Ideagasms Melt-Down: Stephane’s Lies Revealed
So if you’re a follower of the blog, you’ll know that I’ve been critical of Stephane over at Ideagasms since, oh, it began. I’ve just had ay too many people I like and trust tell me about how the guy lied and screwed them over to actually believe Stephane is in this business to actually help other people as opposed to creating a cult for himself.
In one of my early podcasts, you can see where I expose most of his lies during an interview with Barry Kirkey. (Its not one of my better podcasts, but whatever. The point is to get the truth out there.)
Anyway, today I get an email from a reader named Lor who informs me of some major drama going on over at Ideagasms. It seems more and more of the cult has stopped drinking the kool-aid, and Stephane is banning them to keep them from speaking out against his teachings.
But these “Ex-IGs” aren’t staying quiet. In fact, they’ve created their own forum and Facebook Group to expose the truth about Stephane, and boy, is it not pretty!
Check out what David B., the creator of the Facebook Group, has to say about his experiences with Stephane…
David B. writes:
Ideagasms Exposed!
An Insider’s Story of the Journey Through Stephane LandThis is an honest account of my experience with the organization known as Ideagasms, and its leader, Stephane Hemon. This could be classified as an “expose” of sorts, since it contains a lot of information that’s less than flattering. However, my intention is not to harm or demean anyone, but simply to speak about something that needs to be spoken of. People have a right to be informed.
This post is also for Ideagasms members who have been wondering where the “ex-IG” forum is since they’ve heard rumors about it, but have been unable to find it because of Stephane’s prohibition of our links.
To the moderators here: I completely understand and respect the goals of this forum (success with women), as well as your right to moderate it how you wish in order to facilitate those goals. Please understand that part of success is about avoiding pitfalls, and I’m posting this to inform people about one of those. Please let this message stay up. By allowing it to reach people, you may be helping to steer them away from a very dark, lonely, and frustrating road.
Ok, so here’s my story.
When I first discovered Ideagasms, it was in its infancy. Steph was just an average dude with some modest insight into the pickup world, trying to make a living out of it. His ideas concerning spiritual topics and how they relate to pickup intrigued me, so I read all his newsletters, and signed up on his forum as soon as he started it. I soon became the most prolific poster, earning a wide degree of admiration from the other members through my lengthy and entertaining field reports. Within just a couple months, Steph made me the admin of the forum.
I felt that he was honest in the beginning, and genuinely trying to help people. He didn’t make himself out to be anything special, beyond a regular guy with some skills to teach. But as with so many things, what starts out as a good intention can quickly become obscured when power is involved.
After a few months, he started to change the structure of his posts and newsletters, taking out what genuine insight he had, and replacing it with boasts about his accomplishments. He started talking more and more about how good his game is, and started using labels such as “best PUA in the world” to describe himself. Perhaps it was due to our youthful naivete, or our eagerness to believe someone had finally found all the answers; but for whatever the reason, I and many others bought into it, and heaped praise on him. Thus began a cycle of him boasting outlandish (and as we would later find out, extremely exaggerated) claims about his skills, and forum members blindly worshipping him for it – a pattern that would only intensify as time went on.
At this time (around the beginning of 2006), he began to delve headfirst into some really freaky “New Age” stuff that would make even a messianic cult leader blush. Now I happen to enjoy a lot of new agey concepts, I’m no atheist – but he took it to such an extreme that I’m almost surprised to still be alive. He claimed he was going to achieve something called “Ascension” – a state in which a person evolves to the point that they have no more issues in life, no more karma, and their soul walks out of their body and gains the ability to manifest any physical object they desire (e.g. gold, food, women, a new body), fly to other galaxies and back, and live the rest of their life in a constant state of orgasm. He claimed he was going to do it by the end of 2008, and that if we followed him, we would be able to do so as well. Most of us would go in 2012, but a special few of his closest, most devoted students, might be able to make it by his side in 2008. To grant credibility to these claims, he cited the guidance of a reclusive, enigmatic “aunt”, who was supposedly one of the top 10 or 20 spiritual people in the whole world. She never communicated to anyone except through him, yet that didn’t stop her from giving us remote “past life readings” for $30 a pop – readings which were rife with duplications, historical inaccuracies, and contradictions. In the spring of that year, he stopped talking about her, and largely quieted down on the Ascension talk too- and it wasn’t until I asked him on the phone, “whatever happened to that aunt of yours?”, that he brushed it off by saying she went insane and disappeared. And that was the end of that.
Before I go on, I want to explain one of Stephane’s core psychological tactics that he uses for making people follow him. It’s called “cognitive dissonance.”. Basically, how it works, is he will come out with a new concept – something ridiculous, like tricking a guy into swallowing your cum is a compassionate thing to do (see his “Dragonbutter” story) – and he’ll suffix it with a seemingly innocuous, yet very potent sentence right afterwards:
“Many people won’t be ready to handle this truth.”
