Dr. Phil Bitch Slaps Ross Jeffries – Have Video Proof
April 22, 2008 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Ha ha ha – he he he – hoo hoo hoo…
Ah, where to begin…
First of all – why the hell would any of these guys go on Dr. Phil in the first place? Do you know any GUYS who watch Dr. Phil? (Well, STRAIGHT guys?) I certainly don’t. Dr. Phil’s audience is WOMEN. So why bother wasting time pitching your seduction business to a bunch of chicks if you aren’t teaching them how to get men? Snarf.
Okay, all that aside though – I thought the Mystery Method guys came off very well in this show. They were cool, calm, collected and walked that fine line between being "politically correct" and honest about what they teach. Fact is, Mystery Method DOES work on women. It is effective. That’s why it’s taken off the way it has.
Now, whatever you feel about Savoy and the current state of Mystery Method, post-Mystery, is immaterial to this show. Sure, I would like it if Mystery was still in charge of the Mystery Method name, but that doesn’t mean these guys aren’t offering value to other men by teaching what they are. (Plus, there’s a lot of behind the scenes stuff about the meltdown over at Mystery Method I won’t be sharing here, since I’ve been sworn to secrecy not to reveal it.)
So now that we’ve got Mystery Method out of the way, let’s get to the real mean and potatoes of this.
Ross "MINE’99" Jeffries.
And boy oh boy, was MINE’99 channeling all his evil, selfish, hypocritical energies in this episode! Wow. I knew MINE’99 was delusional, but the extent of his warped reality has only gotten worse with age. Maybe his horrible friz-fro is somehow affecting his brain in the same way an alien parasite would? Who knows.
Anyway, back to the show…
First off MINE’99 proudly proclaims that he is the "father" of the
seduction community. Though he did start the online newsgroups, I want
to officially amend this title to the "mentally-off creepy uncle who
likes to molest you when he gets drunk" of the seduction community,
since that is probably a more accurate statement of his real role in
it’s birth and development.
He says he wants to give men a way to get women without
participating in the four "B"s – Bullying, Begging, Buying, and Booze.
Which doesn’t make any sense since it’s obvious MINE’99 would never get
any female attention without partaking in all of those things he just
mentioned. But regardless, he left out the fifth "B" which is
BULLSHIT. Or maybe not, since Speed Seduction is exactly that.
Moving on…
Then he starts talking about the "Dark Side" of seduction. He goes on to say:
There
are people in this community who are teaching methods and tactics that
I think women should definitely be aware of. There are people who are
teaching some very sick and twisted stuff. And I do sort-of feel like
Dr. Frankenstein, I’ve given birth to a monster. There’s 10,000
bastard children of mine running around and I sort-of feel like its a
responsibility of mine to clean it up. I would like to put them out of
business if I could. Had I not started this, they wouldn’t have been
around.
Honestly, I’m surprised he didn’t finish with "IN 1999!!!!!!" *dum dum duuuuuum!*
Yes, MINE’99′s ego has not diminished along with his looks, age, and
penis size. He has become even MORE egomaniacal as he’s become more
and more irrelevant.
MINE’99 was the FATHER of teaching sick and twisted ways to seduce
women! His entire BUSINESS is based on it! And he acts like he’s the
one who spawned all the lame-ass copy cats.
News Flash: No one is ripping off Speed Seduction because it
SUCKS. If anyone can claim to have a billion bastard kids running
around perverting his teachings for their own gain, it’s MYSTERY since
almost every workshop business in existence is teaching what is
essentially his stuff!
I love how MINE’99 is acting like a crusader wanting to "put people
out of business if he could." Didn’t he try and destroy David DeAngelo
for years? Didn’t he launch a crusade targeting Mystery which ended in
death threats? Has he not tried to shut this very blog down numerous
times by sending me threating BS legal letters?
This is a guy who is SO insecure, he even brings his lawyer with him
to Neil Strauss’s book signings in case anyone bad-mouths him. Ross
still yearns for the good old days when he was the only game in town.
And honestly, if it wasn’t for Neil swooping in and making him part of
his Stylelife business, he’d probably have gone under a while ago
himself.
