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		<title>The Top 10 Pick Up Artist Of 2009!</title>
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<p>But more than that, I base my rankings on more than just sheer skill at picking up women.  The criteria for the rankings are simple:</p>
<p>1.  <strong>In-Field Performance.</strong> This is basically the skills the PUA displays in the field with women.  Most Top 10s deal with this factor exclusively, but I’ve found that just looking at a guy’s in-field performance can be misleading, since people have off-nights or can get lucky.  That said, their ability to use the techniques in field repeatedly and consistently to get results is a big, big factor in the ranking process.</p>
<p>2.  <strong>Innovations.</strong> This is what new outlook or techniques the PUA brings to the table.  It’s easy for any new guy to get good using Mystery Method or any other school of seduction, but then again, that stuff is designed to work!  So being innovative and bringing a new twist, spin, philosophy, technique, or whatever to the mix is also a big deal, because that means the PUA actually has something to contribute to his students and the community as a whole that no one else does.</p>
<p>3.  <strong>Teaching Ability.</strong> This is how effectively the PUA can teach what he does to other people, and have them get similar results.  This is another important factor, because it weeds out the people who are just the lucky naturals, and finds the PUAs who have something to offer humanity as a whole.  After all, I don’t care if a guy gets laid a lot.  I care if that guy can get ME laid a lot – and I think the same is true for you.  That is why I factor in the PUA’s ability to teach others into the ranking.</p>
<p>4.  <strong>Contributions To The Community</strong>.  This is a measure of how much the PUA “gives back” to others in the seduction community.  This factor is all about the PUA’s willingness to help others, the knowledge and experience he’s willing to share, and the compassion he shows to those who need help.  Too many PUAs look down on people not as successful with women as they are, and that’s not what the seduction community is about, so giving back to it should play a factor, in my opinion.</p>
<p>5.  <strong>Philosophy</strong>.  This comes down to the PUA’s outlook on life, women, and other men in general.  It’s about how they live their lives, and whether they’re consistent with it.  Some PUAs spout great philosophy, but don’t really believe in it or practice it.  But it’s that core foundations which will influence their students, so I believe this is important in factoring the rankings.</p>
<p>6.  <strong>Likability</strong>.  One of the things I base my ranking on is whether I actually like the PUA or not.  This is a subjective thing, but I feel its important, because there’s usually a reason I don’t like someone, and that reason has to do with them being a fake, fraud, evil bastard, or what have you.  I like to think I have a fairly decent “B.S. Radar,” so when I meet a PUA in person, I can usually tell if they are legit or not after getting to know them, which is why I tend to rank PUAs I have actually met in real life.  If I haven’t met them, I need to get good feedback from at least 3 sources I trust to make the decision to rank them in this category.</p>
<p>Okay, so now that you know how I rank the list, let’s get to it!<br />
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<h1>The Top 10 PUAs Of 2009!</h1>
<h2>1.  AFC ADAM</h2>
<p>We have a new #1 this year, up from #2 last year, and it is my great pleasure to announce that the top pick up artist of 2009 is AFC Adam Lyons.</p>
<p>Now, this might come as a surprise to many people out there, especially considering that Adam is one of the few pick up instructors out there who is actually married, but hear me out here&#8230;</p>
<p>First of all, Adam is one of the rare PUAs out there that is an innovator.  He&#8217;s personally responsible for coming up with some of the most exciting new material out there when it comes to meeting women and picking them up.  His lectures on &#8220;Meta game&#8221; alone can rival anything Mystery would lecture about back in the day, and his methods have proven to be effective time and time again.</p>
<p>Adam is also probably one of the most widely traveled PUA instructors operating today.  Not only has he run bootcamps around the US, but he also does numerous workshops overseas as well, proving that his methods work internationally.</p>
<p>In addition to all that, and probably one of the biggest reasons why he won out for the top spot this year, is that the students at Adam&#8217;s bootcamps get some of the most amazing results I&#8217;ve ever seen at any bootcamp anywhere &#8211; and consistently at that.  It&#8217;s not unusual for his students to get some type of close at his workshop, some of which have even boasted a 100% close rate &#8211; in which every single workshop student either made out with a girl or had sex within the time period of the bootcamp.</p>
<p>This is also reflected in the enormous amount of good reviews that Adam and his workshops get consistently from students.  Adam is able to tailor his teachings and his approach to help his students get great results.  Does that mean every student Adam gets is 100% satisfied?  Probably not, since some guys out there have a hard time learning these methods, but from my experience, a ton of guys out there, and the majority of the people who take an AFC Adam bootcamp, are happy with the attention they received and the results they got.</p>
<p>Adam has also gotten a lot of press in 2009 &#8211; good press which is a positive reflection on the Seduction Community in general, from TV appearances to full page profiles in major magazines, Adam&#8217;s savvy media skills prove that pick up isn&#8217;t sleazy or sexist, but can actually be healthy for both men and women.</p>
<p>But most of all, Adam is also responsible for personally training a HUGE number of PUA&#8217;s who teach other rival companies workshops.  Not since Mystery have I met a PUA who was personally responsible for spawning so many pick up instructors.  If you&#8217;ve taken a workshop from any company, chances are you&#8217;ve met an instructor who was trained by AFC Adam Lyons.</p>
<p>Probably the biggest criticism I can think of about Adam being the #1 PUA in the world for 2009 is the fat that he is married.  It can be argued how can one have a Pick Up Artist who isn&#8217;t able to actually pick up women?</p>
<p>Again, this is where my list differs from most.  I don&#8217;t just look at a PUA&#8217;s ability to get numerous women to sleep with him.  To me, there are many other factors that play a pivotal role in my rankings.  But to me, getting married is NOT a strike against a pick up artist.</p>
<p>I believe that a PUA who has a girlfriend or a steady relationship of some sort is a sign of mastery.  The fact that AFC Adam not only got married this year, but got married to an amazing (and beautiful) woman is a huge sign of the level of relationship mastery this pick up artist has achieved.  After all, what is the point to mastering one&#8217;s love life if that love life is nothing but a stream of meaningless one night stands and shallow relationships that don&#8217;t bring either party any sense of lasting happiness?</p>
<p>To me, finding a great girl and falling in love and getting married is extremely END GAME.  Adam not only found a great girl, but also continues to teach PUA with her help AND support.  What other PUA can boast that type of achievement while continuing to have a have a healthy relationship?  (Answer: not many!)</p>
<p>And though Adam is married, he is still able to demonstrate his teachings to his students effectively.  Sure, he may not be the &#8220;uber-pua&#8221; he used to be, rolling into clubs with 40 women at a time, all of which were competing to sleep with him, but that doesn&#8217;t make his methods any less effective.</p>
