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		<title>Study Shows Women Attracted to Men in Red</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://www.techvert.com/study-shows-women-attracted-to-men-in-red/" target="_blank">new study</a> reveals men dressed in red are more attractive to women&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>What could be as alluring as a lady in red? A gentleman in red, finds a multicultural study published Aug. 2 in the Journal of Experimental Psychology: General.</p>
<p>Simply wearing the color red or being bordered by the rosy hue makes a man more attractive and sexually desirable to women, according to a series of studies by researchers at the University of Rochester and other institutions. And women are unaware of this arousing effect.</p>
<p>The cherry color’s charm ultimately lies in its ability to make men appear more powerful, says lead author Andrew Elliot, professor of psychology at the University of Rochester. “We found that women view men in red as higher in status, more likely to make money and more likely to climb the social ladder. And it’s this high-status judgment that leads to the attraction,” Elliot says.</p>
<p>Why does red signal rank? The authors see both culture and biology at work. In human societies across the globe, red traditionally has been part of the regalia of the rich and powerful. Ancient China, Japan and sub-Saharan Africa all used the vibrant tint to convey prosperity and elevated status, and Ancient Rome’s most powerful citizens were literally called “the ones who wear red.” Even today, the authors note, businessmen wear a red tie to indicate confidence, and celebrities and dignitaries are feted by “rolling out the red carpet.”</p>
<p>Along with this learned association between red and status, the authors point to the biological roots of human behavior. In non-human primates, like mandrills and gelada baboons, red is an indicator of male dominance and is expressed most intensely in alpha males. Females of these species mate more often with alpha males, who in turn provide protection and resources.</p>
<p>“When women see red it triggers something deep and probably biologically engrained,” explains Elliot. “We say in our culture that men act like animals in the sexual realm. It looks like women may be acting like animals as well in the same sort of way.”</p>
<p>To quantify the red effect, the paper analyzed responses from 288 female and 25 male undergraduates to photographs of men in seven different experiments. Participants were all self-identified as heterosexual or bisexual. In one color presentation, participants looked at a man’s photo framed by a border of either red or white and answered a series of questions, such as: “How attractive do you think this person is?”</p>
<p>Other experiments contrasted red with gray, green, or blue. Colors were precisely equated in lightness and intensity so that test results could not be attributed to differences other than hue.</p>
<p>In several experiments, the shirt of the man in the photographs was digitally colored either red or another color. Participants rated the pictured man’s status and attractiveness, and reported on their willingness to date, kiss, and engage in other sexual activity with the person. They also rated the man’s general likability, kindness, and extraversion.</p>
<p>The researchers found that the red effect was limited to status and romance: red made the man seem more powerful, attractive, and sexually desirable, but did not make the man seem more likable, kind, or sociable. The effect was consistent across cultures: undergraduates in the United States, England, Germany, and China all found men more attractive when wearing or bordered by red.</p>
<p>And the effect was limited to women. When males were asked to rate the attractiveness of a pictured male, color made no difference in their responses.</p>
<p>Across all the studies, the influence of color was totally under the radar. “We typically think of color in terms of beauty and aesthetics,” say Elliot. “But color carries meaning as well and affects our perception and behavior in important ways without our awareness.”</p>
<p>In earlier work, Elliot documented that men are more attracted to women in red. But the red effect depends on the context. Elliot and others have also shown that seeing red in competitive situations, such as IQ tests or sporting events, leads to worse performance.</p></blockquote>
<p>So for those of you heading out to the clubs, time to invest in some red shirts.  :-)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome one and all to the Top 10 list of best Pick Up Artists for the year 2008! 2008 was a strange year &#8211; for me personally, and for a lot of others, I think.  In many ways, I&#8217;m glad the year is over.  But regardless of how good of a year it was, there&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2009/01/09/the-top-10-pick-up-artists-of-2008/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome one and all to the Top 10 list of best Pick Up Artists for the year 2008!</p>
<p>2008 was a strange year &#8211; for me personally, and for a lot of others, I think.  In many ways, I&#8217;m glad the year is over.  But regardless of how good of a year it was, there were many people in the seduction community who continued to rise above petty squabbles and drama and actually help other men improve their lives and their success with women, and this list is a CELEBRATION of those men, who have helped others throughout the past year.</p>
<p>For those of you new to the list, let me explain how the rankings work.  It becomes very easy to get &#8220;caught up&#8221; in the hype of certain personalities, so I try and rank the Top 10 based on a number of criteria, which I believe must be present to be considered a good &#8220;PUA.&#8221;  So all of this years winners were ranked based on:</p>
<p><strong>1.  In-Field Performance</strong>.  This is basically the skills the PUA displays in the field with women.  Most Top 10s deal with this factor exclusively, but I&#8217;ve found that just looking at a guy&#8217;s in-field performance can be misleading, since people have off-nights or can get lucky.  That said, their ability to use the techniques in field repeatedly and consistently to get results is a big, big factor in the ranking process.</p>
<p><strong>2.  Innovations</strong>.  This is what new outlook or techniques the PUA brings to the table.  It&#8217;s easy for any new guy to get good using Mystery Method or any other school of seduction, but then again, that stuff is designed to work!  So being innovative and bringing a new twist, spin, philosophy, technique, or whatever to the mix is also a big deal, because that means the PUA actually has something to contribute to his students and the community as a whole that no one else does.</p>