The fact is: Ross doesn’t GIVE A SHIT about helping other guys or
saving the seduction community from the "rip off artists." He just
hates the competition which has all but sunk his business and forcing
him to go on shows like Dr. Phil to drum up business. He only cares
about his EGO, which is what ultimately drives the man.
Notice how MINE’99 dodges the question when Dr. Phil asks him "How
successful have you been at this from a business standpoint?" Fact is,
last time he was successful was a DECADE ago. His business is all but
treading water at the moment because not only does his stuff suck, but
his former business partner is running a competing business selling the
SAME FREAKIN’ CRAPPY PRODUCTS. But MINE’99 turns it around using his
ninja MindLines skills and says "I’ve certainly been VERY influential."
Yeah, right.
Influential in the respect that you have taught men around the world what NOT to do if they want to get a chick. Obviously.
Next is where the interview gets REALLY good.
So Dr. Phil asks "Have you been on the sleazy side of this, and now
you don’t like the direction its taken?" To which MINE’99 completely
lies through his freakin’ crooked teeth.
"What
disturbs me is that the other schools that have cropped up rely a lot
on invalidation, on making women doubt their attractiveness, on
techniques that make women uncertain of whether they are being
complimented or insulted. They’re digging into people’s LOWEST
emotions – their fears, their insecurities, and I don’t think that’s a
valid way to attract someone AT ALL."
Ah… so
sayeth the man who who created the BLOWJOB PATTERN. This is a guy who
would not only teach people how to anchor bad, evil, feelings of loss
and abandonment to doors to keep women from breaking up with you – but
he would REVEL in it. This is a guy who would share with people how to
hypnotically regress women back to childhood and mess with their sexual
development and identity in order to get laid. This is a guy who
actually ENCOURAGED men to walk up to women and say "My name is Manny
The Martian. What is your favorite flavored bowling ball?"
The whole concept behind Speed Seduction was using hypnosis to
completely take away a woman’s free will and make her do everything you
wanted, which essentially would turn her into a hypno-slave. That’s
the marketing, that’s the concept, that’s what he tries to teach people.
And now here he is badmouthing the very stuff he encouraged for
YEARS, until his "sudden" turn around into a "good guy" last year when
he was desperate to save his business and had to mend some fences.
Lame.
And you know the best part about this interview? It’s when MINE’99
starts getting defensive with Dr. Phil and tries to lecture to the
guy. Now, I’m certainly no fan of Dr. Phil, but ya gotta respect a guy
who smacks down MINE’99s bullshit when he starts shoveling it out.
Then, to make matters better, when Dr. Phil tries to peg him as a
sleazbag by teaching men how to get laid, MINE’99 tries to defend
himself by saying his marketing for his stuff is MISLEADING, and it
doesn’t really help guys get laid.
Ha ha ha ha ha…
He might as well have just said "I gotta lie about my shit because otherwise NO ONE WOULD BUY IT!"
He then goes on to defend his Get Laid newsletter by saying "I wrote
that in 1993!" (Wow, six years before 1999 – guess that stuff sucks
even worse, huh?)
So not only is his stuff misleading and ineffective, it hasn’t been
updated in 15 years. I don’t know about you, but what I was doing to
get chicks 15 years ago has changed dramatically to what works for me
today. Way to stay current Rossy-boy.
Misleading, ineffective, AND outdated. Yay! Don’t you just want to go out and buy Speed Seduction right now???
Then Dr. Phil accuses MINE’99 of being a pimp. Dr. Phil got this
one wrong. People pay Pimps to get laid. People pay Ross to learn how
to stay at home and masturbate more. I’ve seen Hustle & Flow.
That guy was a pimp. You, MINE’99 are certainly no Pimp.
Then Ross goes on the ATTACK. He starts bad mouthing the MM boys by saying:
"There’s
a lot these guys do that they didn’t talk to you about that’s actually
really kind-of nasty. One of the things they rely on doing is flipping
women back and forth between feeling like they are being approved of,
and feeling they are being criticized. They do something called
Push-Pull, where they give the woman a little attention, and they’ll
pull it away so she doubts whether they’re attracted to her or not.
