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Buy avodart without prescription, Welcome one and all to the Top 10 list of best Pick Up Artists for the year 2008.

2008 was a strange year - for me personally, and for a lot of others, I think.  In many ways, I'm glad the year is over.  But regardless of how good of a year it was, there were many people in the seduction community who continued to rise above petty squabbles and drama and actually help other men improve their lives and their success with women, and this list is a CELEBRATION of those men, who have helped others throughout the past year.

For those of you new to the list, cheapest avodart prices, let me explain how the rankings work.  It becomes very easy to get "caught up" in the hype of certain personalities, so I try and rank the Top 10 based on a number of criteria, which I believe must be present to be considered a good "PUA."  So all of this years winners were ranked based on:

1.  In-Field Performance.  This is basically the skills the PUA displays in the field with women.  Most Top 10s deal with this factor exclusively, but I've found that just looking at a guy's in-field performance can be misleading, since people have off-nights or can get lucky.  That said, their ability to use the techniques in field repeatedly and consistently to get results is a big, big factor in the ranking process. Cheap avodart from canada, 2.  Innovations.  This is what new outlook or techniques the PUA brings to the table.  It's easy for any new guy to get good using Mystery Method or any other school of seduction, but then again, that stuff is designed to work!  So being innovative and bringing a new twist, spin, philosophy, technique, or whatever to the mix is also a big deal, because that means the PUA actually has something to contribute to his students and the community as a whole that no one else does.

3.  Teaching Ability.  This is how effectively the PUA can teach what he does to other people, drug avodart online purchase, and have them get similar results.  This is another important factor, because it weeds out the people who are just the lucky naturals, and finds the PUAs who have something to offer humanity as a whole.  After all, I don't care if a guy gets laid a lot.  I care if that guy can get ME laid a lot - and I think the same is true for you.  That is why I factor in the PUA's ability to teach others into the ranking.

4.  Contributions To The Community.  This is a measure of how much the PUA "gives back" to others in the seduction community.  This factor is all about the PUA's willingness to help others, the knowledge and experience he's willing to share, and the compassion he shows to those who need help.  Too many PUAs look down on people not as successful with women as they are, and that's not what the seduction community is about, so giving back to it should play a factor, in my opinion, buy avodart without prescription.

5.  Philosophy.  This comes down to the PUA's outlook on life, women, and other men in general.  It's about how they live their lives, Buy avodart online cheap, and whether they're consistent with it.  Some PUAs spout great philosophy, but don't really believe in it or practice it.  But it's that core foundations which will influence their students, so I believe this is important in factoring the rankings.

6.  Likability.  One of the things I base my ranking on is whether I actually like the PUA or not.  This is a subjective thing, but I feel its important, because there's usually a reason I don't like someone, and that reason has to do with them being a fake, fraud, evil bastard, cheap avodart in canada, or what have you.  I like to think I have a fairly decent "B.S. Radar," so when I meet a PUA in person, I can usually tell if they are legit or not after getting to know them, which is why I tend to rank PUAs I have actually met in real life.  If I haven't met them, I need to get good feedback from at least 3 sources I trust to make the decision to rank them in this category.

Okay, No rx avodart, so now that you know how I rank the list, let's get to it.

The Top 10 PUAs Of 2008!


1.  Brad P.

Buy avodart without prescription, Choosing the #1 Pick Up Artist of 2008 was a difficult decision, since there were so many great choices, but in the end, I had to give the edge to Brad P.  Last year, I ranked Brad P. as #5, but in 2008 I really got to know Brad better and got to see what he was up to.

First off, I have to say that Brad is, in my opinion, the most prolific PUA working right now.  Not only does the guy have a workshop schedule that would make an Olympic Athlete break down and cry (yes, Brad actually teaches all his workshops himself), find discount avodart online, he also is able to produce an insane number of products teaching guys everything from planning the perfect date to what kind of clothes to wear out to the club.

Brad also has an excellent course which he calls his 30/30 club.  This is a monthly course where Brad himself actually makes the content - no minions do the work for him - and it is quite excellent.

Brad also is an incredible innovator.  When I first ranked him, I thought he was a borderline Mystery Method clone, but the more I got to learn about his methods, the more I saw that they were very original.  This is a guy who I believe will actually take the community in new and exciting directions in the future.

Brad is also a great teacher.  He has an uncanny knack for explaining what he does to others, and help them to get similar results.  The guy is also not afraid to demonstrate - on demand - his techniques.  Obviously, sometimes Brad crashes and burns (a fact he readily admits), but part of Brad's charm is that he's not the "uber guru" who can do the infamous five-out-of-five.  Rather, he's a normal guy, but he tends to succeed more than he fails, and he does so with incredible creativity and good humor, buy avodart without prescription.

Brad is the type of guy who is willing to bend over backwards for his students.  He may be sick, Avodart discount, exhausted, and not feel like approaching a girl, but if a student is in trouble, he'll still push himself to demonstrate and show the guy how its done.

