Kicked And Banned — Again?
March 9, 2006 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
Okay, breaking news…
(I know how you guys all love drama, so hold onto your hats, this one’s a doozy)
Since 2003, I was a member of an elite message board knwon as Mystery’s Lounge. It was a great place where the best PUAs in the world got together to discuss concepts and ideas and all that great stuff. Then, something happened to change that… namely, Project Hollywood.
After Mystery got betrayed by Tyler Durden and Papa, he began to focus more on his own career and less on the community. He disowned the original Mysterys Lounge, instead opting to create a new one for his workshop students. So the old Mystery’s Lounge morphed into a message board called only "Underscore."
It was basically the same thing, only without a new name and Mystery posting there all the time.
Then, a wierd thing started to happen. Most of the really good PUAs stopped posting there, and the Real Social Dynamics guys began to invite a bunch of their "followers" to join the board. This is about the time when I stopped visiting the board. It wasn’t fun any more, most of the cool guys I liked had left, and the information wasn’t all that great.
(Plus, I have this site which takes up all of my posting power, so I usually had nothing to say on underscore anyway).
And today, I find out that I’ve been uncerimoniously KICKED AND BANNED from Underscore, formerly "Mystery’s Lounge."
Here’s the email I got from Toecutter:
Toecutter writes:
Thundercat,If you are not following the lounge, we have just had an audit where everyone has posted a vouch for all the people that they know (including what they have seen in-set). We have kiced a whole bunch of people.
What you needed to be retained was to be vouched for by a minumum of 2 people…
You were vouched for by 3 people: Style, LittlebigDick and Christophe. All are in copy here. The problem is that your membership was called into question by by Jlaix and others.
Your membership in the lounge makes you a part of our community. Most of us have been vouched for by like 20 people. So it has come down to you … the man … Thundercat … has been called into question. Further, your blog has been accused as being anti-lounge.
So at the end of the day, you are loosing this, man. Let me tell you the score….
You are out … right now it is 28 to 1 (I have abstained).
There is nothing I could do. Jlaix (who is in copy), put a case against you, and I put it to the lounge.
At the end of the day, as you can see, you are more than voted out.
So there is the story. If you want to discuss, please e-mail me in return.’
I have included (in copy) everyone here so there are no secrets, but if you want to discuss it you can e-mail me privately.
Look forward to discussing it with you.
Toecutter
Now, I haven’t been on "The Lounge" in over a year, so I can’t say I’ll miss it. It doesn’t surprize me to see that a message board filled with RSD members has decided to kick and ban me, since it seems to be a crime to point out their shady business practices and penchant to lie and over-exagerate their abilities. So I can’t say it’ll be a big loss to me.
I’ve made good friends off what used to be "The Lounge." When I was first made a member, it was a magic place for me. Lots of great PUA knowledge, and lots of cool guys. Unfortunately, it’s degenerated into something that no longer has any magic for me. I don’t know half the guys on the underscore lounge, and only half of the ones I do know are people I care to associate with.
I always liked Jlaix, never had anything against him, and think he’s a brilliant comedic writer and kick-ass karaoke singer, but it’s apparent his loyalty to RSD is unshakable. That’s a shame. I see way to many cool guys get pulled into the "Tyler Cult" and get all wierd and vindictive.
From my point of view, I quit the lounge a long time ago, so I’m not going to fight being banned from RSD’s after-school club. I was never a fan of having to "prove yourself" to be a member of the board, since being a cool guy you could learn and discuss things with was always enough for me. But the egos on the board liked to have the "Underlings" prove their worthiness to be a member of their club.
The fact is, I’m happy with my life. I have great friends, a great job, I’m doing what I love, and though I haven’t found the girl for me yet, I am going out on plenty of dates and having a great time (as opposed to when I first joined The Lounge and was a hopeless AFC). I feel I’m on my way to achieving what I wanted when I first joined the community, and this success makes me feel I have nothing to benefit by being a member of underscore anymore.
Just like when I was banned from the Speed Seduction list for speaking out against Ross Jeffries, I’m now banned from underscore for speaking out against RSD. Good riddance, I say. They can have their fan club. I’ll survive and probably be better off for it.
