Book Review: The Game, by Neil Strauss
September 7, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Okay, by now I’m sure you’re all curious about the book THE GAME, written by Neil Strauss (aka Style, the most powerful of the Jedi).
I received my advanced copy of the book over Labor Day weekend (since I’m in the book briefly, I was sent one early). The first thing you notice about the book is that it’s not your typical hardback book as you’d expect. The cover is actually thin, flexible, and black, the pages are all edged in gold, and there’s even a thin red cloth bookmark located in the spine. In short, the book looks like the typical Gideon Bible you’d find in a hotel room.
And I must say, it’s quite appropriate.
Move over Lay Guide, so long eBooks, THE GAME is the new bible of the seduction community!
A few chapters into this book, I realized that this wasn’t going to be the “tell-all expose” we all were anticipating. This is a book written by arguably one of the best seducers to ever come out of the community, and in it, he shares everything.
I mean EVERYTHING.
All his teachings, all his tactics, all his theories, all his strategies are all laid bare.
Through the course of the book, we start off by seeing Style go from your Average Frustrated Chump to a full blown Ladies Man, and as he documents his progress, it’s as if you’re right there learning along with him. Because of this, I would go so far as to say that is book is a MUST OWN for anyone out there looking to improve with women.
This isn’t just a story. This is a “how-to guide.” A manual on how to pick up women from the best of the best. Forget Cassanova, forget Don Juan, this is stuff that works now, in this day and age, and is applicable to modern women. Not only that, but it’s all based on the tried and tested techniques of the seduction community.
Style pretty much lays out every form and method of teaching there is. He gives you the full Mystery Method, he shows you Speed Seduction, he explains the Juggler Method, Double Your Dating, and David X style. Pretty much every major school of thought is laid bare in here, which makes it a great all-encompassing reference manual for guys who want to know what teachings are available out there.
In the book, Style also shares posts from the private Mystery’s Lounge message board where some of the greats post their best stuff. This is a good way for the average guy who isn’t privileged enough to be part of this private message board to see some of the advanced teachings and spastic ramblings that are shared there.
Then, Style shows you how he incorporates the best teachings from all his sources and created a system of pick-up that works for him.
This is, bar-none, one of the most complete guides on the subject of seduction I have ever seen. In fact, I’d rate it up there along side Robert Greene’s classic “The Art Of Seduction.”
But the real treat of THE GAME isn’t just it’s wealth of pick-up knowledge. No sir. It’s the inside look you get at the personalities behind these teachings.
The book seems to have two different parts to it. The first part, and most of the early chapters, are devoted to the teachings of pick-up and Style’s own personal learning experiences. The other part of the book is devoted to the experiment known in the community as “Project Hollywood,” where the real human drama of the story unfolds.
The first chapter of the book starts off with a bang as we see Mystery, a man revered by all as one of the greatest teachers of Pick-Up out there, have a nervous breakdown after his girlfriend is stolen by his then close friend, business associate, and roommate, Herbal. Style goes into great detail about how he performs “suicide watch” duties as he drags Mystery to a mental health center.
This is how the book starts. Mystery is a loon.
But no more than two chapters later, we see the flip side of this as Style documents his first meeting of Mystery as the man is at his prime, picking up some of the hottest women in the club (including stealing the girlfriend of a TV celebrity who happened to be there right in front of him) and proving to all that he is, in fact the real deal.
So within the first three chapters of the book, we see Mystery at his worst, and Mystery at his best. They’re two sides of the same coin, but the ones that only his enemies and his fans know.
His students see all his greatness and none of his weakness. His detractors see only his weakness and shun his greatness. In the matter of just a few pages, Style shows us how everyone sees Mystery at a glance.
Then, as the book goes on, the gap between these two extremes is filled and we suddenly see Mystery as his friends see him – a real human being. Black and white suddenly blur into shades of gray, and a true and sympathetic man emerges.
This is where I think it’s important to point out that the concepts and teachings Mystery has innovated are real. They work, no one can deny this. And as you read about Mystery’s low points (and believe me, things get pretty low), it can be easy to doubt the validity of what he teaches.
