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		<title>The BootyCast Episode 6 &#8211; Who&#8217;s Got Personality?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Sorry today&#8217;s episode is so late.  I had a number of technical difficulties that caused me to waste a lot of time trying to get it uploaded to the server.</p>
<p>This week&#8217;s BootCast episode comes in at a brisk 1:51:34.  In this week&#8217;s episode, we talk about:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ross Jeffries Devil Worship</li>
<li>PUA Business Stuff</li>
<li>Gunwitch Thinks I&#8217;m Mad At Him</li>
<li>The CEO Of Stylelife Is A Douche</li>
<li>Using Personality To Attract Women</li>
<li>Tyler Stepping Down As RSD Figurehead</li>
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		<title>Tyler Durden Leaving RSD?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thundercat</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did Edward Norton just shoot himself in the face or something? Tyler Durden writes: Alright so probably by now you&#8217;ve heard I&#8217;m wrapping up with my role as figurehead of RSD and moving into self help. If you&#8217;re not a regular reader of RSDN then you probably guessed it based on the content of this&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2008/08/25/tyler-durden-leaving-rsd/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><center><div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 261px"><img title="Edward Norton" src="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/images/Fight_Club_05a.jpg" alt="Is Tyler Durden Finally Finished?" width="251" height="167" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Is Tyler Durden Finally Finished?</p></div></center></p>
<p>Did Edward Norton just <a href="http://realsocialdynamics.blogspot.com/2008/08/potential-final-bc-events.html" target="_blank">shoot himself in the face</a> or something?</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Tyler Durden writes:</strong><br />
Alright so probably by now you&#8217;ve heard I&#8217;m wrapping up with my role as figurehead of RSD and moving into self help.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not a regular reader of RSDN then you probably guessed it based on the content of this blog.</p>
<p>This has been a conflict for me personally because &#8220;personal transformation&#8221; and &#8220;pick up artistry&#8221; are intense passions of mine and I love teaching bootcamps. Funny enough I actually consider teaching bootcamp my &#8220;time off&#8221; because I enjoy it so much.</p>
<p>Regardless I have to take this next step which will likely limit my future availability to, well, pretty much nothing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mwuahahhahahahahahhahahah mwuahahah mwuahahahhahahahahahhaha&#8230;</p>
<p>*Ahem.</p>
<p>MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH</p>
<p>MWUAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
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<p>*Cough *Cough</p>
<p>Mwuahahaha!<span id="more-1189"></span></p>
<p>Okay, its no secret I don&#8217;t like Tyler.  In fact, his involvement with RSD, along with that of Papa&#8217;s, is pretty much the only reason I DO NOT recommend Real Social Dynamics to ANYONE.  Because those two guys are probably two of the unhealthiest people one could possibly learn from, next to Ross Jeffries himself.</p>
<p>So because of this news, here are my official predictions:</p>
<p><strong>1.  RSD is not long for this world.</strong></p>
<p>Now, I could be wrong about this, since it is possible for the company to keep on trucking, but Tyler was the rock star that attracted the crowds.  I know for a fact there has been some strife between him and Papa Cho for a while now, and that the two of them were unhappy working together, so its unsurprizing that Tyler has decided to break off to do his own thing.  Without Tyler at the forefront, I doubt RSD will have the market presence it currently does.  Honestly, I don&#8217;t think Jlaix, Timmy, or Alex have the charisma it takes to head a company like RSD.</p>
<p>And knowing how Papa is, he&#8217;ll probably mismanage the thing into the ground within a year without Tyler&#8217;s celebrity and content to help him out.  In fact, I&#8217;m willing to bet most RSD instructors jump over to help Tyler out with his &#8220;self help&#8221; project and leave RSD floundering in the cold.</p>
<p><strong>2.  Tyler is not &#8220;quitting.&#8221;</strong></p>
<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 209px"><img title="Self Help" src="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/images/fight-club-still.jpg" alt="A Still Of Tylers First Self Help Seminar" width="199" height="141" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A Still Of Tyler&#39;s First Self Help Seminar</p></div>
<p>Tyler made it apparent that he&#8217;s &#8220;stepping down as the main figurehead&#8221; of the company.  But what does that mean?  From his post, it sounds like he will be withdrawing from all workshops, bootcamps, seminars, and product creation.  But he never said he was &#8220;leaving.&#8221;  So he&#8217;ll still own part of the company, and might continue to cultivate his influence and cult-like leadership qualities behind the scenes of RSD, like among the instructors and the message boards.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how involved Tyler is in the Day-To-Day running of RSD&#8217;s business, but if its anything like it was back in the day, its probably minimal outside of posting rambling pieces of content and acting like a spaz.  But I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll stick around to keep the troops rallied, since his lifestyle is basically supported by RSD still, just to make sure his income doesn&#8217;t disappear.</p>
<p>In fact, he may be able to get away with even MORE nefarious behavior now that the spotlight isn&#8217;t on him.  *shrug* I guess time will tell.</p>
<p><strong>3.  Tyler Will Seek To Re-Invent Himself</strong></p>
