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More On The Underscore Banning

March 21, 2006 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

So for those of you who care about the fact I got kicked and banned from the Underscore Lounge, I’ve learned a little bit more about the reason behind the banning.

I got this email from jlaix…

jlaix writes:

You claim that you "like" me, yet post some fucked up review about me?
Suure.

BTW Nick and Tyler had absolutely nothing to do with this. I thought you were cool once, but I am no longer your friend. Your blog sucks.

-jeff

So here’s apparently what happened…

The Lounge does an internal audit, and I get vouched for by 4 people, 2 more than what’s required.  But then, Jlaix comes out and leads a charge to have me kicked.

I don’t visit the site too often, so I don’t know about this and don’t defend myself.  Eventually, Jlaix gets enough people on his side to kick me out.

It looks like jlaix did this because I posted an RSD workshop review on my site that didn’t feature him in a very favorable light.  You can check this post out here.

So instead of taking his anger and frustration out on the poor guy who actually wrote the review, Jlaix targets me for retribution in some rather juvenile way.

I never had a beef with Jlaix, always liked the guy.  But when it comes down to it, instead of emailing me or calling me up personally and saying "Dude, why would you post a review like that?" and actually bother confronting me directly, he decides to take the passive-aggressive approach and try to get all his friends to turn against me.

I guess this shouldn’t be a surprise, since it’s the same tactic Tyler uses all the time (just read The Game to see what I’m talking about).

It’s unfortuneate that Jlaix couldn’t be a man and take up his beef with me, he had to go behind my back and get me kicked out of a tight-knit community I was a part of for 3 years because I featured a bad review of him on my site.

So sad.

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Comments

542 Responses to “More On The Underscore Banning”
  1. Christian Carter says:

    I really wrote “Catch Him and Keep Him” for Ross Jeffries.

    Tyrone broke up with him and he was desperate for my help!

    Poor old jew.

  2. David DeAngelo says:

    Make no mistake, my dick IS the smallest… why do you think my method is called “Cock-ee and funny”?

  3. nlpguru168 says:

    “THE FALL OF ROME”
    This is an honest analysis of the seduction community from an avid lurker who has “been there and done that” before the internet community even started. I feel ashamed of the insanity and greedy war between the “power elite.”
    The trend in this community has gone from true field research by analyzing “what works” to what makes the most money in the quickest amount of time.
    The result is a weakened community, people being sued left and right, and cookie- cutter televsion shows and mass media programs that “expose all” to anyone who watches. Just who cares about magic once you’ve seen the tricks exposed?
    First, my opinion is that it started with so-called rebellion against Ross Jeffries, and now the entire “dog eat dog world” of the PUA elite is collapsing into a group of people who can’t even get along unless they get ahead financially. That’s survival of the fittest for you (united we stand, divided we fall.)
    Their monopoly on workshops and seduction information is doomed.
    All of this perceived bad blood in community has meant that now anyone can be a cookie-cutter guru, write a seduction book, create a seminar, or unfortunately buy pirated seduction DVDs, audio programs, and ebboks on ebay for the lowest bidder. Not to mention illegally downloading them on Kazaa.
    The “power elite” should concentrate FIRST on preventing the sale of their pirated programs (just like the music industry has) and not arguing over how much money they’ve lost because of who stole who’s “secret method” first.
    Next, the “power elite” should not act surprised when their students “betray them” to become teachers themselves.
    Even if it’s on a subconcious level, many of them feel a need to earn their money back and earn enough money so they can lead such wild lifestyle too. It’s an example of the “tragedy of the commons.” So many in the community are mad at all the bickering and ever increasing price of seminars and ask “If you can make so much easy money from your seminars, so can we!”
    Many in the community also ask “Who says that Style and Mystery (insert your favorite guru’s name here) are the only ones who have earned “tenure” in teaching the seduction community?
    I see so many people turning to other alternatives, cheaper methods, and soon to be produced television programs. This is especially true of new people in the community.
    These new students don’t care about “earning respect” or anything other than using the information at the cheapest price. That’s why there exists so much competition now. Seduction is soon going to be only part of every person’s lifestyle and NOT a profitable career for a few in the “power elite”.
    So there’s my analysis of the present and future trend in the community. There will be many more cheap and free resources hurting the pocketbooks of the power elite and they may have to: 1.)Stop Ebay and Kazaa pirating of their hard work! (Especially Mystery Method DVDs and David Deangelo’s programs) 2.)Keep adding new benefits and updated services to their programs. 3.) Work together and conduct new field research or weaken everybody in the process. If not then find a more traditional day job, and cancel any “cult ambitions.”
    Sincerely, NLPguru168.