“You will only agree with this if your heart is open.”
“Only those with high self-esteem will understand what I mean.”This flies right under the radar, and gets you to think of yourself as “un-evolved” (read: “not as cool”) compared to your peers, who all supposedly have high enough vibrations to agree with him – unless you can manage to somehow buy into his story as well. So with the self-image under threat, the mind will do whatever it needs to in order to protect itself, including altering its belief systems (i.e. Dragonbutter is not cruel, it’s lovely!) to conform with the group, and earn the label “open-hearted” or whatever other label is in question. In this fashion, entire belief systems can be surreptitiously torn down, piece by piece, and replaced with new belief systems, without the believer even realizing what’s happened. If you’re not aware of how this works, it’s only a matter of time before you become ensnared in it – and once in it, it just keeps gathering momentum, because more and more of your self-image is staked on your position in the group. I fell for this big time.
Anyway, back to the story. In June 2006, I visited Montreal, in order to meet the man himself. I ended up staying there the whole summer, in order to learn from him (and besides, Montreal is an awesome city), and it was during this time that I first started to notice that not all was well in Steph-land.
I went out with him 3 or 4 times a week, and began to notice some “inconsistencies” in his claims, to put it mildly. We would be out at a bar, and Ghita would befriend a couple of girls and bring them to our table, introducing them to Steph. Then they would continue to talk to Ghita, while Steph sipped his beer and chatted with the guys. They might have given him an occasional sidelong glance or nod of acknowledgment, but overall they paid little attention to him, or any of us. But then in the field report the next day, it would be quite different, with Steph claiming “all 4 girls were hardcore into me, shaking and quivering from my presence, dripping wet from the sound of my voice, my game is #1 in the world, im the best PUA in the world, no one else has my skills, no one can do what I do, I’m the best, I’m the greatest, blah blah blah.”
There were times when he’d play pool at the bar. Occasionally he’d make a difficult shot, and a few people standing nearby would clap. But in the field report, it became something like “half the BAR was cheering me on.” These types of exaggerations were not isolated instances – they were patterns, and they still are, as he continues them to this day.
And the most telling evidence of all, is the fact that I’ve never seen him approach a girl – ever. I asked him so many times to demonstrate his skills, just once, and he outright refused, claiming that he “paid his dues” by training Ghita to pick up for him, and therefore doesn’t have to do it himself anymore. I have never seen him interact with a girl for more than 30 seconds, other than Ghita, despite hanging out with him for hundreds of hours in a city filled to the brim with beautiful women.
Here’s a funny story. After a while, my requests must have gotten annoying to him, so he grudgingly agreed to demonstrate an approach. So he bade me to follow him through the bar until he found a chick to talk to. I stuck by him for about 20 minutes, until finally the normal course of events got us seperated. Then about a half an hour later, I heard a voice behind me – it was Steph. “Did you see? Did you see???? Whaaat? You weren’t looking??? I did an approach!! Fuck, you didn’t see?”
This happened more than once. Eventually I gave in to the reality that I would never see Stephane Hemon talk to a girl. Only a few people I know of have seen him interact with girls at all, (nevermind approach, just interact), and not surprisingly, they report that he comes off creepy – alienating them within minutes, if not seconds. He himself admits this to a degree, rationalizing it as the fault of the girls, saying they just couldn’t handle his high amount of “Light.”
At the same time, in my own life, his methods were causing my already shaky success with women to plummet into depths I never imagined possible. I don’t want to go into just how bad it was, but it was somewhere around “absolute zero”. And Steph helped me rationalize it by saying things like “don’t worry man, these girls are just afraid of your Light. They can’t handle you, and that’s why they’re running away – they’re afraid. Just keep doing what you’re doing, and eventually you’ll find a girl whose heart is open enough to appreciate you.” So I kept going.
I wrote numerous field reports detailing my adventures in Montreal, praising Steph’s methods. From my reports, it would have seemed that I was doing really well, and success was juuuuuuuust around the corner. But inside, my doubts were growing. I didn’t want to keep doing stuff that wasn’t working, but at the same time I didn’t want to risk rejection from the group if I challenged the leader or his doctrines. Ideagasms had become cultified, with some people getting banned for being overly vocal in their disagreements, or having too much praise for a rival teacher or method. As the admin of the forum, it was too much to risk, especially since I was the one doing the bannings.
So that fall I went back to college for my last semester. During this time, I stopped praising Steph and started posting about my own theories and discoveries. I also started dropping hints about my dissatisfaction with the leader and his teachings, saying as much as I could without directly challenging him. Steph grew more distant, and more reluctant to talk to me. In December I went right back up to Montreal, planning to live there permanently due to the merits of the city itself, more so than it’s status as the capital of Ideagasms. I had pretty much dropped out of the cult in all but name, and the desire began growing to speak out openly.
