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The Annihilation Method Is HERE!

May 27, 2006 by  
Filed under News

You’ve been waiting for it, and now its here.

THE ANNIHILATION METHOD!

At 10:00 am pacific time (that’s 1:00 pm Eastern), be sure to go to:

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For your chance to get the most advanced seduction system known to man.

With 8 DVDs, 7 CDs, and over 1,000 pages of text, all from the world’s greatest pick-up artist, Neil Strauss, you simply can’t go wrong.

(By the way, Neil’s blueprint workbooks in the Annihilation Method are collected from his super-secret Mystery’s Lounge archive)

This is also the first and ONLY course where you’ll get to see these pick-up methods performed on LIVE women.

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Remember: Neil is only releasing 375 copies of the Annihilation Method.

After that, he will never release it again.

So if you miss out now, you miss out FOR GOOD.

So go to the site:

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The clock is ticking…

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Comments

111 Responses to “The Annihilation Method Is HERE!”
  1. wannabe says:

    There are only 375 due to legal reasons, being the women in the video agreed to be in it as long as no more copies were released.

    Of course, in a couple of months, style will edit the DVD’s, cut out the women & re-sell a stripped down version for all us AFC’s who don’t have any money.

    Aren’t we lucky, guys????

  2. Howard Hughes says:

    BS – that was just one of the many lies in the emails.

    No woman ever said, “375 copies is ok, but 376 and I sue!”

    Strauss is incredibly smart; too bad he thinks we’re all idiots. (OTOH, he couldn’t be blamed for thinking that if he reads this thread.)

  3. How'd he get the release forms for the women? says:

    The women in the videos would have had to sign release forms if their faces are being shown.

    How’d he manage to get that done if these were just random women picked up in a club?

  4. Leonardo DiCasanova says:

    Is it too late to get my copy? Leonardo?????

    The Pick Up Artist

    Who are they and what are they?

    They are guys who are either naturally good with women or guys who have made a career out of being good with women.

    The new multi-millon dollar pick up artist business has emerged. These pick up artists get paid thousands of dollars for teaching desperate AFC’s (average frustrated chumps) their moves.

    They teach psychological techniques, inner game, magic tricks and hypnosis.
    They wear wild clothes, funky hats, pinky rings, shiny silver shirts and backpacks.

    They are professional pick up artists and they get paid to pick up women. They put on workshops and seminars. Prices range from $1,000 to $5,000 for men attending weekend PUA seminars and practice their game with their gurus at the bars. Some just do seminars and a few like Mystery will actually go out into clubs and demonstrate their skill in picking up women. There is only one man, the GRAND MASTER who is so good that he actually picks up and SEDUCES women in real life for him and his clients, WOW!!!! Elvis Preston King. It is my life’s ambition to learn his system. His wingman went from zero to the top and fast. Add insult to injury the other pick up artists are young men. The King, Elvis Preston King is an OLD MAN. I mean a senior playboy. He was proven to be the real deal over at Cliff’s Seduction List. Cliff got laid every day for week when he hung out with the king. The young men of the world are having a hard time accepting that an old guy can get laid more than any one on earth! It is simply out of there ability to comprehend or believe.

    Some of these guys are good and I mean good. There are many master pick up artists out there, the world over, but there are only two known GRAND MASTERS, Elvis Preston King and Elvis’s wingman Alberto Prince. Even your author is a pick up artist, but I have not acquired a Masters degree yet. I am trying to become the new wingman for Elvis Preston King if Alberto Prince ever steps down. Oh sure I could take a course from Mystery or Style but they are not active in the game. They caught the disease called one-it-is, (the love of just one woman). I have also heard that Badboy is good and David Deangelo has studied the pick up artist game thoroughly and has some great ideas and is a master in knowledge but only average in the field.

    Other pick up artists worthy of honorable mention are Ross Jeffries, Thundercat, Cliff, Tyler Turden, Rick H, and Swinggcatt.

    The following is a list of the guys who are invited to cliffs 2006 convention of pick up artists, seducers and ladies men. Cliff is the most respected man in the underground international seduction community so any one invited should be a world class pick up artist.