But as the book goes on and you begin to see the picture Style paints of a truly passionate man who comes from a poor home with an abusive father, you realize that it’s these extremes he endures that make him so brilliant. Sure, he has a massive breakdown and has to be institutionalized for his own safety, but he’s also someone who latches onto crazy ideas and molds them into reality. It’s because of these extremes that Mystery is so charismatic, innovative, and gains the loyalty of those who follow his teachings.
Then there’s Ross Jeffries, the “guru of gash” as he likes to refer to himself in the book. RJ is one of the other major personalities in the story, and I must say, reading what Style has to say about his is extremely eye opening.
If you’re a reader of this blog, you know that there is no love lost between Ross Jeffries and myself. As a former student of his, he kicked and banned me from Speed Seduction when I began to question the validity of his teachings. Since then, I have written a great deal about how unstable, petty, and vindictive a man he is in an attempt to warn others about following what he has to teach.
And though Style shows both sides of Mystery, the good and the bad, the book struggles to show anything good or redeeming about Ross. Upon first meeting Style, Ross treats him like a dick. He pathetically tries to “convert” Style to his cult of Speed Seduction (and I’m not putting my words in here, Style really does refer to it as a cult in the book). We also see RJ try to anchor Style into believing he’s a great seducer, all the while extorting and guilting Style into taking him to trendy Hollywood parties he could never get into by himself.
After a rather embarrassing foray out with Ross, where the man ended up making an ass of himself when he got on all fours and sniffed Carmen Electra’s butt, eventually forcing Style to leave the party early because Ross can’t stay out past 10 o’clock at night (it’s past his beddie-bye), Style vows never to take Ross out to another “cool” party again.
This, of course, does not stop Ross from continuing to harass and guilt Style as he does to so many other people.
The picture Style paints of RJ is not necessarily a bad one. He does document how Ross uses Speed Seduction to get numbers from girls, and he never fully comes out and disrespects Ross. But as you read how RJ acts and what he says to Style, you can’t help but get a glimpse of this guy’s true nature.
And then, of course, there’s the other big personality featured in the book, namely Tyler Durden of Real Social Dynamics fame. And needless to say, Style does not paint a flattering picture of Tyler at all.
It is obvious there was never any real “love connection” between Tyler and Style, but Style makes it a point to document all the creepiness and awkwardness he felt around Tyler as he shows RSD blossom from a copy-cat pick-up workshop into a type of cult very similar to the one found in Fight Club (coincidence? Not likely).
In one particularly telling scene, Style describes the first time he hung out with Tyler while juxtaposing a burlesque dancer Style dated who revealed to him she had herpes. It’s almost as if Style is suggesting that even though on the surface, things can appear beautiful and exotic, on the inside there can be a virus that will end up causing you harm. This bit of symbolism wasn’t lost on me in regards to how it applies to Tyler Durden.
There’s one particular scene towards the end of the book that I can only describe as shocking, in terms of how Tyler really treats other people. I think that once people read this book, they will have a very different outlook on the RSD crew.
There are other community celebrities in the book too, including the usual cast of characters such as David DeAngelo, Juggler, Rick H., Steve Piccus, and various others. Many names were changed, either to protect the innocent or because a character became an amalgamation of more than one person. Some of the fun parts for me was trying to guess who a character really was. (Since I know most of these guys, it wasn’t hard for me)
Because of this, I think it’s important to note that THE GAME isn’t a straight non-fiction book. Not only because certain characters have been changed and combined together, but Style also altered the timeline of certain events to make the book read better.
For instance, my original Top Ten PUA List did not come out while Mystery was in the hospital, it actually came out some time after he was released. Ross didn’t get a certain “nick-name” until I started using it on this site some time after the party which Style took him to in the book. Style’s interview with Tom Cruise actually occurred well into Project Hollywood, not beforehand. These are a few things that aren’t necessarily accurate in terms of the timeline of events, but rest assured that everything in the book did happen in one way or another. I say this not only as a witness to a great many of the events documented, but also from first hand sources who’ve repeated to me pretty much what Style reveals in the novel.