I know RSD has their own secret message board where they like to sit around and plot the end of the world, along with the demise of me, Style, and David DeAngelo. Personally, I believe that they like to use the underscore lounge to steal all their latest ideas, and then use their private RSD board to plot how to use said stolen ideas in secret. (I have no proof of this, like I said, it’s justa theory. However, the fact that they do have a secret message board has been verified)
So it’s apparent that RSD, in an attempt to punish me for speaking out against them, has gone the juvenile "nanny-nanny-nanny" rout by kicking me off a message board and excluding me from "the elite."
(Though the fact that I’m still friends with a lot of the good PUAs out there kind-of defeats the purpose, don’t you think?)
I can’t say I’ll miss posting on the board formerly known as "The Lounge." This blog has always been a better outlet for me than the Lounge ever was. And where else could you find 300-reply long threads of Papa and Tyler under a billion different aliases. =)
(Just kidding, I know Papa and Tyler get others to do the dirty work for them.)
The funny thing is, I actually MET the requirements for staying in the underscore lounge. I can remember back in the day when it only took 1 person to vouche for you to stay a member, and I got 3. I guess I should feel special that it took an emergency message board-wide vote to kick me out. Though to be fair (and stroke my ego a bit), the people who could REALLY vouch for me are people who never bother to post on that board anymore (people like Swinggcat, Roadking, Craig, and others), so I feel I’ll be in good company with them.
I find it funny my blog is said to be "anti-lounge." That was never the case, and I always went to great pains never to reveal anything that was posted on The Lounge on my site without permission. If by "anti-Lounge," they mean "anti-RSD," then I can see where they’re coming from, since underscore is now synonymous with RSD. That is the only part of the whle ordeal I’d take to task and argue with, but it’s just not that important to me to defend myself to the people who wanted me out. They can’t get revenge any other way I suppose, so they have to resort to stupid school-yard stuff like this. Waaa-waaa.
My mom always says "The best revenge is a life well lived," and I feel I’m living a great life right now, just like I hope you and the other good souls on the underscore board are. In the end, that’s more important to me than a membership to a boys club, and it should be important to all of you as well.
So in the end, I’m just gonna keep doing what I do, and have a great time doing it, and let RSD sit in their dark corner and plot my demise. Maybe if RSD and MINE’99 ever team up, we could have a real Superfriends Showdown or something like that. =)
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TC,
just for the record, you should let this blog know that you were asked numerous times to demonstrate your self proclaimed abilities in field and you could not. In addition to that a good part of the reason you got kicked out of the lounge was your involvement in “shady” buisness deals with several people in the community with people whom shall remain nameless. We just felt that your integrity had been compromised. No hard feeling, you know how things can be.
“You were vouched for by 3 people Style, LittlebigDick and Christophe
Most of us have been vouched for by like 20 people”
YOU WERE ONLY VOUCHED BY CORPORATE AFFILIATES. THE WHOLE FORUM VOTED TO REMOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE A BIG FUCKING JOKE WITH NO GAME. THERE IS NO RSD CONSPIRACY.
THUNDERJEW
Tc Wrote:
- My mom always says “The best revenge is a life well lived,” and I feel I’m living a great life right now -
It may seem selfish, but that really is the only thing that counts, looking out for yourself and your loved ones.
NOW GET TO THE GYM AND LOSE THAT FAT GODDAMNIT!! How many times do we need to call you Thunderfat to motivate you?
Love your blog, nice place to rant
ROFL.
Don’t recall being asked by anyone to show my “self proclaimed” abilities. But since I’ve been out sarging with:
Mystery
Style
Christophe
Little Big Dick
Twenty-Six
Roadking
Sickboy
Playboy
AceRock
Craig
TheOne
Dreamweaver
Swinggcat
Herbal
Formhandle
Papa
Tyler
J-Dog
Yourself
…And many others (not to mention helping to instruct a Real Social Dynamics in-field workshop in Chicago, where I got a great deal of praise from their students, no less), it was never important to me to publically prove myself, because I honestly don’t give a shit what other people think of me, and I’m not in this to prove anything to anyone other than myself.
As far as “shady” business deals with other people in the community, I don’t know what you’re referring to. I’ve helped out some friends of mine who ran workshops and sold books and stuff by posting articles of theirs on this blog, and if that’s a crime — so what? This is my blog. I help who I like.