Brad also has a great attitude.  He readily talks about coming from a troubled upbringing which helped him form a very positive outlook on life and a great deal of self discipline.  There is no ego to Brad, which makes him very easy to relate to.  He really is the type of guy men want to be friends with and women want to be with, and he handles it extremely well.

Plus, Brad gets some wicked attractive girls.  It seems like every time I talk to the guy he's got a different girl coming over, low cost avodart, lol.

If you'd like to learn more about Brad P, you can visit his website at www.BradPPresents.com

2.  AFC Adam Lyons


Last year I debuted Adam at #3 in my Top 10 list, but this year he's moved up to #2.  I must say, it was a hard decision NOT to give the guy the #1 spot this year, since Adam is, without a doubt, Canada avodart, one of the hottest up-and-coming stars in the community in my humble opinion. Buy avodart without prescription, As some of you are well aware, Adam and I have become good friends since we first met in 2007, and he's even co-hosted my podcast.  So surely, some people are going to cry fowl that I'm ranking him so highly.  To those people, I say - "If you don't believe me, believe what you see for yourself."

Adam has tons and TONS of video out on the internet that proves this guy's skill.  Everything from a one-minute kiss close to getting a threesome, all with girls most guys would cut their right arm off to get a shot at.

Adam is, for lack of a better word, absolutely crazy.  He is the "mad genius" of pick up, willing to do whatever just to see if it works, so as an innovator, he's at the top.  Most of this stems from the fact that Adam, more than any other PUA I've met, likes to have FUN, order avodart without prescription, and as we all know, fun is attractive to women.

Speaking of which, Adam has been criticized by some because he's one of the prominent PUAs out there with a real, live girlfriend.  The typical argument is "How can a guy with a girlfriend possibly teach me how to get girls?"  Well, speaking from experience, relationship game is like the uber-high-level mark of a master PUA, Buy avodart in us, so a guy who's in a healthy relationship with a girl is probably more qualified to teach others about women than most love-em-and-leave-em PUAs.

Adam has also been hard at work teaching workshops all over the world, and is a staple in the lairs and various events within the community.  This probably makes him the most accessible PUA out there for many.  He's a prolific poster, and he's willing to meet pretty much anyone.

Adman's new website, AttractionExplained.com, is just getting going, but it's sure to be a great resource with Adam teaching everyone through video instruction.  In fact, Adam has also appeared on a number of other products released in 2008 - none of which were his own!  So its obvious that not only does he have a lot to offer, discount avodart, but we've only scratched the surface of what Adam is going to be contributing to the community.

And when it comes to his students, very few others inspire such loyalty and devotion.  The fact is, much like Brad P., Adam's students actually get RESULTS, which is the best indicator of whether a PUA is legit.  Adam's "no game" game is easy to learn, effective, and super-fun to do, buy avodart without prescription.

Adam is also a great guy, who's always got something fun and positive to say.  That great attitude, combined with his skills as a teacher and a pick up artist, make him one of the best out there in my opinion.  It will be interesting to see how he fares in 2009, especially against the likes of Brad P.

Learn more about Adam at www.AttractionExplained.com

3.  Style


Yes, Certified avodart, what Top 10 list would be complete without the Godfather himself - Style!  I'm sure you're all aware of my undying fondness of Neil and his skills, having ranked the man as #1 almost consistently since I started the Top 10 back in 2004.  Last year he lost out to Mystery, slipping to #2, and this year he drops one more point to #3.

But make no mistake - I was seriously considering ranking Style at #1 this year again.  After all, if you had a No-Holds-Barred Steel Cage match between Style, Brad P, and AFC Adam, I am convinced the only man left standing at the end would be Neil.  The sheer skill level this man has in social situations dwarfs anything seen by either Brad P, avodart medicine. or Adam. Buy avodart without prescription, But alas, this ranking is not just about skill.  One of the unfortunate side-effects of being one of "the best" in the game is that you'll naturally withdraw from the mere mortals who got you there in the first place.  Style was marginally quiet in 2008, mostly because he was writing some new books that had nothing to do with the Game.

However, through his Stylelife company, he still contributed a number of great works, and his seminars were amazing - crossing the "community" barrier to bring in speakers for various different aspects of a guy's life, like health, fitness, Avodart sales, work, time management, etc.

Neil also continues to pull some of the hottest girls I've ever seen, and considering that he's getting older, not growing any more hair on his head, and still isn't winning any modeling contracts, says a great deal about the guy.

I know Style has gotten a lot of flack recently - mostly from Barry Kirkey, avodart online stores, but a good bit from Stephane and other haters as well - but darn it!  I still like the guy!  And I think he's got a lot to offer others, when he wants to.  Probably the reason I ranked him at #3 is because Style is not as forthcoming as he used to be when it comes to interacting with the community, and we've seen very little innovation from the guy in 2008 (though he usually keeps his new stuff to himself, to be fair).

Regardless, there is still no one better in the community to study and learn from than Style, in my humble opinion.  I am still amazed at this guy's skill, Avodart cheapest price, and he was just narrowly beat out this year by two rising stars.