After a few nights out with the “gang” (Steph and his band of male groupies who follow him around, supplicating to him and giving him rockstar social proof that he uses to gain what little attention he can from girls), and seeing him do some really nasty things (such as sticking around a group of hapless Christian girls from Alabama for a whole night, ostracizing them for their beliefs and encouraging me and the gang to join him when they wanted nothing to do with any of us, as well as him laughing at homeless people, throwing a beer bottle down to try to shatter it on the bar floor, getting his Ascension-bound spiritual ass shitfaced six nights in a row, and other stuff I won’t get into), I had had enough.
Finally, I publicly questioned him on his forum. I asked him how he can keep telling me to use the same methods, if they obviously aren’t working. And he banned me just for that.
I didn’t know what to do, so I apologized, and he let me back on the forum. My drive towards honesty once again getting the better of me, I then wrote a post about how people are hero-worshipping him, and urging them to stop doing it. I was banned again, and he pretty much hasn’t talked to me since.
After that happened, a friend let me read the forum through his account, and I watched it degenerate further and further. He began cracking down more than ever on dissenters and those who started waking up. Whenever someone would poke their head above the clouds and ask him a serious question, or point out flaws in his doctrine in any way, he banned them immediately. Dozens of people were banned in a period of just a few months. Then came one night, which we’re calling “the midnight massacre”, where he banned 12 people all at once, under the pretense of “raising the energy vibration of the forum.” So that’s when we decided that this guy has to be exposed. And we started our own forum.
Sadly, most of the people there are not going anywhere, and there is no way for them to realize it because the chorus of conformity is so loud and so insulated that there’s no way for any contrary idea to come in and interrupt it. As soon as someone realizes his methods don’t work, he bans them before they get a chance to tell others their thoughts. He has a team of 5 or 6 followers who scan the forum all day long, deleting and banning anything that resembles criticism in the slightest degree. People believe his claims of superpowers and of being “the most successful human being on the planet” (real quote), not because he’s particularly persuasive about it, but rather because he censors any voice that doesn’t agree with it.
In the last six months, he has been delving into the writings of an obscure, kooky “scientist” named David Hawkins, whose primary claim to fame is that he has discovered a bullet-proof system for determining “absolute truth”, which basically involves assigning a number (1 to 1000) to a particular person, thought, or idea, with 1 being the darkest, most untrue, and 1000 being absolute light and truth. It’s no surprise that he calibrates himself and Ghita in the 600’s and 700’s, his followers mostly in the 400’s and 500’s, non-followers in the 200’s and 300’s, and critics (such as us) in the 100’s. With this system, he categorically justifies anything he wants to.
Most of his posts now are simply about “reaching a higher numerical level”, and his forum has turned into a spiritual penis-size contest of aspiring calibraters, trying to claim the highest numerical value for themselves that they can get away with and have others believe. To call it a keyboard jockey’s paradise would be an understatement. Relationships and sexuality are rarely discussed anymore, except for the purpose of justifying a higher calibration. Most field reports read like missionary diaries, detailing how the gospel was brought to the heathens. One structure that seems to be quite popular, is as follows (paraphrasing, of course):
“Hey guys! I went out in a state of 500, pitied all the low-vibing girls who were stuck in the 300’s, tried to help them ‘raise up their level’ but my help was denied, and so, despite having a girl who was ‘totally into me’, I had to do the ‘integrous’ thing, and ‘disqualify’ her.”
Needless to say, it doesn’t work in actually improving their ability to relate to people, or women. On the contrary, they’re being taught to back themselves into corners, to burn bridges, and to reject more and more of the world, under the pretense that it’s all beneath them. It’s really just a defense mechanism to justify loneliness, to make it seem noble and desirable since they’re at a loss to overcome it – but no one is allowed to suggest this. In fact, one of Steph’s closest confidantes, his chief “Calibrater”, got banned just a few days ago for making this very observation.
I don’t doubt that most of them are very frustrated on the inside. I know what it’s like to be in pain, while wearing a mask on the outside that says things are wonderful and Ascension is right around the corner. But he keeps on dangling the carrot for them, and they remain distracted.
“Hey, who cares, sex isn’t that good for you anyway, it’ll detract from your spiritual ascension process. Would you rather bounce up and down on a bed and trade body juices, or raise your consciousness to *700* and beyond? I just checked my calibration of you, and you made a big jump recently. Only a few more weeks and you should be at 650! 700 isn’t far away!”
I wonder how long it can continue? I suppose each person has a limit to how much they can take, and once they pass it, they leave. But there are always more people waiting in the wings, and the cycle continues, just with new faces. We, his ex-students, want to put a stop to the cycle, but unfortunately there’s no way to reach through his tough curtain of censorship. That’s why we’re posting here – to maybe reach a few people.