I like you Jlaix. Always did. I wish you’d stop hanging out with Tyler and Nick, since they seem to be a bad influence on you. So I don’t take it personal, just so you know.
As for my integrity, I feel I can sleep at night. And if RSD thinks I “lack integrity,” well, I’m sure I can learn to live with that. =)
Cheers.
Thundercat
Just a quick note, I was vouched for by Christophe, who’s an incredibly cool guy who also happens to be an RSD instructor, and in case you didn’t notice, I’m not a “corporate affiliate” of theirs, lol.
Thundercat
(or Thunderjew, whatever you prefer)
We prefer Thunderfat.
well i think its just fair.
you did really negative things for RSD like posting all those bad reviews and not a good one.
also since it is an requirement in the lounge to prove your field skills you should do it. why not post a LR here or on masf, maybe they will invite you again. i bet it’s nothing personal against you from most people, just that they want to see some prove.
but thanks for sharing that drama with us!
Thundercat I dont know you but have made some observations I have been into the whole seduction thing for to years and have devoured all the info avaliable to me, and when I found your site I loved it, it was really good just an average dude on his journey to mastery, focused on what we all were improving our pu skills. There were field reports of sarging, quality posts and in general good commentary on the community…not to mention that great IMPARTIAL review on the DYD mastery seminar, back then the community was about a group of people with the same common goal helping each other to acheive it, taking great pleasure in success of your peers and rather than pointing out and flaming shortcomings offering help in getting your peers overcome their shortcomings as after all we were all on the same journey
But the change I see in you is the same change I see in the community…its no longer about pick up skills and improvement its all about politics, reputions, flaming, one upmanship, berating your fellow pua and controversy…with everyone launching products all of a sudden large amounts of money were at stake and this has driven the community down the shithole
The change i’ve seen in you is you are no longer about seduction and improvement and you are all about the community, when was the last time you posted anything about your personal journey, experiences, success, faliures, learnings, growth, field reports etc…and this is YOUR BLOG.
As I say I dont know you but the advice i’d give you for whatever its worth is just refocus yourself on your development set your goals and work to meet them and share your journey on your blog if you wish
The blog used to be about your experiences and your impartial commentary…go back to that, that used to be cool
Its easy to get caught up in bullshit its not you…the whole community has done this, and the limelight the community has been receiving has given people status who have never had it and are nt quite sure how to handle it.
The community is no longer a friendly helpful place…its become a joke full of frustrated losers flaming each other and all the talented REAL puas have insulated themselves and now interact in PRIVATE amongst themselves.
Dude being voted out by 28 to 1 is telling you something…I hope you refocus and get where you need to go…good luck in the future dude…I will be looking foward to the site getting back to what made it good in the past
Thundercat,
Re-read this:
“This is about the time when I stopped visiting the board. It wasn’t fun any more, most of the cool guys I liked had left, and the information wasn’t all that great.”
As much as we love you I’m afraid this board is falling into the exact same thing you are describing above, and unless some action is taken by you, it is condemned to the same fate. It’s your blog man, and some people here want to learn and help others learn. Get the registration thing already. How about doing it today?
If you dont care then why are you making such a big deal?
THUNDER-JUDEN
I’m built like a Chicken McNugget and love to sing monster ballads.
“Nothing lasts forever… in the cold November rain…”
P.S. You can see my girlfriend, Chessclub, compete on the television show, The Biggest Loser, Sundays at 8:00.
“Thundercat I dont know you but have made some observations I have been into the whole seduction thing for to years and have devoured all the info avaliable to me, and when I found your site I loved it, it was really good just an average dude on his journey to mastery, focused on what we all were improving our pu skills. There were field reports of sarging, quality posts and in general good commentary on the community…not to mention that great IMPARTIAL review on the DYD mastery seminar, back then the community was about a group of people with the same common goal helping each other to acheive it, taking great pleasure in success of your peers and rather than pointing out and flaming shortcomings offering help in getting your peers overcome their shortcomings as after all we were all on the same journey
But the change I see in you is the same change I see in the community…its no longer about pick up skills and improvement its all about politics, reputions, flaming, one upmanship, berating your fellow pua and controversy…with everyone launching products all of a sudden large amounts of money were at stake and this has driven the community down the shithole
The change i’ve seen in you is you are no longer about seduction and improvement and you are all about the community, when was the last time you posted anything about your personal journey, experiences, success, faliures, learnings, growth, field reports etc…and this is YOUR BLOG.