Learn more about Style at:  www.StyleLife.com

4.  Mystery


Like Style, no Top 10 list would be complete without Mystery!  The original Grandmaster Poo-Ah of the community is still alive and kicking, though he did drop out of the #1 spot from last year down to number four.  Why such a drop, buy avodart without prescription.

Well, I don't think anyone can argue that 2007 was Mystery's year.  But 2008 saw very little of the man.  The second season of his TV show came and went without much fan fare, the only major product his company released wasn't even made by him, and he lost the lawsuit against his former business partner, and his company was forced to admit they misrepresented their claims against them.

On the brighter side of things, Mystery actually was back out in the field teaching workshops again, however, avodart purchase, because of his celebrity the argument can be made that he doesn't have to work too hard at it anymore.

Plus, we have seen almost NOTHING new from Mr. Marchovich in 2008.  He's still dressing in the same clothes he was three years ago, he's still teaching the same method he was back in the day, and very little has changed. Buy avodart without prescription, However, when it comes to pure raw talent with the ladies, personality, and teaching, it is hard to say there is anyone better than Mystery.  The guy pioneered many of the techniques that have been used and co-opted in other people's systems.  In fact, I'd say that about 85% of all the material taught out there can be traced back to Mystery.  So even if he falls short on innovation, he'll always have a solid standing because of the fact that almost everything taught in the community stems from his teachings.

I would really like to see Mystery contribute more to the community in 2009, Avodart no rx, and have him show us something new.  I think if he could do that, he could re-claim the top spot next year.

To learn more about Mystery, please visit:  www.VenusianArts.com

5.  Sinn


Yes, we have a new edition to the list this year!  The one-and-only (well, the one and only with two "n"s in his name) Sinn.

2008 saw Sinn break away from his position as Top Instructor at the Love Systems company, and break out on his own.  Since then, the guy has been firing up a storm of controversy, cheap avodart, not only with hilarious (and sometimes instructional) videos, but also with his willingness to talk smack about pretty much everybody he hates in the community.

Despite the firestorm around him, I have heard amazing things about Sinn.  I've met him once and talked to him on the phone a few times, but its what I hear from a number of trusted sources that really makes me sit up and take notice of this guy.

Just glancing at his amazing blog, you can see the knowledge and skill this guy has, and his contributions to the community seemingly never end.  His core foundations are still in Mystery Method, but he is taking it to new and exciting places.  (Like, the bathroom, for instance.  LOL)

I also hear very good things about his skill as an instructor.  The students who train with him seem to almost always have glowing reviews about their experiences, buy avodart without prescription.

I was really looking forward to hanging out with the guy in a more social atmosphere in 2009.  Unfortunately, when he was in town, Avodart free delivery, I was called away because of a death in my family, and that never happened.  But Sinn, if you want to come and party for a weekend in LA, you got my number bro.

Frankly, I think Sinn has the potential to be a real player in the next Top 10 list for 2009.  If you'd like to learn more about Sinn, you can go to:  SinnsOfAttraction.com

6.  Swinggcat


Down from #4 last year is Swinggcat.  Why the two-point drop?  Well, the biggest reason is because of Swinngcat's lack of participation in the community.  2008 saw one new product release, no new articles, order discount avodart, no forum posts, no blog entries, and no appearances at any community events.

In fact, the only reason for ranking Swinggcat at all for 2008 is based on his skill as a PUA.  Other than Brad P, I don't think I've ever seen anyone who goes out to pick up women as much.  The sheer number of women passing through Swinggcat's bed night after night is mind boggling.  If the guy ever decideds to write a book detailing every sexual encounter he has, I'll be the first in line to buy it, Compare avodart prices online, because when he tells me about them in person, they are the most funny, fascinating, and interesting examples of master attraction game you can ever hear.

The fact remains that there are very few people in the community as talented as Swinggcat when it comes to generating attraction with a girl at will.  The man is an evil genius.  I believe he updated his ebook in 2008 to reflect the changes he's made to his game, so he trying to make an attempt to keep teaching the best he has to offer, I just wish he'd be a little more outgoing with his students. Buy avodart without prescription, If you'd like to learn more about Swinggcat, you can go to:  www.RealWorldSeduction.com

7.  Cajun


Another new face on the Top 10 this year is Love Systems instructor Cajun.  I must admit, I have never met Cajun in person, but the buzz surrounding him is louder than a passing freight train.

I was scheduled to speak at the Love System's superconference in 2008, and Cajun was one of the guys I was secretly very interested in meeting.  Unfortunately, cheap avodart on internet, my grandfather passed away, and his funeral was the weeked I was scheduled to attend the event, so I missed out on my opportunity.

That said, I've found it hard to find someone who's had anything BAD to say about Cajun and his skills.  The first example Nick Savoy gave me of the quality of Love System's instructors was Cajun, and he's appeared on numerous television shows flaunting his skills.

Not only that, Cheap avodart tablets, but his students seem very impressed with him.  I've been reading workshop reviews of the guy, and I'm hard pressed to find one that didn't have good things to say.