<p><strong>3.  Teaching Ability</strong>.  This is how effectively the PUA can teach what he does to other people, and have them get similar results.  This is another important factor, because it weeds out the people who are just the lucky naturals, and finds the PUAs who have something to offer humanity as a whole.  After all, I don&#8217;t care if a guy gets laid a lot.  I care if that guy can get ME laid a lot &#8211; and I think the same is true for you.  That is why I factor in the PUA&#8217;s ability to teach others into the ranking.</p>
<p><strong>4.  Contributions To The Community</strong>.  This is a measure of how much the PUA &#8220;gives back&#8221; to others in the seduction community.  This factor is all about the PUA&#8217;s willingness to help others, the knowledge and experience he&#8217;s willing to share, and the compassion he shows to those who need help.  Too many PUAs look down on people not as successful with women as they are, and that&#8217;s not what the seduction community is about, so giving back to it should play a factor, in my opinion.</p>
<p><strong>5.  Philosophy</strong>.  This comes down to the PUA&#8217;s outlook on life, women, and other men in general.  It&#8217;s about how they live their lives, and whether they&#8217;re consistent with it.  Some PUAs spout great philosophy, but don&#8217;t really believe in it or practice it.  But it&#8217;s that core foundations which will influence their students, so I believe this is important in factoring the rankings.</p>
<p><strong>6.  Likability</strong>.  One of the things I base my ranking on is whether I actually like the PUA or not.  This is a subjective thing, but I feel its important, because there&#8217;s usually a reason I don&#8217;t like someone, and that reason has to do with them being a fake, fraud, evil bastard, or what have you.  I like to think I have a fairly decent &#8220;B.S. Radar,&#8221; so when I meet a PUA in person, I can usually tell if they are legit or not after getting to know them, which is why I tend to rank PUAs I have actually met in real life.  If I haven&#8217;t met them, I need to get good feedback from at least 3 sources I trust to make the decision to rank them in this category.</p>
<p>Okay, so now that you know how I rank the list, let&#8217;s get to it!<span id="more-1296"></span></p>
<h1>The Top 10 PUAs Of 2008!</h1>
<h2>1.  Brad P.</h2>
<p>Choosing the #1 Pick Up Artist of 2008 was a difficult decision, since there were so many great choices, but in the end, I had to give the edge to Brad P.  Last year, I ranked Brad P. as #5, but in 2008 I really got to know Brad better and got to see what he was up to.</p>
<p>First off, I have to say that Brad is, in my opinion, the most prolific PUA working right now.  Not only does the guy have a workshop schedule that would make an Olympic Athlete break down and cry (yes, Brad actually teaches all his workshops himself), he also is able to produce an insane number of products teaching guys everything from planning the perfect date to what kind of clothes to wear out to the club.</p>
<p>Brad also has an excellent course which he calls his 30/30 club.  This is a monthly course where Brad himself actually makes the content &#8211; no minions do the work for him &#8211; and it is quite excellent.</p>
<p>Brad also is an incredible innovator.  When I first ranked him, I thought he was a borderline Mystery Method clone, but the more I got to learn about his methods, the more I saw that they were very original.  This is a guy who I believe will actually take the community in new and exciting directions in the future.</p>
<p>Brad is also a great teacher.  He has an uncanny knack for explaining what he does to others, and help them to get similar results.  The guy is also not afraid to demonstrate &#8211; on demand &#8211; his techniques.  Obviously, sometimes Brad crashes and burns (a fact he readily admits), but part of Brad&#8217;s charm is that he&#8217;s not the &#8220;uber guru&#8221; who can do the infamous five-out-of-five.  Rather, he&#8217;s a normal guy, but he tends to succeed more than he fails, and he does so with incredible creativity and good humor.</p>
<p>Brad is the type of guy who is willing to bend over backwards for his students.  He may be sick, exhausted, and not feel like approaching a girl, but if a student is in trouble, he&#8217;ll still push himself to demonstrate and show the guy how its done.</p>
<p>Brad also has a great attitude.  He readily talks about coming from a troubled upbringing which helped him form a very positive outlook on life and a great deal of self discipline.  There is no ego to Brad, which makes him very easy to relate to.  He really is the type of guy men want to be friends with and women want to be with, and he handles it extremely well.</p>
<p>Plus, Brad gets some wicked attractive girls.  It seems like every time I talk to the guy he&#8217;s got a different girl coming over, lol.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to learn more about Brad P, you can visit his website at <a href="http://www.bradppresents.com" target="_blank">www.BradPPresents.com</a></p>
<h2>2.  AFC Adam Lyons</h2>
<p>Last year I debuted Adam at #3 in my Top 10 list, but this year he&#8217;s moved up to #2.  I must say, it was a hard decision NOT to give the guy the #1 spot this year, since Adam is, without a doubt, one of the hottest up-and-coming stars in the community in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>As some of you are well aware, Adam and I have become good friends since we first met in 2007, and he&#8217;s even co-hosted my podcast.  So surely, some people are going to cry fowl that I&#8217;m ranking him so highly.  To those people, I say &#8211; &#8220;If you don&#8217;t believe me, believe what you see for yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Adam has tons and TONS of video out on the internet that proves this guy&#8217;s skill.  Everything from a one-minute kiss close to getting a threesome, all with girls most guys would cut their right arm off to get a shot at.</p>
<p>Adam is, for lack of a better word, absolutely crazy.  He is the &#8220;mad genius&#8221; of pick up, willing to do whatever just to see if it works, so as an innovator, he&#8217;s at the top.  Most of this stems from the fact that Adam, more than any other PUA I&#8217;ve met, likes to have FUN, and as we all know, fun is attractive to women!</p>
<p>Speaking of which, Adam has been criticized by some because he&#8217;s one of the prominent PUAs out there with a real, live girlfriend.  The typical argument is &#8220;How can a guy with a girlfriend possibly teach me how to get girls?&#8221;  Well, speaking from experience, relationship game is like the uber-high-level mark of a master PUA, so a guy who&#8217;s in a healthy relationship with a girl is probably more qualified to teach others about women than most love-em-and-leave-em PUAs.</p>