  4. Elvis Preston King says:

    If you guys want to get GAME learn from the man with experience. When I started picking up girls there was no seduction community. Eric Weber had NOT even written “How to pick up girls” yet. I leaned my skills from a door to door salesman. If you haven’t figured it out yet, closing girls is just like closing a sale.

    By the way, I was very excited to finally meet Mystery on the DVDS cliff from Cliffs List gave me. All the guys were interesting and had something to bring to the table. But Mystery out classed them all. He knows some pretty good stuff and might be able to give me a good go for my money in a club. I would blow him away in the street.

    I would recomend his courses and boot camp from what I saw on Cliffs 2005 pick up artist convention.. Truthfully If I were a young guy I would study Mystery Method and I would study the Grand Master Pickup Artist’s, Elvis Method. NO, I would not accept any other instructor, if Mystery offers a clone I would NOT attend. I would Not accept a boot camp offered by Alberto Prince either. He is an Elvis clone. I would want the real McCoy. Elvis or Mystery. I would compare it to Martial Arts where you study under the old Grand Master Elvis and you learn the NEW style that Mystery has developed. The best of both worlds. The old and the new. Up to now I have seen no one who can compare to us. Cliff spelled it out that Elvis Preston King is the world’s greatest pickup artist. If you can’t believe him who can you believe. I ask him privately out side of me who he thinks is the best and he said “MYSTERY” He spent time at Project Hollywood and he spent time at The King’s Bachelor Pad.

    Mystery talked about Freeze outs. I have been using freeze outs for years. let me spell it out boys. Freeze outs drop panties. I had to use freeze outs two times in a row (TWO DIFFERENT GIRLS! A couple days ago. I was thinking about Mystery when I did it. The girl wouldn’t even let me touch her let alone kiss or make love to her. The the King froze her out hard. I left the room. She came out and my wingman reminded her that that’s Elvis in there, I mean ELVIS!!!

    A few minutes later she was all over me. If you haven’t studied freeze outs AND IF you aren’t using freeze outs you are not a pua yet.

    Just how good is Elvis Preston King, I never have sex with the same girl two days in a row and if you are looking for just one girlfriend there are plenty of Gurus who can help you. If you want to live a lifestyle that dwarfs Hef’s contact the King. All you have to do is search Google for the King or Mystery, we pop right up.

    Also Mystery is a computer Geek I barely know how to turn mine on. You can definitely get to where you are going by taking the best and creating your own style from the BEST of both worlds. I don’t say that lightly, the world is a very big place. Forget the others. There are no others worth your time, if you are a serious student of the arts contact Mystery. Contact Elvis.

  5. Tyrone says:

    FYI: Ross and I are still Together, you stupid Turds!

    And Elvis, stop hittin’ on me! You’s gots now chance not!

    You’s to ugly motherfucker and I’m not broke!

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    Peace out

  6. FU nlpguru says:

    Hey NLPGURU,

    FUCK YOU MAN.

    I have my server here, running 24/7.
    Guess what i’m sharing?
    - Mystery method
    - All DYD cd’s
    - All Speed seduction videos
    - Cliff’s list convention full dvd set
    - Over 20 e-books

    Guys, just get on emule and u can get it all for free from me.

    Cheers!

  7. Jackass says:

    What ebooks you got, FU nlpguru?

  8. The Darkchild says:

    Hey, Elvis Preston FUCK.

    You are one annoying cocksucker, what’s your tactic bitch? Come in here and try to do pathetic marketing whilst blowing your own horn?

    You need to back the fuck up man. Go penetrate one of those many many girls you got. And stop annoying the shit out of people you old fag.

    I could probably drop by a random house for old people, and find a 70 year old with Alzheimer’s who’s got more game then you.

    And just in case your playing out a part to come across funny, let me wake you up, YOUR NOT FUCKING FUNNY.

    Go fetch a whore at the nearest stripclub you motherfucker.

  9. game on bros says:

    werd^

    game on bros

  10. Geese Howard says:

    Elvis,

    Bragging about being the best when only 1 person of note has vouched for you is why these people are reacting the way they are towards you.

    Do something to prove yourself, A.
    B. You need to stop bragging about it. It’s try hard and people aren’t likely to be impressed at all.

    I’ll give you props for posting here instead of hiding away with a bunch of elitests who are more concerned with their status then they are with actually getting laid. You don’t see your buddy Mystery in their group – Anymore. He was the guy who started the idea of the elite club and I think these guys are sort of a shadow of clingons who are trying to hold on to what Mystery created for them.

    But You may or you may not have actual game. If you do, stop being a pompous ass about how you tell people and post some FRs somewhere. The bragging thing obviously isn’t working for your benefit; At least not here where you seem to be so interested in getting people’s approval.