<p>Because of all this, and the fact that my interactions with Adam continue to prove that he is a well balanced, intelligent, and god natured human being, leads me to give the crown of the world&#8217;s #1 PUA of 2009 to him.</p>
<h2>2.  Brad P.</h2>
<p>Last year&#8217;s number one falls to the number two spot this year, not because his skills have diminished at all, but because Adam just brought his A-Game in 2009.</p>
<p>Brad P. is still an incredibly innovative PUA, and I would argue that he&#8217;s &#8220;de-throned&#8221; Mystery as the figurehead of the Seduction Community.  Not only is Brad aon the forefront of teaching workshops here in the US, but he&#8217;s also mastered the art of helping his students reach amazing results.</p>
<p>In fact, Brad&#8217;s biggest achievement this year comes in the form of his Pick Up Mansions, where his students live in LA with almost daily interaction with instructors where they&#8217;re taken out to clubs in Hollywood and taught everything they need to know about getting super hot women.</p>
<p>Brad actually took me on a tour of the two Pick Up Mansions operating in Hollywood, and I must say, I was quite impressed.  In a way, it sort of reminded me of the days of Project Hollywood, only the houses weren&#8217;t as nice and there was far less drama and way more girls involved.</p>
<p>Like Adam, Brad is also training quite a formidable stable of qualified instructors, though they seem to be only working within his business at the moment as opposed to the numerous people Adam has trained which moved on to chase their own fame as Pick Up Instructors.</p>
<p>Like Adam, Brad&#8217;s workshops consistently get great reviews, and Brad&#8217;s skills as a pick up artist are sharper than most people&#8217;s I&#8217;ve seen in this industry.  And unlike most PUA&#8217;s, Brad doesn&#8217;t have an ego about his skills.  He freely admits that Pick Up is hard, and he doesn&#8217;t always get the girl he wants, but he never stops trying, and that kind of truthfulness is extremely refreshing in an industry where PUAs continually overexagerate their prowess to get more male applaumb.</p>
<p>On the training front, Brad still boasts one of the best darn seduction products on the market &#8211; his 30/30 club, which I personally think is amazing.  Brad&#8217;s focus on quality never ceases to amaze me.  He actually turns away students for his 30/30 Gold club because he can only give so much personal attention!  It&#8217;s this dedication to his students and sheer skill in the field that makes Brad one of the top PUA&#8217;s of 2009.</p>
<p>And who knows?  Maybe next year he&#8217;ll be able to reclaim the #1 spot.  I guess we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<h2>3.  Neil Stauss (&#8220;Style&#8221;)</h2>
<p>A mainstay of the Top 10 retains his number three spot this year, though in sheer individual skill, Neil has never been anything less than #1 in my book.  But again, my rankings go by many other factors than just individual skill, which is why I ranked Adam and Brad above the &#8220;Master&#8221; pua Style.</p>
<p>Neil&#8217;s Stylelife Academy continues to teach numerous students amazingly effective techniques straight from Neil&#8217;s playbook, and they have also started putting on live seminars to help teach people how to live full and well-rounded lives.  For that, Neil must be commended, but even with all that, Neil himself has been relatively absent from the community this year.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a criticism, since Neil is a professional author as opposed to a professional pick up artist and has other responsibilities, but gone are the times where we&#8217;d see Neil posting his latest adventure, technique, or criticism on a public forum, which is a real shame.</p>
<p>However, like most master PUAs, Neil does have a new girlfriend who he has been having crazy, wile, sexual adventures with.  Neil has even boasted to me how he has regular threesomes, foursomes, and even FIVESOMES (all women, of course) now, which has pretty much zapped his motivation to go out and pick up.  Not that I can blame the guy!</p>
<p>It used to be Rick H. was the gold standard by which one would judge PUA orgies.  Now it seems that title is going to belong to Neil.</p>
<p>Neil&#8217;s books also continue to recruit new blood into the community on a daily basis, and he&#8217;s truly solidified his position as a &#8220;Grand Master&#8221; of the seduction community.  Hopefully 2010 will bring us more vintage Neil.</p>
<h2>4.  Cajun</h2>
<p>Cajun is one of two Love Systems instructors who made it onto this year&#8217;s top 10, and in my opinion, it is long over due.  Cajun is probably most famous for his appearance of the TV show &#8220;Keys to the VIP,&#8221; where he showed his skills in club approaches in a competition setting.</p>
<p>That was early in his career though.  Since then, I&#8217;ve heard about how Cajun has come a long, long way.  I actually got to meet Cajun in Las Vegas this year at the annual Love Systems Superconference, and was quite impressed with the vibe I got off him when I did.  Unfortunately, I did not get to hang out with him as much as I would have liked.</p>
<p>However, I have heard from numerous sources that Cajun is the &#8220;real deal&#8221; when it comes to not only being a solid instructor, but a tried-and-true pick up artist in his own right.  I&#8217;m also hearing rumors that he&#8217;s developing some of his own techniques to fit within the Love Systems &#8220;Mystery Method-esque&#8221; style of pick up.</p>
<p>So Cajun debuts at #4 based on his sheer skill and prowess as a pua, and his ability as an instructor.  I&#8217;m hoping I can see more of him in 2010.</p>
<h2>5.  Mystery</h2>
<p>I debated including Mystery on this year&#8217;s list or not.  I don&#8217;t think it can be disputed that Mystery is a great pick up artist, but 2009 did not seem to be his year.  His VH1 show got canceled, and it would appear his fame hasn&#8217;t helped his game much.  I&#8217;ve heard numerous reports from various sources that his reputation as a &#8220;Pick Up Artist&#8221; has made it very difficult for him to actually pick up girls in clubs here in America, who recognize him and prefer to run away as opposed to giving into his shtick.</p>
<p>This may explain why Mystery is spending most of his time in Thailand now.  But not all is bad, the cancellation of the TV show has forced Mystery to teach more workshops in 2009, and no matter what you say about Mystery, you can&#8217;t deny that he&#8217;s a darn good teacher.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really hoping Mystery comes back to his roots in 2010.  It would be nice to see him actually get excited about pick up again, and engage with the community at large.  Sure, he&#8217;s a daddy now, and that seems to have grounded him, but I miss the Mystery I knew in 2004 and 2005, and I really hope he can make a comeback soon, because that guy revolutionized the seduction community.  Can he do it again?  I sure hope so.</p>
<h2>6.  Swinggcat</h2>
<p>Swinggcat has always been a bit of an enigma in the Seduction Community.  He started off as the top &#8220;hypno-seducer&#8221; in the community, and eventually branched out into his own style of pick up, which has proven to be extremely successful.</p>
<p>But with his branching out, he has also removed himself from the seduction community at large.  Its very rare to find a post from him in any of the forums, even though he&#8217;s known to keep careful tabs on what people are writing.</p>