<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 125px"><img title="More Self Help" src="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/images/fight_club1.jpg" alt="Tylers New Role As A Self Help Guru" width="115" height="174" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Tyler&#39;s New Role As A Self Help Guru</p></div>
<p>With his move into a new (but related) arena, Tyler opens up his audience to women as well as men, and he also alleviates a lot of the criticism aimed at him in doing so.  Now, the focus isn&#8217;t about getting laid.  It&#8217;s about &#8220;feeling good about yourself,&#8221; some which Tyler, for all his faults, is very good at.</p>
<p>The guy maybe a sociopath, he may be a weasel, he may even be a maniacle megelomaniac&#8230; but he&#8217;s charismatic, and he no doubt can get people riled up in a good way.  So I predict Tyler will be successful in his move to the self help arena.  He no longer has to lie and exagerate his success with women.  He can accept the adulation of men without guild or scrutiny.  And he can focus on meaningless philosophies instead of tactics which actually work &#8211; all of which will play to his strengths.</p>
<p>I would not be surprized to see the &#8220;rebranding&#8221; of Tyler Durden start very soon after his &#8220;Final Bootcamp&#8221; which he is most likely doing to help finance his start in the self help arena.  He&#8217;ll have a new name (well, chances are he&#8217;ll use Owen Cook, his real name, but whatever), he&#8217;ll have a new company, and a new philosophy on life.</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll try and distance himself from the community and go with a more &#8220;clean cut&#8221; and &#8220;metaphysical&#8221; image, rather than a &#8220;player&#8221; persona.  Why?  Because that will allow him to become more &#8220;God-like,&#8221; which was always Tyler&#8217;s goal.</p>
<p>But more than that, I think Tyler knows he&#8217;s getting older, he&#8217;s losing his looks, and its getting harder for him to lie about his skills at picking up women &#8211; not only due to the fact he has a girlfriend, but due to the fact that since he was never very good, its only going to get harder as he gets older (and balder).  That&#8217;s not to say he COULDN&#8217;T get chicks as a chubby, balding, aging sociopath.  I just don&#8217;t think he wants to put in that kind of effort anymore.  And why should he?  When it would be easier for him to become all woo-woo and rake in the dough without any of the criticism?</p>
<p>Seriously &#8211; enough people are coming out of the woodwork with the Truth about Tyler and his lies and shady practices.  You have Barry Kirkey, who by all accounts was Tyler&#8217;s best friend for a while.  You have the criticism revealed right here on this blog.  You have the scathing critique of his practices in The Game, and of course, the fact that Neil Strauss and Mystery, two of the biggest names in the business, who think he&#8217;s a tool and a liar.  Finally, you have a greater and great number of other big time seduction gurus who speak ill of him behind closed doors.</p>
<p>Now that the truth is getting out and more people are turning against him, I think Tyler saw it as time to move on to an arena where he CAN&#8217;T be criticized, and can play to his passions and strengths.  Will he be good at self help?  Probably.  All you need to be good at self help is some writing skill and a charismatic stage presence.  Tyler certainly has those.  Will he be able to fool people into thinking he can help them improve their lives?  Most definitely.</p>
<p>Will he ACTUALLY deliver any value to his students other than exciting speeches and high-minded philosophy articles disguized as products?</p>
<p>I doubt it.</p>
<p>But hey, what do I care?  This doesn&#8217;t affect my life any, other than maybe meaning I don&#8217;t have to write about this loser as often.  Maybe if he improves himself enough he&#8217;ll be able to come to me and appologize for being a douchebag when I counted him as a friend.  That would be a good start for his &#8220;new path,&#8221; if you ask me.</p>
<p>But I get the impression Ross Jeffries will actually get laid by a non-hooker before that happens.  (And we all know how long it&#8217;ll be for that to take place!)</p>
<p>Anyway, syanora Tyler.  Good luck building your new cult.</p>
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		<title>BootyCast Episode 4: Number 5</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thundercat</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey guys, This week&#8217;s episode of the BootyCast has special guest Brad P. from BradPPresents.com. Issues covered in this week&#8217;s podcast&#8230; My appearance on the Barry Kirky show (again) Devil&#8217;s Threesomes &#38; Johnny Wolf New Sex Terms The Looks Vs. Personality Debate How Brad P Got Started Teaching Dating Advice Thundercat&#8217;s Top Ten List How&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2008/08/15/bootycast-episode-4-number-5/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
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<p>This week&#8217;s episode of the BootyCast has special guest Brad P. from <a href="http://www.bradppresents.com" target="_blank">BradPPresents.com</a>.</p>
<p>Issues covered in this week&#8217;s podcast&#8230;</p>
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<li>My appearance on the Barry Kirky show (again)</li>
<li>Devil&#8217;s Threesomes &amp; Johnny Wolf</li>
<li>New Sex Terms</li>
<li>The Looks Vs. Personality Debate</li>
<li>How Brad P Got Started Teaching Dating Advice</li>
<li>Thundercat&#8217;s Top Ten List</li>
<li>How Brad P Met Tyler Durden</li>
<li>Blog Reader&#8217;s Questions For Brad P</li>
<li>The Similarities Between Brad P&#8217;s Routines &amp; Dean Koonts Novels</li>
<li>The Real Man Conference In Amsterdam</li>
<li>PUA Action Figures</li>
<li>Upcoming Free Teleconference Call</li>
