And now, Introducing… TYLER DURDEN!
May 7, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Hey guys,
Well, the pictures seemed to go over well. I know that one of the most common emails I got from guys regarding the site were “Do you have any pictures of these guys I can see?” Well, ask and ye shall recieve, gentlemen. I present to you the ringleader of the Real Social Dynamics team, Tyler Durden!
Originally, Tyler did not want his picture out on the internet, even though he’s going to be in an upcoming issue of Rolling Stone Magazine. But he was gracious enough to give me permission to post up not only a pic of him from the seminar, but personal pictures from his own collection on the site!
One note I’d like to make is that Sickboy asked that his face not be shown, so I have blurred him out. He lives a private life and does not want his face out there, so please respect his privacy.
Below are some of Tyler’s personal album pictures.
Okay, so now that you’ve seen all the RSD guys, let’s have a poll! Who do you think is the best looking?
1. Tyler Durden
2. Papa
3. Twentysix
4. The One
5. Dreamweaver
6. PlayboyLA
7. Xaneus
What the hell! If you want, you can even rate them all in terms of looks! Let the rating begin!
KeithMub on 
medicinskaya tehnika_bmpi on 
Larrycoema on 
RonniePuh on 
In that first picture, with the expression on his face, TD looks like Ed Norton in Fight Club… And is that the Jlaix hair he was talking about? I thought it’d be taller.
Tyler Durden 7.5
Papa 7.5
Twentysix 7
The One 8.5
Dreamweaver 7.5
PlayboyLA 8
Xaneus 8
Pretty good looking all of them
Cool, this is like Hot or Not for the seduction community!
I don’t think those pics do Papa justice. He looks much different in this video:
http://www.royalcommandworkshop.com/video.html
Tyler Durden – 7.6
Papa – 7.5
Twentysix – 7.5
The One – 8.5
Dreamweaver – 7.6
PlayboyLA – 8
Xaneus – 8
Tari – 9
Hey guys.. Great, more ratings, just want I need to read..
OK, hair breakdown:
DYD pic is at full tallness. Same with the pic with me and the two chicks. The one where I have the metal thing on the shirt and the Dr. Evil finger thing in my mouth was when I was growing it out, so it was longer on the sides so wasn’t as cool. The pic with the Pimp shirt and the other group pic I have the shorter hair.
So to me, just like I said in the post, I don’t notice that much difference, nor do I think the longer hair is even all that noticable at all. But for some weird reason, I get opened 5-20 times a night on it and get props on it. Weird. I do think I look cooler though in say the DYD group pic compared to the Seattle workshop group pic that was taken in late December.
Anyway, props to Jlaix for suggesting it because it seems to be a pretty good addition.
btw, I think that myself and my friends are VERY goodlooking guys. Every one of us have symetrical faces and are healthy. Our genes made it this far, and they aren’t about to stop..
As far as I can tell, certain types of looks are just socially conditioned to be popular depending on the media of the times. A male model is no better looking than I am in terms of his health of vigour or whatever. He just has the contingency of being born with a certain jaw line or skin tone or whatever. This means nothing, as other forms of social proof and subcommunication outweigh it.
btw, it was purely a coincidence that I posted about looks right before the TC article. Someone posted on ASF “Oh cool, you’re bringing this up around the TC article” and I was like “Shit, I forgot about that.” I wonder if it was a Freudian thing or something, I don’t know. I’d been planning to post something about that for a long time, and its a funny coincidence that it came up right now.
-TD
1. Tyler Durden – 6
2. Papa – 7
3. Twentysix – 9
4. The One – 9
5. Dreamweaver -8
6. PlayboyLA – 10
7. Xaneus – 4
The best looking guys , out of the pix, is 2-6. And Tari looks like a flamming brownie to me, no wonder he gets the girls ^_^. But i would rank mystery and erocker as prob the best lookin PUA’s around currently.
Does the 1 have a glass eye or something?
Here’s how I eval these 3 on the very top pic:
The One – 7
TD – 6.5 (sorry, TD, I’m your big fan tho)
26 – 8.5 (but 5-6 on other pics)
Really, none of these guys have classical good looks. Mostly in the 6 to 8 range. What makes the difference is the clothing and the body language. Further proof that how you present yourself is CRITICAL.
Just for shits and giggles:
1. Tyler Durden
Better looking than most male redheads, which isn’t really saying much. However, he’s definitely got that aura and vibe that makes him stand out in every group picture. That jlaix “tall hair” looks really good on him.