<p>But in actual, individual skill as a pick up artist, few come close to Swinggcat.  His ability to go out to a club and get laid is rivaled by few.  He&#8217;s not only a master of the &#8220;in-venue&#8221; close (read:  dragging a girl into a bathroom, closet, or alleyway and having sex), but he&#8217;s also quite good at getting one night stands by pulling girls back to his appartment.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also able to get threesomes quite easily, and goes out to the clubs on an almost regular basis.  But 2009 has also seen Swinggcat branch out.  He&#8217;s not only started training instructors in his methods, but he&#8217;s also flirted with teaching in-field workshops, which up to now only a select few have been privy to.</p>
<p>If Swinggcat continues to grow as a teacher and engages more in the seduction community at large, I can see him climb the rankings next year very easily.</p>
<h2>7.  Luke Krogh</h2>
<p>To be honest, Luke probably deserves to be ranked higher on this list than he is, but in terms of experience and reach, the others just outrank him.  However, in skill, Luke can probably play with the best of them.</p>
<p>One of the things I like about Luke is that he&#8217;s an extremely effective PUA, even though he&#8217;s overweight, has a bad complexion, and would not be the typical image of a &#8220;pick up artist.&#8221;  In fact, I&#8217;d say Luke is the epitome of the &#8220;Looks Don&#8217;t Matter&#8221; argument when it comes to picking up women.</p>
<p>Luke is AFC Adam&#8217;s top instructor, and his apprentice.  In that respect, Luke isn&#8217;t really an innovator, but he has figured out how to get Adam&#8217;s teachings to work for him.  He&#8217;s famous for his AMOG techniques for blowing out the (often better looking) competition and running away with their women.</p>
<p>But Luke is also getting lots of play in clubs and strip clubs, often pulling girls directly from the venues for nights of crazy, wild, monkey love.</p>
<p>On top of all that as a skilled PUA, Luke is also an instructor on many of AFC Adam&#8217;s bootcamps, and his students are usually incredibly impressed with his teaching abilities.  That&#8217;s not to say Luke doesn&#8217;t suffer from the A.D.D. that seems to plauge most PUAs, but at least he&#8217;s able to get most of his students a result, and he&#8217;s got real world experience to back that up.</p>
<p>If Luke can start innovating more and continue to refine his teaching techniques, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if we&#8217;d see the next big PUA superstar.</p>
<h2>8.  Keychain</h2>
<p>Keychain came as a big surprise to me this year.  I had never heard of the guy before attending the Love System&#8217;s Superconference this year, and when I first met this Love Systems instructor, I was unsure what to make of him.  The guy looks like a scrawny, British, almost less-annoying version of Carrot Top.  In fact, he almost comes off as effeminate when you first meet him.</p>
<p>But after seeing him lecture at the event, I could see that not only is he probably one of Love Systems best lecturers, but he also has a very firm grasp of the concepts and techniques surrounding the pick up arts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also told his skill level as a PUA is quite good too, though I unfortunately did not get a chance to see him in action myself this year, but I have sources who assure me the guy is the real deal.</p>
<p>Hopefully I&#8217;ll get to see and hear more from Keychain in 2010.  He&#8217;s definitely one I&#8217;ll be keeping an eye on.</p>
<h2>9.  Glen P.</h2>
<p>Glen P is one of the few PUAs who made it on the list this year that I did not get to meet, and the only PUA on the list that I have actually NEVER met at one point or another.</p>
<p>So it speaks volumes that everyone I talk to about him is incredibly impressed with Glen&#8217;s skill as a Pick Up Artist.</p>
<p>Glen is an instructor in the Brad P camp, and supposedly he has a style which is mostly his own.  Students rave about his prowess as both a pick up artist and an instructor, and I&#8217;ve even heard hidden audio recordings which showcases Glen&#8217;s ability to cold approach and pick up anywhere.</p>
<p>One of my goals for 2009 was to meet Glen P in person, but unfortunately that just did not happen.  I&#8217;m sure that Glen probably deserves a higher spot on the list, but the fact that every bit of info I have on the guy is from second and thrid party sources makes that kind of hard.</p>
<p>However, his legend and reputation is growing.  Who knows?  Maybe 2010 will be the year of Glen?</p>
<h2>10.  Asian Playboy</h2>
<p>This year&#8217;s list rounds out with that of Asian Playboy, one of the few successful Asian pick up instructors.  I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of meeting Asian Playboy a few times, and I&#8217;ve always enjoyed it.  But his skill as a pick up artist and a businessman seems to be growing as time goes on.</p>
<p>I have it on good authority from more than a few sources that Asian Playboy is out in the field almost CONSTANTLY, which is always a good sign for a guy who teaches Pick Up.  Also, his specialty in picking up &#8220;white women&#8221; seems to be why his appeal is growing in the asian community.</p>
<p>Asian Playboy is also becoming a lot more media savvy, gaining more mainstream exposure for his methods and his business.</p>
<p>I did not get to hang out with Asian Playboy in 2009, but I don&#8217;t doubt that there is no better Asian pick up artist out there.  Can he compete with the other PUAs on this list?  Quite possibly.  Hopefully 2010 will bring us more from the Asian Playboy camp.</p>
<p>So there you go, true believes, this year&#8217;s top 10 PUA list!  I&#8217;d like to thank everyone reading this for supporting my blog, even though it hasn&#8217;t been updated in forever (something I&#8217;m making a resolution to correct this year!).</p>
<p>And for those of you who want to be considered for the top 10 next year, here are a few guidelines you&#8217;ll want to consider&#8230;</p>
<p>1.  Be innovative!  Don&#8217;t just copy someone else&#8217;s style.  Come up with something that is uniquely your own.</p>
<p>2.  Make contributions to the community.  This can be in the form of posts, lair meetings, workshops &#8211; anything where you help guys improve their lives.</p>
<p>3.  Promote healthy relationships.  Show that you can have a steady girlfriend or a healthy relationship with a girl.</p>
<p>4.  Check your ego.  If other people talk about you, you&#8217;re probably good.  If you&#8217;re the only one talking about you, you probably suck.</p>
<p>5.  Try and meet me in person.  I very rarely rank someone I haven&#8217;t personally met at some point, and there is a reason for that.  If you want to seriously be considered for a 2010 ranking, we gotta meet up &#8211; preferably in LA, so I don&#8217;t have to travel.  <img src='http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it!  Happy new year everyone!</p>
<p>Thundercat</p>
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										</div>Welcome one and all to the Top 10 list of best Pick Up Artists for the year 2008! 2008 was a strange year &#8211; for me personally, and for a lot of others, I think.  In many ways, I&#8217;m glad the year is over.  But regardless of how good of a year it was, there&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2009/01/09/the-top-10-pick-up-artists-of-2008/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
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										</div><p>Welcome one and all to the Top 10 list of best Pick Up Artists for the year 2008!</p>
<p>2008 was a strange year &#8211; for me personally, and for a lot of others, I think.  In many ways, I&#8217;m glad the year is over.  But regardless of how good of a year it was, there were many people in the seduction community who continued to rise above petty squabbles and drama and actually help other men improve their lives and their success with women, and this list is a CELEBRATION of those men, who have helped others throughout the past year.</p>
