Kicked And Banned — Again?
March 9, 2006 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
Okay, breaking news…
(I know how you guys all love drama, so hold onto your hats, this one’s a doozy)
Since 2003, I was a member of an elite message board knwon as Mystery’s Lounge. It was a great place where the best PUAs in the world got together to discuss concepts and ideas and all that great stuff. Then, something happened to change that… namely, Project Hollywood.
After Mystery got betrayed by Tyler Durden and Papa, he began to focus more on his own career and less on the community. He disowned the original Mysterys Lounge, instead opting to create a new one for his workshop students. So the old Mystery’s Lounge morphed into a message board called only "Underscore."
It was basically the same thing, only without a new name and Mystery posting there all the time.
Then, a wierd thing started to happen. Most of the really good PUAs stopped posting there, and the Real Social Dynamics guys began to invite a bunch of their "followers" to join the board. This is about the time when I stopped visiting the board. It wasn’t fun any more, most of the cool guys I liked had left, and the information wasn’t all that great.
(Plus, I have this site which takes up all of my posting power, so I usually had nothing to say on underscore anyway).
And today, I find out that I’ve been uncerimoniously KICKED AND BANNED from Underscore, formerly "Mystery’s Lounge."
Here’s the email I got from Toecutter:
Toecutter writes:
Thundercat,If you are not following the lounge, we have just had an audit where everyone has posted a vouch for all the people that they know (including what they have seen in-set). We have kiced a whole bunch of people.
What you needed to be retained was to be vouched for by a minumum of 2 people…
You were vouched for by 3 people: Style, LittlebigDick and Christophe. All are in copy here. The problem is that your membership was called into question by by Jlaix and others.
Your membership in the lounge makes you a part of our community. Most of us have been vouched for by like 20 people. So it has come down to you … the man … Thundercat … has been called into question. Further, your blog has been accused as being anti-lounge.
So at the end of the day, you are loosing this, man. Let me tell you the score….
You are out … right now it is 28 to 1 (I have abstained).
There is nothing I could do. Jlaix (who is in copy), put a case against you, and I put it to the lounge.
At the end of the day, as you can see, you are more than voted out.
So there is the story. If you want to discuss, please e-mail me in return.’
I have included (in copy) everyone here so there are no secrets, but if you want to discuss it you can e-mail me privately.
Look forward to discussing it with you.
Toecutter
Now, I haven’t been on "The Lounge" in over a year, so I can’t say I’ll miss it. It doesn’t surprize me to see that a message board filled with RSD members has decided to kick and ban me, since it seems to be a crime to point out their shady business practices and penchant to lie and over-exagerate their abilities. So I can’t say it’ll be a big loss to me.
I’ve made good friends off what used to be "The Lounge." When I was first made a member, it was a magic place for me. Lots of great PUA knowledge, and lots of cool guys. Unfortunately, it’s degenerated into something that no longer has any magic for me. I don’t know half the guys on the underscore lounge, and only half of the ones I do know are people I care to associate with.
I always liked Jlaix, never had anything against him, and think he’s a brilliant comedic writer and kick-ass karaoke singer, but it’s apparent his loyalty to RSD is unshakable. That’s a shame. I see way to many cool guys get pulled into the "Tyler Cult" and get all wierd and vindictive.
From my point of view, I quit the lounge a long time ago, so I’m not going to fight being banned from RSD’s after-school club. I was never a fan of having to "prove yourself" to be a member of the board, since being a cool guy you could learn and discuss things with was always enough for me. But the egos on the board liked to have the "Underlings" prove their worthiness to be a member of their club.
The fact is, I’m happy with my life. I have great friends, a great job, I’m doing what I love, and though I haven’t found the girl for me yet, I am going out on plenty of dates and having a great time (as opposed to when I first joined The Lounge and was a hopeless AFC). I feel I’m on my way to achieving what I wanted when I first joined the community, and this success makes me feel I have nothing to benefit by being a member of underscore anymore.