Could Cajun be a player in 2009?  Quite possibly.  I really want to keep a good eye on him and see what he has to offer.

You can learn more about Cajun at: www.LoveSystems.com

8.  David Wygant


I struggled with whether or not to put David Wygant on the list this year.  The man will be the first to admit that he isn't a "pick up artist," so to speak.  And there are some traits about him that worry me a little.  However, I cannot argue that the man has game, buy avodart without prescription.

First of all, David is probably the OLDEST person on this list, being in his mid-to-late 40s.  Yet, he still is able to get some very attractive women.  The guy is also Mr. Charisma.  Give him a minute to talk your ear off, and you can't help but be enraptured by the guy, avodart overnight.

Out of all the people on the list, David Wygant is most like "Hitch" from the movie.  He doesn't do bootcamps, focusing on the one-on-one dating doctor style.  David puts more of a focus on Day Game, and meeting women naturally as you go about your life.  He tends to stay out of the bar/club scene (a factor which is older clients really love).  In fact, he says the best place to meet women is while waiting in line.

Probably the biggest reason I decided to rank David in this year's list is because 2008 saw him actively reaching out to the Seduction Community.  He's begun to be more involved, not only as a guest speaker at seminars, Avodart approved, but also in other people products, making a notable appearance in videos created by both Mehow and Johnny Wolf. Buy avodart without prescription, The one criticism I have of David's game is that I've found he tends to rely too much on his dog as prop.  Seriously, he takes his dog EVERYWHERE.  His typical MO is to sit outside with his dog at a coffee shop and wait for girls to come up and start playing with his pooch.  That's not to say he can't get a girl without the dog, he certainly can, but this just seems like a lazy technique to me.

That being said, there is no denying David's skill as both a PUA and a teacher.  His website is full of great information, ranging from his blog to his product.  David is also notable because he gives free lifetime email support to his clients.  The man spends most of his time on his Blackberry answering questions from frazzled clients, fer crying out loud.

I can also see David really striking a chord with the older crowd in the community, since he's probably the oldest guy out there (legitimately) teaching this stuff.

You can find out more about David at:  www.DavidWygant.com

9.  Zan


Another mainstay on the Top 10 is Zan, avodart pharmacy, who drops this year to #9 from #7.  Why the drop?  Well, its not because Zan has gotten worse or diminished in skill in any way.  Its just that there were 8 others who I felt had more to contribute than Zan did in 2008.

The fact remains that Zan is still one of my all-time favorite teachers of the art of seduction.  You'll be hard pressed to find a man more awesome than Zan.  The dude is always positive, always glowing with great energy, and always supportive.  I honestly don't think I've ever met anyone who did NOT like Zan, which is quite a feat considering the politics in the seduction community.

When it comes to philosophy and life outlook, Zan is hands-down #1.  His attitude puts all the others to shame.  The only reason to rank Zan so low is because his strengths as a PUA are SO philosophical, they are hard to teach.  That's not to say Zan can't teach them - he does, and quite well I might add.  But someone who does not have good confidence in themselves will be hard-pressed to put them into action, buy avodart without prescription.

Zan is also the second oldest person on the list, No prescription avodart, yet I always see him with very attractive young women.  I'm sure most of you know Zan is famous for having 6 girlfriends, all at one time, who knew about each other AND had sex with each other (and him of course).  Very few PUAs can inspire that kind of behavior in women, and Zan is one of them.

Zan was also very busy traveling in 2008, making appearances at a number of community events.  Zan has always been great at "giving back" to other guys, even when there's nothing in it for him, which makes him a superstar in my book.  Hopefully, I'll be able to rank him higher next year, cost of avodart.

To learn more about Zan, you can visit:  www.EnlightenedSeduction.com

10.  Nick Savoy


Again, probably another PUA I'd rank higher on the list if I had gotten more of a chance to check him out inn action this past year.  I've known Nick for some time, but never really thought of him as a PUA until recently.  Now that he is no longer in Mystery's shadow, he's stepped up to shine as a pick up artist in his own right.

Savoy is another PUA who has a girlfriend, who is also a porn star (though I don't know if she's just a girl who does porn, Avodart us, or who is actually a well-known adult actress).  So the fact that he can actually have a relationship with a girl who works in a crazy industry like that says a lot about his ability to regulate his relationship when he needs to. Buy avodart without prescription, Savoy also put on two super-conferences for Love Systems in 2008, which is a great way to give back to the community.  His operation of the Love Systems company has really given a lot of positive light to the seduction community, such as his famous appearance on the Dr. Phil show, which made him look like an angel when compared to the vile Mine'99.

Savoy is also known for picking up a runway model at the Playboy mansion in 2008, and he's also getting a reputation for threesomes as well.  Hopefully, if all goes well in 2009, I'll get to see his game for myself and give him a more fair ranking next year.  But right now, I have to rely on what I hear.

