Book Review: The Game, by Neil Strauss
September 7, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Okay, by now I’m sure you’re all curious about the book THE GAME, written by Neil Strauss (aka Style, the most powerful of the Jedi).
I received my advanced copy of the book over Labor Day weekend (since I’m in the book briefly, I was sent one early). The first thing you notice about the book is that it’s not your typical hardback book as you’d expect. The cover is actually thin, flexible, and black, the pages are all edged in gold, and there’s even a thin red cloth bookmark located in the spine. In short, the book looks like the typical Gideon Bible you’d find in a hotel room.
And I must say, it’s quite appropriate.
Move over Lay Guide, so long eBooks, THE GAME is the new bible of the seduction community!
A few chapters into this book, I realized that this wasn’t going to be the “tell-all expose” we all were anticipating. This is a book written by arguably one of the best seducers to ever come out of the community, and in it, he shares everything.
I mean EVERYTHING.
All his teachings, all his tactics, all his theories, all his strategies are all laid bare.
Through the course of the book, we start off by seeing Style go from your Average Frustrated Chump to a full blown Ladies Man, and as he documents his progress, it’s as if you’re right there learning along with him. Because of this, I would go so far as to say that is book is a MUST OWN for anyone out there looking to improve with women.
This isn’t just a story. This is a “how-to guide.” A manual on how to pick up women from the best of the best. Forget Cassanova, forget Don Juan, this is stuff that works now, in this day and age, and is applicable to modern women. Not only that, but it’s all based on the tried and tested techniques of the seduction community.
Style pretty much lays out every form and method of teaching there is. He gives you the full Mystery Method, he shows you Speed Seduction, he explains the Juggler Method, Double Your Dating, and David X style. Pretty much every major school of thought is laid bare in here, which makes it a great all-encompassing reference manual for guys who want to know what teachings are available out there.
In the book, Style also shares posts from the private Mystery’s Lounge message board where some of the greats post their best stuff. This is a good way for the average guy who isn’t privileged enough to be part of this private message board to see some of the advanced teachings and spastic ramblings that are shared there.
Then, Style shows you how he incorporates the best teachings from all his sources and created a system of pick-up that works for him.
This is, bar-none, one of the most complete guides on the subject of seduction I have ever seen. In fact, I’d rate it up there along side Robert Greene’s classic “The Art Of Seduction.”
But the real treat of THE GAME isn’t just it’s wealth of pick-up knowledge. No sir. It’s the inside look you get at the personalities behind these teachings.
The book seems to have two different parts to it. The first part, and most of the early chapters, are devoted to the teachings of pick-up and Style’s own personal learning experiences. The other part of the book is devoted to the experiment known in the community as “Project Hollywood,” where the real human drama of the story unfolds.
The first chapter of the book starts off with a bang as we see Mystery, a man revered by all as one of the greatest teachers of Pick-Up out there, have a nervous breakdown after his girlfriend is stolen by his then close friend, business associate, and roommate, Herbal. Style goes into great detail about how he performs “suicide watch” duties as he drags Mystery to a mental health center.
This is how the book starts. Mystery is a loon.
But no more than two chapters later, we see the flip side of this as Style documents his first meeting of Mystery as the man is at his prime, picking up some of the hottest women in the club (including stealing the girlfriend of a TV celebrity who happened to be there right in front of him) and proving to all that he is, in fact the real deal.
So within the first three chapters of the book, we see Mystery at his worst, and Mystery at his best. They’re two sides of the same coin, but the ones that only his enemies and his fans know.
His students see all his greatness and none of his weakness. His detractors see only his weakness and shun his greatness. In the matter of just a few pages, Style shows us how everyone sees Mystery at a glance.
Then, as the book goes on, the gap between these two extremes is filled and we suddenly see Mystery as his friends see him – a real human being. Black and white suddenly blur into shades of gray, and a true and sympathetic man emerges.
This is where I think it’s important to point out that the concepts and teachings Mystery has innovated are real. They work, no one can deny this. And as you read about Mystery’s low points (and believe me, things get pretty low), it can be easy to doubt the validity of what he teaches.
But as the book goes on and you begin to see the picture Style paints of a truly passionate man who comes from a poor home with an abusive father, you realize that it’s these extremes he endures that make him so brilliant. Sure, he has a massive breakdown and has to be institutionalized for his own safety, but he’s also someone who latches onto crazy ideas and molds them into reality. It’s because of these extremes that Mystery is so charismatic, innovative, and gains the loyalty of those who follow his teachings.