<p>For those of you new to the list, let me explain how the rankings work.  It becomes very easy to get &#8220;caught up&#8221; in the hype of certain personalities, so I try and rank the Top 10 based on a number of criteria, which I believe must be present to be considered a good &#8220;PUA.&#8221;  So all of this years winners were ranked based on:</p>
<p><strong>1.  In-Field Performance</strong>.  This is basically the skills the PUA displays in the field with women.  Most Top 10s deal with this factor exclusively, but I&#8217;ve found that just looking at a guy&#8217;s in-field performance can be misleading, since people have off-nights or can get lucky.  That said, their ability to use the techniques in field repeatedly and consistently to get results is a big, big factor in the ranking process.</p>
<p><strong>2.  Innovations</strong>.  This is what new outlook or techniques the PUA brings to the table.  It&#8217;s easy for any new guy to get good using Mystery Method or any other school of seduction, but then again, that stuff is designed to work!  So being innovative and bringing a new twist, spin, philosophy, technique, or whatever to the mix is also a big deal, because that means the PUA actually has something to contribute to his students and the community as a whole that no one else does.</p>
<p><strong>3.  Teaching Ability</strong>.  This is how effectively the PUA can teach what he does to other people, and have them get similar results.  This is another important factor, because it weeds out the people who are just the lucky naturals, and finds the PUAs who have something to offer humanity as a whole.  After all, I don&#8217;t care if a guy gets laid a lot.  I care if that guy can get ME laid a lot &#8211; and I think the same is true for you.  That is why I factor in the PUA&#8217;s ability to teach others into the ranking.</p>
<p><strong>4.  Contributions To The Community</strong>.  This is a measure of how much the PUA &#8220;gives back&#8221; to others in the seduction community.  This factor is all about the PUA&#8217;s willingness to help others, the knowledge and experience he&#8217;s willing to share, and the compassion he shows to those who need help.  Too many PUAs look down on people not as successful with women as they are, and that&#8217;s not what the seduction community is about, so giving back to it should play a factor, in my opinion.</p>
<p><strong>5.  Philosophy</strong>.  This comes down to the PUA&#8217;s outlook on life, women, and other men in general.  It&#8217;s about how they live their lives, and whether they&#8217;re consistent with it.  Some PUAs spout great philosophy, but don&#8217;t really believe in it or practice it.  But it&#8217;s that core foundations which will influence their students, so I believe this is important in factoring the rankings.</p>
<p><strong>6.  Likability</strong>.  One of the things I base my ranking on is whether I actually like the PUA or not.  This is a subjective thing, but I feel its important, because there&#8217;s usually a reason I don&#8217;t like someone, and that reason has to do with them being a fake, fraud, evil bastard, or what have you.  I like to think I have a fairly decent &#8220;B.S. Radar,&#8221; so when I meet a PUA in person, I can usually tell if they are legit or not after getting to know them, which is why I tend to rank PUAs I have actually met in real life.  If I haven&#8217;t met them, I need to get good feedback from at least 3 sources I trust to make the decision to rank them in this category.</p>
<p>Okay, so now that you know how I rank the list, let&#8217;s get to it!<span id="more-1296"></span></p>
<h1>The Top 10 PUAs Of 2008!</h1>
<h2>1.  Brad P.</h2>
<p>Choosing the #1 Pick Up Artist of 2008 was a difficult decision, since there were so many great choices, but in the end, I had to give the edge to Brad P.  Last year, I ranked Brad P. as #5, but in 2008 I really got to know Brad better and got to see what he was up to.</p>
<p>First off, I have to say that Brad is, in my opinion, the most prolific PUA working right now.  Not only does the guy have a workshop schedule that would make an Olympic Athlete break down and cry (yes, Brad actually teaches all his workshops himself), he also is able to produce an insane number of products teaching guys everything from planning the perfect date to what kind of clothes to wear out to the club.</p>
<p>Brad also has an excellent course which he calls his 30/30 club.  This is a monthly course where Brad himself actually makes the content &#8211; no minions do the work for him &#8211; and it is quite excellent.</p>
<p>Brad also is an incredible innovator.  When I first ranked him, I thought he was a borderline Mystery Method clone, but the more I got to learn about his methods, the more I saw that they were very original.  This is a guy who I believe will actually take the community in new and exciting directions in the future.</p>
<p>Brad is also a great teacher.  He has an uncanny knack for explaining what he does to others, and help them to get similar results.  The guy is also not afraid to demonstrate &#8211; on demand &#8211; his techniques.  Obviously, sometimes Brad crashes and burns (a fact he readily admits), but part of Brad&#8217;s charm is that he&#8217;s not the &#8220;uber guru&#8221; who can do the infamous five-out-of-five.  Rather, he&#8217;s a normal guy, but he tends to succeed more than he fails, and he does so with incredible creativity and good humor.</p>
<p>Brad is the type of guy who is willing to bend over backwards for his students.  He may be sick, exhausted, and not feel like approaching a girl, but if a student is in trouble, he&#8217;ll still push himself to demonstrate and show the guy how its done.</p>
<p>Brad also has a great attitude.  He readily talks about coming from a troubled upbringing which helped him form a very positive outlook on life and a great deal of self discipline.  There is no ego to Brad, which makes him very easy to relate to.  He really is the type of guy men want to be friends with and women want to be with, and he handles it extremely well.</p>
<p>Plus, Brad gets some wicked attractive girls.  It seems like every time I talk to the guy he&#8217;s got a different girl coming over, lol.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to learn more about Brad P, you can visit his website at <a href="http://www.bradppresents.com" target="_blank">www.BradPPresents.com</a></p>
<h2>2.  AFC Adam Lyons</h2>
<p>Last year I debuted Adam at #3 in my Top 10 list, but this year he&#8217;s moved up to #2.  I must say, it was a hard decision NOT to give the guy the #1 spot this year, since Adam is, without a doubt, one of the hottest up-and-coming stars in the community in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>As some of you are well aware, Adam and I have become good friends since we first met in 2007, and he&#8217;s even co-hosted my podcast.  So surely, some people are going to cry fowl that I&#8217;m ranking him so highly.  To those people, I say &#8211; &#8220;If you don&#8217;t believe me, believe what you see for yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Adam has tons and TONS of video out on the internet that proves this guy&#8217;s skill.  Everything from a one-minute kiss close to getting a threesome, all with girls most guys would cut their right arm off to get a shot at.</p>
<p>Adam is, for lack of a better word, absolutely crazy.  He is the &#8220;mad genius&#8221; of pick up, willing to do whatever just to see if it works, so as an innovator, he&#8217;s at the top.  Most of this stems from the fact that Adam, more than any other PUA I&#8217;ve met, likes to have FUN, and as we all know, fun is attractive to women!</p>
