Energies of Good & Evil
May 6, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
This post by Tyler isn’t really too focused on tactics, but I think it’s a great post none the less. It has a lot to do with energy and how it affects us and others around us. I don’t know about you guys, but I do believe in energy. I think it’s something that’s present in every day life and you can see it and feel it.
Sure, this pushes the boundary of crazy new-age wu-wu, but regardless, I think there’s some great information in this post. And Tyler’s analytical writing style gives you lots and lots to think about.
Tyler Durden writes:
NOTE: Not heavily pickup related – I posted this from the journal entry that I made earlier today, as it is linked to my inner game and related lines of thought for those interested.=========
I wonder what evil is? There are so many forces in the world, and many of them social. I’ve become so indifferent to social pressure that I suppose I view it as no different than bad weather or rats and insects running around causing trouble. A force of nature. I don’t take anything personally. It makes me sad sometimes though to see so many guys and girls so socially fucked up. It takes over their mind and squews their perception of the world.
It seems like people have different thought processes, and they cause the same experience to be perceived differently. So many memes and misguided thought…. Negative energies -
-insecurity
-rage
-neediness
-jealousy/envy
-maliciousness
-self-centerednessWhy does someone go out of their way to disparage someone else? Why do they let their emotions get the best of them? Its as if their internal states are fucking with them, like wires crossed the wrong way and firing in all the wrong directions – manifesting the machine in so many misintentioned ways.
I see so much of this on a daily basis. I can feel it through the people that I interact with. Many of my friends suffer from this. Many girls that I sleep with suffer from this. The majority of people emanate these qualities. I put so much effort into being a together and worthwhile guy, and I tolerate these people around me because I have to in order to meet my goals. In the process I empathize with them, and see the good in them as well. That only makes it that much more sad, because you see what potential they could have had under different circumstances.
In the past, I used to take it personally and seek out justice towards it. I’d want to make my position known on it. I’d want to call it out. Now I just sit there and let it run its course. The deciding factor is whether or not I will benefit from putting effort into addressing the situation. If I don’t benefit, I ignore it. I’m more focused on running my game. What I mean by game is anything that I’m playing at. Business, sex, school – whatever. These are all games that I play, and I view them as such. Some guys say “It’s not a game” and so on, but my thought is that viewing it that way helps to keep things in perspective. Unless its health or family, its a game that you could remove from the equation and you’d find something else. I like to play games, and I’ve noticed that I tend to play them very hard.
Sometimes the problems that I see really start to get to me. I constantly see people lowering eachother’s status, to benefit themselves. Back when I was a kid, I’d see this and really not understand it. I was very innocent, and I still feel that way sometimes. I couldn’t understand why things that should be so simple had to be so complicated. I still don’t I suppose. I feel very bad for people who don’t know how to deal with the forces in this world, and feel even more so for the people who cause these problems because I know that its a manifestation of the types of qualities that I listed above. They don’t do it intentionally. They’re simply controlled by their internal dialogue. They’re too weak to avoid succumbing to it.
The more successful that you get, the more people will try to fuck with you. I’ve been successful in many areas growing up, and I’ve seen this trend constantly. I don’t feel anger or resentment towards these people, and I definetely don’t take it personally. I wish I could help them and sometimes I wish people would do more to help me. I’ve noticed a tendency to go obsessively at whatever I do and get to an expertise level, where I don’t really have many people that I can consult with for help anymore. That’s a scary thing, because I find myself so wrapped up in a certain context that achievement in that context becomes my reason for getting up on a daily basis. At first, you learn something and you spend all of your time trying to emulate the masters. But eventually you exceed the masters, and you have no place to turn for help anymore. You may have people who indulge you and tolerate your rambling while you bang ideas off of them, but that’s the extent of it. That’s when the real anxiety kicks in, because you begin to wonder if you’ll ever actually solve what you set out to solve. So many greats in the world died before achieving what they wanted, and it was up to the successors to finish the work. They never lived to that out though. I look at the game right now, and I see how utterly amateur it is. The best guys are complete amateurs. I’m definetely included in that category. They think of themselves as good because they compare themselves to others. But in reality, they allow social context to taint their perception, because being the best compared to others isn’t the same as being the best in terms of actualizing your full potential. As people we strive to actualize our potential to give meaning to our lives. On a subjective level we create the contexts that give meaning to our existence, and then play the game within the arena that we’ve created for ourselves to occupy our time and take our mind away from the vexing misunderstanding of our finite limitations. I suppose that in many ways, reaching a masterery level is where the real fun begins. It’s where things get really interesting and intense.
I often feel saturated by the negativity around me. At one point, 2 years ago, I moved out to a house in the country with no neighbours. It was very quiet and peaceful, and I spent a lot of time on my own quieting my mind down from the years of negative social energy that I’d been exposed to. This really centered me and put things into perspective I suppose. Now I’ve returned into society and learned to navigate and find my bearings with more clarity.
