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		<title>Initial Fear of the Approach</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/22/03</p>
<p>Someone on the DC list asked a pretty good question about <a href="http://www.artofapproaching.com" target="_blank">approaching</a> and fear of the approach.  They talked about how hard it was to approach women initially in SS.  I think this is a pretty valid point, because the first stage in anyone&#8217;s development as a seducer or pick-up artists is to learn how to approach girls.</p>
<p>Speaking as someone who comes from an SS background, I can feel for guys who are going through this.  IMO, SS is one of the WORST systems for helping guys learn to cold approach.  When I was just doing strict SS, I could not cold-approach to save my life.  In fact, some of the best Speed Seducers I know cannot cold approach.  They get most of their lays through social circles or the internet.  That said, cold approaching is just very hard in general.</p>
<p>The best way to get over this, in my opinion, is to attend an in-field workshop.  I know there was one in DC recently taught by Tyler Durden.  Nothing helps more than having live, in-field instruction and demonstration by experienced people who can help you troubleshoot and guide you through the process.  The only people doing this currently that I know of is Tyler Durden, Mystery, Badboy, and Harmless, who will be starting his workshops up in the coming months.  That said, workshops are very &#8220;shit or get off the pot&#8221; in their nature.  They will kick-start you into approaching, but they are NOT very conducive to mental masturbators and armchair seducers, so be sure you are prepared for it.</p>
<p>Short of that, hooking up with other guys who do this stuff is the best way to go.  I know a lot of guys in the DC area are getting together on a regular basis to wing each other, which is a great way to learn.  I started up my own lair in LA to help me out.  Sometimes, just having others to talk to about this shit is good to help increase your skills.</p>
<p>The hardest part about approaching is just overcoming that fear of rejection.  We all become so conditioned to avoiding emotional pain, that we get that knot in our stomachs every time we are about to talk to a girl we find attractive.  The best guys I&#8217;ve seen at this have no fear of approaching because they are able to detach themselves from the outcome.  Whenever you see a beautiful girl you wanna bang, you give her a lot of sexual power over you, which you then have to go about trying to regain in order to effectively sarge her.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m doing in my game right now is getting to the point where I do not feel the need to give the girl that power.  Where my inner game has hit such a level that I do not have to get validation from a girl.  Its a tough thing to do, and something I&#8217;m struggling with.  But all I have to do is look at someone like <a href="http://www.enlightenedseduction.com" target="_blank">Zan</a>, who is completely free of all that bullshit, to the point where he naturally attracts people to him.  Its a very powerful and congruent way to live your life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably talk about this more later.  Right now I gotta run.  Gonna hang out with my brother and his hippy friends.</p>
<p>Thundercat</p>
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