Just like when I was banned from the Speed Seduction list for speaking out against Ross Jeffries, I’m now banned from underscore for speaking out against RSD. Good riddance, I say. They can have their fan club. I’ll survive and probably be better off for it.
I know RSD has their own secret message board where they like to sit around and plot the end of the world, along with the demise of me, Style, and David DeAngelo. Personally, I believe that they like to use the underscore lounge to steal all their latest ideas, and then use their private RSD board to plot how to use said stolen ideas in secret. (I have no proof of this, like I said, it’s justa theory. However, the fact that they do have a secret message board has been verified)
So it’s apparent that RSD, in an attempt to punish me for speaking out against them, has gone the juvenile "nanny-nanny-nanny" rout by kicking me off a message board and excluding me from "the elite."
(Though the fact that I’m still friends with a lot of the good PUAs out there kind-of defeats the purpose, don’t you think?)
I can’t say I’ll miss posting on the board formerly known as "The Lounge." This blog has always been a better outlet for me than the Lounge ever was. And where else could you find 300-reply long threads of Papa and Tyler under a billion different aliases. =)
(Just kidding, I know Papa and Tyler get others to do the dirty work for them.)
The funny thing is, I actually MET the requirements for staying in the underscore lounge. I can remember back in the day when it only took 1 person to vouche for you to stay a member, and I got 3. I guess I should feel special that it took an emergency message board-wide vote to kick me out. Though to be fair (and stroke my ego a bit), the people who could REALLY vouch for me are people who never bother to post on that board anymore (people like Swinggcat, Roadking, Craig, and others), so I feel I’ll be in good company with them.
I find it funny my blog is said to be "anti-lounge." That was never the case, and I always went to great pains never to reveal anything that was posted on The Lounge on my site without permission. If by "anti-Lounge," they mean "anti-RSD," then I can see where they’re coming from, since underscore is now synonymous with RSD. That is the only part of the whle ordeal I’d take to task and argue with, but it’s just not that important to me to defend myself to the people who wanted me out. They can’t get revenge any other way I suppose, so they have to resort to stupid school-yard stuff like this. Waaa-waaa.
My mom always says "The best revenge is a life well lived," and I feel I’m living a great life right now, just like I hope you and the other good souls on the underscore board are. In the end, that’s more important to me than a membership to a boys club, and it should be important to all of you as well.
So in the end, I’m just gonna keep doing what I do, and have a great time doing it, and let RSD sit in their dark corner and plot my demise. Maybe if RSD and MINE’99 ever team up, we could have a real Superfriends Showdown or something like that. =)
Kennethvenny on 
Keithboogy on 
Every shitty ass review about RSD says the only damn thing they know how to do is send their students into sets to do approaches–dozens of them a night.
Wow! That’s worth thousands of dollars! Overcome “social pressure”. Ground-breaking stuff. Where do I sign up?
what a fuckin’ joke…
This is like a taboid, and they are right about you caring. It’s obvious because you wrote such a long post to describe you getting kicked out. So, in essence you’ve drawn a lot more negativity toward yourself… however, I will not say that you are a joke. You’re not… If you don’t get laid–bro, I feel ya’–that should be a reason to post not to be banned… but really, I’ve only followed this community for a couple months now and have this to say… there’s obviously rivalry between you and the RSD side.. They seem like loser’s. Ignore them, you are already doing well in the community wether you get action from the ladies or not.. I like Danny Boy’s post, but everytime I come back to check things out or hopefully pickup a tip without sitting on my ass watching a dvd on how to pickup chicks or paying some “instructor,” all I ever see is bashing from both sides… It’s like a bunch of silly girls… can we one day get BACK ON SUBJECT.. I’m a cool dude and I never get laid, unfortunately. It’s not b/c of my lack of game, It’s my lack of time investment into getting laid and my unwillingness to compromise that keeps me dry, so I imagine TC is prob. a pretty cool dude too, but he’d be alot cooler if he just forgot about his enemies… that’s what “inner game” is all about…
BTW: Do you guys prefer to open singles or a two set? Since it’s a numbers game, I used to think my odds were better by getting “in” with the group, but lately I’ve been getting “It’s girls night out” and I’ve found it difficult to get women to open up when they’re with their girlfriends.. I don’t know why because I think they’d be less inhibited, but maybe they just want to appear “too important” to their friends to talk to me.. I’m a little confused on the subject… but I’ve recently found 3x more luck with singles than pairs or groups.. Any insight?