<p>Adam has also been hard at work teaching workshops all over the world, and is a staple in the lairs and various events within the community.  This probably makes him the most accessible PUA out there for many.  He&#8217;s a prolific poster, and he&#8217;s willing to meet pretty much anyone.</p>
<p>Adman&#8217;s new website, <a href="http://www.attractionexplained.com" target="_blank">AttractionExplained.com</a>, is just getting going, but it&#8217;s sure to be a great resource with Adam teaching everyone through video instruction.  In fact, Adam has also appeared on a number of other products released in 2008 &#8211; none of which were his own!  So its obvious that not only does he have a lot to offer, but we&#8217;ve only scratched the surface of what Adam is going to be contributing to the community.</p>
<p>And when it comes to his students, very few others inspire such loyalty and devotion.  The fact is, much like Brad P., Adam&#8217;s students actually get RESULTS, which is the best indicator of whether a PUA is legit.  Adam&#8217;s &#8220;no game&#8221; game is easy to learn, effective, and super-fun to do.</p>
<p>Adam is also a great guy, who&#8217;s always got something fun and positive to say.  That great attitude, combined with his skills as a teacher and a pick up artist, make him one of the best out there in my opinion.  It will be interesting to see how he fares in 2009, especially against the likes of Brad P.</p>
<p>Learn more about Adam at <a href="http://www.attractionexplained.com" target="_blank">www.AttractionExplained.com</a></p>
<h2>3.  Style</h2>
<p>Yes, what Top 10 list would be complete without the Godfather himself &#8211; Style!  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re all aware of my undying fondness of Neil and his skills, having ranked the man as #1 almost consistently since I started the Top 10 back in 2004.  Last year he lost out to Mystery, slipping to #2, and this year he drops one more point to #3.</p>
<p>But make no mistake &#8211; I was seriously considering ranking Style at #1 this year again.  After all, if you had a No-Holds-Barred Steel Cage match between Style, Brad P, and AFC Adam, I am convinced the only man left standing at the end would be Neil.  The sheer skill level this man has in social situations dwarfs anything seen by either Brad P. or Adam.</p>
<p>But alas, this ranking is not just about skill.  One of the unfortunate side-effects of being one of &#8220;the best&#8221; in the game is that you&#8217;ll naturally withdraw from the mere mortals who got you there in the first place.  Style was marginally quiet in 2008, mostly because he was writing some new books that had nothing to do with the Game.</p>
<p>However, through his Stylelife company, he still contributed a number of great works, and his seminars were amazing &#8211; crossing the &#8220;community&#8221; barrier to bring in speakers for various different aspects of a guy&#8217;s life, like health, fitness, work, time management, etc.</p>
<p>Neil also continues to pull some of the hottest girls I&#8217;ve ever seen, and considering that he&#8217;s getting older, not growing any more hair on his head, and still isn&#8217;t winning any modeling contracts, says a great deal about the guy.</p>
<p>I know Style has gotten a lot of flack recently &#8211; mostly from Barry Kirkey, but a good bit from Stephane and other haters as well &#8211; but darn it!  I still like the guy!  And I think he&#8217;s got a lot to offer others, when he wants to.  Probably the reason I ranked him at #3 is because Style is not as forthcoming as he used to be when it comes to interacting with the community, and we&#8217;ve seen very little innovation from the guy in 2008 (though he usually keeps his new stuff to himself, to be fair).</p>
<p>Regardless, there is still no one better in the community to study and learn from than Style, in my humble opinion.  I am still amazed at this guy&#8217;s skill, and he was just narrowly beat out this year by two rising stars.</p>
<p>Learn more about Style at:  <a href="http://www.stylelife.com" target="_blank">www.StyleLife.com</a></p>
<h2>4.  Mystery</h2>
<p>Like Style, no Top 10 list would be complete without Mystery!  The original Grandmaster Poo-Ah of the community is still alive and kicking, though he did drop out of the #1 spot from last year down to number four.  Why such a drop?</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think anyone can argue that 2007 was Mystery&#8217;s year.  But 2008 saw very little of the man.  The second season of his TV show came and went without much fan fare, the only major product his company released wasn&#8217;t even made by him, and he lost the lawsuit against his former business partner, and his company was forced to admit they misrepresented their claims against them.</p>
<p>On the brighter side of things, Mystery actually was back out in the field teaching workshops again, however, because of his celebrity the argument can be made that he doesn&#8217;t have to work too hard at it anymore.</p>
<p>Plus, we have seen almost NOTHING new from Mr. Marchovich in 2008.  He&#8217;s still dressing in the same clothes he was three years ago, he&#8217;s still teaching the same method he was back in the day, and very little has changed.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to pure raw talent with the ladies, personality, and teaching, it is hard to say there is anyone better than Mystery.  The guy pioneered many of the techniques that have been used and co-opted in other people&#8217;s systems.  In fact, I&#8217;d say that about 85% of all the material taught out there can be traced back to Mystery.  So even if he falls short on innovation, he&#8217;ll always have a solid standing because of the fact that almost everything taught in the community stems from his teachings.</p>
<p>I would really like to see Mystery contribute more to the community in 2009, and have him show us something new.  I think if he could do that, he could re-claim the top spot next year.</p>
<p>To learn more about Mystery, please visit:  <a href="http://www.venusianarts.com" target="_blank">www.VenusianArts.com</a></p>
<h2>5.  Sinn</h2>
<p>Yes, we have a new edition to the list this year!  The one-and-only (well, the one and only with two &#8220;n&#8221;s in his name) Sinn!</p>
<p>2008 saw Sinn break away from his position as Top Instructor at the Love Systems company, and break out on his own.  Since then, the guy has been firing up a storm of controversy, not only with hilarious (and sometimes instructional) videos, but also with his willingness to talk smack about pretty much everybody he hates in the community.</p>
<p>Despite the firestorm around him, I have heard amazing things about Sinn.  I&#8217;ve met him once and talked to him on the phone a few times, but its what I hear from a number of trusted sources that really makes me sit up and take notice of this guy.</p>
