Dr. Phil Bitch Slaps Ross Jeffries – Have Video Proof
April 22, 2008 by Thundercat
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Ha ha ha – he he he – hoo hoo hoo…
Ah, where to begin…
First of all – why the hell would any of these guys go on Dr. Phil in the first place? Do you know any GUYS who watch Dr. Phil? (Well, STRAIGHT guys?) I certainly don’t. Dr. Phil’s audience is WOMEN. So why bother wasting time pitching your seduction business to a bunch of chicks if you aren’t teaching them how to get men? Snarf.
Okay, all that aside though – I thought the Mystery Method guys came off very well in this show. They were cool, calm, collected and walked that fine line between being "politically correct" and honest about what they teach. Fact is, Mystery Method DOES work on women. It is effective. That’s why it’s taken off the way it has.
Now, whatever you feel about Savoy and the current state of Mystery Method, post-Mystery, is immaterial to this show. Sure, I would like it if Mystery was still in charge of the Mystery Method name, but that doesn’t mean these guys aren’t offering value to other men by teaching what they are. (Plus, there’s a lot of behind the scenes stuff about the meltdown over at Mystery Method I won’t be sharing here, since I’ve been sworn to secrecy not to reveal it.)
So now that we’ve got Mystery Method out of the way, let’s get to the real mean and potatoes of this.
Ross "MINE’99" Jeffries.
And boy oh boy, was MINE’99 channeling all his evil, selfish, hypocritical energies in this episode! Wow. I knew MINE’99 was delusional, but the extent of his warped reality has only gotten worse with age. Maybe his horrible friz-fro is somehow affecting his brain in the same way an alien parasite would? Who knows.
Anyway, back to the show…
First off MINE’99 proudly proclaims that he is the "father" of the
seduction community. Though he did start the online newsgroups, I want
to officially amend this title to the "mentally-off creepy uncle who
likes to molest you when he gets drunk" of the seduction community,
since that is probably a more accurate statement of his real role in
it’s birth and development.
He says he wants to give men a way to get women without
participating in the four "B"s – Bullying, Begging, Buying, and Booze.
Which doesn’t make any sense since it’s obvious MINE’99 would never get
any female attention without partaking in all of those things he just
mentioned. But regardless, he left out the fifth "B" which is
BULLSHIT. Or maybe not, since Speed Seduction is exactly that.
Moving on…
Then he starts talking about the "Dark Side" of seduction. He goes on to say:
There
are people in this community who are teaching methods and tactics that
I think women should definitely be aware of. There are people who are
teaching some very sick and twisted stuff. And I do sort-of feel like
Dr. Frankenstein, I’ve given birth to a monster. There’s 10,000
bastard children of mine running around and I sort-of feel like its a
responsibility of mine to clean it up. I would like to put them out of
business if I could. Had I not started this, they wouldn’t have been
around.
Honestly, I’m surprised he didn’t finish with "IN 1999!!!!!!" *dum dum duuuuuum!*
Yes, MINE’99′s ego has not diminished along with his looks, age, and
penis size. He has become even MORE egomaniacal as he’s become more
and more irrelevant.
MINE’99 was the FATHER of teaching sick and twisted ways to seduce
women! His entire BUSINESS is based on it! And he acts like he’s the
one who spawned all the lame-ass copy cats.
News Flash: No one is ripping off Speed Seduction because it
SUCKS. If anyone can claim to have a billion bastard kids running
around perverting his teachings for their own gain, it’s MYSTERY since
almost every workshop business in existence is teaching what is
essentially his stuff!
I love how MINE’99 is acting like a crusader wanting to "put people
out of business if he could." Didn’t he try and destroy David DeAngelo
for years? Didn’t he launch a crusade targeting Mystery which ended in
death threats? Has he not tried to shut this very blog down numerous
times by sending me threating BS legal letters?
This is a guy who is SO insecure, he even brings his lawyer with him
to Neil Strauss’s book signings in case anyone bad-mouths him. Ross
still yearns for the good old days when he was the only game in town.
And honestly, if it wasn’t for Neil swooping in and making him part of
his Stylelife business, he’d probably have gone under a while ago
himself.
The fact is: Ross doesn’t GIVE A SHIT about helping other guys or
saving the seduction community from the "rip off artists." He just
hates the competition which has all but sunk his business and forcing
him to go on shows like Dr. Phil to drum up business. He only cares
about his EGO, which is what ultimately drives the man.
Notice how MINE’99 dodges the question when Dr. Phil asks him "How
successful have you been at this from a business standpoint?" Fact is,
last time he was successful was a DECADE ago. His business is all but
treading water at the moment because not only does his stuff suck, but
his former business partner is running a competing business selling the
SAME FREAKIN’ CRAPPY PRODUCTS. But MINE’99 turns it around using his
ninja MindLines skills and says "I’ve certainly been VERY influential."
Yeah, right.