Still, I see the people around me and see how misguided they are. I see people drinking and using drugs and fucking themselves up, as a means of pattern interupting their brains to get away from the negative the kinds of negative thought patterns that I’ve spoken about here. I’m around people who have so many social calibraters that have no other purpose than serving as manifestations of their fucked up personal issues. Girls who party too much or steal or lie. Guys who out-alpha eachother for no reason other than to elevate their status or alleviate their insecurity. People in general who get angry at everything because their frustration with the events around them catalyze all of their insecurities and resentment to come to the surface, and disengage their mental suppression of it to a point where it comes up and manifests itself in selfish hateful actions and all that. I feel like shaking them until their blinders come off and they could see themselves. Like “You’re so FUCKED UP! Pull yourself together! This is so un-fucking-necessary! Stop and actually look at yourself for a second! You don’t see it?!”
You’ll see people controlling frames on eachother, out-alpha’ing eachother, or just plain insecurely dispararing eachother. It’s a perpetual cycle. I just sit there and look at it and wonder why God had to create a world like this. It makes me sad, but I hold it together. I know that I’m separate from it. It’s not me. I never wanted anything like that. I sought only to understand it and to adapt to it, rather than being a loser and withdrawing entirely. I see it and just look at it like a kid. And yet, I can’t judge. When I was a kid, I made the same adaptations and did the same kinds of things. I remember making fun of a retarded kid and thinking it was funny. I remember fighting with other kids in retaliation to things that they did to me. I did it because the negative energy was infecting my brain and I was reacting. But yet I was just as part of the process as the next guy. Facilitating it and promoting it. It’s like the negative energy spawned and perpetuated, and bangs around and multiplies. I can’t let it suck me in. The depression and the anxiety and the alienation and the loneliness.
I suppose now that I more just lay back and understand it with greater clarity. My social intuition is fine tuned and I can see everything as its happening in slow motion. I can feel the stream of subcommunication all around me, and I can tune into what I’m putting out myself. I feel the inflections and intentions behind the voices and movements. I feel the sub-meanings and internal dialogues behind everything. Like a world of competing energies flowing around me. It’s hard at times to keep my focus. Other times I find my intense renunciation of external forces can help me to reinforce and re-acknowledge focus.
This year I travelled to so many amazing places and seen so many things. I’ve been so fortunate to be exposed to some of the best. I feel the same way about the various art and culture that I’ve been exposed to. I’ve had amazing teachers and friends that have pushed me, as have the environments and ideas that I’ve been exposed to. And I’ve seen myself at rare times really achieve excellence and really feel connected on some larger level to the amazing things around me. I suppose that’s one of the major factors that drives me. I look at role models of mine like Pierre Trudeau or Winston Churchill or my most important philosophy professor Arthur M. Sullivan, and I can sense that they move through the world in the same way. Enjoying and appreciating the best, and keeping in perspective that which is the worst, as just another force of nature.
I am so fucking hungry to achieve. I feel the drive to keep going and going. I set my mind to something and I just hustle. I don’t care about comfort or food or sleep or anything. I’m so fucking hungry. I want to leave something behind that lasts forever. I have no fear on this earth other than the risk that I might fail. I accept and live with that risk, and perpetually push against it. I want to live a full and rich life and feel the pain of it as equally as the pleasure. I want to enjoy them both equally. By leaving a legacy I want to tip the energy of the world in a positive direction.
I look at the people who allow themselves to be affected by the negative energies, and take their life in a direction that succumbs to their internal infection. They are wrapped up in social validation and hedonism and validation. They seem blind. And yet, they have established a context within which they live, as have I. I am no different than them. I’m just more melodramatic and contemplative about the whole thing.
Needless to say, this post has gotten a good numbe of replies over at mASF. If you want to check it out, be sure to do so by clicking here.
makes me kinda self conscious…
wow. TD should post more of this stuff.
OK several comments
Tyler, you sound a lot like me in many respects.
As for people being negative and stuff, it occurred to me a few months ago what it all was about. . . people are making themselves feel bad about something. Like Jealousy, that’s been a big one for me especially when it came to success with women . . . I’d see a hot girl out with a guy, and I’d get jealous, and one day I thought what a minute . . . what is this? I don’t currently have a hot girlfriend, so I’m deciding to feel bad about it? At that point it seemed almost like a bad idea to feel jealous. Self pity and the such became and FELT irrelevant . . . go figure. (Jealousy and neediness takes away from my game also, we already know girls can SMELL desperation / neediness a mile away)
In many respects I feel bad for these people who go through the crap they do. It’s sad because so many of them never take sufficient time to a step outside of themselves and soberly analyze their situations from the perspective of an outside viewer – mainly because they are so stuck inside of themselves – thus a form of self centeredness.
Things like
-insecurity
-rage
-neediness
-jealousy/envy
-maliciousness
-self-centeredness
In my opinion are forms of selfishness / self centeredness, and a poverty mentality and or lack of clarity.