    Shit take a mini-audio recorder with you on your sarge and record the interaction, take it home and have Alberto V05 type it up for you. Then if you can’t explain how or what you do, you can put the actual interaction on tape and let other people figure it out.

    Stop marketing. I know you need some cash, but you need to find another scheme. This community is getting Ruined because of marketing, greedy people. Style wanted some $$ to write a book and now all the dorks in the world have come out of the woodwork to try and be PUAs.

    I mean a guy names “Shark” that sounds like that Checkov guy from Star-Trek has a CD set for crying out loud.

    The more marketing the more watered down the information is becoming.

    These cats come here and talk about how they read the game and talk about how great a book on being a PUA it is. LAME>>>

    So stop the Elvis Preston King Announcements like we’re all in a fricken school and you’re advertisement comes up over the PA every few days and act like a real person. Quit bragging and start talking about your actual results and how you get them. (Not, “I had thee girls over today and I fucked them all. Then the cleaning lady came over and made the mistake of cleaning the kings toilet. Soon she was licking the Kings rim!” You sound like the kid from highschool who was dating the super model that just so happens to live up north.) Until you do people will just disrespect you as a tryhard wannabe.

    If you got some real info to teach, then teach my man. I don’t care who I learn from as long as they’re legit. I’m gonna be the best motherfucker out there in the field, and I already got me some great wings. I don’t learn seduction to mimic some other guy, I learn it to come up with my own gig that fits my personality. The only way to do that is use examples from guys who are actually out there doing this for real. Again, though, theres too many AFCs in this community now claiming status and ability. I only want to learn from the real deal, not someone in the habit of underscoreing their game.

  11. NEWS says:

    NEWS

    NEWS

    NEWS

    NEWS

    NEWS

    Elvis Preston Lame couldn’t even beat Ross Jeffries in a “pickup contest” let alone Mystery.

    Notice he took down the
    http://groups.msn.com/cures
    page?

    WHAT HAPPENED “ELVIS” ???

    YOU STOPPED CLAIMING TO HAVE CURES FOR CANCER ALL OF A SUDDEN?
    DON’T WORRY… WE REMEMBER IT, CLIFF MIGHT BE A DUMBARSE AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR BULLSHIT CLAIMS TO CURE CANCER BUT EVERYONE ELSE REMEMBERS.

    CAN’T WAIT FOR CLIFF’S LIST 2006 WHERE YOU’RE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO SHOW UP.

    WHERE NOT ONLY YOU, BUT CLIFF AS WELL, WILL REALISE YOU’RE ALL TALK. YOU CAN’T EVEN TALK THE TALK SO LETS SEE YOU TRY TO WALK THE WALK SO WE CAN LAUGH OUR ASSES OFF.

    …AND THAT’S THE…

    NEWS

  12. The Darkchild says:

    Well that’s for goddamn sure.

    You’re beГЇng one pompous anal itch. Get your act together. What do you want these people to do, admire/ pay you like the dorks around the world do Style?

    Pretty fucking please…

    Get a 9 to 5 bitch.

    I had told you before to at least post up some sort of report.

    I speak for these people (and only them, LOL) when I say, been there, done that.

    I’m gonna tell it to ya like a sista would:

    Boy you betta reckognize…

  13. Anus says:

    The best pick up line ever…

    What comes out of my anus?
    Answer: RSD

  14. That's Very Powerful says:

    Cliff’s List convention guest speaker list has been revealed:

    Adam Gilad (www.net2bed.com)
    Dr. Alex Benzer ( http://www.thetaoofdating.com)
    Badboy ( http://www.badboylifestyle.com)
    Bart Baggett ( http://www.myhandwriting.com)
    Brent ( http://www.absolutepowerdating.com)
    Brian
    Cameron Teone (The One) ( http://www.buildattraction.com)
    Carlos Xuma ( http://www.datingdynamics.com)
    Chet ( http://www.chetsdatingsystem.com)
    Clint Arthur ( http://www.newsensualpower.com)
    Dave M. ( http://www.insiderinternetdating.com)
    David Shade ( http://www.masterful-lover.com)
    Dr. Dennis W. Neder ( http://www.beingaman.com)
    DJ
    Doc ( http://www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca)
    Dolly D (www.cocksanddolls.blogspot.com)
    Lance Mason ( http://www.PickUp101.com)
    Michael ( http://www.thedatingwizard.com)
    Nick ( http://www.playboyskool.com)
    Nige (www.nige54.com)
    Payton Kane ( http://www.seduceandconquer.com)
    Robert Ruffo
    Sin ( http://www.mysterymethod.com)
    Stephane ( http://www.ideagasms.com)
    Steve Celeste (Toecutter) ( http://www.smoothinteractions.com)
    Steve Piccus ( http://www.sensualawakening.com)
    stRiPPed
    Rion Williams ( http://www.modelmagnet.com)
    David Wygant (www.dwdating.com , http://www.davidwygant.com)
    Will ( http://www.youaresoinmyway.com)
    Zan ( http://www.enlightenedseduction.com)

    Tenatively confirmed:
    Blake Richards (IN10SE) http://www.social-mastery.com
    Style (Author of “The Game”)
    Michael Emery (Bishop) ( http://www.new-alpha.com)

    No RSD instructors

    Things that make you go hmmmmmm……..