The censorship itself is complete. He outright condemns the idea of free speech – openly. He says freedom of speech is just an excuse for people to say negative things and lower the vibration of the group. “Doubt”, he says, is a dark energy that reeks of ego. “Opinions” are worthless ego-creations, designed to plant “untruths” in people’s minds. When he bans people, he often reminds them that skepticism calibrates below 200, and the forum calibrates above 600, and the discrepancy means that they’re “sabotaging his mission.”
Fuckin crazy, if you ask me.
As for our forum, he bans anyone who even speaks about it. All you have to do is ask, “hey, I heard there’s an Ex-IG forum out there somewhere, does anyone have the link?”, and you’re kicked out. He even has moles on our forum, trying to discover which of the people there still have accounts on his forum, so he can ban them.
Not long after we started it, it began to gain momentum as more and more disallusioned Ideagasms members joined up, eager for a chance to discuss Stephane’s ideas without fear of censorship. Steph made a shoddy attempt to assuage his followers’ growing sense of doubt by debunking our “grievances”, skipping over most of the important ones and using red herrings and straw-man arguments to make us look bad – not to mention falling back on his “calibration system” as a last resort to prove that we were wrong and he was right. He also made up lies about me and the other founders, which we have no way of responding to on his forum.
Recently he discovered a new tactic that’s quite sneaky: banning people without actually deleting their account. Now if you cross him, he will just change your password so you can’t log in – and to other members, it will appear as if all is peachy and no one’s been kicked out. Brilliant move, if I may say so myself.
Oh, and then there are the pills.
Stephane is claiming that he has a secret batch of pills – yes, pills – sitting in his cupboard, which can cure any disease (HIV, cancer, diabetes, kidney stuff, everything), sculpt any body without effort, and yes, even enlarge your penis (you saw that coming, didn’t you?), which were provided to him secretly by an anonymous, renegade “nano-scientist.” He claims he is one of the very few people on earth with the priviledge of having access to these revolutionary new pills, and for $1,000 a month, he can hook you up with a regimen. As we speak, he is supposedly taking these pills, turning his flabby body into Arnold Schwarzenegger’s. However, there’s just one caveat – the pills won’t work if you “don’t believe in them.” If you take them with “skepticism”, don’t be surprised if they fail to transform you. His actual post can be read on the Ex-IG forum.
Only one person in the whole group had the courage to kindly request that Steph provide evidence of his claims. Steph responded by accusing him of “trying to drag everyone down”, and of spreading the dreaded vibration of “doubt”, which as we know, calibrates below 200, and he banned the guy.
Here’s an assortment of nice little quotations from Stephane:
-“Freedom of speech is of no value. If I were to allow people to post anything they wanted, this forum would turn into the next mASF with people posting darkness, misogyny, arrogant positionalities, ego ego ego.” (Feb 23, 2008)
-“Then you have the greeks and italians. I group them into one pile of euro-trash.” (Feb 24, 2008).
-“Latino chicks, from brazil, panama, whatever. Macho, annoying, stupid, shallow, tough bitches who fly off the handle and have emotional outbursts for no apparent reason.”
-“Then there’s the jews, who secretly think they are special. Yes I’m generalizing, and no I’m not anti-semitic. But the Jews are the biggest poor me victims to ever live on earth, as far as i can tell.”
-“Yes, a lot of people would like “free spech” so they could come on here and post a bunch of fear-based crap and lower the vibe of IG forums.”
-“Gay pride is nothing but arrogance, and so most of them just wind up getting AIDS.”
-“About the chakras, I know what I know… So, you not seeing the value is obviously pure ego pride, which is an energy not welcome on this forum.”
-“Just know that I’m a lot quicker than you are, and my wisdom exceeds yours significantly. At the end of our debate, I’ll need you to say, “Thanks Stephane, for helping to raise my consciousness” – AND, you’ll also have to buy the GTP.”
-“The real answer is they have student/teacher syndrome, in which jealousy and pride prevent them from doing anything other than pathetic little attempts to prove to themselves that they are more evolved than I am. It’s fallacious.”
“The more enlightened i become, the greater your chances of getting there too, just by
virtue of being in a room with me. I know the way out of hell.”-“It’s up to you to choose to be humble about it and view me as your Teacher, with a capitol “T”. I have earned that level of respect and that title.”
-“I recently made the jump to 602, which is the first stages of true Enlightenment. I am completely un-identified from my mind and body, and could literally choose to walk out of this body and leave for good. I have no more human karma, as i have mastered the linear world of form.”
“My advice to you: SHUT THE FUCK UP.” (April 5, 2008).
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So there you have it. That’s my story, and that’s what’s going on behind the doors of the world’s most highly evolved teacher of relationships and spirituality. You can do what you want with this information. If you still want to investigate him, (perhaps you have an overpowering sense of curiosity), go ahead, but be very careful – he is a master NLP user, extremely effective at reframing, rationalizing, and subtle manipulation. If you’re not cautious, you could be helped to several platefuls of mental programming you never signed up for.
