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<blockquote><p><strong>VenusianArtist writes:</strong><br />The gym is a gold mine<br />
for HBs! It&#8217;s full of women who take care of themselves and have high<br />
social value. Most of them are half naked, so you get a good view of<br />
their body up front. Plus, unlike nightclubs, there is actually<br />
lighting so you can see what they look like! And you are not battling<br />
beer goggles (hopefully)!!</p>
<p>A lot of PUAs stay away from sarging at the gym for a number of<br />
reasons. Common deterents, fears, and SPs I have about in previous<br />
posts on gym sarging are:</p>
<p>1. Awkwardness for the rest of your membership if it goes badly.<br />2. Pre-rejection (opposite of pre-selection) to all other HB witnesses at the gym that day.<br />3. Feeling too grose and sweaty to sarge.<br />4. Coming off as rude by interupting her workout.<br />5. Her assuming you are hitting on just by talking to her even if you are not!<br />6. Most girls wear headphones.</p>
<p>I can guarentee you, there are ways around all of these limitations.</p>
<p>There have been a number of suggestions and successful field reports<br />
here and on other boards. Definitely some good advice in previous posts<br />
and proof that sarging successfully at the gym is possible. However, I<br />
have tried just about everything with little success until recently.<br />
Over the years I have had the advantage of switching gyms every year or<br />
two, so I have been able to try some weird stuff without much<br />
akwardness endured later on. After a rough stretch, I have finally put<br />
together enough material to do well.</p>
<p>99% of guys at the gym approach by trying to show the HB how to do<br />
an exercise or change their form. The advantage to this approach is<br />
teaching is a DHV in itself, so immediately you are demonstrating<br />
value. This works for certain HBs, especially girls that are new to<br />
weight training. It has worked a few times for me, but it does little<br />
to set me apart from the AFCs and it definitely does not work for HBs<br />
that actually know their way around the gym. </p>
<p>My way around that is to understand and acknowledge that she gets<br />
approached by meat-heads all the time. Show her that you understand her<br />
perspective by saying: &#8216;Hey the last thing I want to be like is one of<br />
those guys trying to pick up girls by showing them how to do an<br />
exercise, but let me show you something my friend showed me to make<br />
that exercise a little more effective.&#8217; Another tactic is to mockingly<br />
show her an exercise as if you are making fun of the guys that do that.<br />
Take an overly macho pose and use a fake-sounding low voice so she<br />
knows that you are not being serious. After showing her the exercise,<br />
say something like &#8216;So is there where I go for the phone number?&#8217; Then<br />
crack a smile. That opens up for questions like: &#8216;So how often does<br />
that happen to you?&#8217; OR &#8216;What is the weakest line a guy has used on you<br />
in the gym?&#8217;</p>
<p>With fit girls, who are my normal targets, I have had the most<br />
success taking the exact opposite approach to teaching her. It&#8217;s so<br />
simple and works almost every time. There are limitations, but this<br />
technique has been the best of all I have tried. I ask HER to teach ME<br />
something. You may think it is AFC or whatever, but this has the same<br />
effect as an opinion opener. I start by rooting the opener to show her<br />
that I know about the subject and I am just looking for her to teach me<br />
something new. This is field-tested and works more often than not for<br />
me. As long as you keep a strong frame and body language, you will<br />
communicate all the right things. For example:</p>
<p>Notice a girl that is wearing varsity athletic gear or just looks<br />
like an athlete/dancer (based on her physique or the exercises she is<br />
doing). I&#8217;ve done this successfully 15-20 times now. Last month, I met<br />
a track girl and it went something like this&#8230;</p>
<p>Me: Hey are you on the track team by any chance?<br />HB: Yes.<br />Me:<br />
Awesome. Listen, I am in a rush today, so I need to finish up my<br />