<p>Just glancing at his amazing blog, you can see the knowledge and skill this guy has, and his contributions to the community seemingly never end.  His core foundations are still in Mystery Method, but he is taking it to new and exciting places.  (Like, the bathroom, for instance.  LOL)</p>
<p>I also hear very good things about his skill as an instructor.  The students who train with him seem to almost always have glowing reviews about their experiences.</p>
<p>I was really looking forward to hanging out with the guy in a more social atmosphere in 2009.  Unfortunately, when he was in town, I was called away because of a death in my family, and that never happened.  But Sinn, if you want to come and party for a weekend in LA, you got my number bro.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think Sinn has the potential to be a real player in the next Top 10 list for 2009.  If you&#8217;d like to learn more about Sinn, you can go to:  <a href="http://www.sinnsofattraction.com/" target="_blank">SinnsOfAttraction.com</a></p>
<h2>6.  Swinggcat</h2>
<p>Down from #4 last year is Swinggcat.  Why the two-point drop?  Well, the biggest reason is because of Swinngcat&#8217;s lack of participation in the community.  2008 saw one new product release, no new articles, no forum posts, no blog entries, and no appearances at any community events.</p>
<p>In fact, the only reason for ranking Swinggcat at all for 2008 is based on his skill as a PUA.  Other than Brad P, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen anyone who goes out to pick up women as much.  The sheer number of women passing through Swinggcat&#8217;s bed night after night is mind boggling.  If the guy ever decideds to write a book detailing every sexual encounter he has, I&#8217;ll be the first in line to buy it, because when he tells me about them in person, they are the most funny, fascinating, and interesting examples of master attraction game you can ever hear.</p>
<p>The fact remains that there are very few people in the community as talented as Swinggcat when it comes to generating attraction with a girl at will.  The man is an evil genius.  I believe he updated his ebook in 2008 to reflect the changes he&#8217;s made to his game, so he trying to make an attempt to keep teaching the best he has to offer, I just wish he&#8217;d be a little more outgoing with his students.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to learn more about Swinggcat, you can go to:  <a href="http://www.realworldseduction.com" target="_blank">www.RealWorldSeduction.com</a></p>
<h2>7.  Cajun</h2>
<p>Another new face on the Top 10 this year is Love Systems instructor Cajun.  I must admit, I have never met Cajun in person, but the buzz surrounding him is louder than a passing freight train.</p>
<p>I was scheduled to speak at the Love System&#8217;s superconference in 2008, and Cajun was one of the guys I was secretly very interested in meeting.  Unfortunately, my grandfather passed away, and his funeral was the weeked I was scheduled to attend the event, so I missed out on my opportunity.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ve found it hard to find someone who&#8217;s had anything BAD to say about Cajun and his skills.  The first example Nick Savoy gave me of the quality of Love System&#8217;s instructors was Cajun, and he&#8217;s appeared on numerous television shows flaunting his skills.</p>
<p>Not only that, but his students seem very impressed with him.  I&#8217;ve been reading workshop reviews of the guy, and I&#8217;m hard pressed to find one that didn&#8217;t have good things to say.</p>
<p>Could Cajun be a player in 2009?  Quite possibly.  I really want to keep a good eye on him and see what he has to offer.</p>
<p>You can learn more about Cajun at: <a href="http://www.lovesystems.com" target="_blank">www.LoveSystems.com</a></p>
<h2>8.  David Wygant</h2>
<p>I struggled with whether or not to put David Wygant on the list this year.  The man will be the first to admit that he isn&#8217;t a &#8220;pick up artist,&#8221; so to speak.  And there are some traits about him that worry me a little.  However, I cannot argue that the man has game.</p>
<p>First of all, David is probably the OLDEST person on this list, being in his mid-to-late 40s.  Yet, he still is able to get some very attractive women.  The guy is also Mr. Charisma.  Give him a minute to talk your ear off, and you can&#8217;t help but be enraptured by the guy.</p>
<p>Out of all the people on the list, David Wygant is most like &#8220;Hitch&#8221; from the movie.  He doesn&#8217;t do bootcamps, focusing on the one-on-one dating doctor style.  David puts more of a focus on Day Game, and meeting women naturally as you go about your life.  He tends to stay out of the bar/club scene (a factor which is older clients really love).  In fact, he says the best place to meet women is while waiting in line!</p>
<p>Probably the biggest reason I decided to rank David in this year&#8217;s list is because 2008 saw him actively reaching out to the Seduction Community.  He&#8217;s begun to be more involved, not only as a guest speaker at seminars, but also in other people products, making a notable appearance in videos created by both Mehow and Johnny Wolf.</p>
<p>The one criticism I have of David&#8217;s game is that I&#8217;ve found he tends to rely too much on his dog as prop.  Seriously, he takes his dog EVERYWHERE.  His typical MO is to sit outside with his dog at a coffee shop and wait for girls to come up and start playing with his pooch.  That&#8217;s not to say he can&#8217;t get a girl without the dog, he certainly can, but this just seems like a lazy technique to me.</p>
<p>That being said, there is no denying David&#8217;s skill as both a PUA and a teacher.  His website is full of great information, ranging from his blog to his product.  David is also notable because he gives free lifetime email support to his clients.  The man spends most of his time on his Blackberry answering questions from frazzled clients, fer crying out loud.</p>
<p>I can also see David really striking a chord with the older crowd in the community, since he&#8217;s probably the oldest guy out there (legitimately) teaching this stuff.</p>
<p>You can find out more about David at:  <a href="http://www.davidwygant.com" target="_blank">www.DavidWygant.com</a></p>
<h2>9.  Zan</h2>
<p>Another mainstay on the Top 10 is Zan, who drops this year to #9 from #7.  Why the drop?  Well, its not because Zan has gotten worse or diminished in skill in any way.  Its just that there were 8 others who I felt had more to contribute than Zan did in 2008.</p>
<p>The fact remains that Zan is still one of my all-time favorite teachers of the art of seduction.  You&#8217;ll be hard pressed to find a man more awesome than Zan.  The dude is always positive, always glowing with great energy, and always supportive.  I honestly don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever met anyone who did NOT like Zan, which is quite a feat considering the politics in the seduction community.</p>