They use a lot of invalidation, the theory being that if you invalidate
a woman, she’ll have sex with you to prove her attractiveness. There’s
a lot of that going on."
At this point, Nick Savoy
says that this isn’t true. And you know what? It’s NOT!!! Swinggcat
(Speed Seductions former top student) was the one who pioneered the
Push-Pull theory. I don’t recall Mystery Method ever using that stuff
- even if they say they do, it’s not true Push-Pull the way it was
initially conceived.
And the humorous thing here is that what Ross describes is something
Speed Seduction teaches – only in a lot less effective way – by using
fractionation and anchoring and submodalities. He is basically
criticizing everything he teaches himself right here! Unreal.
But oh, it gets better…
"What they said about it
not being canned routines is ridiculous. They use huge amounts of
canned routines. When they ask your opinion, they don’t really care.
In fact, they’ll interrupt you when you try and give it and go on to
finish the routine."
Wow, this coming from a guy
whose entire SEDUCTION SYSTEM is about memorizing canned hypnotic
patterns and vomiting them back up with every girl you meet. In order
for Speed Seduction to even be remotely effective, you’ve got to
memorize like 300 of these suckers. And do you honestly think MINE’99
gives a fuck if a girl has ever really watched that roller coaster
documentary on the discovery channel? Do you think he CARES what she
really felt like when she was a little girl discovering her Christmas
presents?
Honestly, this is hypocracy at it’s best.
This is even illustrated further when MINE’99 explains what he
"teaches," and then Dr. Phil says "But that’s not the way you sell it
on your website." To which MINE’99 responds "No, absolutely not."
Let me repeat that in a different way:
MINE’99 DOES NOT ACTUALLY DELIVER WHAT HE PROMISES TO SELL YOU.
He even admits it on national TV.
And then the girls chime in. They even say the Mystery Method guys
are trying to do what Ross says is the "right way" to pick up women,
but that they’re doing it in a "Better Fashion."
Translation: Ross’s shit don’t work. MM’s shit does.
Another girls says it’s creeping her out.
Translation: Ross is creepy. His teachings are creepy. Therefore, she is creeped out.
Then the final girl says she never wants to go to a bar never
again. Someone should warn her that MINE’99 and his students don’t go
to bars, so that’s probably the SAFEST place to be.
And finally – Ross completely DENIES that he teaches hypnosis! They lying continues…
That
is a complete mistake. All elements of strong human emotion have a
hypnotic aspect to them because they are taking place subconsciously.
So
wait a minute… MINE’99 doesn’t really teach hypnosis? No more NLP
based material? No weasel phrases? No Blowjob patterns? He must have
completely dropped synesthisia and embedded commands. No more
hap-PENIS. No sir. Speed Seduction has now evolved to a kinder,
gentler, and even less effective form of seduction, ladies and
gentlemen. Huzzah!
Dr. Phil: Are you teaching hypnosis or anything related to hypnosis?
Ross: No! No – I am teaching something far more disturbing, and I want you to listen to this.
By
the way, that was a hypnotic command, but whatever. I love how all of
MINE’99s sales material and course material is all based around
hypnosis, and here he is blatantly LYING and saying it isn’t. He also
never said how much more disturbing the stuff he teaches is, he just
kind of leaves it at that – which could possibly be the first true
thing he said the entire interview.
So Dr. Phil finally asks "What is it you do???" To which MINE’99 responds:
"I teach men how to use language with women to evoke strong emotion."
Really?
Wow – sounds like hypnosis to me! Go figure. I mean, isn’t that NLP?
Using language to evoke desired emotion? NLP = hypnosis last I checked.
Even in MINE’99s example of what he teaches, he describes a hypnotic
induction loaded with weasel phrases and embedded commands, then talks
about mirroring her answers back to her. Yeah, that’s not hypnosis.
Riiiiiiiight.
Even the women in the audience look like they can’t believe the bullshit MINE’99 is spinning!
Let me ask you something, dear reader… for a man who claims to
teach other men how to influence women, why is it he can’t freakin’
influence Dr. Phil, a room full of women, and an entire television
audience?