    Confirmed: New For 2006
    Clint Arthur (www.newsensualpower.com/)
    Badboy (www.badboylifestyle.com)
    Bart Baggett (www.myhandwriting.com)
    Brian
    Carlos Xuma (www.datingdynamics.com)
    Chet (www.chetsdatingsystem.com)
    Dolly D (http://cocksanddolls.blogspot.com)
    Elvis Preston King ( http://www.msnusers.com/BachelorDreamTours.com and http://www.bachelortours.blogspot.com Adam Gilad (www.net2bed.com)
    Payton Kane (www.seduceandconquer.com)
    Michael (www.thedatingwizard.com)
    Nick (www.playboyskool.com)
    Dr. Dennis W. Neder (www.beingaman.com)
    Nige (www.nige54.com)
    Robert Ruffo
    stRiPPed
    Rion Williams (www.modelmagnet.com)
    David Wygant (www.dwdating.com, http://www.davidwygant.com)
    Returning:
    Dr Alex Benzer (www.thetaoofdating.com)
    Brent (www.absolutepowerdating.com) WTS
    Steve Celeste (Toecutter)(www.smoothinteractions.com) WTS
    David Shade (http://www.masterful-lover.com/) WTS
    Doc (www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca)
    DJ
    Steve Piccus (www.sensualawakening.com)
    Dave M. (www.insiderinternetdating.com)
    Lance Mason (www.PickUp101.com) WTS
    Steve Piccus (www.sensualawakening.com)
    Cameron Teone (The One) (www.buildattraction.com)
    Sin (www.mysterymethod.com) WTS
    Stephane (www.ideagasms.com) WTS
    Will (www.youaresoinmyway.com) WTS
    Zan (www.enlightenedseduction.com) WTS

    Tenatively confirmed:
    Blake Richards (IN10SE) http://www.social-mastery.com
    Style (Author of “The Game”)
    Michael Emery (Bishop) (www.new-alpha.com)

    Unlike the boys of the past, (except for Erick Weber’s book back then) there is now a wealth of information and help available for the wussie guy who can’t get laid.

  5. PT Barnum says:

    375 suckers are born every minute!

  6. snee mcphee says:

    Actually, I would bet that the average member of this community hasn’t spent a cent on a PUA training product.

  7. So_Much_Hate says:

    Yes, this post is using a crappy alias, my first, there’s just too much vitriol in these comments. I am just wondering why so many people are so hateful about this release?

    Is it so abhorrent that at a certain stage of your life, $4000 isn’t a big deal? It’s enough to make you think twice about clicking, I can confirm that, but it’s not enough to lose sleep over.

    Has anyone considered that perhaps by being unwilling to risk any capital, emotional or physical, in your quest to become a better person, you’re really just finding new excuses to be mediocre?

    Guppy.

    ps – to those that genuinely felt the price was just a bit too high — I totally feel your pain — it was steep, and it hurt. It had better be the tits to justify the price. But for every person that was a couple G shy, there’s going to be another 50 young people that simply don’t understand how the world works. To them, I say, get your own house in order, then start being a retard on these boards — at least then we’ll know your parents weren’t at fault.

  8. Ian says:

    I think $3800 is an abusive price. It will probably have some new ideas, of course, but a super powerful program that will revolutionize seduction?…I doubt it.

    The only reason he is pulling that off is because of the book..guys new to seduction soon feel overflowed with so many gurus and perspectives.
    After The Game, they are more familiar with Style..he is this guy they can identify with…this guy they can truly aspire to be

    there are great gurus out there, but in the book Style comes off as not only great, but as a stable, mature, sincere human being

    the newbies liked the book, liked Style, are eager to learn, and he will teach..
    they would happily pay a lot for it, as they did

    its his right to make money with seduction..heck, make lots of money with it
    but even if I were a millionaire I wouldn’t have bought this AM shit..this price just screams greediness to me

    ground-breaking, super exclusive, top secret, dangerous in the wrong hands…(he will even keep some copies in a safe deposit vault) gimme a break..lol

  9. the mole says:

    Hey man bottom line is they just became millionaires beats working a real job.

  10. Mark says:

    Hey guys, what is style talking about now – is he releasing another book???

    ——————————————-

    Okay Mark,

    I want to thank you all for your support and the emails over the
    last week. Congratulations to the lucky 375 who were able to snatch
    a copy of the Annihilation Method. I’m really looking forward to
    meeting you all and seeing how your lives have changed!