As I say I dont know you but the advice i’d give you for whatever its worth is just refocus yourself on your development set your goals and work to meet them and share your journey on your blog if you wish
The blog used to be about your experiences and your impartial commentary…go back to that, that used to be cool
Its easy to get caught up in bullshit its not you…the whole community has done this, and the limelight the community has been receiving has given people status who have never had it and are nt quite sure how to handle it.
The community is no longer a friendly helpful place…its become a joke full of frustrated losers flaming each other and all the talented REAL puas have insulated themselves and now interact in PRIVATE amongst themselves.
Dude being voted out by 28 to 1 is telling you something…I hope you refocus and get where you need to go…good luck in the future dude…I will be looking foward to the site getting back to what made it good in the past
”
I hope you read this again and again, TC, because it’s absolutely TRUE. The ‘Community’ is anything BUT…now it’s just a joke.
It’s nothing but flamers, now (which your site, I’m sorry to say, has done NOTHING but help to promote), and almost NOTHING of constructive use to anyone, new or old.
It’s funny to see all of these guys, who wanted to go AGAISNT the ‘Society Conditioning’, are falling right IN LINE with it. They’ve all degenarated into nothing more then money-hungry ASSHOLES who have no problems with TAKING the money of desperate AFCs who’s only real desire in life is to get up the courage to just TALK to a girl, let alone fuck one. Or stuck up dickheads who’d rather troll the seduction sites and flame everyone in site, instead of GOING OUT, and actually making real progress in becoming the PUAs they supposedly got into this shit to become in the FIRST place.
I trust no one’s word in this community, anymore. The second someone says they’re the best, three or four guys come out of the woodwork to SLAM them.
The whole fucking Ibiza thread turns into a shouting match between Mangus and BradP, WTF! Each one saying the other doesn’t get laid and is full of shit.
I’ve met BradP, he’s a good guy. Does that mean I think he’s as good as he says and Mangus is full of shit?
No! Actually, it means NOTHING. WHY?
Because, I could honestly care LESS if either of these guys gets laid like rockstars or are the kings of the fucking KJs; finding the honest truth to that question will IN NO WAY HELP ME GET LAID, so WHY am I going to waste my time with it.
Is RSD full of shit?
Don’t know, don’t care.
Is Mystery, Style, Gunwitch, David Deangelo, The One, or TC full of shit?
Don’t know, don’t care.
Is everyone on ASF full of shit?
Don’t know, don’t care.
What will answering ANY of those questions truthfully do to help YOU get laid?
NOTHING.
So, why is anyone bothering?
This ‘Community’ is a disgrace.
Peace
The Elusive
I can fit into a training bra and you can’t! ahahahahah! It’s good to be the king!
“It wasn’t fun any more, most of the cool guys I liked had left, and the information wasn’t all that great.”
More like YOU weren’t fun anymore, YOU weren’t a cool guy, and YOUR information wasn’t all that great.
And look at this blog…. it’s the undead ressurection of alt.seduction.fast. All it needs is Ray Gordon and the evil circle will be complete. Oh, what do you care I suppose, it generates hits for ads…. like we give a shit.
The lounge is, at least, free of all the commercial bullshit and rivalries (despite the prescence of posters from different commercial outfits), and the discussions are more mature and advanced than pretty much anywhere else. We’re talking about guys who have already mastered the skills and are now laid-back about them and free to chill out in a community of like-minded individuals. We’re not looking to come up with the next “new money routine” for your educational benefit – nor post the latest porno report for your lunchtime reading pleasure. Community is more important there than posturing or commercial rivalries – which is why you got what you had coming.
The people giving you a kick in the ass are doing it for your own good. Nobody is out to get you or wreck you permenantly. The only person who seems out to get you is…. well, yourself!
TC -
The arguments for and against you when back and forth over the last week.
A big concern was that you never post and thus the Lounge community saw you more as a threat instead of an asset.
There was also discussions of negativity deriving from your blog. As you well know (and your readers don’t), RSD represents a VERY small percentage of Lounge members. The mere fact that you make the argument that the lounge is tainted because of RSD’s involvement makes you look like a fool to anyone well established in the Lounge community.