  15. That's Very Powerful says:

    Cliff’s List convention guest speaker list has been revealed:

    Adam Gilad (www.net2bed.com)
    Dr. Alex Benzer ( http://www.thetaoofdating.com)
    Badboy ( http://www.badboylifestyle.com)
    Bart Baggett ( http://www.myhandwriting.com)
    Brent ( http://www.absolutepowerdating.com)
    Brian
    Cameron Teone (The One) ( http://www.buildattraction.com)
    Carlos Xuma ( http://www.datingdynamics.com)
    Chet ( http://www.chetsdatingsystem.com)
    Clint Arthur ( http://www.newsensualpower.com)
    Dave M. ( http://www.insiderinternetdating.com)
    David Shade ( http://www.masterful-lover.com)
    Dr. Dennis W. Neder ( http://www.beingaman.com)
    DJ
    Doc ( http://www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca)
    Dolly D (www.cocksanddolls.blogspot.com)
    Lance Mason ( http://www.PickUp101.com)
    Michael ( http://www.thedatingwizard.com)
    Nick ( http://www.playboyskool.com)
    Nige (www.nige54.com)
    Payton Kane ( http://www.seduceandconquer.com)
    Robert Ruffo
    Sin ( http://www.mysterymethod.com)
    Stephane ( http://www.ideagasms.com)
    Steve Celeste (Toecutter) ( http://www.smoothinteractions.com)
    Steve Piccus ( http://www.sensualawakening.com)
    stRiPPed
    Rion Williams ( http://www.modelmagnet.com)
    David Wygant (www.dwdating.com , http://www.davidwygant.com)
    Will ( http://www.youaresoinmyway.com)
    Zan ( http://www.enlightenedseduction.com)

    Tenatively confirmed:
    Blake Richards (IN10SE) http://www.social-mastery.com
    Style (Author of “The Game”)
    Michael Emery (Bishop) ( http://www.new-alpha.com)

    No RSD instructors

    Things that make you go hmmmmmm……..

  16. Phandral says:

    I agree wholeheartedly with Geese. As much as I find all the banter on this site amusing, none of this shit is getting us laid anymore efficiently. And I particularly agree with his comment about the handful of people are just emulating other, but not trying to develop their own game. These people are already coming from mainstream society that does whatever MTV tells them to do, and is their primary reason for not getting laid in the first place. At the end of the day, EVERY “GURU”, even Style, has mentioned that in order to become a good PUA is to live your OWN life and be yourself. David D says you are using these various techniques to become “your BEST Self”, so what works for Style works for Style, and what works for Mystery works for Mystery, and while some of their tactics my be congruent with who you are, you will either fail miserably or live life forever unsatisfied if you choose to become one of them as opposed to letting their various traits become you. David D may be a marketing whore, but his philosophy isn’t very far off the mark.

    If I knew more about HTML and databases, I’d love to collect the handful of people around here that are actually trying to make this a progressive community once again (Geese, The Truth, and Darkchild, to name a few) I’d invite them to our own website/blog/usenet group where philosophy and comraderie are welcome, and all the dissention and bullshit is left at the door. Something that mASF used to be all about.

    And you people wonder why the mainstream thinks we are a joke. Like I said before, you folks are hilarious, but if someone genuinely interested in the community came across this page, what the hell are they supposed to think?

  17. phandral's crack whore momma says:

    that we like random samurai?

  18. phandral's crack whore momma says:

    that we like random samurai?

  19. xray says:

    I fucked Mystery’s nubile little bitch whore neice. You know the one who he bought an ant farm for.

    mmmmm she was a bit smelly and I had to puut a paper bag over her head cos she looks like Mystery

    happy days

  20. The Darkchild says:

    To true Phandral. This blog is becoming more worhtless every minute.

    I’ve also noticed that a few people actually enjoy posting their knowledge and experiences on here. To help other people out, to share some knowledge/ stories or just for fun.

    The rest just try to annoy each other for kicks, or try to do some last minute marketing. I like a joke and all, but if that’s all it has to offer….. boring…

  21. Phandral Schmandral says:

    Some stupid piece of shit that calls himself Phandral wrote:

    “but if someone genuinely interested in the community came across this page, what the hell are they supposed to think?”