Then there’s Ross Jeffries, the “guru of gash” as he likes to refer to himself in the book. RJ is one of the other major personalities in the story, and I must say, reading what Style has to say about his is extremely eye opening.
If you’re a reader of this blog, you know that there is no love lost between Ross Jeffries and myself. As a former student of his, he kicked and banned me from Speed Seduction when I began to question the validity of his teachings. Since then, I have written a great deal about how unstable, petty, and vindictive a man he is in an attempt to warn others about following what he has to teach.
And though Style shows both sides of Mystery, the good and the bad, the book struggles to show anything good or redeeming about Ross. Upon first meeting Style, Ross treats him like a dick. He pathetically tries to “convert” Style to his cult of Speed Seduction (and I’m not putting my words in here, Style really does refer to it as a cult in the book). We also see RJ try to anchor Style into believing he’s a great seducer, all the while extorting and guilting Style into taking him to trendy Hollywood parties he could never get into by himself.
After a rather embarrassing foray out with Ross, where the man ended up making an ass of himself when he got on all fours and sniffed Carmen Electra’s butt, eventually forcing Style to leave the party early because Ross can’t stay out past 10 o’clock at night (it’s past his beddie-bye), Style vows never to take Ross out to another “cool” party again.
This, of course, does not stop Ross from continuing to harass and guilt Style as he does to so many other people.
The picture Style paints of RJ is not necessarily a bad one. He does document how Ross uses Speed Seduction to get numbers from girls, and he never fully comes out and disrespects Ross. But as you read how RJ acts and what he says to Style, you can’t help but get a glimpse of this guy’s true nature.
And then, of course, there’s the other big personality featured in the book, namely Tyler Durden of Real Social Dynamics fame. And needless to say, Style does not paint a flattering picture of Tyler at all.
It is obvious there was never any real “love connection” between Tyler and Style, but Style makes it a point to document all the creepiness and awkwardness he felt around Tyler as he shows RSD blossom from a copy-cat pick-up workshop into a type of cult very similar to the one found in Fight Club (coincidence? Not likely).
In one particularly telling scene, Style describes the first time he hung out with Tyler while juxtaposing a burlesque dancer Style dated who revealed to him she had herpes. It’s almost as if Style is suggesting that even though on the surface, things can appear beautiful and exotic, on the inside there can be a virus that will end up causing you harm. This bit of symbolism wasn’t lost on me in regards to how it applies to Tyler Durden.
There’s one particular scene towards the end of the book that I can only describe as shocking, in terms of how Tyler really treats other people. I think that once people read this book, they will have a very different outlook on the RSD crew.
There are other community celebrities in the book too, including the usual cast of characters such as David DeAngelo, Juggler, Rick H., Steve Piccus, and various others. Many names were changed, either to protect the innocent or because a character became an amalgamation of more than one person. Some of the fun parts for me was trying to guess who a character really was. (Since I know most of these guys, it wasn’t hard for me)
Because of this, I think it’s important to note that THE GAME isn’t a straight non-fiction book. Not only because certain characters have been changed and combined together, but Style also altered the timeline of certain events to make the book read better.
For instance, my original Top Ten PUA List did not come out while Mystery was in the hospital, it actually came out some time after he was released. Ross didn’t get a certain “nick-name” until I started using it on this site some time after the party which Style took him to in the book. Style’s interview with Tom Cruise actually occurred well into Project Hollywood, not beforehand. These are a few things that aren’t necessarily accurate in terms of the timeline of events, but rest assured that everything in the book did happen in one way or another. I say this not only as a witness to a great many of the events documented, but also from first hand sources who’ve repeated to me pretty much what Style reveals in the novel.
Another great joy in reading this book is hearing about Style’s fumbles with women before he really graduated to PUG (Pick Up Guru) status. These are often very funny, such as seducing one girl back to her hotel room only to be put off by her stinky feet, or trying to get two twin sisters into bed at once by taking a rather awkward bath at their place. These moments aren’t just entertaining, but anyone who’s actually gone out in the field, used these tactics, and tried to get them to work can relate to the crazy things that can happen and go wrong when you’re in the final stretch.