<p>When it comes to philosophy and life outlook, Zan is hands-down #1.  His attitude puts all the others to shame.  The only reason to rank Zan so low is because his strengths as a PUA are SO philosophical, they are hard to teach.  That&#8217;s not to say Zan can&#8217;t teach them &#8211; he does, and quite well I might add.  But someone who does not have good confidence in themselves will be hard-pressed to put them into action.</p>
<p>Zan is also the second oldest person on the list, yet I always see him with very attractive young women.  I&#8217;m sure most of you know Zan is famous for having 6 girlfriends, all at one time, who knew about each other AND had sex with each other (and him of course).  Very few PUAs can inspire that kind of behavior in women, and Zan is one of them.</p>
<p>Zan was also very busy traveling in 2008, making appearances at a number of community events.  Zan has always been great at &#8220;giving back&#8221; to other guys, even when there&#8217;s nothing in it for him, which makes him a superstar in my book.  Hopefully, I&#8217;ll be able to rank him higher next year.</p>
<p>To learn more about Zan, you can visit:  <a href="http://www.enlightenedseduction.com" target="_blank">www.EnlightenedSeduction.com</a></p>
<h2>10.  Nick Savoy</h2>
<p>Again, probably another PUA I&#8217;d rank higher on the list if I had gotten more of a chance to check him out inn action this past year.  I&#8217;ve known Nick for some time, but never really thought of him as a PUA until recently.  Now that he is no longer in Mystery&#8217;s shadow, he&#8217;s stepped up to shine as a pick up artist in his own right.</p>
<p>Savoy is another PUA who has a girlfriend, who is also a porn star (though I don&#8217;t know if she&#8217;s just a girl who does porn, or who is actually a well-known adult actress).  So the fact that he can actually have a relationship with a girl who works in a crazy industry like that says a lot about his ability to regulate his relationship when he needs to.</p>
<p>Savoy also put on two super-conferences for Love Systems in 2008, which is a great way to give back to the community.  His operation of the Love Systems company has really given a lot of positive light to the seduction community, such as his famous appearance on the Dr. Phil show, which made him look like an angel when compared to the vile Mine&#8217;99.</p>
<p>Savoy is also known for picking up a runway model at the Playboy mansion in 2008, and he&#8217;s also getting a reputation for threesomes as well.  Hopefully, if all goes well in 2009, I&#8217;ll get to see his game for myself and give him a more fair ranking next year.  But right now, I have to rely on what I hear.</p>
<p>To learn more about Savoy, you can go to:  <a href="http://www.lovesystems.com" target="_blank">www.LoveSystems.com</a></p>
<h1>Other Notable 2008 Milestones</h1>
<h2>Best Community Portal:  Revolution 31</h2>
<p>2008 gave us the rise of Barry Kirkey.  Some may think that&#8217;s actually a BAD thing, but gosh darn it, I still laugh my ass off at Barry, even when he&#8217;s giving me some undeserved shit.  But you can&#8217;t deny that no one has taken the scene by storm like Barry has.  His goof of a podcast quickly turned into the undeniable center of community drama.  His shows range from brilliant to barely listenable, but his genius as a commentator and humorist never fails to come through.  That, and the fact that he&#8217;s actually got the discipline to put on a full blown show every day is nothing short of astounding.</p>
<h2>Best New Pick Up Artist:  Psych</h2>
<p>I never heard of Psych until this past year, but since then I&#8217;ve heard nothing but good things.  His videos lampooning RSD&#8217;s Alex are things of legend, and his skills have been touted to me by more than a few people who&#8217;s opinions I trust.  I hope 2009 will bring us more of him.</p>
<h2>Best Product Of 2008:  Brad P&#8217;s 30/30 Club</h2>
<p>Okay, aside from my own products (hey, I&#8217;m biased, so sue me!) I thought the hands down, best product of 2008 was the release of Brad P&#8217;s 30/30 club.  Seriously, this course is one of the best, most intense training for in-field pickup that probably exists in the community.  And it just seems to be getting better month to month.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder &#8211; how will Brad P top this in 2009?  How will ANYBODY top this in 2009?  I guess we shall see.</p>
<h2>Best Community Drama: Stephane&#8217;s Meltdown</h2>
<p>2008 saw a number of amazing dramas unfold, but none better than the meltdown of Stephane and Ideagasms.  I don&#8217;t think anything comes close to hearing about the relationship meltdown of the so-called &#8220;Spiritual Guy,&#8221; him being revealed to be an abusive, drug addled fraud, his ex girlfriend running around causing him to post insanely psychotic jealous rants on his blog, and his lame attempts to justify his behavior.  Not since the Mine&#8217;99 Vs. The Return Of Bishop have I had as much fun watching someone self-destruct.  Let&#8217;s just hope Stephane stays in Canada and can&#8217;t get his hands on a gun anytime soon.</p>
<h1>Contest Winners</h1>
<h2>Craziest Drama Winner:  Paul</h2>
<p>Paul had a great write-up about the RSD drama with Alexander and his infamous &#8220;Oy, Minger&#8221; video.  Congratulations, Paul, you win $100!  Email me for info on how to collect.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Paul wrote:</strong><br />
The biggest drama has happened when Alexander of RSD released his infamous demonstration of what the skillset of RSD instructors really look like.</p>
<p>Here is the video they have repeatedly tried to hide from the public:</p>
<p><a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084_amp_ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ_amp_q=alexander+rsd&amp;referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084&amp;ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ&amp;q=alexander+rsd">http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084&amp;ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ&amp;q=alexander+rsd</a></p>
<p>This created so much drama in Papa’s head, that he actually contacted youtube to notify copyright infringement (which is stupid, but whatever). This actually caused Donovan from over at Seductionchronicles to lose his youtube account.:)</p>
<p>In case someone wants to review all the drama all that video created over at RSDNation, here you can read the closed thread where Alexander defends the video.<br />
He is so full of shit, that even some of the RSD sheeps had to call him out,lol.</p>
<p><a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581&amp;referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581">http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581</a></p>