BECAUSE HE’S FULL OF SHIT.
Always has been. And always will be.
Ross is a liar. He’s an insecure little dweeb. He’s a hateful,
spiteful person. He is incredibly selfish. He cares about no one
other than himself. He’s been teaching seduction for decades and is
still single. All his best students have moved on to different methods
of seduction. All his closest friends, allies and business partners
have deserted him.
You ever wonder why this is?
Simple: He’s a fake. And not only is he a fake, he’s a MEAN fake
no one likes. At least Tyler Durden is charismatic enough so people
overlook the fact he’s a raging sociopath. Ross can’t even be that
intelligent – even when he’s on national TV. He spends all his time
attacking and bad mouthing other people and can’t even fully describe
what it is he does.
This is the problem with MINE’99, and always has been. He focuses
so much on all the NEGATIVE stuff, he never comes across as likable or
sympathetic. If you ask me – he should be taking as many pick up
workshops as possible, because it’s obvious if he just got laid a few
times, he might chill out. But no, he keeps being the faker. The
insecure virgin. The loser he always has been.
Here’s my final word on the matter:
Men need to learn from people who can actually do what they say
they’ll do. They need teachers who aren’t more messed up than they
are. They need people who won’t lie to them and will treat them
honestly. They need guidance from experienced teachers.
Mystery Method is all of those things. Ross is none of them.
And this video proves that.
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Thundercat,
For ones, I agree with you all the way.
He spends all his time attacking and bad mouthing other people and can’t even fully describe what it is he does.
This is the problem with MINE’99, and always has been. He focuses so much on all the NEGATIVE stuff, he never comes across as likable or sympathetic
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Dude… You are right. But have you ever thought that by calling these so-called guru’s out, that it’s a reflection on your own self?
Let me put it in this term. Negative people screen out and find negative things. Positive people don’t have time for negative things.
Everything you have said here is also a reflection on yourself. Of course you’ll see this as bullshit but i’m just saying dude.. why even worry about this shit? why even talk about this shit?
They obviously are not worth the time. Why associate your blog with these type of people? I just think you have better and much more greater things to right about because what your doing here is pretty much fueling the fire.
what adam’s talking about is called projection, and it is the mechanism that underlies transference
wow….such rage…..if you keep up with this you’ll have a friggin’ stroke
Hey,
What is the significance of 1999? Did something happen with Ross that year?
Oh Thundy, you are so hot when you are angry.
Speaking of videos that prove things, if you want proof of my ability as a teacher and how my system is literally saving guys’ lives, look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjtDRBp0Cq0
And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDtKk7L3TYs
And look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPYBv1Nimg
I’ve decided any more to let my work speak for me.
I challenge anyone else in the community to provide video proof that their work changes lives as my work does.
Peace and piece,
RJ
http://www.speedseduction.biz/nailyourinnergamepromo.php
Ross, Ross, Ross…
Honestly, I don’t see how ANYONE can look at that video and say “This guy has his inner game together. I want to learn from him!”
You basically admitted you don’t teach what you say you do! You said your marketing is all a LIE. You are a LIAR. You say you don’t teach hypnosis. But you really teach hypnosis.
Lies, lies, and more lies.
So when you say “my system is literally saving guy’s lives” how can you expect anyone to believe you?
You have always been a lame, insecure, fake. And now you proved that on national TV.
Thundercat
Thundy,
How can they say you have your inner game together too if you’re whining about a tv show?
Dude, You have talent in other area’s then this. Don’t let guru gossip and bashing define you, define yourself with what you are good at, knowledge and great content.
Just a thought.
“SS saved my fuckin’ life in college” – Thundercat, 12/29/03, reposted on this very blog on 02/04/04 under the title “Kicked and Banned”.
So you don’t like Ross Jeffries or his methods. Fair enough, neither do I. However, credit where credit is due Thundy, Ross Jeffries DOES save lives. He saved yours when you were suicidal back in college by your own admission.
That’s true – but you also have to remember that there wasn’t anything else out there at the time. When I found SS, Double Your Dating wasn’t even in existence, and no one knew about Mystery. It was the only game in town.
