. If there is something paritcularly intriguing about her, I’ll tell her but still let her know that she needs to “Wow” me with her optimism, humor and intellect. More than anything it takes balance.
Peace & Balance,
Dalton
GetReal, I’ve run MLTRs with girls I’ve told that I’d studied seduction, and where I actually detailed a bunch of the specific things I’d done to get them.
When you’re at that point, they don’t care. When they’re at an earlier point, they don’t seem to care either. Maybe a little more concerned about feeling a slut, and that’s all.
-Eek
This is a common misconception.
It all depends on the subtext? Do you convey being an alpha, take charge sort of a guy, or do you convey being a wimp?
There is a huge difference.
If this is happening, then the guy is doing something very WRONG.
There is a gigantic difference between the two.
Don’t forget that most of the CURRENT community doctrine is written by self admitted Ex-geeks.
It’s not written by men like Hypnotica.
Take it easy
The One
“I’m a one woman man and always will be. I don’t do multiples or any of that. I may go on dates with different girls sometimes but when I’m with a woman, I am WITH her. Fully.”
You’re a one-woman FAG.
[quote]You don’t have to be tall or rich, tho they can be an edge. If you’re not fun or cool to be around, then how do you expect to be popular? Or are you only fun and confident when your delivering someone elses lines and routines?
It sounds like you’re putting all the power in the routine or prop and ignoring the power of the delivery.[/quote]
Why would I pay a shitload of money to anyone to be told to be cool and popular to get laid? We were paying for an edge, not to be told the obvious.
[quote]This could be working out and trying to lose weight, learning a new language, going to get your MBA, overcoming a learning disability or learning to meet, attract and have great relationships with women (which is a lot like overcoming a learning disability). I think what we are doing is something to be proud of, so I don’t see a reason to be clandestine about it.[/quote]
Why would I pay a guru a shitload of money to tell me to lose weight and get an MBA when I was paying them to teach me how to get laid without having to do those things? I was paying for an edge.
[quote]Actually, when the Elle article about Mystery Method came out, the girl I was dating at the time cut it out and gave it to me, saying: “Hey, do you do this Mystery guy’s stuff? You should, I really like what he says.” Hahaha, I was nicely surprised when she said that
[/quote]
Did she give you permission for an MLTR? When she gets old, will she mind being set aside because she’s no longer pretty?(Mystery wants 9s and up)
[quote]I’m a one woman man and always will be. I don’t do multiples or any of that. I may go on dates with different girls sometimes but when I’m with a woman, I am WITH her. Fully.[/quote]
I agree that women like one-woman men, but that’s not what most of us are looking for.
[quote]Regarding NEG/Cocky & Funny, I’ve since given that up. While I playfully tease, I don’t do CF/Negging anymore. For my style, my personality, my results with women have gone up enormously since giving it up. You can tell me all day how that doesn’t make sense in the context of, say, Mystery Method or DYD, but the numbers or the quality of women don’t lie.[/quote]
Sounds like you just dissed DYD. Some guys who post here don’t seem to agree with that.
[quote]When you’re at that point, they don’t care. When they’re at an earlier point, they don’t seem to care either. Maybe a little more concerned about feeling a slut, and that’s all.[/quote]
Even if they don’t care all these new guys are going to give them more choices among men just like yourself.
[quote]It all depends on the subtext? Do you convey being an alpha, take charge sort of a guy, or do you convey being a wimp?
There is a huge difference.[/quote]
You can’t make every guy in the room an alpha.
[quote]If this is happening, then the guy is doing something very WRONG.
There is a gigantic difference between the two. Don’t forget that most of the CURRENT community doctrine is written by self admitted Ex-geeks. It’s not written by men like Hypnotica.[/quote]
Is that the guy who raises another man’s kids with his oneitis?
[quote]You don’t have to be tall or rich, tho they can be an edge. If you’re not fun or cool to be around, then how do you expect to be popular? Or are you only fun and confident when your delivering someone elses lines and routines?
It sounds like you’re putting all the power in the routine or prop and ignoring the power of the delivery.[/quote]
Why would I pay a shitload of money to anyone to be told to be cool and popular to get laid? We were paying for an edge, not to be told the obvious.
[quote]This could be working out and trying to lose weight, learning a new language, going to get your MBA, overcoming a learning disability or learning to meet, attract and have great relationships with women (which is a lot like overcoming a learning disability). I think what we are doing is something to be proud of, so I don’t see a reason to be clandestine about it.[/quote]
Why would I pay a guru a shitload of money to tell me to lose weight and get an MBA when I was paying them to teach me how to get laid without having to do those things? I was paying for an edge.
[quote]Actually, when the Elle article about Mystery Method came out, the girl I was dating at the time cut it out and gave it to me, saying: “Hey, do you do this Mystery guy’s stuff? You should, I really like what he says.” Hahaha, I was nicely surprised when she said that
[/quote]
Did she give you permission for an MLTR? When she gets old, will she mind being set aside because she’s no longer pretty?(Mystery wants 9s and up)
[quote]I’m a one woman man and always will be. I don’t do multiples or any of that. I may go on dates with different girls sometimes but when I’m with a woman, I am WITH her. Fully.[/quote]
I agree that women like one-woman men, but that’s not what most of us are looking for.