<p>Summary: Biggest drama of 2008 is the Alexander video, which finally proved the level of competence of all the RSD crew: ZERO.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Paul</p></blockquote>
<h2>Best New PUA Winner:  J</h2>
<p>J made a fantastic case for Glen P. as the best new PUA of 2008.  Congratulations, J!  You win $100!  Email me for info on how to collect.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>J wrote:</strong><br />
Glenn P is the best new PUA. I don’t think he’s new in terms of the community, but for blowing up this year…it’s got to be him since Brad’s company just blew up too. He’s Brad P’s coach out here in NYC. He’s made a name for himself based on his reputation…he rarely post on the boards if ever…he’s been idle and only works with Brad’s 30/30 members now. Each of his workshops sell out and his reviews are great. I’ve worked with him and he pretty much runs the workshop for 6-8 guys with assistant coaches helping along the way.</p>
<p>Why do I think he’s so good? Well his postings are all value add. He replied to people’s post. I’ve actually used his eye contact post <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html?referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html">http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html</a></p>
<p>Every guy that gets into the community is scared of the hottest girls &#8211; he has a post on that too! <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html?referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html">http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html</a></p>
<p>He has a bunch of podcast on ApproachAnxiety and audio field reports of him in action from opening, to flirting, to closing. I could put them here but you need to dig and look this guy up cause he’s the real deal.</p>
<p>His workshops consistently help guys get laid or push them far beyond their limits. He’s a very spiritual guy and has a successful career…he’s definitely doing this for the self-help aspect of it for the guys out there. Glenn was once like us. But he’s worked hard and has even contributed to LoveSystems Routine’s Manual coming up with some new stuff.</p>
<p>Also, he does lair lectures. I hear lots of guys get something out of them. You can see his reviews: <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277_amp_highlight=glennp&amp;referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277&amp;highlight=glennp">http://www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277&amp;highlight=glennp</a></p>
<p>If he’s not the best new PUA, he’s definitely on his way to the rankings if he keeps his eyes on the prize…but I don’t think he really even cares…</p>
<p>So to summarize<br />
Head coach for unknown company that just made it BIG<br />
Sells out his workshops<br />
Gets mad respect from the community<br />
His post are value add. He doesn’t post to brag. Even his audio field reports give value…plus who else has posted audio field reports that are over 20 minutes long??<br />
Self help guru &#8211; cares about students success<br />
Taught by one of the best PUAs out there right now, Brad P<br />
Rates are reasonable given his reputation</p>
<p>If you don’t know who he is yet…you will in 2009.</p></blockquote>
<h2>Best Product Winner: Twice</h2>
<p>Twice made a great case for a product which I too thought was the best of 2008 (excluding my own products, of course! <img src='http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  which was Brad P&#8217;s 30/30 club.  Congrats Twice!  You win $100!  Email me for details on how to collect.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Twice wrote:</strong><br />
I was an AFC, i’d been reading almost everything out there, i can say i was addicted<br />
to any PUA product, Inner Game, Outer Game, Cold Approach, warm approach, club game, attraction, comfort, everything…results? NONE</p>
<p>Then i “met” online a Guy, actually i’ve just found his site, and it was written that in one month it was going to begin a new program…i fill the form and…WOW it was just amazing!! i’m still doing it, but i’d benn with some number closes, one kiss and one fuck close in 4 months…now after 9 months i’ve had 2 new girls in 6 days, and so many are waiting for <img class="wp-smiley" src="../wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p>
<p>which product? Brad’s P. Club 30/30, it’s just open mind on everything, you take it, you’ll change your life! Every month you work on an aspect of your game, Identity, Fashion , Body language, voice tone, social freedon. one night stand, club game, one month one Big Goal!! with Brad, Glenn and the online coaches who helped you about everything.</p>
<p>The single ebook i consider the best one is with no doubt…”The adventures of Brad P.” the best lay report ever!!</p>
<p>Every info about it is on <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.bradppresents.com/home.html?referer=http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/');" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bradppresents.com/home.html">http://www.bradppresents.com/home.html</a> and</p>
<p>cheers</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, there you go, dear reader.  I hope you enjoyed this year&#8217;s list!  Be sure to tune in again next year when I unveil the Top 10 of 2009.</p>
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		<title>Julian Foxx Douches All Over Style &amp; Mystery</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a new video making the rounds on the internet where a new face in the pick up scene, Julian Foxx, douches on both Style and Mystery.  Check it out&#8230; Now, I have a few problems with this video&#8230; But before I get into the problems I have, I just want to preface this by&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2008/08/07/julian-foxx-douches-all-over-style-mystery/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a new video making the rounds on the internet where a new face in the pick up scene, Julian Foxx, douches on both Style and Mystery.  Check it out&#8230;</p>
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<p>Now, I have a few problems with this video&#8230;<span id="more-1105"></span></p>
<p>But before I get into the problems I have, I just want to preface this by saying I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of meeting Julian Foxx before.  He spoke at the Pick-Up Sumit here in Los Angeles two years ago, and to his credit, I think he&#8217;s got some great things to teach guys.</p>
<p>However, I think he&#8217;s good enough where he DOES NOT need to douche on two guys I consider friends, and two guys who are way more talented than he is.</p>
<p>Though I must admit, its a good strategy.  Take the two top guys in the market and tool them.  It makes you seem better than they are, even if you come off as a jackass.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s get to the issues I have with this video:</p>
<p>1.  Michael-Mooring on Style</p>