Also, being a former SSer, I can honestly tell you it is the WORST system of seduction out there. I never got any results from it, and 99% of the people who used it never saw any results.
And my problem isn’t even with SS, since I know NLP is a valid technology. My problem here is Ross. He has no business teaching anybody anything. Just look at that video for crying out loud! It’s obvious the man is a psychopath!!! Do you really want to learn from someone like that? Honestly?
Thundercat
Thundy, I’m not debating how good/bad SS is.
Ross said he saves lives and you called him a liar, despite the fact that you know at least one person (yourself) who’s life was saved.
The fact that your life was saved by Ross is a fact, independent of the debate of how good SS is.
Ross it’s over. Anyone who has seen that Dr phil show that is not already a diehard fan hates your guts. Your pathetic. There are long threads about it all over the forums. Your a moron dude, give it a rest.
Bitch boy with the Jew Fro’ Jeffries tried to play good cop but got busted, he didn’t seem very congruent in what he was saying and how he was acting for this supposed seduction guru. I think he is older than my damn dad!!
Thundy I’m with you on this one.
Bitch boy with the Jew Fro’ Jeffries tried to play good cop but got busted, he didn’t seem very congruent in what he was saying and how he was acting for this supposed seduction guru. I think he is older than my damn dad!!
Thundy I’m with you on this one.
Well…someone`s being a bit reactive here…:)
If you for some reason want to warn people against RJ, you should try to keep your arguments sensible and your temper under control. At times you sound like a 15-year-old.
“Ross it’s over. Anyone who has seen that Dr phil show that is not already a diehard fan hates your guts. Your pathetic. There are long threads about it all over the forums. Your a moron dude, give it a rest.’
“It’s better to be talked about than NOT talked about”
Oscar Wilde
Thundercat—you’re so obviously full of shit, and bitterness, that it completely undermines your credibility. SS doesn’t work? Ask David D’s girlfriend. What, did Ross fuck your girlfriend too?
Thundercat, I call on you to repudiate the racist and anti-semitic attacks made by one of these posters.
Do you condone that level of hate? What is next? Calling me “kike” and “Christ Killer”?
Even you should agree on some limits here….
RJ
Why such hatred of RJ? You laugh at his contention that he started this stuff–but then say he was the only one out there! I am new to this–I only sprouted pubic hair recently (my uncle was thrilled and insisted on inspecting them 1st hand,which was…weird)but I am impressed that Ross is a master of NLP and Ericksonian hypnosis.C’mon,hypnotizin’ a chick to do you is cool!!J/K! What is REALLY the best and simplest(I am a bit ‘special’)way to get those panties a droppin’??
According to Ross, he doesn’t teach hypnosis, so obviously you shouldn’t go to him to learn to hypnotize a chick.
RJ – maybe you should have thought about limits before you went on Dr. Phil. You came off as a complete tool.
And get rid of the jew fro. It looks horrible. (BTW, that’s a Knocked Up reference, not an anti-semetic insult, you kyke.)
Stick a penis in your eye!!!
Massad rules!!!
Boys Boys settle down…cum to my place for my special soup..well dip our little breadsticks in until they are drenched then we can gobble them up…then well play on my waterbed a game of tummy checkers…
Crying anti-semitism, Ross? Typical behaviour from a filthy kike like yourself. You are evil in it’s purest form as is your entire filthy system of “speed seduction.” Rot in hell.
Is it just me…
..or do Ross and Thundercat appear strikingly similar in mindsets, attitude and behaviour when it comes to many things such as women, ways of marketing, handling a discussion and generally looking at the world?
That must be why they love each other so much
It’s just you Captain Obvious. Ross and I are nothing alike. I actually care about helping people. He only cares about himself.
And please, no ethnic insults. That’s not cool. Hate Ross for the right reasons, please.
Thundercat
I suggest you all go to pickuppodcast.com and listen to Episodes 41 and 42.