<p>Speaking of which, Adam has been criticized by some because he&#8217;s one of the prominent PUAs out there with a real, live girlfriend.  The typical argument is &#8220;How can a guy with a girlfriend possibly teach me how to get girls?&#8221;  Well, speaking from experience, relationship game is like the uber-high-level mark of a master PUA, so a guy who&#8217;s in a healthy relationship with a girl is probably more qualified to teach others about women than most love-em-and-leave-em PUAs.</p>
<p>Adam has also been hard at work teaching workshops all over the world, and is a staple in the lairs and various events within the community.  This probably makes him the most accessible PUA out there for many.  He&#8217;s a prolific poster, and he&#8217;s willing to meet pretty much anyone.</p>
<p>Adman&#8217;s new website, <a href="http://www.attractionexplained.com" target="_blank">AttractionExplained.com</a>, is just getting going, but it&#8217;s sure to be a great resource with Adam teaching everyone through video instruction.  In fact, Adam has also appeared on a number of other products released in 2008 &#8211; none of which were his own!  So its obvious that not only does he have a lot to offer, but we&#8217;ve only scratched the surface of what Adam is going to be contributing to the community.</p>
<p>And when it comes to his students, very few others inspire such loyalty and devotion.  The fact is, much like Brad P., Adam&#8217;s students actually get RESULTS, which is the best indicator of whether a PUA is legit.  Adam&#8217;s &#8220;no game&#8221; game is easy to learn, effective, and super-fun to do.</p>
<p>Adam is also a great guy, who&#8217;s always got something fun and positive to say.  That great attitude, combined with his skills as a teacher and a pick up artist, make him one of the best out there in my opinion.  It will be interesting to see how he fares in 2009, especially against the likes of Brad P.</p>
<p>Learn more about Adam at <a href="http://www.attractionexplained.com" target="_blank">www.AttractionExplained.com</a></p>
<h2>3.  Style</h2>
<p>Yes, what Top 10 list would be complete without the Godfather himself &#8211; Style!  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re all aware of my undying fondness of Neil and his skills, having ranked the man as #1 almost consistently since I started the Top 10 back in 2004.  Last year he lost out to Mystery, slipping to #2, and this year he drops one more point to #3.</p>
<p>But make no mistake &#8211; I was seriously considering ranking Style at #1 this year again.  After all, if you had a No-Holds-Barred Steel Cage match between Style, Brad P, and AFC Adam, I am convinced the only man left standing at the end would be Neil.  The sheer skill level this man has in social situations dwarfs anything seen by either Brad P. or Adam.</p>
<p>But alas, this ranking is not just about skill.  One of the unfortunate side-effects of being one of &#8220;the best&#8221; in the game is that you&#8217;ll naturally withdraw from the mere mortals who got you there in the first place.  Style was marginally quiet in 2008, mostly because he was writing some new books that had nothing to do with the Game.</p>
<p>However, through his Stylelife company, he still contributed a number of great works, and his seminars were amazing &#8211; crossing the &#8220;community&#8221; barrier to bring in speakers for various different aspects of a guy&#8217;s life, like health, fitness, work, time management, etc.</p>
<p>Neil also continues to pull some of the hottest girls I&#8217;ve ever seen, and considering that he&#8217;s getting older, not growing any more hair on his head, and still isn&#8217;t winning any modeling contracts, says a great deal about the guy.</p>
<p>I know Style has gotten a lot of flack recently &#8211; mostly from Barry Kirkey, but a good bit from Stephane and other haters as well &#8211; but darn it!  I still like the guy!  And I think he&#8217;s got a lot to offer others, when he wants to.  Probably the reason I ranked him at #3 is because Style is not as forthcoming as he used to be when it comes to interacting with the community, and we&#8217;ve seen very little innovation from the guy in 2008 (though he usually keeps his new stuff to himself, to be fair).</p>
<p>Regardless, there is still no one better in the community to study and learn from than Style, in my humble opinion.  I am still amazed at this guy&#8217;s skill, and he was just narrowly beat out this year by two rising stars.</p>
<p>Learn more about Style at:  <a href="http://www.stylelife.com" target="_blank">www.StyleLife.com</a></p>
<h2>4.  Mystery</h2>
<p>Like Style, no Top 10 list would be complete without Mystery!  The original Grandmaster Poo-Ah of the community is still alive and kicking, though he did drop out of the #1 spot from last year down to number four.  Why such a drop?</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think anyone can argue that 2007 was Mystery&#8217;s year.  But 2008 saw very little of the man.  The second season of his TV show came and went without much fan fare, the only major product his company released wasn&#8217;t even made by him, and he lost the lawsuit against his former business partner, and his company was forced to admit they misrepresented their claims against them.</p>
<p>On the brighter side of things, Mystery actually was back out in the field teaching workshops again, however, because of his celebrity the argument can be made that he doesn&#8217;t have to work too hard at it anymore.</p>
<p>Plus, we have seen almost NOTHING new from Mr. Marchovich in 2008.  He&#8217;s still dressing in the same clothes he was three years ago, he&#8217;s still teaching the same method he was back in the day, and very little has changed.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to pure raw talent with the ladies, personality, and teaching, it is hard to say there is anyone better than Mystery.  The guy pioneered many of the techniques that have been used and co-opted in other people&#8217;s systems.  In fact, I&#8217;d say that about 85% of all the material taught out there can be traced back to Mystery.  So even if he falls short on innovation, he&#8217;ll always have a solid standing because of the fact that almost everything taught in the community stems from his teachings.</p>
<p>I would really like to see Mystery contribute more to the community in 2009, and have him show us something new.  I think if he could do that, he could re-claim the top spot next year.</p>
<p>To learn more about Mystery, please visit:  <a href="http://www.venusianarts.com" target="_blank">www.VenusianArts.com</a></p>
<h2>5.  Sinn</h2>
<p>Yes, we have a new edition to the list this year!  The one-and-only (well, the one and only with two &#8220;n&#8221;s in his name) Sinn!</p>
<p>2008 saw Sinn break away from his position as Top Instructor at the Love Systems company, and break out on his own.  Since then, the guy has been firing up a storm of controversy, not only with hilarious (and sometimes instructional) videos, but also with his willingness to talk smack about pretty much everybody he hates in the community.</p>
<p>Despite the firestorm around him, I have heard amazing things about Sinn.  I&#8217;ve met him once and talked to him on the phone a few times, but its what I hear from a number of trusted sources that really makes me sit up and take notice of this guy.</p>
<p>Just glancing at his amazing blog, you can see the knowledge and skill this guy has, and his contributions to the community seemingly never end.  His core foundations are still in Mystery Method, but he is taking it to new and exciting places.  (Like, the bathroom, for instance.  LOL)</p>
<p>I also hear very good things about his skill as an instructor.  The students who train with him seem to almost always have glowing reviews about their experiences.</p>