Influential in the respect that you have taught men around the world what NOT to do if they want to get a chick. Obviously.
Next is where the interview gets REALLY good.
So Dr. Phil asks "Have you been on the sleazy side of this, and now
you don’t like the direction its taken?" To which MINE’99 completely
lies through his freakin’ crooked teeth.
"What
disturbs me is that the other schools that have cropped up rely a lot
on invalidation, on making women doubt their attractiveness, on
techniques that make women uncertain of whether they are being
complimented or insulted. They’re digging into people’s LOWEST
emotions – their fears, their insecurities, and I don’t think that’s a
valid way to attract someone AT ALL."
Ah… so
sayeth the man who who created the BLOWJOB PATTERN. This is a guy who
would not only teach people how to anchor bad, evil, feelings of loss
and abandonment to doors to keep women from breaking up with you – but
he would REVEL in it. This is a guy who would share with people how to
hypnotically regress women back to childhood and mess with their sexual
development and identity in order to get laid. This is a guy who
actually ENCOURAGED men to walk up to women and say "My name is Manny
The Martian. What is your favorite flavored bowling ball?"
The whole concept behind Speed Seduction was using hypnosis to
completely take away a woman’s free will and make her do everything you
wanted, which essentially would turn her into a hypno-slave. That’s
the marketing, that’s the concept, that’s what he tries to teach people.
And now here he is badmouthing the very stuff he encouraged for
YEARS, until his "sudden" turn around into a "good guy" last year when
he was desperate to save his business and had to mend some fences.
Lame.
And you know the best part about this interview? It’s when MINE’99
starts getting defensive with Dr. Phil and tries to lecture to the
guy. Now, I’m certainly no fan of Dr. Phil, but ya gotta respect a guy
who smacks down MINE’99s bullshit when he starts shoveling it out.
Then, to make matters better, when Dr. Phil tries to peg him as a
sleazbag by teaching men how to get laid, MINE’99 tries to defend
himself by saying his marketing for his stuff is MISLEADING, and it
doesn’t really help guys get laid.
Ha ha ha ha ha…
He might as well have just said "I gotta lie about my shit because otherwise NO ONE WOULD BUY IT!"
He then goes on to defend his Get Laid newsletter by saying "I wrote
that in 1993!" (Wow, six years before 1999 – guess that stuff sucks
even worse, huh?)
So not only is his stuff misleading and ineffective, it hasn’t been
updated in 15 years. I don’t know about you, but what I was doing to
get chicks 15 years ago has changed dramatically to what works for me
today. Way to stay current Rossy-boy.
Misleading, ineffective, AND outdated. Yay! Don’t you just want to go out and buy Speed Seduction right now???
Then Dr. Phil accuses MINE’99 of being a pimp. Dr. Phil got this
one wrong. People pay Pimps to get laid. People pay Ross to learn how
to stay at home and masturbate more. I’ve seen Hustle & Flow.
That guy was a pimp. You, MINE’99 are certainly no Pimp.
Then Ross goes on the ATTACK. He starts bad mouthing the MM boys by saying:
"There’s
a lot these guys do that they didn’t talk to you about that’s actually
really kind-of nasty. One of the things they rely on doing is flipping
women back and forth between feeling like they are being approved of,
and feeling they are being criticized. They do something called
Push-Pull, where they give the woman a little attention, and they’ll
pull it away so she doubts whether they’re attracted to her or not.
They use a lot of invalidation, the theory being that if you invalidate
a woman, she’ll have sex with you to prove her attractiveness. There’s
a lot of that going on."
At this point, Nick Savoy
says that this isn’t true. And you know what? It’s NOT!!! Swinggcat
(Speed Seductions former top student) was the one who pioneered the
Push-Pull theory. I don’t recall Mystery Method ever using that stuff
- even if they say they do, it’s not true Push-Pull the way it was
initially conceived.
And the humorous thing here is that what Ross describes is something
Speed Seduction teaches – only in a lot less effective way – by using
fractionation and anchoring and submodalities. He is basically
criticizing everything he teaches himself right here! Unreal.
But oh, it gets better…
"What they said about it
not being canned routines is ridiculous. They use huge amounts of
canned routines. When they ask your opinion, they don’t really care.
In fact, they’ll interrupt you when you try and give it and go on to
finish the routine."
Wow, this coming from a guy
whose entire SEDUCTION SYSTEM is about memorizing canned hypnotic
patterns and vomiting them back up with every girl you meet. In order
for Speed Seduction to even be remotely effective, you’ve got to
memorize like 300 of these suckers. And do you honestly think MINE’99
gives a fuck if a girl has ever really watched that roller coaster
documentary on the discovery channel? Do you think he CARES what she
really felt like when she was a little girl discovering her Christmas
presents?
Honestly, this is hypocracy at it’s best.