To learn more about Savoy, drug avodart, you can go to:  www.LoveSystems.com

Other Notable 2008 Milestones


Best Community Portal:  Revolution 31


2008 gave us the rise of Barry Kirkey.  Some may think that's actually a BAD thing, but gosh darn it, I still laugh my ass off at Barry, even when he's giving me some undeserved shit.  But you can't deny that no one has taken the scene by storm like Barry has.  His goof of a podcast quickly turned into the undeniable center of community drama.  His shows range from brilliant to barely listenable, but his genius as a commentator and humorist never fails to come through.  That, and the fact that he's actually got the discipline to put on a full blown show every day is nothing short of astounding.

Best New Pick Up Artist:  Psych


I never heard of Psych until this past year, Buy avodart on internet, but since then I've heard nothing but good things.  His videos lampooning RSD's Alex are things of legend, and his skills have been touted to me by more than a few people who's opinions I trust.  I hope 2009 will bring us more of him.

Best Product Of 2008:  Brad P's 30/30 Club


Okay, aside from my own products (hey, I'm biased, so sue me!) I thought the hands down, best product of 2008 was the release of Brad P's 30/30 club.  Seriously, this course is one of the best, most intense training for in-field pickup that probably exists in the community.  And it just seems to be getting better month to month.  I can't help but wonder - how will Brad P top this in 2009?  How will ANYBODY top this in 2009?  I guess we shall see, buy avodart without prescription.

Best Community Drama: Stephane's Meltdown


2008 saw a number of amazing dramas unfold, but none better than the meltdown of Stephane and Ideagasms.  I don't think anything comes close to hearing about the relationship meltdown of the so-called "Spiritual Guy," him being revealed to be an abusive, drug addled fraud, his ex girlfriend running around causing him to post insanely psychotic jealous rants on his blog, and his lame attempts to justify his behavior.  Not since the Mine'99 Vs. The Return Of Bishop have I had as much fun watching someone self-destruct.  Let's just hope Stephane stays in Canada and can't get his hands on a gun anytime soon, buy avodart once daily.

Contest Winners


Craziest Drama Winner:  Paul


Paul had a great write-up about the RSD drama with Alexander and his infamous "Oy, Minger" video.  Congratulations, Paul, you win $100!  Email me for info on how to collect.
Paul wrote:
The biggest drama has happened when Alexander of RSD released his infamous demonstration of what the skillset of RSD instructors really look like.

Here is the video they have repeatedly tried to hide from the public:

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=3582779967328566084&ei=LZVjSciFBqXy2wK5mv3LAQ&q=alexander+rsd Buy avodart without prescription, This created so much drama in Papa’s head, that he actually contacted youtube to notify copyright infringement (which is stupid, but whatever). This actually caused Donovan from over at Seductionchronicles to lose his youtube account.:)

In case someone wants to review all the drama all that video created over at RSDNation, here you can read the closed thread where Alexander defends the video. Cheapest generic avodart, He is so full of shit, that even some of the RSD sheeps had to call him out,lol.

http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26581

Summary: Biggest drama of 2008 is the Alexander video, which finally proved the level of competence of all the RSD crew: ZERO.

Cheers,

Paul


Best New PUA Winner:  J


J made a fantastic case for Glen P. as the best new PUA of 2008.  Congratulations, J!  You win $100!  Email me for info on how to collect, buy avodart without prescription.
J wrote:
Glenn P is the best new PUA. I don’t think he’s new in terms of the community, pharmacy avodart, but for blowing up this year…it’s got to be him since Brad’s company just blew up too. He’s Brad P’s coach out here in NYC. He’s made a name for himself based on his reputation…he rarely post on the boards if ever…he’s been idle and only works with Brad’s 30/30 members now. Buy avodart without prescription, Each of his workshops sell out and his reviews are great. I’ve worked with him and he pretty much runs the workshop for 6-8 guys with assistant coaches helping along the way.

Why do I think he’s so good. Well his postings are all value add. He replied to people’s post. I’ve actually used his eye contact post http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html

Every guy that gets into the community is scared of the hottest girls - he has a post on that too, buy avodart without prescription. Avodart vendors, http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html

He has a bunch of podcast on ApproachAnxiety and audio field reports of him in action from opening, to flirting, to closing. I could put them here but you need to dig and look this guy up cause he’s the real deal.

His workshops consistently help guys get laid or push them far beyond their limits. He’s a very spiritual guy and has a successful career…he’s definitely doing this for the self-help aspect of it for the guys out there. Buy avodart without prescription, Glenn was once like us. But he’s worked hard and has even contributed to LoveSystems Routine’s Manual coming up with some new stuff.

Also, he does lair lectures, buying generic avodart. I hear lots of guys get something out of them. You can see his reviews: http://www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277&highlight=glennp

If he’s not the best new PUA, he’s definitely on his way to the rankings if he keeps his eyes on the prize…but I don’t think he really even cares…

So to summarize
Head coach for unknown company that just made it BIG
Sells out his workshops
Gets mad respect from the community
His post are value add. He doesn’t post to brag, buy avodart without prescription. Even his audio field reports give value…plus who else has posted audio field reports that are over 20 minutes long?.
Self help guru - cares about students success
Taught by one of the best PUAs out there right now, Brad P
Rates are reasonable given his reputation

If you don’t know who he is yet…you will in 2009.