<p>I was really looking forward to hanging out with the guy in a more social atmosphere in 2009.  Unfortunately, when he was in town, I was called away because of a death in my family, and that never happened.  But Sinn, if you want to come and party for a weekend in LA, you got my number bro.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think Sinn has the potential to be a real player in the next Top 10 list for 2009.  If you&#8217;d like to learn more about Sinn, you can go to:  <a href="http://www.sinnsofattraction.com/" target="_blank">SinnsOfAttraction.com</a></p>
<h2>6.  Swinggcat</h2>
<p>Down from #4 last year is Swinggcat.  Why the two-point drop?  Well, the biggest reason is because of Swinngcat&#8217;s lack of participation in the community.  2008 saw one new product release, no new articles, no forum posts, no blog entries, and no appearances at any community events.</p>
<p>In fact, the only reason for ranking Swinggcat at all for 2008 is based on his skill as a PUA.  Other than Brad P, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen anyone who goes out to pick up women as much.  The sheer number of women passing through Swinggcat&#8217;s bed night after night is mind boggling.  If the guy ever decideds to write a book detailing every sexual encounter he has, I&#8217;ll be the first in line to buy it, because when he tells me about them in person, they are the most funny, fascinating, and interesting examples of master attraction game you can ever hear.</p>
<p>The fact remains that there are very few people in the community as talented as Swinggcat when it comes to generating attraction with a girl at will.  The man is an evil genius.  I believe he updated his ebook in 2008 to reflect the changes he&#8217;s made to his game, so he trying to make an attempt to keep teaching the best he has to offer, I just wish he&#8217;d be a little more outgoing with his students.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to learn more about Swinggcat, you can go to:  <a href="http://www.realworldseduction.com" target="_blank">www.RealWorldSeduction.com</a></p>
<h2>7.  Cajun</h2>
<p>Another new face on the Top 10 this year is Love Systems instructor Cajun.  I must admit, I have never met Cajun in person, but the buzz surrounding him is louder than a passing freight train.</p>
<p>I was scheduled to speak at the Love System&#8217;s superconference in 2008, and Cajun was one of the guys I was secretly very interested in meeting.  Unfortunately, my grandfather passed away, and his funeral was the weeked I was scheduled to attend the event, so I missed out on my opportunity.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ve found it hard to find someone who&#8217;s had anything BAD to say about Cajun and his skills.  The first example Nick Savoy gave me of the quality of Love System&#8217;s instructors was Cajun, and he&#8217;s appeared on numerous television shows flaunting his skills.</p>
<p>Not only that, but his students seem very impressed with him.  I&#8217;ve been reading workshop reviews of the guy, and I&#8217;m hard pressed to find one that didn&#8217;t have good things to say.</p>
<p>Could Cajun be a player in 2009?  Quite possibly.  I really want to keep a good eye on him and see what he has to offer.</p>
<p>You can learn more about Cajun at: <a href="http://www.lovesystems.com" target="_blank">www.LoveSystems.com</a></p>
<h2>8.  David Wygant</h2>
<p>I struggled with whether or not to put David Wygant on the list this year.  The man will be the first to admit that he isn&#8217;t a &#8220;pick up artist,&#8221; so to speak.  And there are some traits about him that worry me a little.  However, I cannot argue that the man has game.</p>
<p>First of all, David is probably the OLDEST person on this list, being in his mid-to-late 40s.  Yet, he still is able to get some very attractive women.  The guy is also Mr. Charisma.  Give him a minute to talk your ear off, and you can&#8217;t help but be enraptured by the guy.</p>
<p>Out of all the people on the list, David Wygant is most like &#8220;Hitch&#8221; from the movie.  He doesn&#8217;t do bootcamps, focusing on the one-on-one dating doctor style.  David puts more of a focus on Day Game, and meeting women naturally as you go about your life.  He tends to stay out of the bar/club scene (a factor which is older clients really love).  In fact, he says the best place to meet women is while waiting in line!</p>
<p>Probably the biggest reason I decided to rank David in this year&#8217;s list is because 2008 saw him actively reaching out to the Seduction Community.  He&#8217;s begun to be more involved, not only as a guest speaker at seminars, but also in other people products, making a notable appearance in videos created by both Mehow and Johnny Wolf.</p>
<p>The one criticism I have of David&#8217;s game is that I&#8217;ve found he tends to rely too much on his dog as prop.  Seriously, he takes his dog EVERYWHERE.  His typical MO is to sit outside with his dog at a coffee shop and wait for girls to come up and start playing with his pooch.  That&#8217;s not to say he can&#8217;t get a girl without the dog, he certainly can, but this just seems like a lazy technique to me.</p>
<p>That being said, there is no denying David&#8217;s skill as both a PUA and a teacher.  His website is full of great information, ranging from his blog to his product.  David is also notable because he gives free lifetime email support to his clients.  The man spends most of his time on his Blackberry answering questions from frazzled clients, fer crying out loud.</p>
<p>I can also see David really striking a chord with the older crowd in the community, since he&#8217;s probably the oldest guy out there (legitimately) teaching this stuff.</p>
<p>You can find out more about David at:  <a href="http://www.davidwygant.com" target="_blank">www.DavidWygant.com</a></p>
<h2>9.  Zan</h2>
<p>Another mainstay on the Top 10 is Zan, who drops this year to #9 from #7.  Why the drop?  Well, its not because Zan has gotten worse or diminished in skill in any way.  Its just that there were 8 others who I felt had more to contribute than Zan did in 2008.</p>
<p>The fact remains that Zan is still one of my all-time favorite teachers of the art of seduction.  You&#8217;ll be hard pressed to find a man more awesome than Zan.  The dude is always positive, always glowing with great energy, and always supportive.  I honestly don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever met anyone who did NOT like Zan, which is quite a feat considering the politics in the seduction community.</p>
<p>When it comes to philosophy and life outlook, Zan is hands-down #1.  His attitude puts all the others to shame.  The only reason to rank Zan so low is because his strengths as a PUA are SO philosophical, they are hard to teach.  That&#8217;s not to say Zan can&#8217;t teach them &#8211; he does, and quite well I might add.  But someone who does not have good confidence in themselves will be hard-pressed to put them into action.</p>
<p>Zan is also the second oldest person on the list, yet I always see him with very attractive young women.  I&#8217;m sure most of you know Zan is famous for having 6 girlfriends, all at one time, who knew about each other AND had sex with each other (and him of course).  Very few PUAs can inspire that kind of behavior in women, and Zan is one of them.</p>
<p>Zan was also very busy traveling in 2008, making appearances at a number of community events.  Zan has always been great at &#8220;giving back&#8221; to other guys, even when there&#8217;s nothing in it for him, which makes him a superstar in my book.  Hopefully, I&#8217;ll be able to rank him higher next year.</p>
<p>To learn more about Zan, you can visit:  <a href="http://www.enlightenedseduction.com" target="_blank">www.EnlightenedSeduction.com</a></p>
<h2>10.  Nick Savoy</h2>
<p>Again, probably another PUA I&#8217;d rank higher on the list if I had gotten more of a chance to check him out inn action this past year.  I&#8217;ve known Nick for some time, but never really thought of him as a PUA until recently.  Now that he is no longer in Mystery&#8217;s shadow, he&#8217;s stepped up to shine as a pick up artist in his own right.</p>