2. Papa
Looks like a really cool guy to hang with. Always smiling. He’s probably the best looking IMO.
3. Twentysix
Haha. You gotta love the TWO-dash-SIX. He looks like the dude in college who would eat crushed glass or brand his arm with a coat hangar on a dare. Has his own brand of peacocking and it seems to be totally congruent with who he his, based on his posts. As for looks…eh…allright i guess.
4. The One
Clearly has put in lots of hours in the gym but the man-boobs are disturbing. Not good looking at all but has that badass vibe about him that chicks are drawn to. Confidence and presentation and more than a little skill make him a top PUA.
5. Dreamweaver
Nothing remarkable about him at all. Better than average looks. Frat boy with game.
6. PlayboyLA
Better than average. Looks like David f’n Copperfield to me. Make of that what you will. Claudia Schiffer had it goin’ on back in the day.
7. Xaneus
Nature Boy! If this dude is pulling chicks to his tent on a regular basis I’ve got to give him props. Another average looking guy who knows how to dress stylishly and has extremely confident BL.
Sickboy might need to go on Extreme Makeovers though. His facial features seem to blur into one another. Poor guy…it’s a shame about that Chemistry lab explosion!
The tall hair on TD definitely kicks up the coolness a couple notches. Makes him look kind of like Scott Weiland of STP.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/7587/style.html
PlayboyLA is actually very goodlooking, he has what you call the Classical Scandinavian Upperclass look (imo). Gelled back long curleyish hair with very strong jaw and high and backleaned forehead.
TheOne I can’t understand why is getting rated high, too much muscles, a 6 overall maybe.
Twentysix has that “sexy” look going on, badboy/skaterish really cool.
Tyler and Papa looks like the greatest guys as inn their looks tell you they are fun and caring and good guys, VERY charismatic people.
Oh the darkhaired girl in the green top looked really sexy!!! The blonde didn’t do anything for me really but the darkhaired oh so sweet!
Now i know why the one is a top gun wingman ..looks like a bodyguard !! lol
Anyways, how about some pics of the 2 cats …SWINGGCAT and MR. THUNDERCAT himself ??
TD,
What is up with you, bro? For example, I ‘ve often heard you complaining about loosing your hair. You seen to have an extremely healthy head of hair dude. Not a big deal. Don’t stress.
Tons of times I’ve heard you describe yourself as nothing better than “average looking”. Now you’re totally changing your tune and saying you are “VERY” good looking. WTF? Apparently, the late nights and the blow are starting to wear on you. You’re becoming inconsistent. OK… that was kinda mean… (hug!).
Not to mention generally unpleasant. I’ve been reading your stuff and listening to recordings of you and, like all the other cats in the community, became kinda fond of you. You’re obviously sharp as a whip and seem really likable. I went out to the summit wanting to love you like a little brother… I was shocked. You were so aloof and unfriendly. You had this ridiculous wall arrogance around you. By the third day, I was ready to deck your scrawny ass.
Bro, cmon – you’re just a kid who has figured out how to nail tons of party girls FCS. Have you won a NPP for somehow contributing to the good of humanity or improving the planet in in some way? Get over yourself dude… Yeah, you’ve given tons of guys great insight and motivation into the pursuit of sexual freedom. You’ve SUBSTANTIALLY helped further the s&a of seduction. And we all love ya for it dude; no BS. But you can at least MAKE AN EFFORT to be pleasant to your fans and potential customers for 1 fucking weekend. You can take the newbies and AFCs out and show em the ropes for three days. I mean, christ, dude. You’re getting laid or sucked of ever night the other 362 doty. You’re THAT selfish that you can’t look after your deciples for 2 or 3 nights if you’re not getting paid? I saaw guys flocking around you like puppies hoping to at least SEE you in action. You would just turn your nose up to them with a disparaging glance.
Please don’t be that asshole celeb that refuses to sign autographs and admonishes people “infringing on THEIR time”. You are payed to teach. It is your job, man. Like ANY other job on the planet, it has it’s good points, and it has it’s bad points. If students are in the house that look to you for guidance, it’s your responsibility to extend SOME kind of compassion to them; even if they are drooling all over themselves and smell of blue cheese.
It may be painful, but they are people who have come to you with as much dignity as they could scrape up because they didn’t know where Else to turn. If you are open to or even believe in your own spirituality and the wisdom of the cosmos – you are where you are for a reason. Don’t abuse it. Trust me, it’s a BITCH when karma comes back to bight you down the road.