The only reason these guys from the Undercurrent bitch about other people (like Thundercat for example) not getting laid is to cover up the fact that they themselves don’t get laid.
It’s that whole idea that if person A says Person B isn’t getting laid then people will assume that person A must be saying it because he is getting laid. Well I hate to tell ya but it only worked in highschool and thats what you’re trying to make up for now. Sorry though the reason it worked in highschool was because people were highschool age. It doesn’t work with adults.
Funny how the only people that think RSD gets laid is RSD.
BTW great pic of Styles ability to close what adds up to an 8. Now I know where he gained his reputation. No it wasn’t photoshopped.
Check out This shit. We’ve all the scumbas in one pic,
http://puapics.white.prohosting.com/
Paul,
Yout the biggest two face person i’ve ever seen. You act friendly with mystery and gunwitch then you turn around and diss them behind there backs, using such names as misery and gunbitch.
If i’m mistaken or not didn’t you invite mystery to one of your seminars as a guset/speaker?
At one moment you say good things about gunwitch then you turn around and diss him.
I honestly wonder if you have a quarter and flip it in the air to decide whether you like someone on a given day.
Also didn’t you say thundercat was never a customer/student, well how he can be kicked and banned if he never was one? Do you want me to show you evidence of you saying that he was never affiliated with you?
What new lows have you sunk to Paul? I mean endorsing someone like stephanie semen, a known jerk who makes women squirt pee, come on now paul?
I guess there are two sides to you like bishop said, stop with the multiple personality disorder/flip flopping.
Until you get some help with that, I wouldn’t recommend anyone trusting you for anything.
” mean endorsing someone like stephanie semen, a known jerk who makes women squirt pee, come on now paul?”
I was wondering how long before someone brought up that pretentious, turd-burglar of a “man” stephan “stephie” sheman. For kicks this *****path dumps a load into his screwball bisexual partner’s mouth and has her spit it out into some unsuspecting guy’s mouth who just happened to talk to his “property”. Nice guy…I’m sure it’s ok of course for him to steal away another guys women..lowlife that he is.
A history teacher once told me that Hitler got sexual pleasure when a women would piss on his face….wonder where stephie got the idea from?
Why anybody would want to associate with this class A nutbag is beyond me.
You ever notice how these gurus who are here to help bring more pleasure into the world bring about just as much contempt and misery?
The more you find out about them the more you realise they need to have the bolts tighented around there respective necks……
” mean endorsing someone like stephanie semen, a known jerk who makes women squirt pee, come on now paul?”
I was wondering how long before someone brought up that pretentious, turd-burglar of a “man” stephan “stephie” sheman. For kicks this *****path dumps a load into his screwball bisexual partner and has her spit it out into some unsuspecting guy’s mouth who just happened to talk to his “property”. Nice guy…I’m sure it’s ok of course for him to steal away another guys women..lowlife that he is.
A history teacher once told me that Hitler got sexual pleasure when a women would piss on his face….wonder where stephie got the idea from?
Why anybody would want to associate with this class A nutbag is beyond me.
You ever notice how these gurus who are here to help bring more pleasure into the world bring about just as much contempt and misery?
The more you find out about them the more you realise they need to havem there bolts tighented around there respective necks……
Threre’s WAYYYY to many men in the community who are drama queens. My advice thundercat… skip them all.
From The Art of Approaching:
(Walk up to a girl, point at her
pants) “Yo, do you got a keg in your pants?” (She’ll usually look at you with a blank, confused stare, or respond “No.” After this, smile and say jokingly) “’Cause I’d like to tap that ass!”
THANKS THUNDERCAT GREAT ADVICE!!!