Another great joy in reading this book is hearing about Style’s fumbles with women before he really graduated to PUG (Pick Up Guru) status. These are often very funny, such as seducing one girl back to her hotel room only to be put off by her stinky feet, or trying to get two twin sisters into bed at once by taking a rather awkward bath at their place. These moments aren’t just entertaining, but anyone who’s actually gone out in the field, used these tactics, and tried to get them to work can relate to the crazy things that can happen and go wrong when you’re in the final stretch.
I also think this is great because we get to see that Style was not always the expert seducer he has become. He started out just like a lot of us did, and fumbled and failed before he actually started to taste success. It’s important to note that a lot of guys aren’t willing to go through the “failure” part that’s required to get good. But part of what made Style one of the best was his unwillingness to give up.
Another incredibly entertaining aspect of the book comes when Style actually BECOMES good, and is forced to deal with certain obstacles. For instance, there’s a chapter in the book where Style goes head-to-head in a “PUA Showdown” with Hollywood Madame Heidi Fleiss. It’s incredibly entertaining to see Heidi try and cockblock Neil when he’s picking up women, and in return see Neil fight back with PUA tactics that keep Hedi from turning seducing the girls into prostitution.
Then there’s another celebrity showdown with actor Andy Dick, where Style has to keep Andy from stealing his date by whipping out some massive value demonstrations to re-win the attention of his star-struck girl. Of course, this works a little TOO well when Andy Dick, so won over by Style’s tight game, actually propositions him for a little homosex action. (note: Style politely declined)
In fact, there are an awful lot of celebrity cameos in the book. In addition to Heidi Fleiss and Andy Dick, we’re also treated to people such as the likes of Paris Hilton (who Papa sarges and gets a number close with), Brittany Spears (who Style actually number closes after running some game on her), and of course, Courtney Love (who is actually a resident of Project Hollywood for a time).
But probably the most fascinating cameo of all is that of A-List Super-Duper-Movie-Star Tom Cruise, who in a strange way becomes Style’s new guru after he’s reached the pinnacle of PUA-dom and offers him sage advice that ends up saving Style’s soul at the end of the book.
Which brings me to the next part of the review, which is that Style goes into great detail about the dangers and pitfalls the pick-up lifestyle presents those who get involved in it. He shows how addicting it can be, and how some guys can get lost in it, forsaking friends, family, jobs, fortunes, education, and sometimes even personal health in an obsession to become a “master seducer.”
Not only that, but he talks about how easy it is to have your views on women shift to the point where you actually start resenting them. At some point, Style reveals, pick-up becomes about the process instead of the end result. The girl becomes secondary to the technology, and the mindset of manipulation is truly the path to the dark side.
Now, despite all of what I’ve written above, what I am about to reveal next is probably the single, most important lesson Style could ever teach any student or any man who wants to experience true happiness with women. It’s pretty much the moral of the book, the heart of the story, and the greatest thing anyone could possibly learn in dealing with women.
This is Style’s greatest discovery, and the reason why he deserves the title “The most powerful of the Jedi.”
And the funny thing is, it’s not an opener, or a routine, or a neg, or a pattern, or a value demonstration, or a value elicitation, or a cold reading, kiss close, phase shift, and any other piece of jargon you can think of.
It’s a simple truth that most men will discover when they reach a certain point.
We all got into the learning of seduction and pick-up for one reason. Maybe initially it was to “get more sex,” but after adding a few notches to your belt, that falls by the wayside. What we really get into this field of study for is to procure female companionship. Be it a girlfriend or a wife, we all ultimately want a woman who we can be happy with.
You can learn everything there is to know about pick-up and seduction, but at some point when you’re with a woman, you’re going to run out of material and have to start being yourself.
This is where the PUA mentality has its greatest shortcoming.
In the book, when Style finally meets his ideal woman, he suddenly finds himself in uncharted territory. When all his tricks and strategies fail, he’s forced lay everything on the line and just start being himself. The message is clear: Pick up is easy, Relationships are hard.