P
Tyler Durden: 7
Papa: 6
Twentysix: 8
The One: 9
Dreamweaver: 8
PlayboyLA: 5
Xaneus: 7.5
I’m the ugliest of the group, which is why I chose not to attend. I must never permit my horrific visage to become public.
Piero, the looks thing – I’m making the distinction between social views of how we’re perceived without working to stand out, and what I actually think in terms of all of us being perfectly healthy genetically viable guys. It’s a reframe. As for the hair thing, I use product to fix it. Matrix Mate Clay, thickens it up perfect. I do have substantial thinning, but its not noticable this way.
btw, I’m not sure what you’re talking about or if you were really at the Summit or if I’m responding to a joke post. PlayboyLA and I was the only PUAs at the Summit who took out guys every night. We did it every night and went out with a different group of guys each night (some guys were annoyed that they didn’t get to go all three days). Every other PUA other than Formhandle stayed in. You’re right though, I was tired and sick that weekend, and going through a breakup with the only girl I’ve been into for a while. One aspect of doing the RSD job that has been difficult at various times is that I’m required to be extremely friendly to people that I’ve never met every single day, regardless of how exhausted I am or any other factors. Normally I enjoy it, but sometimes the fact that I *have* to be this way makes it hard because it can feel and probably seem unnatural. I’m not used to it. One wrong move, and poof, I have something like this post showing up. This will become even more obvious with the growth of RSD. I also know how guys feel, because you read some guys’ stuff for a while and form a bond, and if you meet up and the guy barely acknowledges you that sucks. And you never know what will set a guy off. I remember a guy who asked me a question, and I said I’d get back to it after I was done explaining something. I forgot, and he felt let down. Another guy was initially upset at me because he felt that I’d used negative binder commands in sentences like ‘You can feel scared by this environment but don’t worry’ and things like that that were just the way that I talk (I use none of this stuff as I’m not an NLP’er, but he honestly felt this way and it was a legitimate concern). Another was let down because he asked to talk to me in private, and I was swarmed with guys and didn’t get to him. And then you have the guys who ask if they can come “observe” workshop for free without participating, and I have to say “no” because it would piss off the students and rightly so in my opinion. I’m also the figurehead of the business, even though my colleagues are just as sharp and important as I am. They work as hard as I do, but whatever I do forms the perception of the entire group, and will determine their success as much as my own. I have to keep myself and all my friends in the field 7 nights a week, to ensure that our skillsets are at tournament level at all times. I have to study teaching techniques and get constant feedback on how I’m coming across and how much guys are learning, to keep the program as the Gold standard. Amazing programs that were run 97% tight and 3% slack will yield testimonials that have 50/50 props and constructive criticism, because the guys posting them want to appear “objective” and that is the trend nowadays (luckily our business is no longer run via the scene so it doesn’t matter). But whatever, its all constructive. Just that much more motivation to make it 100% tight. I have to triple and quadrouple check venues and backup venues, because I could bring out a group of students, and the night could be dead. I have to keep myself as healthy as possible despite my lifestyle if staying up late and having tons of foreign germs going into my body via all the girls, because if I’m sick then I can’t run the program. It’s not a seminar. Seminars are so easy. The outcome is predictable. In field workshops are a bungee jump each and every single time. If I slack on any of this stuff for even a minute, people will sniff it out RSD is done. The list goes on and on. I’m cool to handle it though. I’m drawn to it for a reason obviously. There’s a book about this called “Flow”. You set up challenges that match your skill. Anything less and you become apathetic. On the good side, because I’m consistent most of the time, the general view is good and people will always pipe in on my behalf to say that anything negative was a brief out of character moment. Piero, if I blew you off, it was out of character and I’m legitimately pissed with myself for not being more on the ball. Especially if its to the point that you’re thinking about hitting people or whatever (even if you said it as a joke, you’d still choose those words to describe it).
-TD
Tyler
Nice, NICE stuff man. I’m sitting here in my neat, expensive and socially acceptable jeans and shirt and I’m thinking ‘I need that fucking Pimp the Clown tshirt’. Definitely going shopping soon.
“One wrong move, and poof, I have something like this post showing up. This will become even more obvious with the growth of RSD.”
Actually, how big is RSD going to grow? I’m kinda concerned, and I’m thinking you should rip the general public off and keep the best material to yourself. I should’ve never heard about stuff like wheelchair opener, exactly because it kicks so much ass. I think I’m hoping this will never reach the ‘outside world’. Any thoughts?