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<p>This week&#8217;s podcast runs 2:56:47 minutes.  You can download the Podcast by <a href="http://media.looks-dont-matter.com/The%20BootyCast%20Episode%204%20-%20Number%205.mp3" target="_blank">clicking here</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/22/03 Someone on the DC list asked a pretty good question about approaching and fear of the approach. They talked about how hard it was to approach women initially in SS. I think this is a pretty valid point, because the first stage in anyone&#8217;s development as a&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2004/02/04/initial-fear-of-the-approach/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/22/03</p>
<p>Someone on the DC list asked a pretty good question about <a href="http://www.artofapproaching.com" target="_blank">approaching</a> and fear of the approach.  They talked about how hard it was to approach women initially in SS.  I think this is a pretty valid point, because the first stage in anyone&#8217;s development as a seducer or pick-up artists is to learn how to approach girls.</p>
<p>Speaking as someone who comes from an SS background, I can feel for guys who are going through this.  IMO, SS is one of the WORST systems for helping guys learn to cold approach.  When I was just doing strict SS, I could not cold-approach to save my life.  In fact, some of the best Speed Seducers I know cannot cold approach.  They get most of their lays through social circles or the internet.  That said, cold approaching is just very hard in general.</p>
<p>The best way to get over this, in my opinion, is to attend an in-field workshop.  I know there was one in DC recently taught by Tyler Durden.  Nothing helps more than having live, in-field instruction and demonstration by experienced people who can help you troubleshoot and guide you through the process.  The only people doing this currently that I know of is Tyler Durden, Mystery, Badboy, and Harmless, who will be starting his workshops up in the coming months.  That said, workshops are very &#8220;shit or get off the pot&#8221; in their nature.  They will kick-start you into approaching, but they are NOT very conducive to mental masturbators and armchair seducers, so be sure you are prepared for it.</p>
<p>Short of that, hooking up with other guys who do this stuff is the best way to go.  I know a lot of guys in the DC area are getting together on a regular basis to wing each other, which is a great way to learn.  I started up my own lair in LA to help me out.  Sometimes, just having others to talk to about this shit is good to help increase your skills.</p>
<p>The hardest part about approaching is just overcoming that fear of rejection.  We all become so conditioned to avoiding emotional pain, that we get that knot in our stomachs every time we are about to talk to a girl we find attractive.  The best guys I&#8217;ve seen at this have no fear of approaching because they are able to detach themselves from the outcome.  Whenever you see a beautiful girl you wanna bang, you give her a lot of sexual power over you, which you then have to go about trying to regain in order to effectively sarge her.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m doing in my game right now is getting to the point where I do not feel the need to give the girl that power.  Where my inner game has hit such a level that I do not have to get validation from a girl.  Its a tough thing to do, and something I&#8217;m struggling with.  But all I have to do is look at someone like <a href="http://www.enlightenedseduction.com" target="_blank">Zan</a>, who is completely free of all that bullshit, to the point where he naturally attracts people to him.  Its a very powerful and congruent way to live your life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably talk about this more later.  Right now I gotta run.  Gonna hang out with my brother and his hippy friends.</p>
<p>Thundercat</p>
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		<title>Harmless, Movin&#8217; on up to the *SOUTH* Side</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thundercat</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/20/03 Hey all, New-kid-guru-on-the-block Harmless has just announced his arrival in Austin Texas on mASF. I know he plans on starting up his seduction business soon and is looking to start teaching workshops in the coming months, which should present a nice alternative to the Tyler/Papa Real Social&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2004/02/04/harmless-movin-on-up-to-the-south-side/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/20/03</p>
<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>New-kid-guru-on-the-block Harmless has just announced his arrival in Austin Texas on <a href="http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/" target="_blank">mASF</a>.  I know he plans on starting up his <a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com">seduction</a> business soon and is looking to start teaching workshops in the coming months, which should present a nice alternative to the Tyler/Papa <a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2006/04/17/rsd-exposed-part-i/">Real Social Dynamics</a> workshops which are going to go up in price soon.</p>
<p>Thundercat</p>
<blockquote><p>Topic: In Austin Now (1 of 3), Read 159 times<br />
Conf: &gt;&gt; General<br />
From: Harmless reinhen27@yahoo.com<br />
Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:50 AM</p>
<p>Yo.</p>
<p>I made it to Austin. Alive. In ONE night. 17 hours. I&#8217;m sore, tired and cranky. BUT&#8230; It&#8217;s time to teach these Austin ho&#8217;s who their daddy is. Don&#8217;t worry, my pimp hand is WAY strong.</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to come up to Austin to sarge with me, let me know. I should point out that I&#8217;m going to be VERY poor for the first month or so, but it&#8217;s still on.<br />
&#8211;</p>
<p>Harmless<br />
harmless@reenhanced.com</p></blockquote>
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