I also think this is great because we get to see that Style was not always the expert seducer he has become. He started out just like a lot of us did, and fumbled and failed before he actually started to taste success. It’s important to note that a lot of guys aren’t willing to go through the “failure” part that’s required to get good. But part of what made Style one of the best was his unwillingness to give up.
Another incredibly entertaining aspect of the book comes when Style actually BECOMES good, and is forced to deal with certain obstacles. For instance, there’s a chapter in the book where Style goes head-to-head in a “PUA Showdown” with Hollywood Madame Heidi Fleiss. It’s incredibly entertaining to see Heidi try and cockblock Neil when he’s picking up women, and in return see Neil fight back with PUA tactics that keep Hedi from turning seducing the girls into prostitution.
Then there’s another celebrity showdown with actor Andy Dick, where Style has to keep Andy from stealing his date by whipping out some massive value demonstrations to re-win the attention of his star-struck girl. Of course, this works a little TOO well when Andy Dick, so won over by Style’s tight game, actually propositions him for a little homosex action. (note: Style politely declined)
In fact, there are an awful lot of celebrity cameos in the book. In addition to Heidi Fleiss and Andy Dick, we’re also treated to people such as the likes of Paris Hilton (who Papa sarges and gets a number close with), Brittany Spears (who Style actually number closes after running some game on her), and of course, Courtney Love (who is actually a resident of Project Hollywood for a time).
But probably the most fascinating cameo of all is that of A-List Super-Duper-Movie-Star Tom Cruise, who in a strange way becomes Style’s new guru after he’s reached the pinnacle of PUA-dom and offers him sage advice that ends up saving Style’s soul at the end of the book.
Which brings me to the next part of the review, which is that Style goes into great detail about the dangers and pitfalls the pick-up lifestyle presents those who get involved in it. He shows how addicting it can be, and how some guys can get lost in it, forsaking friends, family, jobs, fortunes, education, and sometimes even personal health in an obsession to become a “master seducer.”
Not only that, but he talks about how easy it is to have your views on women shift to the point where you actually start resenting them. At some point, Style reveals, pick-up becomes about the process instead of the end result. The girl becomes secondary to the technology, and the mindset of manipulation is truly the path to the dark side.
Now, despite all of what I’ve written above, what I am about to reveal next is probably the single, most important lesson Style could ever teach any student or any man who wants to experience true happiness with women. It’s pretty much the moral of the book, the heart of the story, and the greatest thing anyone could possibly learn in dealing with women.
This is Style’s greatest discovery, and the reason why he deserves the title “The most powerful of the Jedi.”
And the funny thing is, it’s not an opener, or a routine, or a neg, or a pattern, or a value demonstration, or a value elicitation, or a cold reading, kiss close, phase shift, and any other piece of jargon you can think of.
It’s a simple truth that most men will discover when they reach a certain point.
We all got into the learning of seduction and pick-up for one reason. Maybe initially it was to “get more sex,” but after adding a few notches to your belt, that falls by the wayside. What we really get into this field of study for is to procure female companionship. Be it a girlfriend or a wife, we all ultimately want a woman who we can be happy with.
You can learn everything there is to know about pick-up and seduction, but at some point when you’re with a woman, you’re going to run out of material and have to start being yourself.
This is where the PUA mentality has its greatest shortcoming.
In the book, when Style finally meets his ideal woman, he suddenly finds himself in uncharted territory. When all his tricks and strategies fail, he’s forced lay everything on the line and just start being himself. The message is clear: Pick up is easy, Relationships are hard.
In the case of Mystery, we see a man who can generate incredible attraction in women almost instantly, but can’t hold onto a girl to save his life. With Ross, we see a guy who can maybe get a phone number, but never a date. With Tyler, we have a person who enjoys the process of seduction so much, that when it comes time to close the deal, he chickens out.
At some point, if you want to really get to the end game, you have to stop being a Pick-Up Artist and become a Man. Here is where Style’s greatest teaching lies…
“To win the game, you have to leave it.”
Simple, yet profound.
If any of us ever get to a point where we’ve done our work, we’ve picked up tons of women and finally found one we liked, we have to stop with all the attraction theory and go for the relationship we ultimately crave. This means making a commitment, not only to the woman you love, but to yourself — that you’ve achieved your goal and you are allowed to be happy.