[quote]Regarding NEG/Cocky & Funny, I’ve since given that up. While I playfully tease, I don’t do CF/Negging anymore. For my style, my personality, my results with women have gone up enormously since giving it up. You can tell me all day how that doesn’t make sense in the context of, say, Mystery Method or DYD, but the numbers or the quality of women don’t lie.[/quote]
Sounds like you just dissed DYD. Some guys who post here don’t seem to agree with that.
[quote]When you’re at that point, they don’t care. When they’re at an earlier point, they don’t seem to care either. Maybe a little more concerned about feeling a slut, and that’s all.[/quote]
Even if they don’t care all these new guys are going to give them more choices among men just like yourself.
[quote]It all depends on the subtext? Do you convey being an alpha, take charge sort of a guy, or do you convey being a wimp?
There is a huge difference.[/quote]
You can’t make every guy in the room an alpha.
[quote]If this is happening, then the guy is doing something very WRONG.
There is a gigantic difference between the two. Don’t forget that most of the CURRENT community doctrine is written by self admitted Ex-geeks. It’s not written by men like Hypnotica.[/quote]
Is that the guy who raises another man’s kids with his oneitis?
Haha, I’m feelin’ the love here!!!
I think it’s obvious I’ve got different dating priorities than a lot of the dudes on here – it’s all good, it takes all kinds you know? I’ve done the typical, wanting multiples, open 20 sets in a night, collecting phone #’s…it was cool, it was a good thing to go thru and I’m in another stage of My Game. It’s all about Personal Evolution.
“Sounds like you just dissed DYD. Some guys who post here don’t seem to agree with that.”
Some guys don’t like when other people rag on DYD? Your point would be…what? This place is for exchange of different ideas – that’s kinda the point, brother.
I don’t buy into one school or method or technique universally – if looking for effectiveness is ‘dissing’, then whatever. But actually, I give TONS OF credit David D/Double Your Dating – he laid the groundwork so lucidly, cutting out the fat and gave me an awesome place to move in whatever direction I saw fit: RSD, Badboy, MM or – my choice – Juggler. David D. has opened my eyes to so many new realms, dating-related or not. DYD is the shit and I would never diss it.
Best,
Dalton
yet another article
http://www.suntimes.com/output/lifestyles/cst-ftr-pickup14.html
Style deserves nothing but praise for this book. I read the entire book in one day after it arrived from Amazon.com. It has lots of humor, lots of insight, lots of personal reflection, some drama, and even some action. I was sad that the book did not have another 2 or 3 hundred pages. Way to go Neil.
Okay,
I know I’ve been posting sceptical posts about u ‘PUA’S’ but can you guyz please think for just a split second.
I’ve seen posts saying Styles is a ‘scumbag’ but wait a second……arent’ you the same?
Do you not avidly pursue women? Yet you chastise another man for his methods. Let me say this. Firstly I give no man praise if he’s dedicated his life to changing himself for any reason (women included) because he is not a man if he does but Styles said 1 thing I will always respect. When speaking on Tyler Durden (or however his name was spelt I quite dont care or care to remember) he sed that that man did not understand that you’re not just PUA’s your people.
If you’re really a community then fuckin be there for each other what the fuck is this nonsense about different meathods? It’s like getting money, if it’s from caine or stocks it doesn’t matter aslong as you have it.
Get me?
1.4
“When will we end this domination of our world by these parasites?”
Whoa. Somebody’s got some deep-seated anger. That’s too bad.
[blockquote]Haven’t you ever wondered why so many television producers, television stars, movie stars, and so forth are Jews?
When will we end this domination of our world by these parasites?
Here is a critique of one of Neil’s attempts at turning garbage into gold:
[/blockquote]
Keep on listening to Jeff Rense you mindless drone.
-Alex Jones
“When will we end this domination of our world by these parasites?”
what a gimp! jewish people do well cos they stick together.
don t be a hater.
Can’t get over what an idiot Ross Jeffries is for sniffing Carmen Electra’s ass and embarassing Style at such a cool party in the book. On what planet would that ever be considered Speed Seducing someone.
I have to wonder if Style and Ross are on speaking terms after the release of this book. Ross looks like a total cult leader jackass.
Dude, I know. Who goes around sniffing chick’s asses anyways?! I mean, yeah, Carmen’s a real piece of work, a smokin’ chick but you know – in the words of Mr. Schock G of Digital Underground (otherwise known as the man behind the “Humpty Dance”):
Black, White, Candy Striped…everyone’s butt stinks
I admit, I admire a few of RJ’s ideas but he’s kind of a creepy dude.
[quote]Dude, I know. Who goes around sniffing chick’s asses anyways?![/quote]
He misinterpreted Style when he was talking about “chick crack.”
“He misinterpreted Style when he was talking about ‘chick crack.’”
LOL! I love it.
Get Real, you and I have our hugely differing opinions on relationships, interacting with women, pick-up and lifestyle…but that is some funny ass shit.
HAHAHAHA!!!
Best,
Dalton
Distinguished and get real HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!
Hey Style the book was cool.It enabled the masses to somewhat comprehend seduction.I think you were counting on the mystery of seduction to promote your book.So you succeeded in seducing the masses into buying your book.Nice move!!!…Next time remember, women are attracted by mystery.Men expect facts….
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