In the case of Mystery, we see a man who can generate incredible attraction in women almost instantly, but can’t hold onto a girl to save his life. With Ross, we see a guy who can maybe get a phone number, but never a date. With Tyler, we have a person who enjoys the process of seduction so much, that when it comes time to close the deal, he chickens out.
At some point, if you want to really get to the end game, you have to stop being a Pick-Up Artist and become a Man. Here is where Style’s greatest teaching lies…
“To win the game, you have to leave it.”
Simple, yet profound.
If any of us ever get to a point where we’ve done our work, we’ve picked up tons of women and finally found one we liked, we have to stop with all the attraction theory and go for the relationship we ultimately crave. This means making a commitment, not only to the woman you love, but to yourself — that you’ve achieved your goal and you are allowed to be happy.
Being with a beautiful woman does not solve any problems. Too often, guys think that having a hot chick in their bed will make them happy. But as Style proves in his book, it doesn’t. What makes a man happy is achieving his goal and accepting his success, and knowing when it’s time to move on and mature.
This is Style’s greatest gift to the community. This idea. This concept. And for that, we should all be forever thankful.
The Game should be a must-have book for every man out there. I can’t recommend it strongly enough. You should get a copy and read it three times, cover to cover. You will not find better teachings anywhere than what’s in this book.
I guarantee it.
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“You’re all a bunch of fucking assholes. You know why? ‘Cause you don’t have the guts to be what you wanna be.
You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers, and say “that’s the bad guy.”
“So, whats that make you? Good? You’re not good; you just know how to hide. How to lie. Me, I don’t have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth–even when I lie. So say goodnight to the bad guy.
Come on; the last time you gonna see a bad guy like this, let me tell ya. Come on, make way for the bad guy. There’s a bad guy comin’ through; you better get outta his way!”
Hey Owen, man, chill out… it’s cool; all of US were LSE in Highschool too.
FUCK YOU, HIDEOUS LITTLE CUNT.
YOU ARE OVER.
“My learning lessons:
dont fall in love with someone who isnt bi. I want a GF who needs a GF too.
dont fall in love with a drugy party girl, no matter how hot her ass is. (I do hope her family is OK after the New Orleans thing though.”
LOL!!! Wow, you have really reached a new level of enlightenment there, Bodhisatva!
Every thing’s gonna be O-TAY!!
That little post just illustrated beyond a shadow of a doubt just how neurotic and delusional you truely are! Bravissimo!! LOL!!
Mark my words; arrogance will be your downfall.
Ray Gordon,
Do you still live with your mom?
I’d be cool to hang out with you – if she swallows.
Let me know.
Thanks.
What the hell Ray G….(sez RAGE, am I an MPUA now) i was starting to dig your post until you started with the chess thing.
I play the gamecube.
anyways, i never met Tyler so i can’t really make a positive judgement on the guy, so until I can see with my own eyes that he can pick up a chick and make her wash his dirty undies and cook him breakfast, well then he sux.
What makes him 10 steps ahead of the game?
seriously, i’m not flaming i need to know.
but i bet blacksmith would totally knock that fucker right out of left field, right blacky
If Tyler was what he is said to be then, he should go pop a corkscrew up side styles girlfriend butthole, or at least steal her panties, BTW anyone got a pick up styles GF?
Tyler’s posting on mASF as if nothing happened! I can’t wait for his next workshop. It will fun to AMOG him.
Wow, quite a little tirade this evening Tyler. It’s nice that you even have your mommy Poppa out here taking hits for you. Going for Mystery, the man you stole your material from, and then dodging other questions. Quite impressive, from the master of the AMOG himself!
Although the book may contain true accounts of events that occured. You still should judge someone by your own accounts, and not just off text. To me, i’ll always have the following real life accounts of these men.
Style – Excellent Advisor, seems incredibly genuine, non-try hard.
Mystery – Machine, Analytical, Egotiscial, but in a good way.