Being with a beautiful woman does not solve any problems. Too often, guys think that having a hot chick in their bed will make them happy. But as Style proves in his book, it doesn’t. What makes a man happy is achieving his goal and accepting his success, and knowing when it’s time to move on and mature.
This is Style’s greatest gift to the community. This idea. This concept. And for that, we should all be forever thankful.
The Game should be a must-have book for every man out there. I can’t recommend it strongly enough. You should get a copy and read it three times, cover to cover. You will not find better teachings anywhere than what’s in this book.
I guarantee it.
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Your Father: Keep telling us all this insider stuff. I am really enjoying it and learning a lot. The stuff you’re revealing is probably better than Style’s book…
….and that’s the…..
-Truth
Okay, I think its time everyone just slapped out thier penis and see who wins.
TD and Blacksmith are not allowed to join in though cuz you have to have a penis first.
It’s always funny reading other people’s perceptions on here. Truth is correct, actually. I never pulled much at ProHo. I got very good at the initial phases and was always good at the later phases, but still need a lot of work on phase shifting. My goal has never been to pull a lot. I turned down a lot of opportunities, and the few that I did pull were very attractive and LOVED me (most still e-mail or call me unprompted).
Dress in drag? Please. Jazzpua has a grudge because I kicked him out of the lounge. The whole time I was in charge of it, he was the only person kicked out. It was because several people told me he was embarassingly bad, and that was confirmed when I winged a couple sets with him.
That’s all from me… what a ridiculous thread.
FUCK THAT MOTHERFUCKER STYLE. EVERYONE FROM DAVID D. TO MYSTERY TO OTHER TOP GURUS NEVER MARKETED OUTSIDE THE INTERNET BECAUSE THEY RESPECTED THE COMMUNITY AND ITS SECRECY. STYLE IS A SCUMM AND A TRAITOR WHO’D SELL HIS OWN MOTHER. HE PISSED ON ALL OF US WHOSE ONLY HOPE WAS THE COMMUNITY. I’M SURE THAT BITCH LISA PUT HIM UP TO THIS…WILL SOMEBODY FUCKING STEAL HER SO HE CAN GO CRAZY OR SOMETHING N EVERYONE DISRESPECTS HIM??? HE LOOKS SO GAY TOO!!!
Isnt this one of the fastest growning and most posted blog on thundercat’s???
best tyler picture ever !!! he’s so social proofed : check i’ out
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs45&d=05366&f=syndrome.jpg
Hey truth….. just admit it. You’re a scardy little fag who is afraid of going out regularly and afraid of the chicks ignoring your ass…. right? Yeah, I seen the type….. you know….. the fool takes a workshop unable to differentiate the sales hype from the real thing….. probably thinks drinking Mountain Dew will allow you to do outrageous stunts on your bike…. Chumpasses cant tell the difference between the hype and the real thing. So you take the workshop and they tell you all kindsa shit you can try and after taking the workshop, you just stay at home or give it a halfassed attempt at approaching the bitches….. then you say you got scammed….. you fag. If you aint got the balls to deal with some pain from learning how to pickup bitches, then someday, you’ll be that bitter old man in the year 2030 tellin fools how back in the day, Tyler D ripped you off for a few hundred bucks while others with the discipline made the extreme effort to overcome their backgrounds and are fuckin the hotties well into their 70s.
It worksd for others so why dont it work for you? Why does it work for jlaix? If jlaix told you word for word what he says and you delivered it, you’d fall flat on your panty waist ass cuz you ain’t got the experience to deliver it right. You aint got the excperience cuz you a bitter little fag who cant get it up to go out regularly and put that shit into practice. Naw…. you just too busy sittin at home stewin away and hatin on some guy & trying to pin the blame for yoyur failures on him. Booo hoooo, its Tylers fault….. he ripped me off. Then again, I guess chumpasses deserve to be ripped off…. Its funny ya know. workshops are designed to help guys overcome their chumpness, but some chumps are so chumpified…. that which is designed to alleviate their chumpness actually chumpifies dem….. shit, everything chumpifies dem. Buy a Tony robbins book and get a job at Mcdonalds and you blame Tony Robbins for your 8 doolla an hour job. Tyler D ripped Uoff cuz U a chump. & since you aint going out regular to mack on the bitches….. da ones who got game are talking your hoes away from you…. you chump. You AAFC…. above average frustrated chumpass. Well, what can I say…. cuz dats what chumps do….. they lose money, they lose bitches. They just lose all the time. But dont worry cuz I aint gonna call you a loser…. I’ll just call you what you are…. an AF fuckin C……. can’t B cured terminal case of AFCness & dats no lie.