Fuck, this is hitting Rolling Stone magazine soon…
Also, can I shoot you a quick question over email? I’m asking because you probably get lots of these…
UP THE IRONS
count S
26 is the best looking.
But that is just temporary becouse at the next mastery seminar I’ll be there
Hey TD or anyone else,
If anyone has that big group pic of seattle workshop guys, the big one with like 25 of us, someone email it over.
~JustLou.
luiso@u.washington.edu
In that first picture, with the expression on his face, TD looks like Ed Norton in Fight Club… ~ Mimicker
My thoughts EXACTLY. Moreso like Edward Norton when he has flashbacks and sees himself as TD, cuz he’s got confidence and assurance of himself. Anywho, a cool looking guy. (I’m not into that whole “ranking guys” thing, you’re either ugly, average, cool or a model) If you think of what he’s done for the community his rating goes up, and I that’s what it’s like when you show personality in the field.
TD, I think I`m in love with you, you are SO hot!
Honestly, I think all of you are goodlooking. I don`t care to rate any of you as that would feel a little weird, but in my opinion TD is very good looking. But I know it`s because you take care of yourself and is aware of how you look, compared to all the guys who are whining about how ugly they are and don`t do shit about it. Anyway, if you have cool clothes and the attitude of a loser, no one sees your clothes anyway. If you act like you`re the shit and have “average” clothes you still are the fucking shit!:-) Btw to all the skeptics, good looks alone is not key in having good consistent game, but it sure helps. So instead of whining about guys looking so good, do the best out of what you have.
Now I`m gonna jerk off to the RSD group picture!
Cool clothes really help alot…Ive always had an attitude that Im the fuckin Money shit and wore above avg cloths now I wear exceptional clothes and its much better
Matrix
For anyone who is interested, I believe the full name of the product that Tyler uses in his hair is Matrix DirtyTrix Messy Matte(as opposed to mate)Clay.
And Tyler, you’ll always be a SHB10++ to me.
This is kinda silly.. don’t matter what you guys look like; we all love ya’ll anyway.
your pal,
PhoenixR
Ok, since TD STOLE the hair from ME, the ORIGINATOR, who developed it in SF’99… I must clarify the correct product to use.
Do not use this clay or wax or whatever. It will hold it, but not HIGH for LONG PERIODS of time. And what you are looking for with the jlaix hair is HEIGHT and LONGEVITY. My hair is higher than dude’s and will stay that way ALL NIGHT. I use a super lightweight Shaper aerosol spray to get the height, then once it is up, shellack the fuck out of it with Paul Mitchell Freeze and Shine spray to keep it there and get it all shiny. Blow dryer is definitely required, preferably one with a “cold shot” option to flash freeze the shit in place. There you go.
-jlaix
Hey TD, just out of curiousty, in the picture of you with the 2 chicks, does the shirt u have one underneath the outer one have 3 zippers on it by your shoulder?
I’ve tried using wax/clay to keep my hair spiked straight up, but it falls out of place pretty quickly. The best combination I’ve found is to use canned hairspray all over while the hair is pretty dry, and use a slight amount of gel to get the fringe perfect.
Used to use gel all over, but now the top is too long and it droops. 3 months to go before I have the ULTIMATE height.
One last comment on the hair thing. There’s a product made especially for this kind of thing its called Ice Spiker. Available at Trade Secret. You can also get it in different colors if you really want to look like a freak.
coolwater, you told me you got your method of hairstyling from a movie…..Something About Mary, right?
well looks like you must be lying about that hairspray and gel. Its cool man. Semen in your hair isn’t THAT gross.
After looking at those pics….i have to say those Chicks ARE NOT 10′S!….i thought you were strightly pulling 10′s and 9′s…..those chicks in the pic are clearly not 10′s….if this is what you keep bragging about in your post…then maybe you need glasses….at most those chicks could be 8′s….maybe 8.5′s on a good day.
BTW those group pics are acceptable…again i think TD suffers from some sort of unhealthy mental disorder…all these posts about having gained weight, looking unhealthy, etc etc….i think your using a marketing ploy to entrap the young and niave…saying that your looks and skill level are on different sides of the spectrum….i haven’t met you..but i’ve heard from many who have, you seem to have a wild imagination and tend to over exagerate….more proof was seen with these ‘so-called 10′s’ you claim to be pullin night in night out.