    For those of you who didn’t get a copy for whatever reason, stay
    tuned for an announcement below.

    But most importantly, the REAL reason I’m writing is to tell you
    something: It’s been a crazy week, with lots of emails from me.
    Those of you on this list to learn to succeed with women were happy
    to receive the breaking news as this all unfolded; others, here for
    literary reasons, weren’t so much. So here’s something that may
    surprise you…

    When you first signed up for this list, I told you that I might for
    time-to-time recruit people for book-length experiments.

    Well, guess what?

    The past seven days have been one of those experiments.

    No joke. When the book comes out, you’ll know from the FIRST
    sentence what all this has been about.

    And whatever money remains from this (after expenses, percentages,
    fees, manufacturing costs, shipping, production, technical snafus, and
    the cost of holding certain surprise events for the Final 375) at the
    end
    of the year, if any, will be donated to AMFAR, which funds HIV research,
    and several local women’s shelters.

    I’d like to thank you again, but the words “thank you” can never
    cut it. They never did for me. So early next week, I’ll be
    announcing a free consolation prize for all the guys who weren’t
    able to get their hands on the Annihilation Method for whatever
    reason.

    The secret method, exclusive knowledge, live apprenticeship,
    inner-game changework, and powerful opening and end-game
    techniques will remain with the Final 375, but I think you’ll be
    happy with your booby prize.

    You’ve all been amazing!

    Till Then,
    Neil

    P.S. If you ordered The Annihilation Method and did not receive an
    email welcoming you to the group, please contact
    annihilationsupport@gmail.com.

    P.P.S. If you ARE one of the Final 375, please note that orders
    will be shipped on Tuesday. Resist the urge to chase down the UPS
    man and hug him after you see what’s in your box.

    ——————————————-

  11. Fossil says:

    I’m thinking… maybe it was just a trick Neil pulled on us to find a bunch of people so desperate that they were willing to pay $3799 to get laid. That would be an interesting group to teach his tricks, and would also explain the book he’s talking about.

    Maybe -wishful thinking here- the people that ordered the Annihilation Method never even have to pay that ridiculous amount of money…

  12. Formhandle says:

    I think it would be worthwhile as an objective third party for me to interview all the guys who did buy this (all privacy will be maintained).

    Depending on how much interest I get I’ll post the interview on FS:
    http://www.fastseduction.com/

    I’m posting the same offer at mASF. I’m curious about this…

  13. Fossil says:

    I don’t know… I’ve read The Game and he didn’t strike me as the type of guy that would be comfortable making a few thousand enemies in a single day. Writing a book on the community is one thing, selling out on it in such an over-the-top way is something completely different. Come on, the guy was an AFC not too long ago! Even for that kind of money, I think the leap’s just too big…

  14. phpeters87 says:

    Just how did Style create and field test this method if he was in a relationship this past year or so, not to mention all the time he was on the talk show circuit, book signings, etc…?

  15. Ray Gordon says:

    “I think it would be worthwhile as an objective third party for me to interview all the guys who did buy this (all privacy will be maintained).”

    Objective? Mystery is one of his sponsors, and he’s in with Style. He also sells “The Game” through his website and would have to find another line of work or business if it weren’t for his sponsors.

  16. deadpua says:

    ashamed to call myself a “PUA”. even if I was one, which I am not!

    Business. Industry. Finance. Legality and Collections. Marketing. Manufacturing. Distribution. Sales Revenue and Accounting. Appealing to Needs and Wants, Hopes and Longings of Rich Trust fund boys, people with Credit Limits, and those who can borrow and/or have saved!

    I think Style has a good resume. So they don’t work cheap. But the good is the Enemy of the great. I personally don’t care so much for that celebrity anyways. Rolling Stone is a Useless Periodical to me- just like meat and dairy are useless and toxic foods!

    I took workshops in Europe! When I studied over the seas. I think I made an impression on the teachers. And they made something of an impression on me. But that wasn’t the core of it. It was a loss of money, but live and learn! Learn and live!

    The core of it was …. as always with me…

    ADVENTURE!

    So come irishmen, both young and old, with adventure in your soul. There are better ways, to spend your days, than working down a hole!