workout soon. But I have been trying for the longest time to find some<br />
good plyometrics to develop my fast twitch fibres and quickness. Did<br />
your coach or trainer give you any exercises that you could show me<br />
quickly?<br />HB: Yeah for sure.</p>
<p>She went on to show the exercise. After the exercise demonstration,<br />
I will usually give a backhanded compliment or a compliment with a soft<br />
neg/release. Example:</p>
<p>Me: Wow. Fit and smart. You are like every woman&#8217;s fantasy. A jock<br />
with brains&#8230; except for the whole being a woman thing [smile]. That&#8217;s<br />
awesome. I am going to try that out for sure. I have to get back to my<br />
workout. Thanks. I&#8217;ll see you around.</p>
<p>The next day I saw her, I thanked her and got her name. Usually, I<br />
tell an amusing story about the exercise(s), the progress I&#8217;ve made,<br />
and maybe some playful negs. Might ask a rapport-building question or<br />
two. Example:</p>
<p>Me: Hey, I tried that exercise you showed me the other day. It hurt<br />
like hell the next day and I have gotten zero results so far. Are you<br />
sure you are on the track team?<br />HB (laughing): Yes.<br />Me: I&#8217;m only kidding. It&#8217;s actually a cool exercise. You know what I discovered? Have you ever tried it like this&#8230; <br />[Then<br />
I demonstrate some way of modifying the exercise to work other muscle<br />
groups. Ideally, I work in some kino by touching the body part that my<br />
modified exercise works] &#8211;&gt; NOW YOU ARE TEACHING HER!<br />NOTE to newbies: Be sure to know your stuff at the gym so the modification actually makes sense!<br />HB: No, I haven&#8217;t tried that<br />Me: You&#8217;re welcome. Figured I owed you one&#8230; sorry what&#8217;s your name?<br />HB: Kim<br />Me: Alright, Kim, have a good workout.<br />HB: Thanks. You too.</p>
<p>Ended the thread, went back to my workout and reopened later taking an interest in her this time:</p>
<p>Me: So what are your events?<br />HB: 200 and 400 meters.<br />Me: Wow.<br />
I ran those a bit in high school. It always amazed me how long 400<br />
meters felt, especially after running 100s or 200s. It literally felt<br />
like the race was never going to end! I&#8217;ve gotta give you some props<br />
for that. [fist pump]<br />HB: Yeah, it&#8217;s a tough event for sure.<br />NOTE: I am friends with and have gamed enough track athletes that I know a bit about this sport, and that definitely helps!<br />Me: Hey, did you hear about that amputee sprinter from South Africa that is trying to qualify for the regular olympics?<br />HB: No<br />Me: He&#8217;s amazing. He&#8217;s running a 10.9 100!&#8230; etc<br />NOTE:<br />
True story and very interesting. If possible, mention a cool story<br />
that&#8217;s in the news about her sport. Very nice touch for adding some<br />
rapport.</p>
<p>Nice compliment/disqualifier to use: <br />&#8216;You seem like you have a<br />
lot going for you. If I wasn&#8217;t so against meeting women at the gym, I<br />
have probably asked for your number by now.&#8217;</p>
<p>The next few approaches I will normally mix up casual &#8216;hello&#8217;s with<br />
a bit of DHVs, rapport, and qualifying. I also chat other HBs regularly<br />
at the gym for some preselection effect. Usually, after 15 to 30 min of<br />
total elasped sarging, I will get a day 2 or number close.</p>
<p>Same technique works for:</p>
<p>1. Dancers -&gt; ask about good stretches for your back or something<br />2. Runners -&gt; ask about interval training, or time goal vs. distance goal training <br />3. Just about any other athletic girl. Just think of a type of training that they do that you might be interested in learning. </p>
<p>If you are not sure what she is training for, just make a guess. If<br />
you are wrong, just tell her that she really looks serious about her<br />
fitness and ask her something about her program anyways.</p>
<p>Other types of gym openers that work:</p>
<p>1. Compliments (eg., This is going to break my rule of not meeting<br />
women at the gym, but I could not help but notice you. I am completely<br />
captivated by you and I just had to ask if you were blessed with<br />
amazing fitness genes or if you worked really hard to look as good as<br />
you do.)<br />2. Funny statements/questions (eg., Anchorman quote: &#8217;1001,<br />