RJ
sad that you took the time to review ross’s interview word-by-word.
you tend to have the time to do this when not getting pussy
BTW: I am not jewish or anything, but i think that some fo the racial comments posted here Are out of place.
and i wonder if some of you people would have said the same about other jewish or partially jewish PUAS such as Style, Swinggcat, David D., and many more.
guys were hitting a new low, just omit the crude remarks above.
ss never worked for me. tried it and either couldn’t perform it right or i felt too uncomfortable.
i wouldn’t even go on that show if i was an NLP based teacher, it was a f’n trap.
i can’t believe the jealous girlfriend opener is still even being taught. what is this ancient shit!
the fact remains that rj was made to look terrible and he did.
it happens
lets remember that dr phil is edited.
its easy to make someone look bad.
hey and didnt savoy hoodwink mysterys
entire company off of him?? is n t that
worse than ross putting a slight spin on
things?
How amusing that even a ‘chode” AFC’s girlfriend will tell the world she’s fucking him, yet a “PUA” or a “guru” never seems to have a hint of a conqeust at all.
Mystery method w/out mystery is just god-awful .
i didnt even know guys would pay those obvious scam artists.
Gee, how cute to see people who are so SCARED of competing against me that they flame me and don’t even allow mention of my name or poducts when they can get away with it, are whining that Ross ripped them a new one.
With me they don’t even bother talking about my writing, as they often use my teachings, but lies made up years ago by others.
I wonder how Dr. Phil would have reacted if I had drawn a line of evidence straight from the “community” to the white-supremacist group it enlisted to harass me, or showed him some of the offline harassment directed ag my dying mother, “warning” her that her primary caregiver shouldn’t be living with her.
When the whole truth about this CARTEL comes out on TV — and you can be sure it will, as the media is starting to ask me about it — let’s see who is where.
We’ve all been taken for a ride for years by Ross & Thundercat. Their “fights” are actually prearranged and designed to increase site traffic for both parties. See this link:
http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/04/20/ross-jefferies-vs-david-wygant/
Comment by Ross Jeffries on 24 April 2008:
“…every internet attack on another guru that I’ve made in the past 10 years was pre-discussed and pre-arranged to generate traffic for myself and the other party.
…
Thundercat? He’s one of my affiliates and collects paypal commissions every month.”
Cunts.
Just stop Ray. I almost laughed at your delusions, but then I remembered that I’m a student of psychology.
ENOUGH with the damn seduction “cartel”
why don’t you wait until something about Mystery comes up so you can revive your feud with him… and NOT accept his challenge to go to a strip club and
Pull Out(c) “The Game” and try to convince a girl that she should stop talking and start fucking since you’re not like Mystery who sounds “bad”
Thundercat, if you genuinely cared about helping others, you’d offer real content on this blog, instead of starting petty flame wars over shit that happened years ago; that you just can’t let go. Post some decent articles you wrote yourself on pulling girls, becoming a better person etc cetera like oh, I dunno… Tyler @ RSD
Oh please, it IS a cartel.
It’s like a chain of supermarkets that only sells Pepsi while acting like Coca-Cola doesn’t exist. It’s circle-jerk marketing
Whatever you claim to be, you’re just another anonymous internet cockroach who wants to be taken seriously without scrutiny. Real alphas don’t hide.
Btw, the “strip club challenge” was Mystery vs. the strippers to see who was lying about whether or not they go home with customers.
The link between the community and white supremacists is genuine and easily proven. Anyone would be a fool to give up their information as customers and risk that type of harassment if they speak up.
People here talk about how lame it is to flame the competition yet that’s all they ever do to me. The rules about flaming them are the same as for flaming anyone, me or otherwise. Don’t try taking the high road after so many years on the low.
Who the fuck are you?
do not respond to ray gordon hes a major crank. the attention is his oxygen. let him suffocate!!
also who here of the thundercat readers remembers “random samurai”??
“The link between the community and white supremacists is genuine and easily proven.”
Damn it! I was only PRETENDING to be a Jew! We know how us ws’s LOVE Jews! Better give Strauss the heads up to pretend harder too!
Obi one,
I remember Random Samurai.
He seemed kinda annoying, but I think I missed the main threads where he made a name for/ target out of himself.
I just used to constantly read people flaming him.
And yes Ray, I know,
“Ignore the man behind the curtain”.