Best Product Winner: Twice


Twice made a great case for a product which I too thought was the best of 2008 (excluding my own products, of course. Avodart overnight delivery, :-) which was Brad P's 30/30 club.  Congrats Twice!  You win $100!  Email me for details on how to collect.
Twice wrote:
I was an AFC, i’d been reading almost everything out there, i can say i was addicted
to any PUA product, Inner Game, Outer Game, Cold Approach, warm approach, club game, attraction, comfort, everything…results. Buy avodart without prescription, NONE

Then i “met” online a Guy, actually i’ve just found his site, and it was written that in one month it was going to begin a new program…i fill the form and…WOW it was just amazing!. i’m still doing it, but i’d benn with some number closes, one kiss and one fuck close in 4 months…now after 9 months i’ve had 2 new girls in 6 days, and so many are waiting for ;)

which product. Brad’s P. Club 30/30, it’s just open mind on everything, you take it, you’ll change your life. Every month you work on an aspect of your game, Identity, Fashion , Body language, voice tone, social freedon. one night stand, club game, one month one Big Goal!. with Brad, Glenn and the online coaches who helped you about everything.

The single ebook i consider the best one is with no doubt…”The adventures of Brad P.” the best lay report ever!.

Every info about it is on http://www.bradppresents.com/home.html and

cheers


Well, there you go, dear reader.  I hope you enjoyed this year's list!  Be sure to tune in again next year when I unveil the Top 10 of 2009.

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  1. HIche says:

    the séduction Community is in évolution

    And i like it

  2. gigi says:

    BradP well deserves the title.

  3. ThunderTick says:

    Wow, that was irrelevant, thank you.

    Maybe this was unique five years ago, but now every other site has their own Top 10 List.

    Since you have such a bad reputation as a scammy, derivative info-marketer, why should I put any stock in what you have to say, compared to someone else’s list?

    And those are all affiliate links after each name you mentioned, right?

  4. Paul says:

    I like the list, especially because my three favourite guys in the community (AFCAdam, Sinn and BradP) are in it.

    Props for BradP, I think he really deserved the #1

  5. gigi says:

    ThunderTick, these aren’t affiliate links, check your status bar ;)

    Although I also don’t agree with many names on this list (except BradP as #1, and Zan -> that should be ranked #2).

  6. Thunderdouche says:

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  7. Chance_pua says:

    AFC Adam is in my opinion the best the community has to offer, I’m a humble student and cant afford the services of most of the top puas out there luckily most of his stuff is free and adds so much value, its awesome he’s getting the recognition he deserves.

    Thanks Adam, Keep up the good work!

    Good call on the list this year Thundercat!

  8. feather says:

    You always rip on TD and Ross, saying they have ZERO skills, but a few years back they were both in your top ten puas in THE WORLD. Does this list really have any credibility? How many of these guys have you even seen pickup?

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  10. Fucker Max says:

    well done on losing the weight by the way! now keep it off…….

  11. T says:

    Thanks for taking the time to make this list.. Well appreciated regardless of your reputation. Had fun reading it..

  12. Hammer says:

    I like your choice of Brad P as number 1, but you’re out of your mind putting Mystery and Style on this list. Sinn should be number 1 or 2, and what are you doing leaving off Mehow? Mehow has had the biggest year of anyone by a long shot. You’re out of touch buddy.

  13. FairEnough says:

    LOVESYSTEMS IS OBVIOUSLY A SOURCE OF INCOME FOR THUNDERBLIZZOB.

    THAT IS ALL THIS LIST SAYS.

  14. Anonymous says:

    THUNDERBLOOOOB

  15. Johnny says:

    Nothing but a waste of time

    I challenge anyone on that list to an in-field challenge

  16. Gorgon says:

    Sinn and TSBMag both had more Love Systems guys on their list than Thundercat does. Love Systems seems to be the real deal, though I never would have believed it at first.

  17. cg says:

    Nice list, and makes lots of sense for someone out of the intructor’s world.
    Nice to see Savoy and David Wygant. Bad to not hear mentions to RSD team, like reading the Lord of the Rings and not hear mentions to Sam.
    I’m fan of retarded Cajun too =P.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Yes and sounds like a douche.

  19. Anonymous says:

    And miss Sin with one ‘n’ in the list.

  20. Dalvin says:

    Oy minga! Oy MIIINGA! Too bad you didnt include RSD up on there. With all the bashing inflicted on them throughout the years and as bad as you and everyone make them seem it seems that they are just getting stronger and stronger…I am sure that has to say alot about their content and what they teach…If it weren’t the case, I’m sure they wouldve been out of business as soon as “The GAME” came out…Much love to ALEX, TIM, JEFFY, TYLER and the REST of the RSD crew …and for one last time…OYYEEEE MINGGGAA!