Hey TC
You weren’t contributing anymore, which is the main reason you were kicked.
Furthermore, this whole thing on here is just weird. What the hell is wrong with you?
If I got removed from there, I’d just keep working at my game until I got back in. Or talk to toecutter, etc. Instead, you have just burnt all your social capital.
And what for? Nothing. You’ve just amused a bunch of internet geeks. I don’t know what happened to you, but you were the one that changed. Not us.
Cheers
Why Ross would post that is beyond me as well. He and I have long since buried the hatchet from those days.
Perhaps Ross underestimates my intelligence and figures I am now angry at him because of what he said about me in the book, because I have no concept of the timeline and think he just said it having read it?
Perhaps whoever posted it just read the game and assumes Ross and I are still embroiled in some flame war.
Kind of like how people assume I still don’t like Mystery when the reason I didn’t was because he was associating with TD.
Ross surely had beef with me because of the style in which TD came at him and the SS students in promotion of GWM.
As far as the issue at hand,
Ya see folks, RSD are the only ones that have their shit together, they hang together, so the rest of us hang seperate.
Anyone who disagrees from within their own ranks appears to be thrown out.
OBVIOUSLY thundercat not having posted in a year (so he wasn’t being a disruption in the said forum), then his stance on RSD coming up in there, is the reason he was thrown out of their little forum suddenly and recently.
Why did it come up suddenly if not because of his recent poor reviews?
Obviously it was because of him being anti RSD. Hence not with their goals, and was dealt a blow for it, a weak blow, the only way they could.
These are just the facts, not a subject of debate.
Realize that RSD has their shit together so much business wise (online promotion wise anyway)that when they are defended, or when someone “votes TC out” for example this is not random supporters.
Half of these people are instructors, former instructors or HEAVY followers of their cult of personality justifying their purchases of high ticket items.
And thats just the proven ones, on a no registration blog like this, basically anyone who stands up for them could be one of these people posting as “juicycunthole99″
There can be no debate on why TC was thrown out of there after a full year of “not being proven” they JUST got around to it? Ridiculous.
It was a light slap back at the massive brutal kicks in the head he gave em recently.
Right or wrong, to debate this is stupidity about human nature, conflict, and simple logical retaliation.
So basically you’re saying the community was cool 2-3 years ago when it was public and free on mASF but was done in by overpriced, self-aggrandizing seduction products and fragmented “super-secret” forums with the most “cutting edge techniques”. Is this NEWS?
WHAA! WHAA!
I got banned from the secret message board!
WHAA!!!
Thundercat, I warned you multiple times your blog was turning into a cesspool of negativity.
And you yourself are the one fueling it. If took responsibility for it, you would’ve made people register and log in.
Your fault, your loss, your mess.
I really do hope you’ll find the strength in yourself to turn your own negativity around, but I suspect your ego won’t let you…
THUNDERCAT LISTEN UP:
YOU HAVE TO FUCKING MAKING MEMBERSHIP EXCLUSIVE TO THIS SITE. THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING WHO ANY OF THESE POSTERS ARE. I LIKE YOU AND SUPPORT YOU, BUT YOU’VE GOTTA MAKE A LOG-IN OR SOMETHING FOR THIS SITE.
p.s. Can I meet you? I go to USC so we’re both in LA, and my spring break starts tomorrow.
THUNDERCAT
My suggestion regarding posting on this site is the following;
Make it so that people can post BOTH anonymously OR ALTERNATIVELY by signing in.
That way,
1)You won’t lose traffic since people will still be able to post without signing in.
2)With the sign in option, some names are protected by password and can somehow be distinguished from the non-membership names by color or something or a “REAL NAME” tag. That way, everybody will be able to know when the poster is the real deal or a faker, and people who wish so (Gurus etc) can be authenticated, encouraging them to post here more often.
My 2 CENTINOS
Who gives a shit if you get kicked out of a “exclusive PUA lounge”? Those donkey dicks couldn’t get laid in a morgue.
Do you think they talk about anything more effective that hasn’t been posted thousands of times on every other goddamn forum?