    Why should we give a shit about someone interested in the community?
    No really. Give me ONE good reason why i should care about another AFC wave hitting the community?

    Fuck those stupid bastards man. Makes me laugh just seeing them in the clubs. Clueless motherfuckers.

  22. The Baron says:

    Hey xray!

    Did u lube up her little asshole before u did her?
    She sounds really sweet man!

  23. Phandral says:

    I knew this was coming. You guys are too funny!

  24. Gunwitch says:

    “jlaix writes:

    You claim that you “like” me, yet post some fucked up review about me?
    Suure.”

    Is that the mentality? That if you are friends/like each other you are supposed to lie for each other?

  25. Harlequin says:

    Why should we give a shit about someone interested in the community?
    No really. Give me ONE good reason why i should care about another AFC wave hitting the community?

    I got 1

    Because setting a good example and teaching other noobs how to game will help dramatically improve your own game. (credit David D)

    Hindering someone else and trying to negatively influence someone elses life has a karmic effect on your own. What you cause for oters becomes something that you yourself become sort of stuck into. (Credit Ross Jeffries and Major Mark)

    Is 2 enough?

    -Geese

  26. J says:

    Results of the Ohio RSD Bootcamp

    As you guys know, I’m the newest RSD bootcamp instructor and just finished my first bootcamp with the help of papa. Our guest instructor was no other than the mighty Random Samurai.

    Bootcamp went really well. We were all suprised by Randoms skills. He approach a set of 8 guys and ran game and reach the hook point within a minutes. 3 minutes later, he isolated his target “Mike” and was making out with him. It was so amazing that papa peeing on himself again.

    Me being a good instructor, pushed studnets into set of guys and all the students hooked. Af the end, all of the students were making our with another guy.

    I think the hero of this bootcamp was Random Samurai. Throughout the 3 days, every guy he approached, he made out with. Random is so good at gaming guys. It’s amazing. He is not a KJ.

    I’m talking with papa and Tyler about our second bootcamp. It might be in New York or LA.

    Star instructor or RSD
    J

  27. Tyrone says:

    Great review J!

    I’m deeply impressed!
    I could impress Random.Samurai real “deep”, too!

    I think with my 10 inches of skill I could back up RSD through the backdoor!

    What you think?

  28. Phandral says:

    Although PhandralSchmandral might have a valid point there… what to do? I like the idea of genuine, like-minded individuals coming together and sharing ideas about the game, and helping each other improve, as opposed to mudslinging and spending entirely too much time trying to weed out who’s a fraud and who’s not. I won’t lie, I’m a long-time rAFC and I certainly don’t pupport to have all the answers, but I when originally came to this community in around 2000 when it was first gaining steam on the internet, I was welcomed by a bunch a folks from all walks of life who banded together trying to improve the quality of life for everyone else. I left because I didn’t have my “inner game” solid enough to actually put any of the wisdom into action. At the time, I didn’t even know what inner game was, or that it was holding me back. When I finally get that part of me handled half a decade later, I return only to see that the “community” it has degenerated into what it is lying before us now. I just think its sad.

    But, you guys are funny as hell, so rock on.

  29. J says:

    Fuck you Xaneus. Stick you cock in my mouth? Why don’t you take your pretty ass here and try that. I will bite you dick off like a fucking pretzel. Try that and you’ll end up with a sex change like papa.

    Before you talk shit about me, you better realize what I am capable of. Don’t let me catch of in our corporate head quarters. I’ll put my finger so far up your ass that what you take a shit, it will be comming out of Thundercats mouth.

    RSD Superstar
    J

  30. J says:

    You’ve got some real nice tallent Tyrone :)

    I’ll talk to papa and tyler and get you hired. I don’t think Xaneus will last that long. I’m hunting his pretty ass down.

  31. neilshmeil says:

    Harlequin,

    Damn, for a second I thought we were getting back to what this blog used to be…

    Oh, well, let the flaming continue…

  32. Wismerhill says:

    Phandral,

    mASF is a cess pool of flamers and random noobies giving shit advice to other noobies.

    We don’t need any more AFCs. true. the only way to know whether someone is a real PUA or not is to see them in field. Unfortunately there is a lot of “ass covering” going on and I think peeps have overly praised PUG’s game just to be in their good books.

    That’s way jlaix and xaneus are pissed at the reviews.

    That’s why ox won’t game infront of an mASF member, if he doesn’t know whether the guy will be hones about his skills.

    I honestly believe that there are only a handful of guys who actually have game. and the rest are “fakers till they make it”

  33. Don Won Ton Imposter says:

    @ thats very Powefull

    Yeah, no rsd, but also no david d, mystery, style, steve p, hypnotica. Looks like he just wanted different people than last year.