And I can’t wait to read the book!!!!
I find it funny that if you type in ‘The Game’ and ‘Strauss’ into Google, the very first SPONSORED LINK takes you to the RSD website. Hmm…
Is it just me, or do theses seduction ‘experts’ get laid less than the average college age guy?
I was under the impression that most of these guys could pull multiple women a day. After reading this book, I am becoming disillusioned with the community.
Basically, what it comes down to is that Tyler looks like a faggot assed bitch who couldn’t get laid if he crawled up a chickens ass.
Mystery is a sex addicted loon who can’t keep his little dicky from deflating unless he’s thinkin’ bout two dykes eating box.
Rossy Poo is a reclusive balding whiner who doesn’t realize bitches are laughing AT him rather than WITH him.
And the community, in general, is the biggest scam of all time.
Eat dizznick beyotches!
My husband Franco is a total pig. He makes me smell his fingers after he scratches his crotch and forces me look at his shit if he makes “a good one.” He throws me around and makes me trim his toe nails. But I am having the last laugh. I have been fucking a black man in our bed when Franco is at work. I’ve also bed spending all of Franco’s money on this black man and his friends. Our daughter has even begun to call my lover daddy. Anyway, I better get off the computer before Franco gets home…
Chow!
Franco’s Wife
I broke down and bought the book. It is actually presented like a Bible, with golden edged pages, the same material most Bibles use as a cover, and even a little red string to mark your pages. Pretty funny.
So far it makes an interesting read, but he is giving away a lot of the structure, specially MM. A lot of the guys are coming accross in a less than favorable light, though.
>>>>>>>I broke down and bought the book. It is actually presented like a Bible, with golden edged pages, the same material most Bibles use as a cover, and even a little red string to mark your pages. Pretty funny.
So far it makes an interesting read, but he is giving away a lot of the structure, specially MM. A lot of the guys are coming accross in a less than favorable light, though.
Well, no fuckin’ shit, retard. Did you bother to read the initial post? How about even ONE of the following 250+ comments? Ever think about doing that, fuckmouth?
“presented like a bible”
“red string bookmark”
“giving away structure”
“less than favorable profiles”
I mean, Jesus H Christ on a hoovercraft! You are so stupid, mini-dick. What a fuckin’ idiot. Too bad Style didn’t profile your faggoty ass to show you as the complete bafoon you really are.
Here’s to hoping you succeed (suck-seed)! LOL!!
Loser!
I’m not sure but I think RJ is about to sue Style in Federal Court for this tell-all book using trademark infringement as a basis! The drama continues!!!!!!!!
Thundy didn’t have the balls to shit on TD until struass put it in print. Says more about thundy than TD.
“Well, no fuckin’ shit, retard. Did you bother to read the initial post? How about even ONE of the following 250+ comments? Ever think about doing that, fuckmouth?”
Surprise, surprise. Another NERD acting up on the internet. When was the last time you even got a hug from a girl, boy?
Where’s Darwin when you need him?
YOYOYO, get the fuck off Jlaix’s dick. I think you’re the fag. Probably going home tonight to suck RSD’s cock and sleep with their UGs.
I love how losers think b/c they cold read stupid bars sluts all week, that they can cold read on the internet. Yet they are almost always wrong….
..just like our YOYOYO coward…..
….and that’s the….
-Truth
Jlaix? Isn’t he the guy from the Dan Band? Or the guy from that 70s show?
Style is a snitch and rat. Style “the bull” gravano
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well herbal what can I say, when the fun is done it’s time to move on.
i’m not against rsd or mm or anything, but it’s just like style says repeatedly in the book– it tends to fucking robotize you, make you a brainwashed clone.
so that’s why i said i didn’t care before if I was kicked off the lounge because i didn’t want to play a part in discussing game- only in the health and wealth forum, so boot me if you like. dafs
I didn’t care because I just figured the time for you guys as my models and mentors was closing- not that you didn’t have game or anything like that- the opposite. But there is something about game or whatever it’s called that can’t be transfered, or has to come from within. I had completely and totally put your strategies in my mind and now I just have to learn how to manage them
love
jerry
ps i’m getting to the part about katya. it’s a page turner.
pps I remember when Mystery ran the screen (which is good move, imo) that said you had to post a picture of a lay to stay in the lounge, and I posted my recent 3s. that shit was tight. is it a 3some if you do one after the other, but not at the same time?