The techniques have been around for decades. Recently, a few geeks copied some Naturals and added their own “nerdy” spin to them but they have always been around.
The difference is about execution. Can you go out and put them into practice and close the deal? Most still can’t. Yes, they will bager some chick until they finally give them their number, and the PUAgeek will go back and high five his Wing-geek and then they’ll write a 1000 page essay on it at masF.
Another thing: go on some of the other forums and watch all these losers try and come up with “the next new technique”. It’s really funny. They all want to be the nex Style, instead of just getting laid and being happy. Better to get propz and validated by other ugly geeks in this so-called community.
TC…piece of advice. Do not make another post explaining why you got kicked out of their gay forum. Who gives a shit? They did you a favor. Trust me.
Here you can see how some geeky german teenage PUAs try to seduce Shtyle:
http://www.mysterymethod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5592&page=2
He’s pretty darn ugly!
Besides, Thundercat. You knew that we repeatedly invited you to our members only Sex Circle and you repeatedly turned us down. I told you it wouldn’t sit well with alot of the guys and just because the sex circle doesn’t have any women in it doesn’t mean you would be considered gay. We are after all pick up artists. I told you that in order to get good with women you would have to “get in with the fellas” first.
Too bad for you. Now no one is going to our fabulous get-togethers ever again. Thats what you get for thinking you’re too good to have a bunch of us lounge guys run a train on you. Well, buddy, you just ruined that opportunity from ever taking place! I hope you’re happy with yourself.
Just remember. Power hungry and exclusive Message board guys are usually that way to make up for the lack of real life they have. Its always nice to come home after being a loser all day and then jump on the computer and be powerful.
I love getting kicked out of “members only” blogs, boards and servers. It’s even more funny/pathetic when the guys who kick you out get all serious and try to lord it over on you. I mean, talk about uber-geekdom.
Cerebrum, that login-or-post-anonymously idea is a good one.
Thundercat, make it so.
And quick, so i don’t have to punch you in the face, hear me?
How come Ross Jeffries original posts are even more hilarious than posts by impostors?
Except the “real” RJ tries to hide his affinity to negro cock!
With this post, along with the above post, and many others like it, I’m starting to wonder if whats really going on is that many of the so-called PUAs are really Raging Homosexuals in disguise.
its funny the sexmasters teach us be confident don’t care what other people say,yet they are so pissed off cuz we make fun of them!
hahaha
any links to their elite forum???
Guys, wake up!!!
TC is right, there is a top secret board and all the best ideas are there.
The Proof: Have you seen what is passing for ADVANCED on ASF these days ?
Since The Game came out, eveyone good has jumped ship and left the Newbtards to fend for themselves
Yeah, the top guys will pop in from time to time with their C-level Brokeback Mountain type tactics.
But this is just to keep thier street cred -and also to keep you buying their products.
TC I commend you on your groundbreaking journalism.
jlaix is a crackhead who pulls 6s.
chessclub was barely a 4.
TD can’t pull shit to save his life.
_underscore is nothing more than a gayball circle-jerk.
nuffsaid.
Don’t recall being asked by anyone to show my “self proclaimed” abilities.
Actually, there were numerous requests on this board. Many came from the Ross Jeffries crowd. You don’t have to qualify to those people, but may I remind you that you have asked Ross Jeffries yourself to put forward some evidence that he has at least some game?
I am not a frequent reader of this blog, yet still do I recall having read posts from people who did not show to be fanatic followers of gurus. I have made such a request myself and I don’t have any affiliations with any seduction-related company nor do I follow any guru.
Mystery establishes in his workshops time and time again his credibility as a seduction coach. The very thing you demanded from others is a basic building block of his business model.
Is it too far fetched to ask the same of you since you also sell seduction-related products for money?
You have been in the community for several years, have contacts and possible friends among top players who have not only proven their own capabilities with women but also established a record of being able to teach these abilities to others.
If friendship, experience and commercial products can change an AFC to a well-balanced person with a successful love-live, you would be a role-model.