If I were you, I’d keep my secrets hidden. Hidden from the seduction Cartel, as well as the CIA. None of them deserve to know your secrets.
That’ll show ‘em.
Let them all wallow in their outdated hand solo method.
And I hear Mystery’s show is coming back for a second season. *Jackpot!*
I’m sure that’ll be a fun time for you
The “community” is run by jews? Did someone here say that Style and Deangelo are Jewish? No wonder it’s a fucking scam. These people run the media, the drug companies, everything.. All for the destruction of the White Race.
No wonder this community is full of such money grabbing scam artists. Fucking kikes.
I’ll be honest here, the whole community is a scam. If you can’t get laid from your looks (like me) you’re a hopeless case.
I fully agree. Thanks for posting this video. Wow, RJ is a laugh riot in this video. I can’t believe people used to actually pay that man money. This is all about ego and fighting the competition for him, he’s the last person to take any kind of moral stance regarding pickup. That punchline from Magnolia where Frank Mackey teaches his students “How to Fake Like You Are Nice and Caring” is taken from the name of a chapter in RJ’s book!
On some level I feel bad for Mystery, in contrasting the MM guys here with his Conan appearances. He came up with these concepts but more mainstream guys like Savoy and Style who can make it seem “normal” come off so much better. I guess to live by peacocking is to die by peacocking.
Hey Chaco……what’s your address?
LMAO @ that stupid douche Ross Jeffries and his dumbass SS followers.
Thanks Thundercat for exposing all the community losers and scammers (excuse the redundancy…)
Whilst I think what Jeffries did was a disgrace to himself and to the community he’s supposed to be a part of, long-winded posts like this, breaking down EVERY LAST DETAIL of the show, and going to so much effort in order to slag off a bad person….
it’s pretty sad. come on mate. all you had to do was post the video, do a little light commentary, leave it as that. dedicate the rest of the blog to helping people, and leave the drama to the chickenheads.
Ross Jefferies come across as a complete loon thb…
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Gunner’s Pick Up Blog
THundercat,
if you are looking to spawn up another gossip thread worthy of the RSD masterpiece, let me give you some hints:
1) You need it to be something that’s debateable. With RSD there are a lot of die hards and people who can see the good, thats why it worked. This one not so much. Everyone knows Ross is a extremely messed up individual, and for some of us we have NEVER met anyone more clueless or fucked in the head. There’s just not that much to debate, and razzing on him is just bully at this point because the man obviously has serious problems, so why do we feel the need to bring him down further. We gave our say — that he is a fuckin loon — thats that.
2) Ross is a has been, he’s not at the top. How about an article sighting into someone like ohhh say Mehow? Is he gay is he not gay? Does he use gayness to get in with the girls easier — ect ect ect.
With Ross there is no mystery. Ross is a bitter old man, his days are coming to an end, his image is widely creepy within the community and every time someone gives him a chance to make a comeback he gets too greedy and narcisistic and cant see the forest beyond the tree’s. He wants it all now — and then he wants to teach US inner game and hypnotise us and rewire us???
Fuck I would rather attach a bungee chord to my penis and jump into an ocean with rabid sea creatures!!
I mean c’mon guys, he basically committed career suicide on the dr phil show, you dont have to feel bad for the guy because he brough it on himself but your not saying anything to him that he doesnt already know.
Ross,
Take my advice and get out of the community thing, do something respectable, try to start a new business. Use what you have learned to fix your own inner game. Ever wonder why you were so interested in the mind? Because your subconsciously trying to find a way to fix yourself. Back before the dr phil thing came out i looked into some of your stuff. You have some very apparent flaws in how you communicate with people. Work on those. You CAN become a better person someday if you really just focus on you and not everyone else. There is some good in you behind all the bs and all the bad behaviors and inner game, apparently you just dont realize it — even at the mature age you are at now. You like to try to save other peoples lives? Save your own life dude.
If you INSIST on trying to make a comeback in the community, and you refuse to work on your inner game than at this point its better just to come out with a product that displays what you do best — how to be deceitful and mislead, how to be narcisistic, how to be selfish, ect. Be true to yourself.