  34. Evo says:

    I agree with Wismerhill

    There are not too may PUA’s. Only idiots. 90% of the guys don’t get good at this and a lot of the post fake field reports and shit. Jlaix is one of them.

  35. Phandral says:

    That sounds about right, Wismerhill.

    So basically the community is regressing back to what life was before it existed… a lot of people talking a lot of shit, and only a handful of men on Earth are actually getting laid consistently by hot women.

  36. Wismerhill says:

    Evo,

    when you say 90% don’t get good at this, that is very true. Probably more like 95%. A lot of these deluded guys buy into false hopes given by TD and Mystery that they too will one day become super PUAs. and they should buy their rip off products. (which are available freely on filesharing BTW).

    To become a TRUE PUA is a privelage reserved for a minority who probably had good social skills to start with.

    Moreover, mASF really fucks with guys’ heads. There’s a lot of unhealthy mindsets and attitudes that you can pick up unknowingly. I dread to think what kind of weirdos it has produced.

    Phandral, that is correct IMO. To be a true seducer is a secret art. Luckily for us, deangelo, swinggcat and a few others have revealed the path to improving at the seductive arts.

  37. opiate says:

    I thought it was well known that jlaix, xaneus etc are fakes.

    It is telling that at bootcamps, they refuse to perform sets and rely on the weak frames of the customers to assert their reality.

    “she was well into you man, you could have fucked her there and then”.

    “wow, you can tell that because she blinked? OMG RSD rocks! youre the man jlaix ‘cos you stayed in set w/ a fat chick for a whole 30 seconds”

  38. Geese says:

    I tend to disagree with the assessment that only 5-10% of guys can get good.

    I will agree that only 5-10% will get good.

    The difference? If you can take a nerd like style and make him into a PUA, then anyone can do it.

    The problem is that too many guys are getting stuck doing the studying and not the practice.

    I think 90% of guys just sont want to or have the ability to put enough effort into it.

    My wing, who never has once posted anywhere on any forum fucking pulls attraction like a fricken idiot. Left and right. I was sitting next to him last night and he’s gaming one chick and another one fucking comes up and takes her spot as she gets up and starts IOIing him hard. I prewarned him that the club we were going to had a difficult crowd and told him, If the chick is an 8 neg her like a 10, for this area 6s and 7s are 8s and 8s are 10s for some reason. He listened and worked on pretty much negs alone. I would pull three negs on an 8 and then revert to normal storytelling and get blown out of set. He focused on simple negs and telling these girls that he would date them but as a photographer he would never let them model because of this flaw or that flaw. It was fucking working.

    My point is that he goes out 6 nights a week and has for years. Hes got his shit all worked out and is still in the process of improvement. We worked accomplishment intros and all that shit. Sure I got success, but he was doing a lot better.

    Most guys wont do that. Most guys don’t want to (or can’t) go out 4-6 nights a week to practice.

    Fuck until I move to a better area, which will hopefully be soon, I can’t even do that, but thats what it takes to get good. Go out 7 nights stay home 3. Like any game or any sport it takes consistant practice to get “that good” period. Anyone can do it IMO, but you got to want it. Looks wont stop you. Historically some ugly motherfuckers pulled some ass like nobodys business. Next time you’re at the Bookstore like Borders or whatever, browse “The Art of Seduction” by Robert Greene. Looks at the story of the italian guy in the Rakes section then theres another one about the monk Rasputin. (I would say Socrates too but he was a homo) All these guys were ugly bastards and still got more ass than anyone around. Whats his face at the beginning of the Cliffs list seminar talks about Casanova. Also not an attractive man.

    I think in the end it comes fown to practice.

    Years ago before I Never knew anything about this community I started going out and being social. I developed natural charisma on my own by going out 3-5 nights a week knowing NOTHING about seduction. Before I was a computer guy who stayed home and smoked dope all the time.

    Now after a short time at this Im NO WHERE near where I would like to be but Im definately doing alot better than I was. It takes Time+Practice+Desire. 1000 approaches. You take anyone and put that many approaches under his belt and he will be getting laid Period.

    I gotta go.

  39. Xaneus says:

    Oh its on now J. I just masterbated to the thought of vividly humiliating you in front of Papa and afterwards I get to take him home and penetrate those sweet, beautiful, oriental hamburger buns. You should know that I am an experienced masterbater due to the fact that I’ve never had sex before, and my loads have been known to be more deadly than corrosive acid.

    I hope you don’t swallow J.

    Xaneus

    PS: Gunwitch if you took one of your world famous massive shits and I busted a load on it, what would be the result?

