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		<title>Upcoming Paul Janka Seminar</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Janka has a new seminar coming up on August 30th.</p>
<p>The seminar is taking place in New York City.  You may remember that Paul Janka was on Dr. Phil showing off his spreadsheet of all the women he&#8217;s banged (4 of which were apparently prostitutes).</p>
<p>If you want to check out the info for Janka&#8217;s seminar, <a href="http://www.attractionformula.com/seminar" target="_blank">click here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Rave Reviews on ASF</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/16/03 Okay, so back at the DYD seminar in Chicago, I was tapped to be a guest instructor at the Papa/TD/Orion workshop. It was the first time I had ever really gone out instructing people in a &#8220;professional&#8221; capacity. I mean, I&#8217;ve been out bootcamping some local guys&#160;&#160;<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2004/02/04/rave-reviews-on-asf/">Read More Of This Article...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/16/03</p>
<p>Okay, so back at the <a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/dyd" target="_blank">DYD seminar</a> in Chicago, I was tapped to be a guest instructor at the Papa/TD/Orion workshop.  It was the first time I had ever really gone out instructing people in a &#8220;professional&#8221; capacity.  I mean, I&#8217;ve been out bootcamping some local guys on Sunset here in LA, but this was a workshop people were paying for, so I felt a certain pressure to do my best with helping the students to learn.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was referred to a review of the workshop one of the student&#8217;s put up on ASF.  The review is pretty good and fairly accurate from what I remember, even if the guy&#8217;s observations about the instructors are a bit off.</p>
<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s what he writes about me:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I meet up with Thundercat. Very cool dude. He says &#8220;Go approach that set. Say &#8216;female opinion: who lies more, men or women?&#8217;, then come back.&#8221; I do just that, chat the 3-set up for a few minutes more, then return to him for more assignments. He says &#8220;Go tell that girl on the dancefloor &#8216;Settle down! you&#8217;re going to make the other girls jealous!&#8217;&#8221; I do. Girl responds very well. Then she gives me a salute and yes &#8220;Yes, Sir!&#8221; She&#8217;s smiling big and into it. I go back for more assignments. Thundercat says go open 3 more sets with the opinion opener. I open two more sets. One girl avoided me, as she was ordering a drink. I return, tell Thundercat what happened. He asks how I feel. I said I hate being blown out, but that I feel fine and it&#8217;s not going to prevent me from approaching more.&#8221; No big deal he says. If it doesn&#8217;t work well, just say &#8220;nice meeting you&#8221; to leave the door open for future sarges with her.</p>
<p>I really wish we had time to give a background of ourselves at the lecture, but there wasn&#8217;t time in the mini-workshop. I think all the instructors think all the students are AFCs. I wish I had told Thundercat about my experience, as I was hanging in sets well, but I figured, Hell, I&#8217;m here to learn what these guys have to teach, so I want to use their openers, their techniques. I was hoping for more advanced assignments from him like &#8220;go get a kiss from that girl within 5 minutes!&#8221; That would have been cool, but he was off working with other students by then.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL. Go kiss a girl in 5 minutes!  Most of these guys can&#8217;t even TALK to women, let alone kiss them.  But this dude definitely stood out as someone who was comfortable in a club scene.  I do remember him being a bit more upset about getting blown out than he made it out to be.  He came up stuttering and looking a bit flustered, so I pulled him to the side and calmed him down.  If his writing style says anything about him, its that he could be a real presence on ASF if he ups his field outtings.  You can read the whole thread here:</p>
<p>http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?118549,24</p>
<p>I find it a fascinating read because it came from a truly neutral source.  This was a dude who didn&#8217;t know any of us, least of all me, yet he gave me good reviews on my teaching style.  I guess there&#8217;s a twinge of pride there, knowing I help someone out.  Though Chicago for me sucked.  One thing that became painfully obvious was that if I&#8217;m teaching other guys how to pick-up, I can&#8217;t do any pick-ups myself.  It was terrible, and its for that reason why I will probably never teach at an actual in-field workshop again.  It was a good experience, I&#8217;m glad I did it, but its too much work not to get paid for.</p>
<p>I know Harmless has talked about bringing me in as a guest speaker/instructor when he starts his workshops, but I&#8217;m on the fence about doing it right now.  We&#8217;ll have to wait and see I suppose.  It depends on how my finances are doing at the time.</p>
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