    Like somebody said- there are 375 sucklers and sucklings born every minute!

    I am sick in my stomach! Like Eminem (who also kind of has mental problems) I want to puke!

    I am disgusted with bad breath and repulsiveness. This is a thing that puts you “back in the matrix” to use Natural Method Terminology.

    Hahahaha. What a blog? I first learned about blogs a year ago. Blogs on the internet!

  17. thundercats accountant says:

    I take back everything i said about thundercats marketing. He just made style over a million dollars. respect. just goes to show that nobody ever went broke UNDERestimating peoples intelligence

  18. TedSez says:

    Based on the last e-mail, it sounds as if he used this whole thing as a pretext to recruit guinea pigs for a new book on teaching pickup techniques.

    The good part is that the book might be helpful to the rest of us…. The bad part is that once it comes out, most of the techniques will become essentially useless.

    And the guinea pigs will have paid for the privilege of helping him write the book.

  19. TedSez says:

    P.S. I made up my e-mail address, just like most of the people on this board — but I realize now that it might be someone’s actual address. So please don’t try to write to me there.

  20. Victor O'Connell says:

    It’s pretty obvious why Style chose to use this marketing method to sell his program. He KNOWS that the Annihilation Method is going to be put up on every share site within a week from its release. He just guaranteed a million dollars in his pocket using some simple guerilla internet marketing strategies BEFORE it could be pirated. Pretty smart guy IMO.

  21. Squelch says:

    First off: Tedsez, nobody cares to write you, haha.

    No but on a serious note, from the beginning this whole “Annihilation” method business has been a farce and just plain silly.

    It’s not wrong to make some money if you’re offering a good product. But Neil Strauss comes across as a sleazy scammer in this pathetic and inanely idiotic marketing campaign. I’ve lost all respect for this little bald man.

    Finally, to all people talking about how they made “a million bucks” etc, stop talking out of your ass. While the rest are saying so because they are part of Neil Strauss’ marketing team and are trying to do some damage control. I bet they haven’t sold 20 copies. $3800 for Style’s “Annihilation method”? bah!

    As I said, this whole thing has been so plain silly and so transparent and so inanely dishonest from the very beginning, so why would they start to be truthful and straight now?

    I say, anyone who trusts Neil Strauss, or is willing to pay for any of his products from now on must have some serious mental deficiency.

  22. niggas stink pew! says:

    The problem with style is that he’s got his own skinny ass’s best interest at heart, not the communitys. He’ll do/say anything to get famous and make a buck mooching off AFCs.

    Style, do yo tang nigga! Make yo chedar!

    Btw… anyone wanting to hurt the sales of any money grubbing sellout like style, remember that all attention is good for his sale, whether good or bad. So the best thing to do is then to bring attention to something else that has nothing to do with him, or highjack the thread.

    Thank you have a nice day.

  23. gargamel says:

    I saw Neill Strauss in a two hour long interview a couple of weeks ago in Stockholm, Sweden. He talked about loads of things, and I must say that after I saw him, I understand how he can be a magnet to women. He was very smart, funny, charming and so on for the full two hours and had the audience in his hands. I must say I was impressed by this guy…

    Anyway… on a question about his new book, he kind of slipped his tongue, and said it involved another thing he had never been good at: making money.

    He was working on this “project”, the same way as he had with the pick-up thing.
    This was “super-secret”, and he quickly changed subject, because he said his book company had forbid him to talk about it (something like that).

    Another book his working on for the moment is a pick-up guide for women(he even asked some girls in the audience some questions about that).
    “How to make money like a pornstar” is (to my knowledge) a graphic novel.

    He gave a very likeable and honest impression about wanting to help guys who struggle with women, I must admit I was impressed. He was like a force of nature.
    But all the crappy emails for the last week has been the opposite of what he said in Stockholm.
    All the emails for the last week has been in a pathetically low quality. I’m almost embarressed to read them.
    Srange is what it is… and just annoying.

  24. Ray Gordon says:

    Who is to blame for all of this, Neil or YOU?

    YOU guys are the ones who demand the “social proof” of a big publishing company, or weblogs (never mind that the webmasters are getting a cut of the action), or an “everyone” comprised of a bunch of anonymous and unverifiable internet personas.