  40. jazzpua says:

    you gotta watch how you act and watch what you say. cause there aint no stalling. when death come callin’

    The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
    The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
    The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
    Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
    Your brains come tumbling down your snout

    Be merry my friends
    Be merry

  41. emule says:

    ” The Attributes ” or:

    There’s a book that’s been out for a while now called “Build Attraction Secrets: The Foundations For Attraction,” and it was written by my buddy The One (aka Cameron Teone).

    yeah i just downloaded the book for free

    ya gotta love EMULE!

    do a search on emule,just type in ‘Cameron Teone’ and get the shit for free.

  42. The Darkchild says:

    On the dot Geese.

    Actually I think it goes even deeper then that. Every guy is a natural. Every man in this world knows how to pick up women. Every single one of you out there KNOWS how to get laid.

    The problem is not the wisdom, it’s the confidence. It’s always been the confidence. If you really needed to “learn” how to seduce women, then how do you explain that some men never read about seduction and still get laid easily.

    They’re not better then you in any way. It’s all about learning how to TRUST in general. Trust yourself, trust the situation, trust your mind, trust LIFE (but never trust that bitch! LOL!).

    Even before I had read anything about seduction or anything related to women whatsoever, I used what Mystery calls Neg-hits and what Davind Deangelo calls Cocky & Funny.

    Action reaction, it’s simple. The bitch was being snobby and ACTING cool, and I didn’t like it…

    As a matter of fact I hated it, She had this whole “I’m the bitch” attitude with her. So I did something about it. I dissed her. For those of you who like it cryptic and scientific:

    I Neg-hitted her

    I was being C&F

    Whatever…

    I didn’t do this because I was trying to pick her up or seduce her, mind you. I did it because it just felt like the right thing to do. I didn’t like her stupid “i’m cool and hot because I’m fem” act. The fact that she was drooling all over me after a few days of “treatment” was just a bonus, LOL.

    I was just beГЇng myself. And myself doesn’t take shit from people, expecially from women (god knows they got a lot of shit to give out). (Sorry girls, it’s a guy thing, you wouldn’t understand, hehe)

    Hec, if she was a guy I wouldn’t take that shit from her, so why should I do it if it’s a female.

    Women in general got some serious bagage dude, expecially the hot one’s. You have to make sure that her shit doesn’t become your shit. You do this by calling her on it. And one thing to always have as back-up, is the ability to walk away. Because if she is trying to give you a hard time, and you call her on it, and ofcourse convey that your not affraid to say next, she’ll become very apologetic. And will in fact start working to keep you around.

    Women are complicated dude. And you don’t need to understand them, that’s not your job. What you need is to understand yourself, and the fact that MEN, DON’T TAKE SHIT FROM PEOPLE.

    It’s pure intuГЇtion and instinct. All you have to do, is make sure your around women often, and EXPIREMENT. Do whatever feels cumfy, but at the same time take some risks… and experiment. It’s fun. And really addictive, lol.

    If your around women often and long enough, you will start to “feel”, and do. Not because your “learning” how to do it, but because it’s your JOB. Your a man, and either way if you’re around women all the time, you’ll start behaving like one. It’s not a choice, it’s just the way to go. It’s natural.

    Your not a kid anymore right? It’s not that easy to get hurt now, even if you were hurt many times when you were a smallfry. Your bigger and stronger now, not just your body, but your mind to.

    So get out there, fuck a ho, and then blow her off. She will instantly become your slave. Ofcourse I don’t need to tell you that you shouldn’t do this if the girl is decent. But hey, I’m not even sure those types exist anymore, so just forget I said that.

    Remember, if something she says or does just doesn’t feel right, she’s trying to manipulate you. And that’s your cue to become a jerk. Albeit a very subtle, calm and charming jerk, hehe. Never lose the cool, and always go smooth, fly below radar (or above for that matter, hehe).

    The D.

  43. Elvis Preston King says:

    Geese,

    I appreciate your view, but until you have seen the King in action yourself you won’t really know. I Love picking up and seducing girls and I love bragging about it. NO one in the world gets the numbers of girls in the sack as YOUR king.

    I did have an interesting thing happen today in the field. I was picking up a young girl and she mentioned to my wingman that I looked like her Grandfather, but I still have a date with her!!! You better get down on your knees and hope you still have it at 56, pushing 57 years old.