Tyler Durden – Forceful, arrogant, but not without his charms. Kicks your ass into vocal projecting, and even asked that i go out and do a set w/ Mystery during seminar when i couldn’t workshop.
Papa – A guy who, even though i didn’t ask, let me crash on his floor, and also take the seminar when i hadn’t registered at all, and just bumped into him at the hotel lobby while getting a job application.
Sickboy/26 – Cool fun guys, who also woke me up at 2am so they could pull a 4-some in the next room, leading me to believe that yes, this game is in fact real.
The One – A Man I didn’t know much about, but grounded in the fact that you didn’t have to be flashy, and solid game is the best game.
So whether or not these guys are assholes, it all depends on what you want to take from them. Take it all with a grain of salt and go Sarge!
~Justlou
aka Peacemaker.
Hey Ray – I could have fucked her as well on Thursday, but I screwed that up – so kick me when I am down. You never know someday I will have a chance to return the favor to you.
Anyway if you are so wise, how do I get out of this jam of standing her up AND not calling. That is my problem NOW.
Obviously I should have fucked her that night…….i fucked up. I guess you never do.
Whatever – the stuff you guys are doing is good – it makes sense and will help. I am not a helpless chump I am just trying to improve.
well then wright a book telling everyone how styles B.S’ing (that means bullshiting) everyone and set the record straight justlou.
I’m not hearing a huge wave of “this guy is fucking us over”
I’m hearing a “oh yeah they did do that shit, wow we’re human afterall, isn’t that just the bee’s knees.”
also, blacksmith sez your making those stories up. Are you gonna let him talk shit like that biatch?
“God save politicians God save our friends the pigs
God save Idi Amin and god save Ronald Biggs
God save all us sinners God save your blackest sheep
God save the good Samaritan and god save the worthless creep”
No One Is Innocent (The Biggest Blow)
The Sex Pistols
Jesus H Christ on a fuckin hovercraft!!
This is hypocrisy. This whole seduction concept is bad and an affront to social mores to begin with. So in order to come off as self-righteous and to make one form of seduction good and one as bad TD becomes the Straw Man…the evil seducer and Mystery and Style as the good seducers. That way if the feminazis or Pat Roberston and the bible pumpers come after you can point at TD and company.
I mean lets face it..Mystery/Style/TD have banged housewives and other guys girlfriends. But now Style has seen the light, he dropped his routines, became himself and now has found his perfect women. Then he advocates guys to drop there tactics and to be themselves. “Be it a girlfriend or a wife, we all ultimately want a woman who we can be happy with.” Ah yeah….thats why sultans have their harem…..Is Style just regurgitating the company line here? The plot line to his book sounds just like the “Tao of Steve” where the pua finds his ideal woman and gives up his womanizing ways (incidentally the Tao of Steve is a true story except the ending isn’t real, the “Steve” in real life has gone on record saying that he still enjoys many women). But then again “The Game” has been optioned as a film …I mean doesn’t anyone see a big dumpster rat running around here?
As far as Mystery’s problems with the project and his ex gf..are these exposed to show him as a good guy? Or perhaps a narcissist?
“God save the sex pistols they’re a bunch of wholesome blokes
They just like wearing filthy clothes and swapping filthy jokes
God save television keep the programs pure
God save William Grundy from falling in manure”
I have to say, Thundercat’s review made me want to read the book. Maybe I’ll read it in Barnes and Noble this weekend( for free), while drinking a cup of over-priced hot cocoa.
Here is what I know about TD. He does seem to lie a lot. He buddied up to Gunwitch and then ditched him for Mystery. He then flamed Gunwitch a lot and caused flame wars that seriously challenged Gun’s reputation. Tyler does seem to try to befriend people and use them for his advantage.
I can’t blame him for ripping off Mystery’s stuff and teaching it b/c Mystery was at my RSD workshop. He was there as a guest instructor and seemed very supportive of their venture.