He makes liberal use of terms like “love”, “light” and so forth, which might impress a newcomer, but just remember that words are not the same as actions. Some people can preach love and compassion all day long, while in practice suppressing that very thing.
If you’re concerned that Steph may be the only person in the world teaching a blend of pickup and spirituality, rest assured that he’s not. There are many other people on a similar path, and many of the “community” teachers are starting to incorporate more and more of it into their ideas. And ultimately, spirituality is inside you – not outside. It doesn’t come from a guru.
For more information and to discuss this topic, you can visit the Ex-Ideagasmers forum (and this isn’t an advertisement for any products, cause we’re not selling anything). Thanks for reading… and may whatever path you take lead you home.
In addition to all this, it would seem Stephane has also lost his biggest form of social proof – Ghita – very recently. it would appear that poor girl finally smartened up and dumped his sorry ass.
Check out the email correspondence between David G. and Ghita to confirm the fallout…
Discussion between David G and Ghita:
E-mail sent on august 22nd:
“Hey Ghita, I heard the great news I imagine your having a lot of mixed emotions right now and I guess thats a natural process. Stephane was a nightmare trip that took us along for the ride, we were both YOUNG, NAIVE and UNAWARE. He was older then us and he used our good hearts against us, I cant imagine what you’ve been through up to this point. Just let me know if you want me near and ill be there stay strong Angel and dont be afraid you’ve just entered into your brighter days.
David”
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From Ghita Jones (Facebook) August 25 at 7:39pm:
“David,
Stephane and I are no longer together, he did hijack my facebook and my e-mails, I just now got my facebook back, as of 3 min ago.
I read your other e-mails and I don’t know what to tell you, how about..you’re right. About everything.
I’m with my mom and my brother and my cat. A lot of shit went down.
Hope you’re doing alright David.
Sincerely,
Ghita”
So it’s pretty much official – Stephane is a psycho. Stay away, and buyer beware.
Good post. Reminds me of RSD and how they also censor their forum under the guise of creating a ‘positive, productive atmosphere’
Overall though Matt, you’re still a scummy, info marketer opportunist who takes more value from people than he gives back. I wish someone would start a better gossip site that keeps all the useful info and contains none of the useless cash-grab products.
Actually it would be better than this site because I would take everyone to task, instead of the three people you hate, while you wear the kid gloves around your affiliates / business partners.
RSD also has this attitude of, “If you don’t like our ideas you just don’t ‘get’ them.”
What a freakshow!
Wow, if these claims are even remotely true, then this guy is a complete nut job. I must say, I’ve always gotten a creepy vibe from him ever since I first heard of him and IG.
Also, the URL for the EX-ideagasmer forum is:
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers
I am also an ex-member of ideaGasms… I was on iG since I was 16, got 2 products for free from him. But only when AJ, the circle girl, got kicked out that I got VERY suspicious, and holy shit… I was following a madman, here’s AJ’s story:
I have been processing what happened between Brandon and I, and then Stephane, Ghita, and I for some time now. I have been out of touch with almost everyone for like 9 months now .
I still have a lot of residual pain that I’m not even really quite sure how to work through. But I think telling you guys all this stuff is going to help me. Ghita is also going to come stay with me mid-October for a few weeks where “verbal diarheaa” (as Ghita called it on the phone ) will ensue. And maybe some .
I think it’ll just all spurt out in posts. When I think of something that happened and want to share, good and bad.
This was what I came on here to point out….
Amicably, Ghita left Stephane. I really like how Stephane has reframed it as him letting go of sympathy issues and staying non-attached . I don’t want to speak too much for Ghita until/unless she gives me permission.
I flat out LEFT Stephane. And here is the story:
For a few weeks Stephane had been trying to convince himself that he was attracted to me. I don’t know if he ever actually was. The only time I remember him telling me I was beautiful was when we were all high on cocaine and I was naked (and I do look better naked then clothed ).
On this particular night, a group of people were over. We got ahold of weed, shrooms, and coke. Ghita, Sie, myself (and whoever else I can’t remember) took some shrooms, a little bit, and Stephane bought coke for himself and himself only. Stephane would justify his drug use with being enlightened, saying that because he was of higher consciousness, the drugs would not drag him down.
He took me into the back pulled down his pants and forced my mouth on his cock, even though I told him I didn’t want to. I was pretty unattracted to him at this point (and had already attempted to leave twice but was manipulated by being made to feel like I was weak for leaving and ended up staying). He told me that I actually was attractive because I was like an immature novice and he could teach me how to have sex and all that bullshit.
Let me preface this by saying this was the instant in which it clicked, there were SOOO many reasons why I left.
It was then, when I was akwardly and uncomfortable barely sucking his cock…. like it was in my mouth and I wasn’t even sucking it…. it was just in there…. it just clicked, you know? I’m not someone that you “settle” for. I know that I have so much to offer…. I knew then that this was not the lifestyle for me. Perhaps circles were cool, but not Stephane.