This is even illustrated further when MINE’99 explains what he
"teaches," and then Dr. Phil says "But that’s not the way you sell it
on your website." To which MINE’99 responds "No, absolutely not."
Let me repeat that in a different way:
MINE’99 DOES NOT ACTUALLY DELIVER WHAT HE PROMISES TO SELL YOU.
He even admits it on national TV.
And then the girls chime in. They even say the Mystery Method guys
are trying to do what Ross says is the "right way" to pick up women,
but that they’re doing it in a "Better Fashion."
Translation: Ross’s shit don’t work. MM’s shit does.
Another girls says it’s creeping her out.
Translation: Ross is creepy. His teachings are creepy. Therefore, she is creeped out.
Then the final girl says she never wants to go to a bar never
again. Someone should warn her that MINE’99 and his students don’t go
to bars, so that’s probably the SAFEST place to be.
And finally – Ross completely DENIES that he teaches hypnosis! They lying continues…
That
is a complete mistake. All elements of strong human emotion have a
hypnotic aspect to them because they are taking place subconsciously.
So
wait a minute… MINE’99 doesn’t really teach hypnosis? No more NLP
based material? No weasel phrases? No Blowjob patterns? He must have
completely dropped synesthisia and embedded commands. No more
hap-PENIS. No sir. Speed Seduction has now evolved to a kinder,
gentler, and even less effective form of seduction, ladies and
gentlemen. Huzzah!
Dr. Phil: Are you teaching hypnosis or anything related to hypnosis?
Ross: No! No – I am teaching something far more disturbing, and I want you to listen to this.
By
the way, that was a hypnotic command, but whatever. I love how all of
MINE’99s sales material and course material is all based around
hypnosis, and here he is blatantly LYING and saying it isn’t. He also
never said how much more disturbing the stuff he teaches is, he just
kind of leaves it at that – which could possibly be the first true
thing he said the entire interview.
So Dr. Phil finally asks "What is it you do???" To which MINE’99 responds:
"I teach men how to use language with women to evoke strong emotion."
Really?
Wow – sounds like hypnosis to me! Go figure. I mean, isn’t that NLP?
Using language to evoke desired emotion? NLP = hypnosis last I checked.
Even in MINE’99s example of what he teaches, he describes a hypnotic
induction loaded with weasel phrases and embedded commands, then talks
about mirroring her answers back to her. Yeah, that’s not hypnosis.
Riiiiiiiight.
Even the women in the audience look like they can’t believe the bullshit MINE’99 is spinning!
Let me ask you something, dear reader… for a man who claims to
teach other men how to influence women, why is it he can’t freakin’
influence Dr. Phil, a room full of women, and an entire television
audience?
BECAUSE HE’S FULL OF SHIT.
Always has been. And always will be.
Ross is a liar. He’s an insecure little dweeb. He’s a hateful,
spiteful person. He is incredibly selfish. He cares about no one
other than himself. He’s been teaching seduction for decades and is
still single. All his best students have moved on to different methods
of seduction. All his closest friends, allies and business partners
have deserted him.
You ever wonder why this is?
Simple: He’s a fake. And not only is he a fake, he’s a MEAN fake
no one likes. At least Tyler Durden is charismatic enough so people
overlook the fact he’s a raging sociopath. Ross can’t even be that
intelligent – even when he’s on national TV. He spends all his time
attacking and bad mouthing other people and can’t even fully describe
what it is he does.
This is the problem with MINE’99, and always has been. He focuses
so much on all the NEGATIVE stuff, he never comes across as likable or
sympathetic. If you ask me – he should be taking as many pick up
workshops as possible, because it’s obvious if he just got laid a few
times, he might chill out. But no, he keeps being the faker. The
insecure virgin. The loser he always has been.
Here’s my final word on the matter:
Men need to learn from people who can actually do what they say
they’ll do. They need teachers who aren’t more messed up than they
are. They need people who won’t lie to them and will treat them
honestly. They need guidance from experienced teachers.
Mystery Method is all of those things. Ross is none of them.
And this video proves that.
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SmartStreaming.TV: the smart way to watch global TV from around the world
More and more users want to enjoy global platforms.
A Canadian who wants Hulu, an user in Australia who needs BBC iPlayer, or a European traveler who misses RTVE.
The problem is always the same: geo-restrictions.
This is where SmartStreaming.TV comes in.
With this platform, you can enjoy international catalogs as if you were back home.
How does it work?
Online services recognize your location through your device IP.
SmartStreaming.TV masks your real IP and gives you an IP in the country where the content is available.
That means a Canadian can watch Netflix US without limitations.
The big advantage
- Fast and secure
- Completely allowed
- Ready for consoles, laptops and phones
- Easy to install
Ideal for frequent travelers
If you spend time overseas, SmartStreaming.TV is your must-have tool.
No more losing access to your national channels just because you’re away from home.
With SmartStreaming.TV your entertainment is without borders.
Wherever you are, your programs is one click away.