Now, my best friend Eric, is really good with girls . . . and he DOES NOT suffer from any of these, in fact he’s a really playful, optimstic, zest for life kind of guy, with somewhat of an abundance mentality when it comes to women (Thus he ends up naturally attracting them more than having to run game on them, let alone approach). It’s funny to use the word suffer, because these negative feelings , or behaviors don’t really happen to a person, the person has created them inside their selves – thus they ARE the insecurity / rage etc, etc. I’ve noticed it’s a lot more productive for me when I’m out for the purpose of going in set, to be in a positive mood. I also think about my past successes, in fact I have several lists of things I am grateful for including in my past successes. (It’s good to read these before you go out). Now why are these lists important? Because you become / get what you focus on . . . SOOOO if I focus on the things that I want (it’s even worse for you when you a) want something and b) feel shitty about not having it yet – those 2 factors alone will and have killed my game on numerous occassions) then I am focusing on things that I don’t have yet, remember you become what you think about SOOOO, . . . . it’s important that I realize what I want is already here, and reading these lists of stuff I’m grateful for helps reinforce that. The thing is, which is strange, is that your thoughts if you think about them enough, eventually take on a life of their own, and exist in your reality. Thus I focus on the positive, and all things I’ve been blessed to have received and experienced.
ONE LAST FINAL THING . . . there’s an interesting phenomenon about paradox . . . here’s one that’s POWERFULLY true . . . The Secret To Getting is To Give . . . at the NYC seminar Mystery talked about how his life took off after he started focusing on Giving after seeing what was always in it for him . . . and if you always focus on what’s in it for you – self centeredness – you will live a life of scarcity – believe me I’ve been there to the depths of gut wrenching misery . . . So help others, not only will you end up receiving, and in many ways getting more than you gave, it will also get you outside of yourself – and able to deal better with your own stuff. It’ll help you on many levels. That’s a key secret, get outside of yourself by helping others. When you help others, you get better yourself, and in many instances you get more than you gave . . . and that’s what these PUA who run seminars and workshops do. And it especially happens, when they’re not on the clock helping people.
Cheers,
Vega
All those negative feelings:
-insecurity
-rage
-neediness
-jealousy/envy
-maliciousness
-self-centeredness
are based on an Scarcity mentality. We are insecure that we are going to be able to get the satsifactors that we need. We have rage because of our frustration to get what we need. We have needines because we see what we want as a scarce resource. We have envy of people that can get the scarce resources we can’t. We are malicious as a way to try to get what we want, or to deprive people of what they want so that we feel more adequate. We are self centered thinking on what we need, that is so scarce.
Scarcity is one of our buttons that we all share that people uses to get what they want from us.
I agree with Tyler on his observations, however, I don’t see how he can put himself over all this:
“I just sit there and look at it and wonder why God had to create a world like this. It makes me sad, but I hold it together. I know that I’m separate from it. It’s not me.”
He uses this scarcity mentallity to make himself “scarce” at the eyes of the girls; He out-alpha other amogs to get them insecure and needy of the scarce resource that is the pussy, He is not, as he claims, “separate from it”.
Tyler, you have given a lot freely to the community, much more than any “guru”, we all appreciate that and are thankful and inspired.
Keep the good work going.
the labeling for evil and good is also coming from the OVERALL FRAME of DUALITY…seeing the difference between this and that…what is supposed to be righteous and what is not…what is good enough, what is not…
that’s what reality is here on earth as human beings…in my opinion and this is only my opinon…after we die when we move beyond human life to realization of our spiritual essence, i believe that we move beyond that…and see beauty of god everywhere including the so called good and the bad…
the labeling for evil and good is also coming from the OVERALL FRAME of DUALITY…seeing the difference between this and that, heaven and hell, what is supposed to be righteous and what is not…what is good enough, what is not…
that’s what reality is here on earth as human beings…in my opinion and this is only my opinon…is that after we die we move beyond human life to realization of our spiritual essence, i believe that we move beyond that…and see beauty of god everywhere including the so called good and the bad…
Tyler,
I’m one of those people who have many fucked up wire crossing in one’s head. A LOT has happened with girls to get me to this point. The problem is one can’t just chose to ignore emotions.
I believe we can control them to a certain extent but some emotions like (what we consider justifiable) jealousy or anxiety (over the girl you connected so deeply with and after a year of knowing each other tells you she loves you and truly -so you know there’s reason for it, not BS, and then she messes with your “best friend”). It shakes you’re schemas and views of the world and faith in people that you counted on to motivate you in this world.
In this example, I know that there’s nothing like the presence of a woman to help you forget about the absence of another. That is one of the things that helps keep you going and not ruminating on negative thoughts. But for someone who keeps trying with women and just doesn’t know anyone really good with women that goes out sarging, they don’t have that tool. Can’t raise their self-esteem and move them beyond all that BS that they’d rather not have…
I’d love to be the way you’ve described. It’s what I used to strive for as a teen actually, but then had these bad experiences and it’s got me stuck.
Just a perspective from one of those people you mentioned…
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