High on mushrooms, I pretended to be asleep while I devised a plan of escape. Finally, when he was taking a bath, I made a list of all essentials, grabbed my passport and some money from underneath the pool table, packed it all in a suitcase, and went back to “sleep”. Finally when he fell asleep at around noon, I left leaving a note, “I went out for coffee, be back soon.” I sent him and Ghita an e-mail later saying basically that I needed to be free, and that perhaps circles were right, but that I wasn’t interested in being in a circle with him and Ghita.
I had never felt so fucking free in my entire life. After Brandon and then Stephane, I was finally by myself, thinking my own thoughts, being my own person.
I left with a back pack’s worth of stuff, some money, and I did not know anyone in Montreal except the girl I originally picked up, Sam, who later became my best friend. I did not contact her for a week though….. I met people, made ends meet, found shelter in the snow…. it was an adventure of a lifetime. I stayed for 5 months, meeting people, connecting, experiencing things as my own person…
Point is….. I’m not quite sure what he told the forum about how it went down, but I know that he framed it as he “let me go” and someone said something about him saying I’m sexually repressed or whatever . Isn’t that weird that he can’t be honest about Ghita and I leaving him? Does he feel devalidated? Does he think his followers are going to judge him or possibly question why we would leave such an “enlightened” man….
Oh that’s right! It must be because he is too light for us.
Dear Stephane:
If you are lurking or if you have minions lurking and spamming Jason and I…. this is for you:
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?view…a9f5aec3ab801fa
Thank you so much for allowing me to be in your circle so Ghita could teach me how to suck cock so well. Hundreds of thousands of people thank you actually every time they jerk off to me . Sexually repressed my ass .
And to all of you, a little gift from me to you, enjoy .
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers/index.php?showtopic=206
LOL
he’s also banning everyone who hasn’t bought all 5 of his products !!!!
http://www.ideagasms.net/ig-forum-noahs-ark/
Has no one in Montreal kicked this guy’s ass profuesly in front of his Moonies?
lol..smb forget to take his pills.
rsd forum close to this freak.
Stephane sucks…but the chakras rock!
I heard charisma arts, juggler, forum also censors, no one complains about them though.
i can confirm all this is true.
I was on the forum back in 2005 when this began. after about 6 months i realised this is all fucking bullshit. stephanes “teachings” were nonsense and i felt sorry for the others on the forum who were going nowhere fast… because of stephane hermon.
thanks to david deangelo for putting out the stephane interview and getting me into it! NOT
there are remarkable similarities between IG and RSD… = CULT
Whew… sounds like the powerful combination of “loss aversion” and “commitment and consistency”…
There’s a great book out called “Sway” that talks about this in more detail. Fascinating stuff.
All I can say is that Stephane is a TOTAL hypocrite who does not practice what he preaches. AT ALL. I find David B’s post spot on.
Another guru revealed to be a sociopath
saw him on the cliff list convention dvds..looks like a cross between white trash and a beatnick…
Jesus Christ, Stephane is insane!
Now he’s taking down the forum.
“This experience has shown me that running a forum was, in itself, a sympathy issue. At first I thought, “Clean out the old accounts” but then I realized – just let go of the forum completely, the time has come.
Thanks for “the mirror” everyone, the forum is now going to be taken down forever. I just posted about this on my blog.
(There were a couple donations, to help me keep this forum alive so you could still come here and learn from me. Thanks for those, looks like I owe you a phone consult instead of a forum account, in this case. just let me know and we’ll schedule it in.)
Man, what an intresting month it’s been. First ghita, now this. blink wink.gif
Whew, the body needs some rest.
It’s been a great four years everyone, thanks for everything. So now I know why I chose my current forum avatar biggrin
Much love,
Stephane”
I was a member of IG for awhile and even met Steph personally. He was cool in real life and it was fun, he was crazy and in a cool way….. but I’d say once this whole David Hawkins shit, the value “calibration” stuff came on, IG took a huge turn for the worse.
For example, as the blogger said “You 200 point calibration is too low for my 600 forums”
Anyway, when I started studying true NLP, I noticed lots of Steph’s spiritual stuff had a lot of NLP tricks in it. He has something called a 5 Step Compassion formula (called 5DC I think) and its basically about reframing a situation into multiple ways, resolving each reframe, and coming to grips with the situation.
Another thing is his “Moving Beyond Approach Anxiety” program is also an NLP technique where you take negative feelings in your body, apply a color to it, imagine moving it out of your body, and rationalize it. So, its not a new, spiritual concept (unless you “frame” it that way
)
Anyway, ironically after I pointed that out, Steph ended our affiliate relationship and soon after banned my ass.
Anyway, I think his basic GTP product is awesome, but STAY away from IG now. Its really sad, I think if Steph could have just focused on Relationships alone (not approaching or “enlightenment”) but just relationship management, he would have a much more positive impact on people.