Yet you don’t post any field reports on your blog. Or outing reports. Or any reports on your own behalf.
If you know all of these people with high credibility – well, at least some of them can be considered credible – you have listed, why doesn’t any of them step up and post an endorsement of your in-field skills to one of the web boards like mASF?
However, if all the powers, knowledge, and relationships to top-players and teachers have failed to make you a success, what can the average Joe hope for?
Well, you do post things that sell well – admittedly, you generate much more traffic than any of those field- and game-oriented blogs out there.
The rainbow-press of the seduction community is apparently an awesome business idea.
Actually, I do wish you all the best. I do hope that you will find the one girl for you. But you must get rid of the hate and the negativity that made your blog so successful. Your blog sarges guys, but it won’t help you reach your romantic goals. Only a positive self-image can do that.
I didn’t get any replies or comen tts on mASF, so I was just wondering if you guys would give me some feedback. Thanks in advance.
It occurred to me that there are three unidentified definitions of value, whereas the two current identified values are High and Low Values. The game as it is played today involves demonstrating high value to a target or set to raise her opinion of the player. But the notion of needing to DHV to a woman is rooted in automatically giving her HV because of her beauty. But value is not something that is openly and freely distributed: in order to give a woman HV, a guy must first lower his own value. This initial LV is the reason most beginning Pick-Up Artists expend the majority of effort during a PU in DHV to the target or set, to regain the personal value they initially gave away, through tactics and techniques such as negs, routines, and cocky-funny lines.
Everybody starts out with a Base Value, which is an assumed value of one’s self worth. Average Frustrated Chumps feel LV, Pick-Up Artists feel HV. Regardless of what it is they feel, this value is their BV which won’t change whether he goes out and picks-up every girl he meets or crashes and burns all night. An AFC will feel the constant need to demonstrate high value, while a PUA doesn’t need to DHV because he knows he’s HV: he can have any girl he wants if he wants. BV grows and diminishes over time slowly, either by repeated success or failure in their efforts and the effect those successes or failures will have on their personality (which is unique to the individual and cannot be predetermined).
Social Proof, or Automatic Value, is the total value that assigned to singular persons by the other people in the environment. Negs are an example of a way used to diminish a girl from HV by reducing her from beauty queen to average girl, which is her BV before she spends hours in front of a mirror. A girl surrounded by hordes of guys drooling over her are given Automatic High Value, whereas girls sitting alone or being ignored by men are given Automatic Neutral-Low Value, either because she’s a bitch or boring. Every guy that isn’t already a celebrity always start out at AN-LV because there is no way for a girl to tell what his social status is. An AFC will give a girl AHV because she’s beautiful, and a PUA will give girls AN-LV because he knows that she hasn’t DHV to him: remember, he can have any girl he wants, so what makes her special?
If a guy goes out and sees a girl and thinks, вЂwow, that girl is HOT!’, he’s instantly giving away his own HV to a girl, as opposed to thinking, вЂwell that girl spent two hours getting ready just like every other girl’, which assumes the girl has a Neutral Value and does not rob the guy of his own value. To demonstrate how this applies to real life, look at what happens when a man goes to a strip club; he walks in to see gorgeous women, and he automatically assumes that he’s LV because he’s intimidated by the dancers who look like they can have any man they want. To DHV to the dancers, he lays his money down and in return, they flirt and smile, which boosts the guy’s Automatic Value higher; he’s rich enough to waste money on dances, so other dancers should try to con him out of dances if they get the chance. His AV is high because girls are paying attention to him (albeit because he’s paying them) but as soon as he leaves the club his AV drops back to his base value. Those strippers won’t talk to him if they run into him on the street, because once again his low BV is made apparent by his low AV outside the club, where he wouldn’t pay for a woman’s company while he shops for groceries.
That’s all I’ve got for now, hopefully some of you guys have noticed this going on.
Key points are:
*High Value, Neutral Value, and Low Value are the values that a singular person can assign to another person.
*Base Value is the value that a person assigns them self
*Automatic Value is the cumulative value assigned by other people to a singular person (Social Proof)
Hey Samurai!