    By the way I do my workshops for the boys because I love it. Even if guys pay me what I am worth it is NOT enough money to live the Millionaire lifestyle that I am accustomed to. I have decided that I am going to open a money making business. A sports book or something. I feel that any young guy who wants to learn the Elvis Method is looking at a small window of time to get that accomplished. I will NOT always be available. The best you will be able to get is maybe my wingman, Alberto Prince and I plan uping his salary and taking him with me. He is GOOD! and I would hate to have to train a new guy. He also is a natural, naturals are hard to find. Yes, I think that Style being the geek turned playboy should give hope to a lot of guys. Hell, I am these boys hope if you would open up that tiny little mind of yours. The fact that an old guy can get laid like your king should be lot of hope for the boys. Look, my generation never trusted anyone over 30 and we thought we would live forever. It just ain’t true. We are all Sooner or later going to be old farts. The good news if some of these boys hang out with the king my art will not be lost. and some young guy will live a full and happy life after he aquires my skills. Everbody doesn’t think I am a crock of bullshit. I have two repeat students coming back for advanced training in April and May. I have one young guy who has studied my blog and he is picking up girls like there is no tomorrow. He is 19 years old. He thinks I am Elvis come back to the building! I am his idol. Now I know how Mystery and Style feel to be idolized. I promised him no matter how rich I get I will hang out with him for free. Hell, I have been coaching him for free. This is NOT all about money for the KING, Elvis Preston King, This is about friends, fun, beach and hot babes.

    Elvis Preston King, the World’s Greatest Pickup Artist

  44. Tyrone says:

    I’m gonna be the next RSD-Superstar!

    All you cuties who try to hide from chicks what uber-geeks they are by using caaned routines bow down!

    Dr. Tyrone is going to insert 10 ” of trouser-salami in your proctum, fo’ sho’!

    BTW, do you pua-losers really think a 3 day bootkamp ca change your hilarious life?

    Well, J and me are planning a bootcamp thats gonna be real “Intense”, although we’re soften from what you’re used from RSD: the piss-puke-scat routine is history!

    But the “GREAT” Tyrone is gonna shve the gay-routine to a another level!

    be prepared students!

    I also be teaching alpha-BL in a way that even the mighty Cortez won’t look ridiculous anymore!

    your new RSD “HEAD”coach 10” TYRONE

  45. L8er says:

    People are getting tired of your ramblings Elvis.
    From the pictures i saw on your site it was obvious that you are getting laid and are having a great time. Though those girls are not entirely my type (no this is not meant as a racist comment), they have slender bodies, so more power to you man.

    But please stop that silly talk about your “great wing Alberto”, and about “upping his salary”. Come on man tell it to someone who cares :)

    What are you looking for anyway? Students for your workshop? Recognition of your skills?

    No disrespect here, just a bit tired of your posts, haha.

  46. Remedy says:

    Phandral,

    Believe me i have tried to help these new guys that come into the community time after time.
    The problem is that most guys that ever make it to a decent lair (where i coach), are i really bad shape when they get there.
    Beliefs really messed up, no or very little selfrespect, etc. etc.

    And most of those guys don’t even see their present situation as being that painful. Like they are almost comfortable in their present situation, they don’t want to change that bad.

    What i usually do is give them some “tough love” as David D. calls it. Works sometimes since they are only used to a society where everything has to be “nice”, “soft” and “sweet”.
    That does not make a man. Facing your fears and starting with the most difficult shit first is what makes you a better man.

    Don’t bother looking for my name on any lair, i post under a different name here. Learned that soon enough :)

    Oh and please bring on the comments about the “tough love” and me ofcourse being gay because of that, haha love those comments.

  47. Tough Love says:

    Remedy

    you want some tough love then how bout i shove my cock up your tight arse until you cant walk.

    Then, after i have done that i will blow a load on your face – hope you dont mind but it is my trademark move!!

    Then, i will call Don Won Ton, and he can bring his E-6 bum faggots round, and well, i cant tell you too much more because you are probably jacking off to this atm…lets just say that you might need an arse transplant or something because after we are done, your arse will be left in tatters.

    …….and thats…….

    -Tough Love

  48. Tyrone says:

    Hey Tough Love, that post was hilarious!

    hahahahahahahaha hahahaha!

    maybe you can wing with me at my next RSD-darkroom-bootcamp!

  49. GONEMAD says:

    Who wants to buy my Ebook?
    It is written completely in Red Letters which makes it very special. Also I made sure I invented 2 new Acronyms. You can download it from emule.
    I think bumsing is a great skill to have vbecause uonce aou masrtere the skill of bumsiong you wil fuckcin wso maNY ZHB THAT YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW NICE TI SI TOO FUCFJKГ–JL

  50. The Darkchild says:

    Goddamn it Elvis, you are one annoying little fucker. I never knew OLD people could be so fucking annoying.

    So you are living proove that you can get laid when your a grandpa, and after your having trouble getting hard.

    Who gives a shit?

    Do you actually have something to offer? Besides a bundle or irritation? Your posts are fucking empty man. Get a life…

    I can’t believe that someone who can get laid the way you say you do, will take the time to post up an assembly of bullshit like that.

    Elvis just took a leap of a building!
    OMG!

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