1002, 1003. Oh it burns! It&#8217;s a deep burn. So deep. Oh I can bearly<br />
lift my right arm cuz I did so many. I don&#8217;t know if you heard me<br />
counting. I did over a thousand. Tuesdays arms and back. You have your<br />
ubulous muscle, which attaches to your upper dorsimus. It&#8217;s boring but<br />
it&#8217;s my life.&#8217;)<br />3. Ambiguous statments (like backhanded compliments)<br />4. Questions (eg., asking to work in on a machine)<br />5. Giving advice (see above)<br />6. Asking advice/opinion (see above)<br />7. Role-playing and games (eg., Asking girls on treadmills: &#8216;Hey, wanna race?&#8217;. Credit: FratGuy 03/11/07)<br />8.<br />
Quick hook and introduction (eg., Point to a sweat spot on a machine<br />
and say &#8216;Wow, I can&#8217;t believe there are still people that don&#8217;t clean<br />
the machine after using it.&#8217; Then clean it and say: &#8216;You know I don&#8217;t<br />
think I have met you yet. What&#8217;s your name?&#8217;)<br />9. Joking insults/teasing (eg., telling a REALLY fit girl she needs to work harder)<br />10. Offering AI&#8217;s (eg., &#8216;That&#8217;s a good colour for you.&#8217; &#8211; refering to her shirt)</p>
<p>Tips for girls with headphones:</p>
<p>- tap her and open normally or ask:<br />PUA: Hey, do those headphones work?<br />HB: Yeah, why?<br />PUA:<br />
No I mean do they keep guys from talking to you in the gym? Because a<br />
lot of women have been hitting on me lately, I think I might have to<br />
try those out.<br />(credit: Antman)</p>
<p>Advice for reframing your beliefs for gym sarges or any potentially awkward situation (credit: Mike)</p>
<p>In situations like this that involve a potentially awkward approach, think to yourself:<br />1. Will she think this is awkward? Yes.<br />2. Will this awkwardness cause her to feel nervous and maybe a bit intimidated? Yes.<br />3. Is her being in a position of nervousness a situation I can capitalize on? Yes.</p>
<p>Guidelines of sarging at the gym:</p>
<p>1. Smell your best. Don&#8217;t be stinky. Seems simple enough, but how<br />
often have you seen a dude at the gym that smells like a moldy<br />
jockstrap? It&#8217;s because he can&#8217;t smell himself! Neither can you. No one<br />
can! So double check every now and then.<br />2. Look your best. Don&#8217;t<br />
wear wife-beater tank tops&#8230; especially if they have stains! Wearing<br />
colour-coordinated gear helps DHV on its own.<br />3. Wait for right<br />
time. Don&#8217;t sarge a woman in the middle of an exercise or while she is<br />
being instructed by a personal trainer. The best situations are<br />
stretching, on way out, on treadmills, in between sets, or by the water<br />
fountain.<br />4. Be social with everyone around the gym. Make friends<br />
with women, men, and staff. This provides some pre-selection and<br />
demonstrates that it is normal for you to talk to people. Open guys by<br />
asking for a spot, ask about an exercise, joke about the weight he&#8217;s<br />
using when he is lifting a huge amount &#8216;light day, huh?&#8217;&#8230; give him a<br />
head nod or say &#8216;what&#8217;s up?&#8217; next time you see him. <br />5. The basic<br />
principles of the approaching apply to gym approaches (smile,<br />
non-direct angle of shoulders, body rocking, false time constraint, etc)<br />6.<br />
Make the false time constraint a point of emphasis. Be sure to tell her<br />
you are in rush to back to your workout. Wearing a stopwatch around<br />
your neck and glacing at it during the convo is a great non-verbal<br />
time-constraint. It&#8217;s also great for timing your rest in between sets.<br />
(Credit: rockdon)<br />7. Use some kino in your routines, but avoid<br />
touching with body parts that are overly sweaty, like your palms. Fist<br />
pumps and touching over the clothing (rather than skin to skin) work<br />
well.<br />8. Do the sarge in pieces. Open and approach on day 1 to gain<br />
familiarity. Focus on boosting value and rapport in small doses each<br />
day after that.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. Enjoy!</p>
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<p>Good stuff.&nbsp; Next time I&#8217;m at the gym, I&#8217;ll have to apply a few of these principles.</p>
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