You know Gunwitch display high value by farting the yankee doodle?
You ugly motherfucker, piss off, spelling genius!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>And today, I find out that I’ve been >uncerimoniously KICKED AND BANNED from >Underscore, formerly “Mystery’s Lounge.”
So?
Damn Random Samurai
Shut the fuck up you ugly mother fucker. You are the only person who is more uglier than Thunderfat and that fat bitch Jlax was daing. Don’t make me post picture of you here again.
Hidious Creature, go back to the Lords of the Rings, that’s where you belong.
Later “Randing Fucking KJ Samurai”
Aw poor baby you were kicked from some internet forum go cry
Little baby Ross Jeffries
How many cocks did you suck today?
It’s amazing to see you judging others as throwing around darkness and sickness when that is what you do 100% of the time. What else would one call all of your attacks on every since person in the seduction community–aside from the times you get on all fours and suck on Strauss’s dick, or perhaps let him take you in the ass?
Ross you cannot pretend to be a loving guy when you act like such an asshole all the time. When you are an immature keyboard jockey who gets no women and sits around all day crying about your meds not working and trying to overcome your bi-polar disorder by using magical spells on people.
Love means being nice to people and acting cordially to others. But you have no friends–even though you hate to admit it. No one likes you. Even Yates thinks you’re a sack of shit.
Face it Ross. You are a miserable sack of petrid shit.
Will wrote:
“3) Who are some of the current guys in the Community today that you think newbies should listen to, and follow for success in a WIDE variety of situations with different types of women?
Cheers,”
The only person I actively endorse is Stephane Hemon:
http://www.ideagasms.com
The guy understands stuff that most will never have a clue about and stand very firmly against the darkness and sickness being thrown around.
I also think Dimitri and Woodhaven have
some good,working stuff that does NOT rely on stupid routines or having to “down” women, and they are good writers and appear to be good teachers who really care.
I don’t even know the name of their system or website.
Avoid everyone else like the plague. They are all either covered with abusive darkness, imitating Mystery, or ripping off me.
RJ
93/93
Little baby Ross Jeffries
How many cocks did you suck today?
It’s amazing to see you judging others as throwing around darkness and sickness when that is what you do 100% of the time. What else would one call all of your attacks on every since person in the seduction community–aside from the times you get on all fours and suck on Strauss’s dick, or perhaps let him take you in the ass?
Ross you cannot pretend to be a loving guy when you act like such an asshole all the time. When you are an immature keyboard jockey who gets no women and sits around all day crying about your meds not working and trying to overcome your bi-polar disorder by using magical spells on people.
Love means being nice to people and acting cordially to others. But you have no friends–even though you hate to admit it. No one likes you. Even Yates thinks you’re a sack of shit.
Face it Ross. You are a miserable sack of petrid shit.
Will wrote:
“3) Who are some of the current guys in the Community today that you think newbies should listen to, and follow for success in a WIDE variety of situations with different types of women?
Cheers,”
The only person I actively endorse is Stephane Hemon:
http://www.ideagasms.com
The guy understands stuff that most will never have a clue about and stand very firmly against the darkness and sickness being thrown around.
I also think Dimitri and Woodhaven have
some good,working stuff that does NOT rely on stupid routines or having to “down” women, and they are good writers and appear to be good teachers who really care.
I don’t even know the name of their system or website.
Avoid everyone else like the plague. They are all either covered with abusive darkness, imitating Mystery, or ripping off me.
RJ
93/93
The guy who posted as AnonymousLoungeMember is TylerDurden himself. Trust me on this.
“The guy who posted as AnonymousLoungeMember is TylerDurden himself. Trust me on this.”
OK I will anonymous internet person.
BAHAHA! I just saw that squirting preview movie on stephane’s site.
That girl looked like she was having a fucking seizure!
I got the complete video of stephane making her squirt- brilliant and priceless- tried it on some girls and it worked on 2 (out of about 12)- great stuff even if it looks weird
Thundercat,
You are lucky to no longer be associated with the RSD chodes. They are scum and their backstabbing history has been well documented.