As for Style, everything I have heard about him has been very positive. However, I do know that he seduced Tyler’s GF (or one of his gf’s) about a year ago. I think Style and Mystery were trying to seduce each other’s women (as some sort of game) , and Style slept with Tyler’s gf, which made him very angry. I know this b/c he warned someone who was visiting to keep their women away from Style and Mystery and explained how to stop them from stealing the guy’s women. The guy then told me b/c I was his friend at the time.
I would like to say that now I feel bad about taking the rsd workshop 2 yrs. ago. Before I felt angry that they didn’t help me, but now I understand better. They weren’t really capable of helping me, and I feel like a gullable fool for believing they could. I am no longer angry at RSD, only at myself…
..but oh well, I am not the first to be scammed…..
….and I won’t be the last……
….and that’s the…..
-Truth
The book is great so far!
I think that the character ‘Extramask’ is really ‘Twenty-six’ in real life.
Barry, you were such a weirdo! Thank god I never had any of your problems. Your a funny mofo.
Is this book gonna be released in India??Thats where i live…cant wait to buy it but i also dont want others here to get their hand on it…
Might get either the US or the UK version here later on….not sure!!
If you guys have any news on it please lemme know!!
*********There’s a lot of people on this thread who have no idea what their talking about in their sudden criticism of RSD’s Tyler Durden. Its unreal how many people are so ready to jump behind anything in print, like its all facts.
—— I suggest you stop getting your information from an entertaining book w/ a financial motivation or
—— Meet Tyler and his crew before you start acting like bandwagon retards.
It goes to support how the majority of people on this board don’t think for themselves and instead rely on this book that they fit in between the Halo tips and tricks guide and the new Harry Potter book.
- John Kennedy
*********
Niceguy, here is how it was explained to me. Just tell them Mystery and Style’s game b4 they enter Proj. Hollywood. Like tell them this guy is going to do magic and say this and this and this, all to get you in bed.
Basically, if you reveal exactly what will happen, it pretty much cockblocks them b/c the girl will see this being done to them and realize what is going on. Active disinterest doesn’t work if she was warned beforehand that that’s their game.
This was actually a genius stradegy devised by TD….
…and that’s the……
-Truth
Damn, no news is good news on my end of this.
Sounds like style said most of the shit I have been saying for years about all these guys.
Tyler is a backstabber and in this game for the money not sex? Hey I didn’t say it THIS time, just the other 90%.
I can link threads of him pre RSD saying GWM is king and he even proofread the fuckin original text!
THEN I can post links of him saying GWM sucks when he is with RSD.
Never a question.
I hear I get a plug/mention or two, they bitch about some dumb ass video drama I wasn’t responsible for, and an uptown yuppie like style calls my method ‘crude’.
Works in 75% of america pal, we ain’t all living in hollywood, thats why my method generates lay reports, not field reports.
Beats all the other “publicity” these guys are getting though I suppose.
By the way Mystery and Style both, never had a problem with either of ya in particular, just the company you kept, so peace and piece.
Gun
(my last message in this thread, any others will be imposters).
Ray Gordan there is no record of you on the USCF ratings, as you are such a chess authority what is your rating? I think it says 1900 on your site but if you can beat 2500s (GMs otb?) it should be far higher. Btw if u wanna a few blitz games on ICC let me know. And as somebody who knows a lot about chess let me tell you that you will never get in the worlds top ten. And a chess identity is hardly what women go for, just check out your local tourney and peak look at the players to see a load of super geeks
| have been in the UK for sometime and finally got an advanced copy of the book yesterday from the British publisher, Cannogate.
I can only make a few comments,having just skimmed it:
1.About Tyler: I told you so. I TOLD YOU SO. I-TOLD-YOU-SO. To all you Tyler junkies who flamed me like crazy while I pointed out the obvious contradictions and lies in his posts, his manipulations,etc: I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO.
2. Style took some cheap shots at my appearance. I don’t have a “hook nose”(shit,I had it fixed as a teenager!),my skin is super-dry, not greasy, etc.
