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Mystery Offers Advice

February 4, 2004 by  
Filed under Tips & Tricks

**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/3/04

Mystery posted a semi-article on mASF concerning the logistics of sarging with a crew. I found the article to be extremely good, with lots of great advice. Usually when I go out, it will be with 1 or 2 other guys, and when we sarge, we split up, sometimes entering sets as wings when needed. I’m not sure how other people roll, but it seems like they could be doing it wrong, so I’m reposting Mystery’s article here for everyone’s benefit.

What is a CREW?

A CREW is a group of PUAs (some of them advanced, others newbies) who roll together for the purpose of sarging. Crews have generally consisted of anywhere from 3 to 6 people … even More! Not good.

Unless your crew is better than you in the game, consider not rolling in such numbers as this is an AFC behavior. You should not roll with any more than 2 other men. Rolling in large numbers is fine so long as all other people in your crew are female.

I have, in the past, conducted or participated in huge in-field workshops as many as 17 students large (TD and Papa’s seminars – great MM spin-off stuff – you GOTTA see Papa’s AMOG tactics LIVE. You’ll shit yourself laughing! Great stuff). Thing is, this behavior completely taints the field. Even my last workshop, which had 7 students, was TOO large. I have resolved to limit my workshops to only 4 students (plus one wing) so that we can split up and be less conspicuous when we go into clubs. With only 2 sets of 3 guys (separated by 5 minutes) we solve SO MANY PROBLEMS and you learn so much more. Less herding people like cattle (and women KNOWING something is up) and more personal attention is the objective.

Rolling in huge cockfarms conveys to women that you ”hunt in packs”. That means YOU are chasing women, and THEY are NOT chasing YOU. if women feel YOU are doing the chasing, then you are NOT being chased by women and thereby NOT triggered a woman’s ”sexual pre-selection switch”.

Any more than being in groups of 3 guys and you come off AFC. Its one thing to get together as an all male group to talk about the game there was a playlist meeting conducted at my place yesterday – papa brought it all together and they
brought in a very bright speaker from the UK (sorry I only know his real name and forget his online presence name right now) but its wholly another to continue to take the cockfest outside to sarge.

So here is how I strongly feel we should ‘roll’:

Have ONE wing. and maybe a newbie to give back some. TOPS. Then, en devour to roll with women (allowing the success of previous nights to assist in building social proof in future nights) only. Going out alone is FINE! Going out with a wing is FINE. going out with a woman is BETTER but 2 women is MUCH BETTER. going out with 2 guys is SORTA OK … but you need to be with females soon after entering a public gathering. If you are a newbie, dont go out in large numbers … you are doing yourself a disservice because the quantity of men you roll with conveys that you are ”scoping for chicks” – that makes it a LOT harder to get a woman’s interest – and a lot harder to learn anything (no personal attention). Also, it is often a case of the blind leading the blind (as was happening at one point in the montreal lair – Im sure they have solved the problem since).

A LAIR should NOT sarge together. They should at most break up into groups of 3 people (although 2 is BEST – and again, the blind should NOT be leading the blind so make sure at least ONE has some TD style MAD SKILLZ!) If you are a NEWBIE, join a LAIR! learn all you can and then sarge in SMALL GROUPS. 2 PUAs may allow you to tag along as the 3rd guy but you cant crowd them and make it appear they are a 3 set all the time. You will learn a LOT more rolling into clubs in SMALL groups with at least ONE GREAT PUA than in large groups that dont know what they are doing.

The main rule is: KEEP IT SMALL, unless you have a LOT of women. Also, make it a rule to bring a pivot, even if she is NOT worthy of your ‘attention’.

So … from now on, a CREW is 3 guys … not 5 … or more. My future workshop (which will include both DAY and EVENING sarging – 12 hours per day over 3 days) will consist of 2 separate CREWS … of course students will switch from one crew to the other from time to time.

Never stand there in a group larger than 3 guys. If you find yourself allowing that to happen just tell the boys ”we’re cockfarming” and split up (especially in a workshop or newbie training scenario).

Keep it UP!
Mystery

There you go. Words of wisdom from one of the best in the game. I’d link you to the actual thread, but mASF seems to be down right now. I’ll update this post when it gets fixed.

Thundercat

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