Next person to post is a fag woh enjoys having thunderscats dick in his ass.
Ross Jeffries wrote: “When I started all of this I NEVER dreamed I would give birth to such a string of bastard children like DeAnushole, Tyler Spermin’, Misery, Gunbitch and the horde of third generation clowns, clucks and crazies that have followed in my wake.”
_____________________
A comment from Ross Jeffries’ Father:
I would like to apologize for my son. My wife and I did the best we could while raising him but, as you can see by his actions, we failed miserably.
Ross has very low self-esteem and, in an attempt to compensate, he attacks people that he envies rather than taking responsibility for his life.
My wife and I are somewhat to blame because as you can see from the photograph below we did not provide him with the best genetic material.
http://cache.viewimages.com/comp/1589888.jpg?x=x&dasite=ViewImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9B0238C52E2B0CC758F2AE57C9DA4FF490DDA1CEC43706AA
Ross started to act out after so many superior seduction products began to appear on the market. He was VERY LUCKY to be one of the first to sell a seduction product. The problem is that he is unable to adapt to the changing environment. And we all know what that means. It doesn’t look like he will be passing his genes on to another generation.
There is still time for him to change, but I do not have much hope, as he has never been one to admit his shortcomings.
Please forgive my son; he is really doing the best he can.
Ross’ Disappointed Father
Ross Jeffries wrote: “When I started all of this I NEVER dreamed I would give birth to such a string of bastard children like DeAnushole, Tyler Spermin’, Misery, Gunbitch and the horde of third generation clowns, clucks and crazies that have followed in my wake.”
_____________________
A comment from Ross Jeffries’ Father:
I would like to apologize for my son. My wife and I did the best we could while raising him but, as you can see by his actions, we failed miserably.
Ross has very low self-esteem and, in an attempt to compensate, he attacks people that he envies rather than taking responsibility for his life.
My wife and I are somewhat to blame because as you can see from the photograph below we did not provide him with the best genetic material.
http://cache.viewimages.com/comp/1589888.jpg?x=x&dasite=ViewImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9B0238C52E2B0CC758F2AE57C9DA4FF490DDA1CEC43706AA
Ross started to act out after so many superior seduction products began to appear on the market. He was VERY LUCKY to be one of the first to sell a seduction product. The problem is that he is unable to adapt to the changing environment. And we all know what that means. It doesn’t look like he will be passing his genes on to another generation.
There is still time for him to change, but I do not have much hope, as he has never been one to admit his shortcomings.
Please forgive my son; he is really doing the best he can.
Ross’ Disappointed Father
I’m like fuckin! Thunderdome:
Two brown sausages enter, one brown sausage leave!
Sploink!
RJBH
93/93
I’m like fuckin! Thunderdome:
Two brown sausages enter, one brown sausage leave!
Sploink!
RJBH
93/93
THANK YOUUUUUUU TC
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
Thank You For Being THE FUNNY THING IN THE COMMUNITY
You ThunderFAT, The “gay” One and Mine99′.
YOU ARE THE FUNNIEST JOKES OVER HERE
THANK YOUUUUUUU TC
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
Thank You For Being THE FUNNY THING IN THE COMMUNITY
You ThunderFAT, The “gay” One and Mine99′.
YOU ARE THE FUNNIEST JOKES OVER HERE
THANK YOUUUUUUU TC
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
Thank You For Being THE FUNNY THING IN THE COMMUNITY
You ThunderFAT, The “gay” One and Mine99′.
YOU ARE THE FUNNIEST JOKES OVER HERE
THANK YOUUUUUUU TC
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
Thank You For Being THE FUNNY THING IN THE COMMUNITY
You ThunderFAT, The “gay” One and Mine99′.
YOU ARE THE FUNNIEST JOKES OVER HERE
Shit! I just found a video of Thundercat’s old girlfriend.
She looks like the girl on the Wendy’s fastfood restaurant logo.
Enjoy.
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=WBW_5800.avi