3. Style documents that SS works and that I can pull women HALF MY AGE.
4. Very sad, human and compelling stuff about Mystery, but it doesn’t surprise me.
5. Thought it was very cheap of Style to include a private phone message I left him; especially before I knew he was writing a book and might include it. But, he was accurate in reporting it so I can’t fault it.
6. I didn’t “briefly date a nurse”: Jambie and I were together for nearly a year and I ‘ve just seen her again here in England.
I’ll read the book on the flight home if I can keep my eyes open;I’m pretty beat.
RJ
Just so u guys know…the book is currently on Rank-12 on amazon.com!!!!!
What more can be said? Thundercat hates these guys, a hatred driven by jealousy. And he has this site on which to insult and lie about them, because he’s a fucking asshole.
So what did Papa and Owen do that was so horrible anyway? Most of it so far sounds like garden-variety capitalism and neurosis.
Sounds like a really weak game that Style and most of the others above are using then.
It’s stupid to rely on routines. This is why I prefer direct game; it’s ALL about inner game.
PU is more about frames and frame control than about anything else. Routines are simply ‘tricks’ to communicate frame control, but in reality, if you don’t have the guts to let go of routines and just be yourself, you’re not in control at all.
Real game will always triumph, no matter what so-called secrets are revealed. If your game is 75% routines, you MAY have a slight problem with more shittesting, but even that can be overcome. I see women understanding game as increasing their social IQ, and this only helps avoid ambiguity. This helps me, what about you?
Man, what is that bad smell? Did someone step in dog shit here.
My mistake… it’s just another one of Ray’s thoughts.
Style made me look like a clown because I fucked Lisa while he was in Miami. There I said it. The rest of you KJ’s can get fucked.
Tyler
Mystery, Style, Herbal, TD:
You guys are the biggest lamers ever. Anyone that goes after one of their friends’ girls is the lowest of the low. It just seems to me that you guys have become so one dimensional that all you have left is your ego and lost every bit of integrity. Routine junkies that are afraid to show a speck of their real selves and instead get their fill fucking their friends’ girls. You guys are pathetic.
Consider this a market correction
HEY GUYS DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW OLD MYSTERY ACTUALLY IS COS HE SAYS HE WAS A VIRGIN TIL 21 SO HOW OLD IS HE NOW?
His canned material works: he invented/discovered the whole AMOG thing.
I also read reports where Style tried to steal TD’s girl (there was one in Vegas like that).
This is just a bashing of egos. I am sure Style is all nice on the surface, but I am sure he can be a sob when he wants..he just does it in such away that he he doesn’t get caught.
If you disect any man you will find plenty of crap on them . TD made the mistake of messing with a guy who was an author. On a greater scale thise seems similar to the whole SS thing…with the fall out of RJ, Mark Cunningham and DeAngelo
Nobody is innocent
This blog is like “dorks gone wild”.
“On a greater scale thise seems similar to the whole SS thing…with the fall out of RJ, Mark Cunningham and DeAngelo.”
Is Mark in the book?
Did Style mention Swinggcat in any part of this book? Is Swinggcat in the book? If not, I’ll pass.
Swinggcat is in the book pseudonymously. Grimble seems to be an amalgam of Swinggcat and CraigSD (mostly Swinggcat tho).
zarathustra_fi that sounds great man does she wear a gimp suit with a big red pool ball in her mouth tied with a big black leather strap. do your kids see her like this?
Too bad most of the photos I see of the “Gurus” and their so called Hot Babes are just a bunch of nerds with mediocre chick who wear a lot of makeup. I’ve been disenchanted with this community ever since I hung out with the local lair and found a bunch of try-hards with low standards.
Since its pretend to be Tyler Durden day. Thought i’d join in.
haha but honestly, u never know how psycho the nerds who study seduction are until u spend time reading the comments on this blog.
The people here are waaay sicker than all the guru’s combined.
Over a 100 comments simply because we are such gossipy loosers who cant attarct women to save our life and instead enjoy arguing about it.
Since its pretend to be Tyler Durden day. Thought i’d join in.
haha but honestly, u never know how psycho the nerds who study seduction are until u spend time reading the comments on this blog.
