Neo-Rio on Japanese Girls
March 5, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
If you either live in Japan, or just dig Japanese girls, Neo-Rio has a rather interesting response on what it’s like to live and sarge in Japan.
Neo-Rio writes:
For me, LJBF (Let’s Just Be Friends) is something I can RARELY ever get in Japan. It took me a while to figure out that J-chicks wanted me to come on to them early in the piece (but only in the way they wanted) otherwise they would just next me. This kinda pushed me into a difficult spot… either I fuck them and then get dumped again… or I get nothing.The thing that will get you a relationship here in Japan is if you fuck some random chick who hasn’t got laid enough (and is a bit desperate), and then give her the relationship she demands of you as your taking her panties off…. at least that’s how it panned out for me.
Desperate chicks with stalker qualities make good girlfriends…. it’s just that getting rid of them can be fucking hard on you. Training them even harder…. but if you undo their kinks, they can turn out to be good LTRs (Long Term Relationships).
They just require a fair bit of work.
***Boldface definitions added by me.
Neo-Rio continues…
Jchicks LOVE to feel as if they have an effect on the men they encounter…. it their payoff. They don’t understand that I screen for personality though… they simply assume that their looks will do the work. In any case, they want to feel as if they can do some seducing too.
Usually here, I’m only LJBFing chicks who get my back up by resisting advances.
(snip)
Being direct has gotten me laid, but only on a particular type of chick. Not all chicks here go for that (even though it excites them). LJBF and scoring from behind really has only worked for me on chicks who resist too much. You drop their status to LJBF and let them work their way back up. That way, they get to feel that they are doing the seducing on you… which makes them feel more comfortable. LJBF is only half the story though.
In any case, most of my lays have still come from being direct about sex at some point. (Well, shit, if I’m going to stick my dick in her… it’s going to be obvious to all concerned!)
And he finishes the post off with this…
Well, most of these chicks who resist are typically helpless romantics… and I am anything BUT!
What works is for them to feel that they are seducing you… and you being hard to get (in LJBF) the best way to seduce them is to make them feel like they are doing the seducing, is to slowly (over a period of time) make gradual moves on her, and if she ever stops you at some point, you can turn around and say “OH, for some reason I just felt like touching you here because it made me feel comfortable… but I don’t know why!”
In essence, this is actually direct… BUT you are not taking responsibility and saying “*I* want to fuck you”. Instead, you are blaming *something* for your acting the way you are… but you don’t know what it is that makes you feel the way you do around the woman.
Since the woman is self-referential, she will assume that SHE IS SEDUCTIVE…. and SHE IS THE CAUSE of your behaiour which gives her some excitement and satisfaction. It also challenges her to push for more from you in the LJBF frame you imposed on her.
This is also the goal of SS… to make the woman think that it was all HER IDEA.
Also, when chicks resist you here, by not giving out numbers, going with you, negging you, or generally being a pain, you can say “Stop hitting on me” or in Japanese “Gyaku-nanpa o yamete!”… followed by “Let’s just be friends” or ” Tada otomodachi ni naritai yo!” and they will STOP DEAD. Then you can ask again and get what you want. This works because women here DO actually try to pimp guys by playing hard to get (which I just can’t fucking stand!).
My routine with Japanese chicks goes a little like this:-
* Neutral opener
* Some basic EV to get her talking
* Once she’s talking, screen her
* Once she’s talked for long enough, start showing interest, but do not take responsibility for it. (as in the example above). I do this by working on body language first… gazing, eye contact, prolonged holding of hands. etc. Say for example “You know, for some reason, you seem kind of interesting. I don’t normally do this, but do you have a phone number? I’d like to see you again.”
* If she resists or makes some bullshit up to slow you down at this point, then I’ll drag out “Let’s Just be Friends” If she keeps being a pain, then it’s “Stop hitting on me!”
* If she goes along with it, then I will try to isolate her and ramp her buying temp.
Ah, good stuff from Neo-Rio, as always. You can read the whole, unedited post here.
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