In addition, no one has any proof that you have been laid recently (or in some poster’s opinions – ever). As you well know, admittance in Underscore is for those that are playing the game, and getting laid. It does not mean people that are important in the pick up community. That is the reason no one could vouch for you.
Your blog used to be filled with POSITIVE pieces. Now it is more of a marketing tool for you and your affiliates which is incredible for you, but a very large security threat to the Lounge.
I am sure you do well. With Neil Strauss starting his own seduction workshop (yes you heard that first here guys…), Dave M, and others, your financial gain will be incredible.
Best of Luck
I get my best lines from obscure films like “Irreversible” and try to pawn them off as my own.
I try to hard to be interesting and misunderstood. I like to see myself as a young and plump Bukowski.
Don’t worry, you still have us TC.
Perhaps what they meant by this blog being “Anti Community” was because of all the frustration and negativity that is allowed, even seemingly encouraged here. Over the last month or so it has gone from minimal flaming of almost every post to Massive flaming and very little of it having Anything to do with Seduction.
A bunch of guys have shown up on the scene with only the ability to throw insults around instead of discussing actual seduction topics.
Alas it is becoming a Ghetto around here. If you encouraged more quality posts instead of just letting anonomous people who probably aren’t even involved in sargeing post crap freely perhaps this blog would be less likely to be deemed anti community. If instead of getting involved and bashing others in the community yourself thus encourageing others to follow suit who knows.
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In other words Thundercat, 2 things.
A) You really shouldn’t give a shit about all the Status and Bullshit postering in the community.
B) But you still should really make this blog into what it’s supposed to be about; Seduction. Get some rules up and get rid of the guys talking about how they wish they could be Ross Jeffries sucking a black mans cock or Religious slams or just plain flaming for no other reason but to flame.
It’s easy.
Establish a log in and rules.
When someone breaks the rules give them a warning.
When they do it again kick them for a while.
If they come back and do it when they are allowed back Ban them.
Stick to a solid set of rules and don’t get carried away by power or personal feelings towards other posters.
I really like the idea that they Voted you out simply because if you were to make this a members site it should be the same way when dealing with members of your site. Votes, democracy and all that.
Cmon TC, the ancient chinese Tao says something about when you have problems with something Start with Yourself and make your Fort Perfect then you can wait for your enemies to make a mistake. Of course if your fort is screwed up the enemy can freely stomp all over you or if you decide to attack them you still get nailed because of poor planning on your own part.
Don’t worry about proving to anyone that your Blog can be a great seduction place. Just do it for yourself.
Geese
You think you know…
…but you have no idea.
-jlaix
Oh, and by the way, you spelled “weird” wrong.
Asshole.
-jlaix
Hey jlaix pick on someone your own size, like Style for instance.
ItВґs your own fault, thundercat.
By the way, i am not the real jlaix.
“Maybe if RSD and MINE’99 ever team up, we could have a real Superfriends Showdown or something like that.В ”
Excuse me, moron, but who was the one who kept WARNING you about Tyler and RSD?
Me? Team up? Dude, I don’t need to team up with anyone. I’ve got my training team, the best in the world.
When I started all of this I NEVER dreamed I would give birth to such a string of bastard children like DeAnushole, Tyler Spermin’, Misery, Gunbitch and the horde of third generation clowns, clucks and crazies that have followed in my wake.
I truly know how Dr. Frankenstein felt.
RJ
P.S. I kicked and banned you for bad mouthing me behind my back instead of coming to me DIRECTLY with your problems and complaints you evil little shit.
P.P.S. I see that your Dad has retired from active duty. Now, if he calls the Art Bell Show and he reveals EVERYTHING he knows about the secret underground alien bases I will fully reinstate your membership on the SS list. Ron? C’mon, fess up what you know about them Martians or Grey’s or whateveryoucallem.
Hey Thundercat.
There is a reason why you were kicked from this “underscore” lounge.
YOU ARE A JOKE.
What have you PERSONALLY contributed to the seduction community?
And don’t say your god damn “art of approaching e-book”.
Every piece of material in there was blatantly stolen from Strauss, RSD, and Mystery.
C’mon TC.
PROVE YOURSELF.