-Respect
ppps unlike the great grandmaster style or whatever or whoever, i’ve only had one threesome..
but all my friends are like wow, holy shit, you’ve had a threesome, how did you hood that up! And my friends aren’t your average chumps either, by which i only mean to say they are not social losers. they may not be pickup artists but they do help me de-zombify myself
plus i’m still young, i feel i will only get better, faster, wiser with age. same goes for everyone. but last thing I need is another headache that is un-necessary, from gurus who fake or don’t get laid all the time anyway.
I give anyone who teaches seduction credit though- it’s not the most easiest thing to fucking teach- and do be successful at personally, because if you are not, everyone will attack you
so hey,
-respect
“I’m not sure but I think RJ is about to sue Style in Federal Court for this tell-all book using trademark infringement as a basis! The drama continues!!!!!!!!”
If you’re not sure, then why are you spewing this bs?
dont hate Style, hate the GAME
( community)
anyways, if you want a real book go to
http://www.advancedmacking.com/
style and TD are my bitches.
ANTHONY BERGER GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FAT METHODLESS MAGGOT>>SHITHEAD LOOSER USELESS METHOD
I want to live just like Neil Strauss “The Pimp”. I loved the book, the drama, the excitement, the bitches, everything.
Is there a disfunctional house looking 4 an obsessive compulsive room mate???? Hit me up.
The reason Mystery gets girls is because he is HOT, HANDSOME, GQ type that girls go Ga Ga over. The reason Style Neilly Strauss gets girls is because he is rich and has a huge 9 inch cock, the reason Ross Jeffries only gets uglys is because he wants their inner beauty.
Mystery really looks better then he is because he pays a bunch of girls to hang out at bars during bootcamp to look good. Of course Mystery will deny it and even make threats perhaps. But the girls sign non disclosure forms. Remember he knows how to use stooges being a magician like Chriss Angel. But hey go for the hype.
So I just finished reading “The Game” …it was too funny.
just got done listening to podcast #3 over at Charisma Sciences…talks about Juggler’s role in The Game, and about the community in general…highly recommend you checking it out
and no, i’m not affiliated with them
http://www.charismasciences.com/passport/podcasts/CSIpodcast3.mp3
“Mystery really looks better then he is because he pays a bunch of girls to hang out at bars during bootcamp to look good.”
Hey dudes, is that really true that Mystery uses shills?
There’s an upcoming Mystery method bootcamp this weekend in New York.
Guess what? They haven’t even given us the location yet! How the heck are we supposed to get a hotel room and all that good stuff if they don’t have a location?
David DeAngelo has the location booked months in advance. He even has a discounted hotel rate. I can’t even get a return email from these clowns at MM.
” “Mystery really looks better then he is because he pays a bunch of girls to hang out at bars during bootcamp to look good.”
Hey dudes, is that really true that Mystery uses shills?”
It’s true fag. Or you want that there were men?
“Mystery really looks better then he is because he pays a bunch of girls to hang out at bars during bootcamp to look good.”
Same method used by Fidentia. Two ex instuctors of MM,Cameron ‘the_one’ and Seth Parker ‘dreamweaver’, seemed to have learned something valuable from Mystery.
The fidentia guys are ex RSD guys not MM guys.
The “paying girls” rumour comes from OTHER workshops doing shit (it appears to have started from RSD students) when people were reporting that RSD students would rarely get ANY closes on their workshops and then all of a sudden the students started getting closes left right and center. Then Mystery copped it when he started bringing his GF to bootcamps. Then back to RSD again recently with him bringing his GF to workshops.
Seem’s to have stuck more onto Mystery with the idiots on here though.
What’s the truth? Only the guys running the workshops truely know and I doubt they’d tell you if you asked them.
You can really see the groupies on this site, DD groupies, RSD groupies, MM groupies, SS groupies, the occasional GWM groupie, now the start of fidentia groupies. It’s retarded.
Everyone taking gossip and twisting it, spitting it back out. Kinda funny.
Who cares though if it gets results?