  21. Thundercat says:

    Honestly, I’d love to include some RSD guys on the list. The only problem is, they keep their instructors so locked away and “programmed” that it’s hard to get a good, honest read on any of them. So until RSD stops acting like the third reich and starts letting people in for honest criticism and reviews, I can’t fairly put up one of their guys. The only thing we really get from RSD about their instructors is propaganda, and when real shit like the Oy Minger video comes out, they try and squash it immediately. *shrug*

    Don’t blame me for not including RSD instructors. Blame them for not giving me access to see them in action.

    Thundercat

  22. Irfaan says:

    Hey Thundercat,

    There were no honorable mention this time, Y?

    N hell Mehow deserves a spot here!

    Otherwise, as usual, Your TOP10 was a great read, with lots of info!

  23. Netherworld says:

    I know Swinggcat is your pal but it’s absurd to have him on the list because he’s a sham.I can see you still hold a grudge towards RSD, I don’t care what you think about their instructors cuz all I know is Tyler has done a lt for the community and he oughts to be on a list where even a sham like Swinggcat has gotten a spot.

    Oh Mystery is the guy who taught Style almost everything he knows now just because Style has released some new products and Mystery hasn’t doesn’t necessarily make Style a better PUA.

  24. Lucas says:

    Thank you.

  25. alex says:

    It’s a nice place to share my thoughts. I’m willing to stick around here and watch it grow. As i also want to learn how to grow mine.

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  26. Vincenzo says:

    What about Paul Janka, Lance Mason (for me, one of the best teacher) and Vin Dicarlo ?

    Style & Mystery have no place here for 2008, not because they’re not good, but because it’as an anual rank, and they did nothing this year…

    peace, it was fun to read

  27. Liquidfire- says:

    Thundercat

    First time I agree with you on RSD in that view.. I love their teachings, they help me tremendously but I do think they shoul not be so cult-like.

    Also, you do know Brad P is in a rockband… and therefor as massive social proof?
    I know some rockstars can’t get laid, but people should note that he has an advantage over others with that ability :)

    I also miss VinDiCarlo Julian Foxx And Sean M

  28. FairEnough says:

    No Gunwitch?

    Another sign that this list is “The Top 10 Thundercat asskissers”

    What a gruesome thought, if taken literally.

  29. Thundercat says:

    Vin DiCarlo, Julian Foxx, Sean Messenger, Lance Mason, Gambler, Mehow, and Gunwitch were all people whom I considered this year.

    They all have very good reasons to be on the list for 2008. However, there were reasons why they weren’t – most of it had to do with the fact that I did not get to meet them personally and hang out, and see their game, nor did I have people vouch for them, nor did I see a lot of innovation come from their camps. Does that mean it didn’t happen? No, it just means I wasn’t aware of it.

    As I said before, skill level is just part of what I use to rank people. There are a NUMBER of good PUAs out there who probably deserve to be on this list, and aren’t because I’m either not aware of them, or they aren’t contributing much to the scene. Hopefully in 2009, that will change.

    Everyone has a favorite PUA they like and learn from. There are people out there who feel Ross Jeffries deserves to be ranked in the Top 10! (If you can actually believe that). I had a list of probably 30 PUAs I was considering and doing research into for my rankings, and the Top 10 I selected are the ones who met all the criteria I laid out at the beginning of the post.

    In the past, I selected PUAs based on my personal experiences with them, and as a result there were a few who got ranked who didn’t deserve it. Not many, but it happened. Over time, I came up with other criteria for ranking, and that’s why I think my list this year is pretty spot-on. To be honest, I’d have loved to rank some other PUAs, like Hypnotica for instance, but he just got outpaced by the 10 I listed.

    So if you feel someone should have gotten ranked, but didn’t, that doesn’t mean they’re not good. It just means that for some reason, they didn’t fit my criteria this year to be ranked.

    Thundercat

  30. dango says:

    I completely agree with Glenn P. This guy doesn’t say 1 thing of bullshit. All his posts, podcasts, advice etc are 100% value and the guy seems cool too and not just one of those weird pua guys. Props

  31. DREBIN says:

    Seriously… These lists are so fucking stupid

  32. Josh says:

    I never likened Zan’s philosophy to “tough”.. reading Nietzsche and Aristotle is “tough”, the better fitting word is “practical”, much unlike the list above. Why act like yourself when you can peddle routine stacks and wear fluffy hats!

  33. Tony says:

    I can’t comment on the other guys, but Brad P in my opinion gets a well deserved first, I’ve purchased 3 or 4 of his books and they have always been top notch and packed full of info.

    Keep up the good work Brad!

    Tony

  34. Irfaan says:

    Yes but Thundercat, You could have mentioned those You seriously considered but who didnt make it to the Top10.

    Having said that, I hope to see some kind of “Seriously-Considereds” next year.

    Till then, All the best for this new year, for You and your blog!

  35. kkk says:

    You had a fight with Mehow, so he’s not on the list even though he innovated more than anyone else this year (2008 was HIS year) and his skill level and ability to teach are known by everyone. And he gives away a lot for free.

    He deserved a spot here.

    Guys who barely teach (Sinn, Mystery) shouldn’t even make the list.