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Ross jeffries is right.
we should give ross more credit since he invented the seduction community. if he had not mystery would have done this, because he was in field before he ever came to a seduction community. think about this.
but still ross is cool and has good material out there. are you a lounge member, ross?
I suggest we vote Thundercat out of this blog.
LOOOOOOOOOOL Ross Jeffries is the funniest PUA out there!!!
Dick sucking aside, your should try stand up….just…ummmm….loose the Steve Urckle glasses
Thundercat–Forget those suckers man we got your back ( although thats a fucking huge place to cover, we still got it)
But seriously, you REALLY NEED TO STOP sucking Neil’s tiny penis…Tyler Turden has told me that his sperm isn’t fat free….that could be the reason why you’re ganing weight…
If you have the balls to say RSD are shady ( which i 100% agree) then u need to stop complaning because Neil “I left the game” Strauss is the BIGGEST SNAKE….
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Hi Ross, how are you?
1) Why do you have issues with each of the guys you name, despite proven results in the field? At the end of the day, isn’t that all that matters at the end of the day?
2) I thought MM was a “complement” to SS and not a spawn. That it is something DIFFERENT. As is Gunwitch actually…I don’t see how Gunwitch can be considered SS.
3) Who are some of the current guys in the Community today that you think newbies should listen to, and follow for success in a WIDE variety of situations with different types of women?
Cheers,
“When I started all of this I NEVER dreamed I would give birth to such a string of bastard children like DeAnushole, Tyler Spermin’, Misery, Gunbitch”
Haha slagging off gunwitch now?
This is from the cliffslist interview you did:
“I think Gunwitch also has a model that works, for him, in the situation he finds himself in, and I think he also has a genuine devotion to helping guys. I don’t think he is in it for the money, he wants to help.
He brings some of his own unique situation into his teaching, with regard to fighting and that sort of stuff, but that’s ok. I think his sexual state stuff, basically what you radiate and do non-verbally, once you have rapport, is fine, but it’s not nearly as good as what you would learn from Kim and Tom about state shifting. But it’s good for what it is and you will get your money’s worth from Gun’s ebook, so if you ARE looking for an ebook, you should probably buy that one. I’ve read it and enjoyed it.”
http://www.cliffslist.com/clifflist/page2d.pl?count=276&subject=SPECIAL%20EDITION:%20%20ROSS%20JEFFRIES%20INTERVIEW&date=Wed%20Feb%20%202%2012:46:47%202005
GUNBITCH 4EVA!
ROSS,
HAVE YOU GOT ANY PICTURES OF THUNDERCAT?
ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW WHAT THIS GUY ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE TO BE SO DEEP IN THE COMMUNITY AND STILL A VIRGIN….
ALSO I AGREE ABOUT THE ALIEN BASES COME ON THUNDERCAT, WHATS YOUR DADS GAME, EH? WHATS HIS GAME?
LOVE THE ASSBANDIT
Will wrote:
“3) Who are some of the current guys in the Community today that you think newbies should listen to, and follow for success in a WIDE variety of situations with different types of women?
Cheers,”
The only person I actively endorse is Stephane Hemon:
http://www.ideagasms.com
The guy understands stuff that most will never have a clue about and stand very firmly against the darkness and sickness being thrown around.
I also think Dimitri and Woodhaven have
some good,working stuff that does NOT rely on stupid routines or having to “down” women, and they are good writers and appear to be good teachers who really care.
I don’t even know the name of their system or website.
Avoid everyone else like the plague. They are all either covered with abusive darkness, imitating Mystery, or ripping off me.
RJ
93/93
Assbandit:
Thundy’s Dad WAS a very high ranking Air Force general with top secret access; he was former head of the Missile Defense Agency.
He probably knows all about the hyper-drive, the captured aliens and all that shit; for all we know, Thundy is the result of an alien hybrid breeding program.
RJ
ROSS,
HAVE YOU GOT ANY PICTURES OF THUNDERCAT?
holy shit, thats fucked up… thundercat probably is…. thats why he can only approach not get laid cos he s got a frickin’ tail or some shit…
I hope Thundy’s dad doesn’t use his top secret military clearance to spy into my bedroom. If he does he’ll find out about the 10 year old ebony boy chained to the foot of my bed.
Yipes!
RJ
93/93
Hey Rababy!
You sound like you mistake Cumsnort’s shit for mousse au chcolat!