    If that’s not enough, you ALSO demand that any guru have this pimped-up lifestyle that is going to attract women even without game, and then use that lifestyle to further justify your purchase of his methods and products.

    If someone ISN’T plugged in to this, if they haven’t paid the webmasters for publicity, if they haven’t assembled an army of affiliates to talk them up, and if they don’t charge an arm and a leg, you AFC idiots get like HBs who choose the wrong men in that you make your decisions emotionally and with the same narcissistic attitude that begs someone to exploit you in this fashion.

    In “Why Hotties Choose Losers” I wrote about “hottie narcissism,” or a hottie’s belief that her looks make her a superior judge of men. In the commercial pickup game, we have “customer narcissim,” at times with customers who even come right out and say “Market to me this way and I will buy your stuff,” and the quality of the product is barely an afterthought.

    You can no more blame Neil for what he did to get into your wallets than you can blame the “jerk” boyfriend of an HB for doing what it takes to get into her pants.

    I created a pricing model that eliminates all of the things I hear people complaining about: BUY THE AUTHOR. For one price, a customer of mine gets everything I ever have written on seduction, and everything I will write or otherwise produce that doesn’t require personalized instruction, including any multimedia. This is a model that any guru could use, and would truly reflect a “no man left behind” mentality.

    Too bad the public wants to be “seduced” by the gurus rather than to get the products or information it needs at reasonable prices.

  25. Jinbo says:

    Talk about poor marketing, Ray…jumping in this place to hawk your products.

    It’s like and a lawyer chasing an ambulance.

  26. Ray Gordon says:

    “Talk about poor marketing, Ray…jumping in this place to hawk your products. It’s like and a lawyer chasing an ambulance.”

    Love the Armchair Marketing 101 lessons I get from people like this. Bless him!

    Bet if I started a 50 percent affiliate program tomorrow a lot would change.

  27. Jinbo says:

    “customer narcissim,” Ray?

    Marketing 101 lesson #1 from the armchair of Jinbo…

    The customer is always right, remember?

    If it’s too much money, not enough information, or whatever, they’re right. They’re always right. It’s their money to spend however they choose. It’s your job to convince them to spend their money for your product, not the other way around.

    No one likes to buy stuff from people who bash their competition.

    “a hottie’s belief that her looks make her a superior judge of men”

    BTW is that yours or did you steal that statement from Carlos Xuma?

  28. Ray Gordon says:

    >>>”customer narcissim,” Ray?

    “Marketing 101 lesson #1 from the armchair of Jinbo…The customer is always right, remember?”

    Not according to current theory. Articles about companies that no longer court difficult consumers have been published in the last few years, in fact. On the internet, the audience is also not generally one of customers, but one of pirates.

    “If it’s too much money, not enough information, or whatever, they’re right. They’re always right. It’s their money to spend however they choose.”

    The equivalent of a hottie saying “I’m hot and I’ll fuck any guy I want!” Then she wonders why she gets played. She’s “always right” while being SOLD, but once she puts out, that’s another story.

    “It’s your job to convince them to spend their money for your product, not the other way around.”

    I can do that many ways that have nothing to do with this blog. Things like search engine advertising and affiliate programs determine who makes money online.

    “No one likes to buy stuff from people who bash their competition.”

    Unless I’m the one they are bashing, of course. Give me a fucking break.

    >>”a hottie’s belief that her looks make her a superior judge of men”>>>

    “BTW is that yours or did you steal that statement from Carlos Xuma?”

    I don’t know his copyright dates, and never read his material (so I couldn’t have stolen it), but my stuff dates back to 1998-2004 for what that’s worth.

    Several years ago, I registered copyrights to all my work because I felt that one day it would be useful to see who wrote what, and when. The term “pivot” in seduction was never used, for example, before I published it in “29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy” in March 1999. That book is actually free now.

    As for why anyone should buy my stuff, not only do I teach men how to get laid, but how to do it with women who aren’t sluts, golddiggers, or other trash generally associated with the nightlife, and who have sexual talents way beyond that of even the typical hottie. If a guy thinks he can do better on his own, let him.

  29. RayGordonSuck says:

    Bet if I started a 50 percent affiliate program tomorrow a lot would change.