    By the way, congrats for the weight loss. It’s not easy… keep going.

  36. kkk says:

    Tony > If you cannot comment on the other, you cannot say that brad P deserves to be first… :)

  37. Dr. Pepsi says:

    Barry Kirkey is KING of the loser PUA-wannabes. He bashes the marketing of other companies, yet fails to make any money himself.

  38. CaliPlaya says:

    I’ve seen two RSD guys and neither were anything worth noting, spending more time drinking and laughing than actually gaming. Brad P and Sinn are the real deal even though Sinn needs to stop with his manlove/hatefest of Matador. His game skills are high but maturity levels are low. Julian Foxx is good. Maybe a future top 10 guy. Gunwitch is okay if you like redneck chicks, and slutty Kid Rock video rejects. He pulls but just not my thing as far as his choices.
    Sean Messenger is bipolar. Mehow is good but he’s more into making money and the business aspect of the community rather than being a good solid teacher. One guy that should make the top 5 is Captain Jack!

  39. mal says:

    Thundercat I really like you doing this top10 rank, and I agree partially… but WHAT THE FUCK? Its clearly that you are influenced by your friends.

    How is that Style has better game that Mystery? (Mystery puas skills are feared by any guru, he can steal anyone chick)

    Whats about Lovedrop? (he wrote Revelations man!)

    How is that David Wygant and Zan is there and other legends not?

    Why Vin DiCarlo is not in the top10? The guy is the man! I didn’t hear anyone talking bad of his drillbootcamp, in fact, all of them are having amazing results! Threesomes, etc. He even is the father of natural game.

    My Top 10 Pick Up Artists of 2008:
    1) BradP
    2) AFC Adam Lyons
    3) Mystery (best game ever)
    4) Style
    5) Sinn
    6) Swinggcat
    7) Vin DiCarlo
    8) Lovedrop
    9) Cajun
    10) Mehow (infield insider best 2008 product for the community)

  40. Mr. Right says:

    Thundercat you must include for the 10, Barry Kirkey, Stefan from Rev31, me lol, Gun, hydro, levi, Dare, all of the Rev31 guys and our name from now on is The New Breed aka Rev31 Show regulars.

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  41. MagicSun says:

    The list looks fine to me. Interesting insight and to be honest – quite fair too. I especially liked the part about products and info on who’s doing what. Well done!

    In my humble opinion, those blokes belong on the list. There still might be others in the field, but here we either accept Thundercat’s subjectivity (that anyone else would have too) or make another list.
    I am pretty happy with this one :)

    However, I would have liked to see Lance Mason on there too.

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  43. Hunter says:

    WHAT THE FUCK

    NO GUNWITCH AGAIN

    FUCK YOU THUNDERCAT

  44. Mr. Right says:

    My English In my last post sucked lol.

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  45. Thunderblob says:

    Thunderblob, nice work putting all your affiliates on the list. Ranking “Style” number 3 says it all… shame on you, Blob.

  46. SmoothDoc says:

    Hi Thundercat,

    Nice work, but why don’t you put in some more “democratics” in this list? Is there a reason for it.

    You could even do two lists. One with voters, and one with your personal beliefs in it. Or do a like 50 %, 50 % score?

    It says something when somebody has a lot of people voting for him.

    At the Real Man Conference I had people voting for their favourite speaker, and so it was the opinion of the whole Rai Theatre, not the vote of 1 man.

    I like traditions. For me the community is now large enough now to get a good democratic vote.

    What’s your opinion on that?

    Cu,

    SmoothDoc

  47. Casper says:

    Mr.Right, didn’t include me!

  48. dangerous says:

    what about johnny soporno? next year have a top 100 theres enough gurus out there now for a top 1000 lol
    ps. rev31 rules

  49. Thundercat says:

    SmoothDoc – Having a popular vote on Top PUAs is very flawed, because most people can get taken in by a person’s charisma and hype. They can buy into a system that will actually not help them. (Hence the ongoing popularity of Tyler Durden and Ross Jeffries) Plus, you have people of varying levels of skill and experience deciding who is best – so an ignorance factor comes into play. (“Oh wow! That guy talked to a real live girl! He’s awesome!) There are just too many problems with ranking based on popularity. Someone voting for a guy because they saw him on a product or like his message board posts is not as accurate as someone who actually knows the teachings, observes the candidate, and does his research. I’m willing to bet last year there would have been a popular vote to rank Stephane as a Top PUA, and look how he turned out? But since I knew about Stephane and his insanity, I’d never include him in my list. This list might be my opinion, but I feel it’s a pretty darn GOOD opinion.

    Dangerous – Johnny Soporno was on my list of considerations this year, but I did not get to observe Johnny as much as I would have liked in 2008, and I had a few trusted sources tell me some things about him that did not bode well for his ranking this year, so I decided to leave him off until I could get a better read on him.

    Thundercat

  50. Thundercat says:

    Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention voter fraud. If there was a vote system, any cult like RSD could flood the voting with their members and skew the results.

    Thundercat

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