MM gets results, can’t argue against that. Put as much negative spin as you like on it, it still gets results.
Funny how you cry “trick” and you most likely came to this community looking for tricks.
Then again, I can also see how some of the guys on here who obviously aren’t getting laid would be jealous of Mystery.
Funny shit.
‘The fidentia guys are ex RSD guys not MM guys.’
They are ex RSD AND EX MM INSTRUCTORS!
Do some reseach.
and yes they use shills at ‘workshop day 3′.
yeah,#close is guaranteed but it’s just not cricket.
I want to live just like Neil Strauss “The Pimp”. I loved the book, the drama, the excitement, the bitches, everything.
Is there a disfunctional house looking 4 an obsessive compulsive room mate???? Hit me up.
Haha… you people are delusional. They don’t use shills.
‘The fidentia guys are ex RSD guys not MM guys.’
They are ex RSD AND EX MM INSTRUCTORS! ”
Actually they are a combination of RSD (Seth) Mystery Method (The One) Badboy Method (Robert) and Natural Game (Shark)
Herbal wrote:
‘Haha… you people are delusional. They don’t use shills.’
Herbal is a personal friend of dreamweaver (Seth) and the_one (Cameron).
Herbal says ‘NO FIDENTIA SHILLS’
yeah herbal we fuckin believe you!
Where’s the guy who knows 2 Fidentia shills personally?He wrote a good post about it not too long ago.
“Who cares though if it gets results?
MM gets results, can’t argue against that. Put as much negative spin as you like on it, it still gets results.
Funny how you cry “trick” and you most likely came to this community looking for tricks.”
Well put, Spongey.
People here bitch way too much and whine over the most minute of details, it’s pathetic. Get off the computer and make your life better.
Is that all you have to say for yourself?
Wow. What a thread. I have just one technical comment:
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Posted by: Guy | Sep 12, 2005 7:57:07 PM
There’s an upcoming Mystery method bootcamp this weekend in New York.
Guess what? They haven’t even given us the location yet! How the heck are we supposed to get a hotel room and all that good stuff if they don’t have a location?
David DeAngelo has the location booked months in advance. He even has a discounted hotel rate. I can’t even get a return email from these clowns at MM.
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For one thing, your email (Kent_8475@yahoo.com) isn’t listed as one of our customers. So I don’t know who you are, but I suspect that the reason we haven’t told you the location of the seminar is because you’re not registered for it
If you are one of our customers, my apologies. In which case, you would have gotten a phone call this week with the location. It appears that a couple of mail servers (aol, hotmail, etc.) have been putting our mail in the junk mail folder. Last I checked, all customers confirmed receipt of our telephone call.
Paying girls?
I know we don’t do that. How do I know? Because in addition to being unnecessary, we couldn’t afford it. Think about it – it’s not Mystery who gets girls at bootcamps. All of the instructors do. Having a couple of hot girls (say 2) per instructor per night, with 4-6 instructors per bootcamp, would be 24 to 36 girls over the course of a bootcamp. In addition to being expensive, that would be unbelievably complicated.
Hey Dude (Savoy),
I think U must be mistaken there… I think
U R referring to the post made by analjon.
An honest mistake, I guess, but hey that’s cool…
You’re right, I am friends with those guys. And because of that I can tell you that neither would hire a girl to pretend to be picked up. It’s ridiculous. Now if they hire a girl to give a guy fashion advice or whatever, that would make sense, but there’s no way they’re doing it secretly.
I organized Mystery’s workshops for a while and we of course never hired any girls to pretend to be picked up. Really if you’ve been in the business it sounds like a completely retarded idea because there’s no point at all. Savoy’s brought a lot to Mystery’s business, but I guarantee you that shills isn’t one of those things.
“I’m not sure but I think RJ is about to sue Style in Federal Court for this tell-all book using trademark infringement as a basis! The drama continues!!!!!!!!”
Last I heard there was a possibility that RJ would be going on ‘Oprah’ alongside Neil to help him fight off the inevitable onslaught from the ‘Feminazi’. Not sure where you get your information from pal, as it would seem that RJ and NS are pretty good friends.
It is extremely easy to pay girls to go to clubs to look good for the bootcamps. Easy and good business. If the bootcamps bring in $15000 spending $4000 on girls is just good business and very EASY logistically. Cheaper then advertising! So much hype, so much bullshit!!