Then you spoke about building muscle mass at the Gym…lol…you look v.skinny in those pics…then you speak of being ugly/dorky looking…we all know that’s not the case now……in closing….A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE!….DON’T LET YOUR EGO CONSUME YOU.
Yeah those girls aren’t 10′s!! They’re like 4′s! OMG I can’t believe you took a picture with them kissing you, I definately wouldn’t take any pictures with 4′s. I only let 10′s take pictures with me.
Otherwise I look might look bad in front of Final D.!
P.S.
I can tell the one on the left is a 4 even though I don’t know what her body looks like and I can only see a quarter of her face.
P.P.S
You’re hot TD! But you’re CRAAAAAZY!
Yeah those girls aren’t 10′s!! They’re like 4′s! OMG I can’t believe you took a picture with them kissing you, I definately wouldn’t take any pictures with 4′s. I only let 10′s take pictures with me.
Otherwise I look might look bad in front of Final D.!
P.S.
I can tell the one on the left is a 4 even though I don’t know what her body looks like and I can only see a quarter of her face.
P.P.S
You’re hot TD! But you’re CRAAAAAZY!
is it me or does TD look like Seth Green?
maybe the grills in that pic thought he was so thats why they are all smug w/ him.
lol. j/k
Hmmmmm…. I like the long hair! On my way to getting the ‘shocked’ look.
As for TD, the man put up one picture with 7-8s and someone already complains? It comes with popularity ^_^
Hmmmmm…. I like the long hair! On my way to getting the ‘shocked’ look.
As for TD, the man put up one picture with 7-8s and someone already complains? It comes with popularity ^_^
Guys. TD is not good looking. I’m less physically attractive for sure – but that doesn’t say much (I’m low end of the physical curve). If we took Joe average 22-24 year old and compared him to TD in the same gear, TD wouldn’t stand out one bit. The guy has some height (from what I can tell) and style like crazy (nice clothes, good hair) going for him, but besides that, physically, the guy’s pretty damn average.
Don’t think so? Just look at his facial features. Weak cheekbones, prominent forehead, thinning hair (though not yet visible, it will be I’m sure soon enough). He’s clearly not ripped either. If I saw him on the street wearing sweatpants and an old t-shirt, I wouldn’t look twice, and neither would any of you. He is without a doubt no fucking calvin klein model. Take away the clothes and his skills and he’d be the average bum sitting at the end of the bar wishing a girl would approach him.
TD – take this as a compliment. Having seen your picture, I think it’s safe to say you are getting layed from skills, not looks, and that means a lot more no matter how you look at it.
I actually almost look forward to you going completely bald (almost – I’m not a complete sadist) just because I’m willing to bet that if anyone has tight enough game to push past that sort of thing and prove to all the physically disadvantaged that skills can overcome it, it would be a guy like you.
Tyler- I just happened to come across this site after listening to one of the interview series by David DeAngelo when he interviewed you. Just want to say your work is fuc*ing brilliant. I’m only 20 in college, and have the same story as you. Hopefully by the time I’m 23 ill have this part of my life handles even a fraction the extent of you. So I can’t afford the whole RSD thing yet, but if Iam not a pimp when I do ge tthe money, then I will def do your live “in the field” thing.
Peace
Cole
I think it’s a shame for such an asshole to wear such a name : )
This guy is a counter-nihilist and has the belief trails printed on his face.
Nothing to do with Tyler Durden, sorry…
What is eveyone dissing Tyler for? I think that he is the best looking of all of them. Well, as much i can tell from these pics. Except i think that the one of him with the two girls looks the worst–definately time to get in the gym. Personally i am better looking than all of them
(for real) –However they can all pull more ass then me, until I go to a workshop, then i’ll be setting up my own RSD francise 
What is eveyone dissing Tyler for? I think that he is the best looking of all of them. Well, as much i can tell from these pics. Except i think that the one of him with the two girls looks the worst–definately time to get in the gym. Personally i am better looking than all of them
(for real) –However they can all pull more ass then me, until I go to a workshop, then i’ll be setting up my own RSD francise 
I think those girls look a lot, lot, lot lot lot lot better in real life, than they do on the photos. Btw, how come you are able to judge the one on the left? AWFULL DRESS, ARGH!!
What is this shit?
Well, If tyler still looked like this he would be considered good looking. to bad he is 40 pounds heavier, needs an eye lift now and has a fro mullet down to his shoulders.
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