The people here are waaay sicker than all the guru’s combined.
Over a 100 comments simply because we are such gossipy loosers who cant attarct women to save our life and instead enjoy arguing about it.
“To win the game, you have to leave it.”
Truer words have never been spoken. The obsession so many guys who get sucked into this stuff have for “routines,” “openers,” and the technology of “the game” is obscene, and really will screw you up over time.
Consider the fact that THE most successful guys with women, the coolest, hippest, baddest guys are NOT in the “seduction community.” They’re out there, living their lives.
The goal of this stuff should be to get yourself together and then be one of those guys out there living your life and not paying attention to all the buzzwords and BS. I’m going to buy this book. Thanks, TC
Personally I think you guys are all doing great work. I have learned a ton in two weeks. I wasn’t that hard up but again with this stuff I feel dangerous – and only after two weeks.
Anyway I am through page 80 of The Game – while I love the info I really hope no one reads it. I doubt it will change much, but if it does that sucks.
I will update you, eventhough you guys don’t care, on the hooters girl when I call again tomorrow and tell her she needs to be more positive about our relationship so she can sleep at night instead of thinking about me…..should be good for a laugh.
Don’t hate the new guy trying to break in, I am a decent guy in NYC just trying to join you guys.
don t be apologetic to gordon he does n t belong here either nyc he s just got A LOT of time on his hands and as for this franco guy above i think someone should tell the FBI
I cant be bothered to read all of the comments here, but i can say one thing is for sure, you lot need a slap, its cos of you that tyler doesn’t post so much on ASF anymore and i am damn certain i have learnt more out of his posts than anyone elses on there
i have never seen/heard/read tyler slate anyone (and in my mind it that means he hasn’t done it) all i have seen is help an advice from him
Thundercat this is the first time i have visited this site in about 8 months and i remember reading it last time thinking how much flaming and bickering and gossiping there was going on on here. sort it out you utter bitch, jeez
Hey Boitoi get out in the field and off MASF. That will help more than Tyler ever could.
This site is just for those that want to have a little fun while at work
Man i was talking to blacksmith about this subject and he’s been telling me about how tyler also eats babies and slaps mimes becuase of his inate hatred of magicians. who knew?
so is tylers reputation going to be ruined from now on?
It’ll be okay if it is though cuz there’s always a great career waiting at mcdonalds.
as for the game, even if its out and theres all these players and shit now. I’ll still get laid even if you guys don’t.
And whats wrong with creating a few sex slave’s here and there? If mark cunningham can do it why can’t zarathustra fi.
I’ve mentally brainraped women all over and its cool they get over it eventually.
remember women are the enemy, its like a spiritual mindset to have.
how s your mother silk c?
Who is steve p. and Rasputin? in the book are these fictional characters? Never heard of them.
Ahahahah, Good Lord, I think I have tears in my eyes right now…
THIS is what you had to learn from “the most powerful of the Jedi?” You should have listened to Shark 3 years ago when he burst onto the scene and you wouldn’t have had to waste your time learning backturns and negs and false time constraints while waiting for a journalist to investigate and discover it all over for you! Hahahaha, this is too funny, oh my God…
“A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” -ws
You know what this means, don’t you?
If Mystery and Style are Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker in the book, and TD and Papa are The Emperor and Darth Vader, then that makes me Boba Fett.
I’M BOBA FETT BITCHES!
-jlaix
you bastard,
Fine i’ll be han solo
thundercat can be jabba the hutt
Ray Gorden is Jar Jar binks
Tyler is C-3PO
Blacksmith is Da’bomb
That is not the real Jlaix. I am.
Don’t you see what happened here? I TOLD td and papa to do all that shit, so I could take over RSD. I planned it all along.
Now excuse me, a luscious warpig awaits! Oh wait, I better get “wasted” first! -drinks- ahhh. Better.
Fuck all of you!
-jlaix
No. I am the real jlaix.
These comments hurt me deeply, as I am quite sensitive and caring. Stop being meanies!
-jlaix
I fucking hate Star Wars.