Bon appetit!
RJ
93/93
For those who don’t know: I’m only taste asien sperm, you motherfuckers!
“I also think Dimitri and Woodhaven have
some good,working stuff that does NOT rely on stupid routines or having to “down” women, and they are good writers and appear to be good teachers who really care.”
As a personal opinion, I would say that about 80% of their stuff is repackaged stuff from other people.
Not to mention that the kind of women they target and get do not really compell me to part with my $1000.
Hey TC,
I’m new to the community, but from the outside looking in…it doesn’t take a genius to realize that what the other PUAs are saying is right. You say you don’t care, but your actions contradict that. I don’t know what the community was like when it wasn’t commercially driven, but it sounds like it was a great group to be a part of for personal growth. All i’m really saying is, you have the opportunity to do something that can help a lot of guys out there. I find that the posts from the guys in my area on our yahoo group (San Francisco/Bay Area) are a lot more helpful than this place. “Keep doing what you’re already doing and you’ll always have what you got.” Cya
Thundercat,
There are three requirements to being a member at Underscore.
1) You have to be someone who gets laid. You don’t qualify.
2) You have to participate. You said yourself that you were inactive for over a year. Thus again you don’t qualify for pure inactivity reasons.
3) You have to show discretion. Again, you do not qualify. Just the fact that you are loudly and publicly talking about a secret forum proves beyond a doubt that your detractors were correct and that you were not to be trusted. Appeals that might have been possible in the past are now completely off of the table.
It’s unfortunate that you have chosen to react this way, to turn your blog into a tabloid (and a poor one at that), to spew hate at everyone around you, and to clown yourself publicly in such a juvenile way.
Paul,
Yout the biggest two face person i’ve ever seen. You act friendly with mystery and gunwitch then you turn around and diss them behind there backs, using such names as misery and gunbitch.
If i’m mistaken or not didn’t you invite mystery to one of your seminars as a guset/speaker?
At one moment you say good things about gunwitch then you turn around and diss him.
I honestly wonder if you have a quarter and flip it in the air to decide whether you like someone on a given day.
Also didn’t you say thundercat was never a customer/student, well how he can be kicked and banned if he never was one? Do you want me to show you evidence of you saying that he was never affiliated with you?
What new lows have you sunk to Paul? I mean endorsing someone like stephanie semen, a known jerk who makes women squirt pee, come on now paul?
I guess there are two sides to you like bishop said, stop with the multiple personality disorder/flip flopping.
Until you get some help with that, I wouldn’t recommend anyone trusting you for anything.
Oh boy,
TC, If you didnt really cared being kicked out of the Mystery Lounge…then why would you post about it? You could of simply let it go. You said you dont care. Yet you post about it and dude…you where looking from aproval bro. I have meet TC…he is fat like its said here…and Sweats a little too much on room temperature. If he has gotten laid? I donВґt know…but when I meet him he admited to being a virgin still. But who knows…its been 2 years. He should be getting laid….but then again…he wont prove it. Thats why he got kicked out of ML. Shit this is too funny
Ross has been dismembered!
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!?!
wow Neil strauss is back and fucking hot chicks, look !!
http://puapics.white.prohosting.com/style01.jpg
“wow Neil strauss is back and fucking hot chicks, look !!
http://puapics.white.prohosting.com/style01.jpg”
don’t 2 4′s make an 8?
…seriously, i find it pitiful that these guys who were picked and shit on while growing up, now become like the tormentors and cliquesters they were targets for.
Anonymouse Lounge Member said it best: Thundercat can’t get laid, THAT’S the reason he is out of the lounge.
Notice how Thundercat said ‘I’m going on dates’ but NEVER said ‘I’m getting laid.’
He can’t get laid, after all these years in the community.
Pathetic.
that photo of niel strauss is photoshoped just like the pictures of bishop with his “babes”
It’s funny to see how the other so called “instructors” blame Thundercat for not being able to get laid.. With all due respect.. I don’t think anybody in this whole workshop community get laid.. I personally met RSD instructors and they have ZERO game and play on the AFC’s insecurities and bad interpertation. They go to a girl and just because the girl didn’t blow them off, they think the RSD instructors are gods.. fact is they are weird insecure people who didn’t have a girlfriend when all the cool guys did but they moved on. It’s a sad sad world.