With that said, Stephane has a philosophy of “No to Sympathy” but honestly, its started to feel like “Yes to Sociopath.” He wrote a thread about how he doesn’t feel the need to look Waiters and Taxi-Cab drivers in the eye, or be courteous, because they are probably “energy vampires” anyway. Now, I read that and I couldn’t believe Steph is basically teaching his 1000 students to be pricks. On top of that, his students were writing threads trying to justify to themselves Steph’s assertion.
Anyway, although GTP is a good product, close your ears to his cluty-spiritual stuff. Stick to the solid advice. Then, if you need actual relationship advice, I would ask someone like Alex from http://www.innergamereframe.com (that isn’t a plug, Alex is an Ex-IG student who had some solid advice. So if you like GTP but have further questions, go for Alex.)
Steph if you are reading this, I hope you know I am speaking my truth now. Hopefully you’ll wake up to the fact you are leading students on a dark road of vague spirituality, almost like the Middle-Ages shit. Stick to being a relationship teacher and keep your religious views to yourself.
Late
-BigSend
http://bigsendworld.com
Probably Stephane was run out of money… He uses fear of loss in order to force people to buy something. Imho, true selfless teaching and commerce are incompatible.
Now he plans to fly to London, and asks people to donate some cash in order to meet him – what a moron!
Also the whole Circle idea seems very weak now. His relationships with girls are not long term and stable. And never trust him when he speaks about unconditional love or compassion – he requires it from others but not from himself…
The dude can’t run out of the money just like that… according to his sales stats (and don’t ask how I know or have access to this information, as I will not share that since he could probably pull the plug on the source if he reads this), he’s made about $600,000 since he started selling his products back in 2005 or so. And to this day, he gets 10-12 new sales of his programs EVERY DAY – having $400-500 per day income, I don’t see that as running out of money. Running insane, maybe…
Show this page to an SHB and this is what she’ll read:
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH $600,000 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
10-22 new people a day is possible, but usually requires aggressive marketing. The thing is, the gurus have money and status that doesn’t transfer to their students, and who do you think the hot women are going to want? The leader with the money, or the follower who gave it to him for a clue? The community ITSELF is the problem.
I see people today talking about HB7, and even “HB6″ because they had to lower the bar to make results seem achievable. An AFC can get an “HB6″ for god’s sake. What are people spending all this money on? Even the top fora have maybe 10,000+ readers, mostly pirates and freeloaders, so who is spending all this money? 600k at 50 a pop is 12,000 customers, or more than almost the entire active community population. Is there some gold rush since VH-1 that has changed the marketing?
The workshop guys have the edge because they only need a few hundred customers a year to get rich. Their advice is targeted to these “whales” while they teach shit gamie to the masses, which doesn’t work now, if it ever did, and which has the whales still needing the premium stuff.
The AMOGing reeks of insecurity. “Gurus” who are in the prime of their lives think they have “game” when it’s just looks, age, and money working in their favor. Men who get laid other ways — the AFC who gets 300 lays from an SHB in a two-year LTR, or the rich old guy who buys the one who flaked on you — are discounted as if the sex they get is phony. We advise men to do a dozen things, when all the target has to do is SHOW up, and call that alpha? Come on.
Do you really think your “brothers” you never met are here to help you steal their women? They’re here to get STATUS AND MONEY, and will trade any supposed “insider” knowledge to get it. What they are saying is that status and money are what gets the hot women. If their tricks were so good, they wouldn’t part with them at any price.
This is quite ridiculous…
sad what some guys are doing just to get sales
Tyler,
http://www.confidencedynamics.com
THUNDERCAT IS ALSO A LIAR!
Check this out killerinfluence.com This is a website for covert hypnosis where you can download a fake “secretly” taped phone call between Thundercat and David X (NOT the pua David X). Thundercat goes by the name “Matt” and “Matthew”. Matthews is his last name not his first.
The phone call starts when Thundercat calls David and is depressed because he didn’t sell ANY of his information products that day. David explains to him the basics of psychology and hypnosis for a while. Then later, Thundercat goes on to ask David if he can use covert hypnosis to pick up a woman at a bar. David then goes on to say that the reason he learned hypnosis was to pick up chicks. But he thinks that a certain hypnotic seduction guru has creepy tonality. Thundercat pretends not to know who he is referring to by not saying anything about him (David should read his blog)
Here is where the bullshit marketing goes into hyper drive, David studies martial arts and he says he met a guy named Pete that made him stop dead in his tracks by just pointing to his feet and other stuff like this. And then he started to learn how to do these secret covert techniques from Pete. But Pete learned these techniques from a Asian grandmaster that had his own cult and once word got out that Pete divulged his secrets he had him killed or brainwashed him into committing suicide. David said he has taught these techniques to a 9 year old. He asks Thundercat not to tell anyone about him revealing this because he implies something bad will happen to him.