<p>I love how guys think of Pick Up as some type of sport that you can challenge other dudes at.  &#8220;Dude, let&#8217;s have a friendly pick up contest.&#8221;  Riiiiiiight.  Not only does such a thing completely relegate the women to nothing more than &#8220;points&#8221; you need to score, its also totally lame.  Neil was at a book signing, if he wanted to accept that chellenge, it wouldn&#8217;t have been hard to find the first female groupie in line to get her book signed.</p>
<p>But more than that, with all due respect to Julian&#8217;s skills, he&#8217;s a NOBODY.  Why would anyone compete with a nobody?  That just makes the nobody famous?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I felt it was a pretty shady tactic to pull there on Julian&#8217;s part.  But to Style&#8217;s credit, he really did deflect it well.</p>
<p>2.  No Such Challenge Was Issued To Mystery</p>
<p>I like how Julian went right from Neil suggesting he challenge Mystery, to Mystery in the club &#8211; as though Mystery accepted the challenge.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see Julian walk up to Mystery and do what he did with Neil.  Chances are Mystery would accept and crush the dude.  Mystery is one of the few guys I know who could win in a true &#8220;pick up challenge.&#8221;</p>
<p>3.  The Slap Isn&#8217;t A Slap</p>
<p>If you look at the video, Mystery didn&#8217;t really get slapped.  That girl put her hand on his cheek.  There was no follow through, Mystery did not recoil in the way one would if they had gotten slap, and there is no evidence there was an actual SLAP.  All there was, was a FAKE sound effect put over the touching of the cheek to make it seem like a slap.  Lame.</p>
<p>4.  Faulty Editing</p>
<p>If you follow a guy around with a camera long enough, you will definitely see him blow a few sets.  Even Mystery can&#8217;t get every girl he wants.  But Mystery is good enough where he CAN get girls, and I think this video was edited in such a way to mislead people about Mystery&#8217;s skills.</p>
<p>Honestly, no matter how much you may not like Mystery, the guy is GOOD.  I&#8217;m willing to bet he did pull that night.  But of course, the video didn&#8217;t show that.  All the bad things were highlighted, and none of the good things were showcased.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how anyone could watch this video and see it as anything but an attempted to compare Julian to the two top guys in the niche.  Good strategy, bad execution.</p>
<p>What do you guys think?</p>
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		<title>State Of The Community</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thundercat</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So yesterday I was graced with the presence of none other than the dynamic duo of fastseduction.com, Formhandle and TokyoPUA.&nbsp; They&#8217;re in LA visiting and I took them around town and hung out with them.&nbsp; I think the last time I had seen Formhandle was the 2004 PUA Summit at Project Hollywood, and this was the first time meeting TokyoPUA face to face.</p>
<p>Anyway, over lunch we had a lot of conversations about the &quot;state of the community.&quot;&nbsp; These guys basically get to see all the &quot;up-and-comers&quot; in the PUA world thanks to their involvement in the hub of the community, and I&#8217;m in somewhat of a similar position because of this blog.</p>
<p>Anyway, what we shared with each other wasn&#8217;t good.</p>
<p>Back in the &quot;heyday&quot; of the community (at least as the three of us saw it), we had a lot of original thinkers posting some great stuff.&nbsp; You had people like Mystery, Style, Toecutter, Swinggcat, Juggler, Ross Jeffries, Tyler Durden, and a whole slew of others posting ideas, theories, field reports, and tons of other things &#8211; all of which were interesting to read.</p>
<p>The big problem now is that there seems to be a void because these people have stopped sharing ideas and posting to the community portals.&nbsp; They&#8217;ve withdrawn.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think its because they&#8217;re all commercial and don&#8217;t want to post anymore, I think some of them are just busy living their lives and others have just lost interest in the community.</p>
<p>Which leaves the newbies&#8230;</p>
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<p>And what I mean by newbies are the &quot;Post-Game&quot;-ers who&#8217;ve migrated to the seduction community thanks to Neil&#8217;s book.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m all for Youngblood.&nbsp; I think we need new people coming in with new ideas and techniques and all that jazz.&nbsp; So I welcome everyone who&#8217;s coming in trying to be a &quot;guru.&quot;</p>
<p>But I think most of them are going about it the wrong way.</p>
<p>I get emails all the time asking me to link to a new blog, a new site, to post an article or a video or whatever because someone read the game and wants to make money teaching a workshop.&nbsp; But so much of what I see is just a rehashing of a watered-down version of Mystery Method.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s important to encourage people to foster new ideas and succeed &#8211; even if they do have commercial interest in the outcome.&nbsp; In the end, it&#8217;s really a benefit to everyone.</p>
<p>I think most of the post-Game &quot;gurus&quot; need to learn that these skills are first and foremost about helping men lead better lives, rather than just &quot;getting laid&quot; or &quot;making money.&quot;</p>
<p>So many men quietly suffer from lonliness, self-doubt, insecurity, and fear.&nbsp; They think getting laid will help them, make them feel better, but even if they do get laid, the feelings of happiness they&#8217;re searching for doesn&#8217;t last.</p>
<p>I look at Pick-Up as a form of self improvement, because before you can help othters, you always have to help yourself.&nbsp; It isn&#8217;t selfish, it&#8217;s just a fact.&nbsp; People who teach others will not only teach them their strengths, they will teach their weaknesses as well.&nbsp; So a lot of these young guys still don&#8217;t have enough experience with life, love, and overcoming their inner demons to be worth listening to.&nbsp; Having a new &quot;DHV&quot; or &quot;Opening Line&quot; is cool, but in the end, that stuff doesn&#8217;t really help anyone.&nbsp; It&#8217;s the experience and understanding that comes with self-growth that helps people.</p>
<p>If someone wants to become the next &quot;Mystery&quot; or &quot;Style,&quot; then they have to understand what these guys did that made them WORTH paying for.</p>
<p>Mystery overcame his fear of meeting women, and spent years helping others do it for free online before he began teaching his workshops.</p>