<p>Savoy is another PUA who has a girlfriend, who is also a porn star (though I don&#8217;t know if she&#8217;s just a girl who does porn, or who is actually a well-known adult actress).  So the fact that he can actually have a relationship with a girl who works in a crazy industry like that says a lot about his ability to regulate his relationship when he needs to.</p>
<p>Savoy also put on two super-conferences for Love Systems in 2008, which is a great way to give back to the community.  His operation of the Love Systems company has really given a lot of positive light to the seduction community, such as his famous appearance on the Dr. Phil show, which made him look like an angel when compared to the vile Mine&#8217;99.</p>
<p>Savoy is also known for picking up a runway model at the Playboy mansion in 2008, and he&#8217;s also getting a reputation for threesomes as well.  Hopefully, if all goes well in 2009, I&#8217;ll get to see his game for myself and give him a more fair ranking next year.  But right now, I have to rely on what I hear.</p>
<p>To learn more about Savoy, you can go to:  <a href="http://www.lovesystems.com" target="_blank">www.LoveSystems.com</a></p>
<h1>Other Notable 2008 Milestones</h1>
<h2>Best Community Portal:  Revolution 31</h2>
<p>2008 gave us the rise of Barry Kirkey.  Some may think that&#8217;s actually a BAD thing, but gosh darn it, I still laugh my ass off at Barry, even when he&#8217;s giving me some undeserved shit.  But you can&#8217;t deny that no one has taken the scene by storm like Barry has.  His goof of a podcast quickly turned into the undeniable center of community drama.  His shows range from brilliant to barely listenable, but his genius as a commentator and humorist never fails to come through.  That, and the fact that he&#8217;s actually got the discipline to put on a full blown show every day is nothing short of astounding.</p>
<h2>Best New Pick Up Artist:  Psych</h2>
<p>I never heard of Psych until this past year, but since then I&#8217;ve heard nothing but good things.  His videos lampooning RSD&#8217;s Alex are things of legend, and his skills have been touted to me by more than a few people who&#8217;s opinions I trust.  I hope 2009 will bring us more of him.</p>
<h2>Best Product Of 2008:  Brad P&#8217;s 30/30 Club</h2>
<p>Okay, aside from my own products (hey, I&#8217;m biased, so sue me!) I thought the hands down, best product of 2008 was the release of Brad P&#8217;s 30/30 club.  Seriously, this course is one of the best, most intense training for in-field pickup that probably exists in the community.  And it just seems to be getting better month to month.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder &#8211; how will Brad P top this in 2009?  How will ANYBODY top this in 2009?  I guess we shall see.</p>
<h2>Best Community Drama: Stephane&#8217;s Meltdown</h2>
<p>2008 saw a number of amazing dramas unfold, but none better than the meltdown of Stephane and Ideagasms.  I don&#8217;t think anything comes close to hearing about the relationship meltdown of the so-called &#8220;Spiritual Guy,&#8221; him being revealed to be an abusive, drug addled fraud, his ex girlfriend running around causing him to post insanely psychotic jealous rants on his blog, and his lame attempts to justify his behavior.  Not since the Mine&#8217;99 Vs. The Return Of Bishop have I had as much fun watching someone self-destruct.  Let&#8217;s just hope Stephane stays in Canada and can&#8217;t get his hands on a gun anytime soon.</p>
<h1>Contest Winners</h1>
<h2>Craziest Drama Winner:  Paul</h2>
<p>Paul had a great write-up about the RSD drama with Alexander and his infamous &#8220;Oy, Minger&#8221; video.  Congratulations, Paul, you win $100!  Email me for info on how to collect.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Paul wrote:</strong><br />
The biggest drama has happened when Alexander of RSD released his infamous demonstration of what the skillset of RSD instructors really look like.</p>
<p>Here is the video they have repeatedly tried to hide from the public:</p>
<p><a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084_amp_ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ_amp_q=alexander+rsd&amp;referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084&amp;ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ&amp;q=alexander+rsd">http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084&amp;ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ&amp;q=alexander+rsd</a></p>
<p>This created so much drama in Papa’s head, that he actually contacted youtube to notify copyright infringement (which is stupid, but whatever). This actually caused Donovan from over at Seductionchronicles to lose his youtube account.:)</p>
<p>In case someone wants to review all the drama all that video created over at RSDNation, here you can read the closed thread where Alexander defends the video.<br />
He is so full of shit, that even some of the RSD sheeps had to call him out,lol.</p>
<p><a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581&amp;referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581">http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581</a></p>
<p>Summary: Biggest drama of 2008 is the Alexander video, which finally proved the level of competence of all the RSD crew: ZERO.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Paul</p></blockquote>
<h2>Best New PUA Winner:  J</h2>
<p>J made a fantastic case for Glen P. as the best new PUA of 2008.  Congratulations, J!  You win $100!  Email me for info on how to collect.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>J wrote:</strong><br />
Glenn P is the best new PUA. I don’t think he’s new in terms of the community, but for blowing up this year…it’s got to be him since Brad’s company just blew up too. He’s Brad P’s coach out here in NYC. He’s made a name for himself based on his reputation…he rarely post on the boards if ever…he’s been idle and only works with Brad’s 30/30 members now. Each of his workshops sell out and his reviews are great. I’ve worked with him and he pretty much runs the workshop for 6-8 guys with assistant coaches helping along the way.</p>
<p>Why do I think he’s so good? Well his postings are all value add. He replied to people’s post. I’ve actually used his eye contact post <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html?referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html">http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html</a></p>
<p>Every guy that gets into the community is scared of the hottest girls &#8211; he has a post on that too! <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html?referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html">http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html</a></p>
<p>He has a bunch of podcast on ApproachAnxiety and audio field reports of him in action from opening, to flirting, to closing. I could put them here but you need to dig and look this guy up cause he’s the real deal.</p>
<p>His workshops consistently help guys get laid or push them far beyond their limits. He’s a very spiritual guy and has a successful career…he’s definitely doing this for the self-help aspect of it for the guys out there. Glenn was once like us. But he’s worked hard and has even contributed to LoveSystems Routine’s Manual coming up with some new stuff.</p>
<p>Also, he does lair lectures. I hear lots of guys get something out of them. You can see his reviews: <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277_amp_highlight=glennp&amp;referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277&amp;highlight=glennp">http://www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277&amp;highlight=glennp</a></p>