    Posted by: Ray Gordon | May 28, 2006 8:19:09 PM

    –> NO WAY. You will ALWAYS suck Ray. Get it into your head: nobody likes you, nobody wants stuff from you even for free, nobody can even learn something from you because you have nothing of value to say, get lost!!!

  30. Ray Gordon says:

    If any of you have really been banned (I wouldn’t know), I do have a message board set up to discuss the Annhilation Method on my site.

    I also have a “banned in cyberspace forum” for people who are banned from anywhere and want to post their stuff to my boards just to make sure it stands up.

    As long as it’s not criminal, and absent a “libel takedown notice” (where I give the other side a chance to respond), I don’t take sides on this issue.

    My board can be found at http://www.cybersheet.com/6/ubb.x

    (I post the link only in the interest of supporting free speech).

  31. Do Ross, Mystery, and Hypnotica get a cut? says:

    They appear in the method’s CD, so do they get a cut, or did they do it for “promotional consideration?”

  32. Poor Poor Ray says:

    Look at that:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060884053/

    Maybe he’s even writing a book about the whole thing…

    Neil should have never been let into the community…its plain to see now that all he cares about is money, he’ll sale you guys down the river in a second.
    Mystery, I hope you are pleased with yourself, while this has helped you in the short run, it was damage you in the end.

  33. Poor Poor Ray says:

    (I post the link only in the interest of supporting free speech).

    Come on Ray, you are only for free speech when you aren’t the object of the arguement.
    Don’t insult thses guys anymore than they have been in the last week.

    If you would stop trying to silence people when they are negative about you, and offer something that people find workable you could make some money.

    Offer a method based on the current core ideas instead of trying to defeat them and you’ll have something.

    You are like this, everyone wants an ipod, but you bash them and say that “x” product is better…if everyone wants an ipod, it makes more sense to follow that line.

  34. frisbee says:

    Ray said:

    “I created a pricing model that eliminates all of the things I hear people complaining about: BUY THE AUTHOR. For one price, a customer of mine gets everything I ever have written on seduction, and everything I will write or otherwise produce that doesn’t require personalized instruction, including any multimedia.

    Yeah Ray, your pricing model is $10,000 for your crap that you up to present cannot even give away.

  35. Ray Gordon says:

    >>>(I post the link only in the interest of supporting free speech).>>>

    “Come on Ray, you are only for free speech when you aren’t the object of the arguement.
    Don’t insult thses guys anymore than they have been in the last week.”

    Since this appears to be a sincere attempt to say something, however primitive, I’ll respond. I do in fact support free speech on fora, and I started “banned in cyberspace” for something just like this. I have a general e-publishing company that is much bigger than seduction information. This was actually a sideline I started in 1998 because when I began posting in 1996 I was flooded for advice and saw a market emerging.

    “If you would stop trying to silence people when they are negative about you, and offer something that people find workable you could make some money.”

    Welcome to Armchair Marketing 101, folks.

    Given how many people copied my business model (e-books on seduction) *after* I released mine, I might be ahead of the curve, and you may be misjudging the finish line.

    “Offer a method based on the current core ideas instead of trying to defeat them and you’ll have something.”

    Like I said with the stripper challenge, let’s ask the women what they think. See, now women know that this slutty behavior of theirs is no longer the “fun secret” between her and her jerk boyfriend. Let’s see how many AFC males pay for that “fun” if she admits to wanting the players.

    Defeating “common knowledge” is what these gurus USED to do. AFCs were the ones who said that their stuff couldn’t work. Now the PUA is the new AFC because his lunch is being stolen by “haters.” See, women HATE losing games (they love games, just not losing them). They can’t admit to loving the game so they pretend to hate the game rather than the loss.

    “You are like this, everyone wants an ipod, but you bash them and say that “x” product is better…if everyone wants an ipod, it makes more sense to follow that line.”

    If my goal is to put marketing over releasing the truth, perhaps, or if my goal is to compete for a tiny audience compared to the HUGE one that will be out here five years from now. One that won’t require hard selling to reach.