<p>Style spent years being an unpaid guest instructor for Mystery.&nbsp; He&#8217;d post some of the best shit you&#8217;ve ever read here and on other forums for free, because we was working through stuff and wanted others to give him feedback and help him understand what he needed to fix about himself.</p>
<p>This is the real crux of the issue to me.&nbsp; Because for these guys &#8211; improving themselves came first, helping others came second, and then the money followed.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a lesson everyone can benefit from.</p>
<p>So here is my challenge to all the &quot;up and comers&quot; out there.&nbsp; Can you grow as both a teacher and a student?&nbsp; Can you innovate and use 100% original material?&nbsp; Can you focus on helping others before you run off and try to start a business doing it?</p>
<p>I look forward to seeing if there&#8217;s any new blood out there that can actually accomplish this.</p>
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		<title>My Dinner With TheOne</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thundercat</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/18/03 Okay, so one of the perks of living in Los Angeles is that I get to hang out with some of the best of the best of the best that the seduction community has to offer. Los Angeles seems to be the Mecca for Pick-Up Artists, probably&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2004/02/04/my-dinner-with-theone/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/18/03</p>
<p>Okay, so one of the perks of living in Los Angeles is that I get to hang out with some of the best of the best of the best that the seduction community has to offer.  Los Angeles seems to be the Mecca for Pick-Up Artists, probably because of the constant influx of fresh-off-the-bus poon, mixed with the hippest night scene in the U.S. (shut up New York), and a healthy dose of celebrity elitism, and you got yourself a virtual PUA playground.</p>
<p>One of the PUAs out here is TheOne, who used to be called Maverick, but I guess he decided a name that started with вЂњTheвЂќ was more memorable.  Anyway, some of you may recognize TheOne as a fairly regular instructor at the Real Social DynamicвЂ™s workshop.  (Perhaps he changed his name because of all the gay TOP GUN jokes hurled at him by being Tyler&#8217;s wing?  Who knows.)  Regardless, TheOne was one of the first instructors I ever had.  It was him and Tyler who took my out my first night in the LA Mystery Method Workshop about 5 months ago (Has it been that long?  Dunno.  Gotta lay off the drugs).</p>
<p>As far as Game goes, TheOne is far from the best there is, but he&#8217;s a pretty solid dude who does get laid (though looking like Sylvester Stallone from &#8220;Cobra&#8221; doesn&#8217;t hurt, I&#8217;m sure).  So I like the guy enough to agree to have dinner with him when he calls me up a few days ago.</p>
<p>TheOne picks me up from work, and this is the first time I get to see him in his non-peacocking gear, which usually consists of black PVC pants and a form fitting black shirt, along with the occasional leather arm band.  Instead, he&#8217;s just in sweatpants and a muscle shirt, having just come from the gym (whether he was trying to impress me or not, who knows? =)</p>
<p>So we go to this Hawaiian BBQ place I know of and sit down for a nice dinner.  It&#8217;s cool hanging out with TheOne because unlike hanging out with someone like Mystery, I do not feel a pressure to sarge.  There&#8217;s nothing worse than trying to relax and enjoy a meal with the feeling that you should be gaming the waitresses and any female patron in sight, which is often an unfortunate side-effect of hanging with a juggernaught of PUA such as Mystery.</p>
<p>Anyway, we talk about a lot of things.  Community gossip, sticking points in our game, financial troubles, work woes, and JFK assassination theories.  In a way, it was a real eye opening experience for me because it had been a while since I&#8217;d hung out with someone from the community in a strictly &#8220;non-sarge&#8221; capacity.  It was just two dudes chilling in a restaurant enjoying some good food.</p>
<p>The thought struck me how funny it is that at the end of the day, we&#8217;re all just a bunch of regular guys.  On the internet, it&#8217;s so easy to attain &#8220;celebrity&#8221; or &#8220;guru&#8221; status just as long as you post prolifically and are able to spell above a kindergarten level.  In fact, there are a lot of guys out there who claim to be &#8220;seducers&#8221; or &#8220;pick-up artists&#8221;who never fucking leave their computer.</p>
<p>My dinner with TheOne made me realize just how many guys I&#8217;ve hung out with from the community.  Not only that, but hung out with them enough to see the internet persona go by the wayside and get a sense of the real people underneath.  And the truth is, once you get down to it, someone like Mystery, Style, Tyler Durden, Papa, TheOne, <a href="http://realworldseduction.directtrack.com/z/2/CD1/" target="_blank">Swinggcat</a>, and anyone else out there you read about (I&#8217;m including me in this) is pretty much just like every other guy out there.</p>
<p>This includes you, dear reader.</p>
<p>In fact, I get a lot of emails from guys saying how amazing I am and asking when/if I&#8217;ll ever do another workshop.  I find it odd how that works, because by any stretch of the imagination, I am NOT as good as some of these other guys when it comes to PUA, though I am better than others.  But to many of us in the community, PUA is a very small part of our lives.  Indeed, I have many other aspects of my life that I pursue, but PUA is a small (albeit important) part of my overall existence.</p>
<p>My point here is this:  Whether you are an AFC, RAFC, BAFC, or any other ridiculous acronym, chances are you are on par with most of the guys you read about.</p>
<p>What does this mean?</p>
<p>Simple.  If you guys are no different than us, then that means that you can easily be doing what we&#8217;re doing, which is going out and learning to pick-up girls.</p>
<p>Obviously, this is easier said than done.  Lots of guys are still suffering in this area, and in a way, that&#8217;s where people like TheOne and I stand out.  We have been able to overcome our fears and insecurities to the point where we are able to engage this area of our life with vigor and persistence most men can only dream of.</p>
<p>So in the coming days, weeks, months, or however long it takes, I&#8217;m going to be posting some stuff on how to help your inner game and how to start off approaching women.  I&#8217;ll give some examples, some theory, and maybe even a few homework assignments for you truly committed out there.  Hopefully I&#8217;ll even receive a few success stories to post up on the Lair.</p>
<p>In short, if I can do it, and TheOne can do it, you certainly can too.</p>
<p>Then you can open your own workshop and give Tyler a run for his money.  =)</p>
<p>Thundercat</p>
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