<p>If he’s not the best new PUA, he’s definitely on his way to the rankings if he keeps his eyes on the prize…but I don’t think he really even cares…</p>
<p>So to summarize<br />
Head coach for unknown company that just made it BIG<br />
Sells out his workshops<br />
Gets mad respect from the community<br />
His post are value add. He doesn’t post to brag. Even his audio field reports give value…plus who else has posted audio field reports that are over 20 minutes long??<br />
Self help guru &#8211; cares about students success<br />
Taught by one of the best PUAs out there right now, Brad P<br />
Rates are reasonable given his reputation</p>
<p>If you don’t know who he is yet…you will in 2009.</p></blockquote>
<h2>Best Product Winner: Twice</h2>
<p>Twice made a great case for a product which I too thought was the best of 2008 (excluding my own products, of course! <img src='http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  which was Brad P&#8217;s 30/30 club.  Congrats Twice!  You win $100!  Email me for details on how to collect.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Twice wrote:</strong><br />
I was an AFC, i’d been reading almost everything out there, i can say i was addicted<br />
to any PUA product, Inner Game, Outer Game, Cold Approach, warm approach, club game, attraction, comfort, everything…results? NONE</p>
<p>Then i “met” online a Guy, actually i’ve just found his site, and it was written that in one month it was going to begin a new program…i fill the form and…WOW it was just amazing!! i’m still doing it, but i’d benn with some number closes, one kiss and one fuck close in 4 months…now after 9 months i’ve had 2 new girls in 6 days, and so many are waiting for <img class="wp-smiley" src="../wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p>
<p>which product? Brad’s P. Club 30/30, it’s just open mind on everything, you take it, you’ll change your life! Every month you work on an aspect of your game, Identity, Fashion , Body language, voice tone, social freedon. one night stand, club game, one month one Big Goal!! with Brad, Glenn and the online coaches who helped you about everything.</p>
<p>The single ebook i consider the best one is with no doubt…”The adventures of Brad P.” the best lay report ever!!</p>
<p>Every info about it is on <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.bradppresents.com/home.html?referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bradppresents.com/home.html">http://www.bradppresents.com/home.html</a> and</p>
<p>cheers</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, there you go, dear reader.  I hope you enjoyed this year&#8217;s list!  Be sure to tune in again next year when I unveil the Top 10 of 2009.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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										</div>Hey guys, Great job with the other contests!  We definitely have some winners there.  Remember, I&#8217;ll be announcing the winnners TOMORROW, along with the unveiling of the Top 10 PUAs of 2008. But for now, how about another contest worth $100? Tell me what you thought was the best product of 2008.  The course you&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2009/01/08/top-10-contest-2008-best-product/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
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										</div><p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Great job with the other contests!  We definitely have some winners there.  Remember, I&#8217;ll be announcing the winnners TOMORROW, along with the unveiling of the Top 10 PUAs of 2008.</p>
<p>But for now, how about another contest worth $100?</p>
<p>Tell me what you thought was the best product of 2008.  The course you got that changed your life forever!  One caveat is that the product had to have been released during 2008, so nothing from before that &#8211; even if its new to you!  Also be sure to include WHY you thought the product was so good, and mention where others can find it.</p>
<p>I may hold off until Sunday to announce the winner of this one since the Top 10 comes out tommorrow, unless of course someone writes a great entry really quickly, in which case I&#8217;ll just make the announcement along with the others.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget &#8211; it is totally possible to win more than one contest!  That means if you enter all three with a good entry, you can get $300!</p>
<p>So be sure to check back tomorrow for the unveiling of the Top 10 list!  I&#8217;m sure it will surprise some people.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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										</div>Hey guys, So far, no winners on the Craziest Drama contests.  None of you guys really seem to be putting forth any effort in explaining what the best drama was and why it was so much fun.  I&#8217;m looking for PASSION, people!  I&#8217;ll be extending all contests deadlines to Friday and announcing the winnners at&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2009/01/06/top-10-contest-2008-best-new-pua/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
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										</div><p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>So far, no winners on the Craziest Drama contests.  None of you guys really seem to be putting forth any effort in explaining what the best drama was and why it was so much fun.  I&#8217;m looking for PASSION, people!  I&#8217;ll be extending all contests deadlines to Friday and announcing the winnners at the same time as the unveiling of the Top 10 list to give people more time to participate.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s contest is who you think the best new PUA on the scene in 2008 was.  You have to give their name, a detailed reason why you think they&#8217;re so good, and any links to back up your statements (blog posts, videos showing them doinng their thing, etc.)</p>
<p>Winner of this contest gets&#8230; $100!</p>
<p>So if you win both contests, that&#8217;s $200 smackers in your pocket.</p>
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		<title>Top 10 2008 Contest 1:  Craziest Drama</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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										</div>Okay guys, Day 1 of our countdown to the Top 10 list this year is an easy one&#8230; What do you think was the craziest community &#8220;drama&#8221; to happen in 2008?  Please give a *DETAILED* explanation as to why you think it is the craziest, what impact (if any) it had in the community, and&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2009/01/04/top-10-2008-contest-1-craziest-drama/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
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										</div><p>Okay guys, Day 1 of our countdown to the Top 10 list this year is an easy one&#8230;</p>
<p>What do you think was the craziest community &#8220;drama&#8221; to happen in 2008?  Please give a *DETAILED* explanation as to why you think it is the craziest, what impact (if any) it had in the community, and what you enjoyed the most about it.</p>
<p>The winner of this contest will get&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>$100!</strong></p>
<p>Right out of me own pocket, to spend on whatever you want.</p>
<p>Sound good?</p>
<p>Winner gets announced on Wednesday.  If no one gives me anything good, or no one enters, I&#8217;ll just roll the prize money into the next contest.</p>
<p>So get yer butt into the comments thread of this post and start submitting your entries.  Can you submit more than one?  Fo&#8217; sure.  But remember:  You can&#8217;t win if you don&#8217;t enter!  So if you&#8217;re one of those hoity-toity types who wipes his arse with Benjamins, don&#8217;t bother entering.</p>
<p>For the rest of you, I look forward to seeing your entries!</p>
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