    It’s amazing how these “customers” say on the one hand that they are clueless about women, on the other they think they can evaluate advice products based on this ignorance (obviously they can’t any more than you or I could evaluate a surgeon), on yet another hand they criticize my marketing because they believe it won’t work, and THEN when someone like Style nets $1.4 million in a day (according to him), they complain that he did it with “shady marketing.”

    This guy is like an HB saying she wants a good man but judging them based on the sales pitch.

  36. Poor Poor Ray says:

    Come on Ray, you are only for free speech when you aren’t the object of the arguement.
    Don’t insult thses guys anymore than they have been in the last week.”

    Since this appears to be a sincere attempt to say something, however primitive, I’ll respond. I do in fact support free speech on fora, and I started “banned in cyberspace” for something just like this. I have a general e-publishing company that is much bigger than seduction information. This was actually a sideline I started in 1998 because when I began posting in 1996 I was flooded for advice and saw a market emerging.

    Just like you to spit on an olive branch.
    You only support free speech when it suits you, just looking at the past posts of yours on this board supports my argument.

    “If you would stop trying to silence people when they are negative about you, and offer something that people find workable you could make some money.”

    Welcome to Armchair Marketing 101, folks.

    Given how many people copied my business model (e-books on seduction) *after* I released mine, I might be ahead of the curve, and you may be misjudging the finish line.

    Ray, e-books have been around since the birth of the internet, are you saying it was all your idea?
    Your “business model” hasn’t changed in 8 years, and you still suffer from it.

  37. Jinbo says:

    Geez Ray…

    How do you expect to sell your products when you hate and bash the customer?

    How can you help the AFC if you think he’s a dumbass inside your gut?

    Why would anyone want to give you money and buy something from you when you profess your hate? Is this tough love or something?

    Now I’ll grant you from your posts you are very intelligent and a deep thinker. I do respect that. And yes you have a grasp on bigger things outside the usual realm of thinking…but you are so caustic and irritating. Just because you know something does not make you a good teacher.

    Again why would anyone buy from someone who takes the time to show people what morons they are?

    And if you say you’re not hawking to this crowd why is your name a link to your site?

    Public service?

  38. Jinbo says:

    Well put Mr. Asshole

    However you can find his “Fox hunting, the art of dating and seduction” on emule. Maybe that one of the freebies he offers. I don’t know.

    FYI this is the last paragraph of that opus…

    “The Last Word
    Is there an ultimate Foxhunting strategy? After reviewing this book prior to publication, here’s mine: go online as a tall, handsome, wealthy gay man. Foxes will think you are the perfect man, one they cannot have, and will become obsessed with winning you over. You can then let them “convert” you without having to look or act gay in your daily life. Men who have used this masquerading posture relay tales of incredibly successful results. Who am I to argue?”

    Great stuff! I can just feel the love.

  39. frisbee says:

    Now I’ll grant you from your posts you are very intelligent and a deep thinker. I do respect that. And yes you have a grasp on bigger things outside the usual realm of thinking…but you are so caustic and irritating. Just because you know something does not make you a good teacher.

    a) ray is not a deep thinker – he just spouts any crap to support is current position – which can change from day to day.

    b) Ray has not got any grasp on anything – he’s a self declared unmedicated bipolar. He posted the on the day of 9/11 how all the people who died in the WTc deserved everything they got simply because he once was turned down for employment there.

    c) he knows fuck all about seduction. He has never offered any proof of being able to talk to a women. There is video of him having a drink thrown in his face by a woman who found him repulsive.

    Ever read Ray’s ‘Prawn Theory’?

  40. Neil's Real Estate Agent says:

    I might be the first guy from Vienna, Europe having successfully ordered one set. The course number 2 is simply the 4 monthly payments option. This is what I got.

    For one thing, Style sure has BIG BALLS. Making 1.4 Million Dollars like this has never been seen before.

    And hey, my Rolex cost more than that course. So what’s the whining about? :->

    Let me put it this way mr. Rolex…

    If you’re already making that kind of money and still can’t get any tail, then something is seriously wrong with you. You really need to sit down and think about your life.

    Part of the reason why a percentage of guys that attend these expensive workshops are successful is because these guy already have a huge advantage than that of the average Joe. Which is $$$.

    I bet if you get some lonley guy that makes minimum wage and comes from a poor family and put him in a workshop, they odds would be against him.

  41. John says:

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