In his defense, Thundercat asked good questions and really didn’t seem interested in covert hypnosis, it was probably a favor. I just wonder why he is promoting this douchebag’s shitty marketing ploy instead of exposing it like Stephan.
This reminds me ore and more of political campaigns where the candidtes say and do things which the media says won’t work, yet which the election results say DO work.
Those of us who comment, or produce product, look at the conduct as transparent, but like those ads you see running forever, despite wondering who isbuying, obviously someone IS buying, which means that the mainstream masses who search for advice, and even the lurkers who just watch the flame wars, behave much less intelligently than we’ d like to give them credit for.
The hot women we all claim to want likely see this and also see the gurus as leaders, with wealth, i.e., what they want, and the students as absolute losers, by virtue of nothing omre than the fact that they are students.
Thundy is a fucking hypocrite and liar. For months I’ve been telling you guys he is one of my affiliates, selling my stuff, all the while he claims he has NO connection to me.
I’ve got a screen capture program that I intend to use to expose fatso.
Watch for it tomorrow.
RJ
ross do an interview on barrys show it would be great.
this place is going to die a death now that barrys forum is up and running…
peace and piece
Mr. C…why would I lend an idiot like that the credibility and fame of my name and trademark?
RJ
Here’s screencapture proof that Thundercat is a lying hypocrite and is, in fact, my affiliate.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgTbskJG5g
Make the video full screen to clearly read the details.
Proof positive he’s a lying scumbag. Let’s see how long before he deletes my post. SPREAD It AROUND!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgTbskJG5g
resize to full screen to see details better
It’s not his fault, he just likes money alot more than he likes pussy…or he would have learned how to get laid instead of spending all his time learning how to water down and paraphrase other people’s methods to scam money with.
Your $451 dollars bought him a whole day’s worth of cheeseburgers!
The EX-ideagasmers forum:
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers
ha just watched the video. thanks for that ross.
i was wondering if the post you made before was really you. so good to hear it confirmed by the youtube vid.
i like the note to him where you call him fat boy… how the hell does one siustain that level of obesity?
as for the interview, well thats obviously your call if you don t think you ll benefit.
i still think you d do a good interview though. i mean come on you did one for those pick up podcast guys…
but if nothing else it would really fucking piss thundercat off!
Come hear the truth on the Ex-Ideagasmers Forum
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers
Hello, my name is Stephane Hemon. I am the coolest person on the planet, seriously. My ability to shamelessly brag and self-aggrandize all day long is a sign of my super high self-esteem. My crowning achievement in life is a prank I played on some random dude at a bar, where I stuffed my girlfriend’s mouth with semen and tricked him into kissing her. If you think this is funny, congratulations! You officially have an open heart! If you don’t think it’s funny, that’s ok too – I totally respect your right to be an ignorant, uptight, unevolved, low vibing square. Oh by the way, be your own guru.
Follow those who seek the truth, and run from those who claim to have found it. Unless of course, it’s Me. Did you know that I’ve solved ALL relationship issues and taken care of every single problem in life, completely balanced all my chakras, and don’t even have any more karma? Yea, it’s pretty sweet. But be your own guru.
Always filter everything I say through your own heart, and don’t always accept all of it as truth automatically. I might be wrong sometimes. If I am wrong, don’t worry – once you evolve a little more and gain a little more self-esteem, you’ll see that I’m right.
Hm, my latest newsletter is very controversial… I wonder if people will agree with it, or whether they will be too ignorant to understand it? Oh well, if they don’t like it, I’ll just kick them off the forum! I’m so smart.
Let’s talk about compassion now. I have lots and lots and lots of it, can’t you tell? I always make sure to insult anyone who isn’t on my level, ban anyone from the forum who openly disagrees with me, tease homeless people, mess up guys in the middle of a pickup and walk away with the girl just to prove how awesome I am (I especially love doing this to black guys for some reason!), BUT – since I’m doing all of it from a place of non-judgment, it’s all good. I may think you’re a low-vibing retard, but I still love you. Just like Jesus, except I’m even better.
While we’re on the subject of compassion and love, did you know that all women are dishonest cheating whores? Did you know that they are all complete retards with nothing interesting to say or anything valuable or unique to offer (except their vaginas), and cannot be trusted to make even the simplest decisions or carry out the most basic tasks because they’re so stupid and retarded? This is definitely true, and I’m definitely not creating this reality for myself by only hanging out at bars and clubs, and only dating flitty 18 year old clubber chicks who I drag home drunk in the middle of the night… no way. I’m sure this behavior is generalizable to all types of women.
I used to be friends with Tyler D. from RealSocialDynamics, but I ended my friendship with him because he has some really negative beliefs about women. He doesn’t love them like I do.
Anyways, allow me to introduce my girlfriend, Ghita. I trained her myself! See the light in her eyes? That’s because I used behavioristic reward-and-punishment conditioning to mold her into the perfect woman. Among other things, I trained her to not give away her power, to anyone, ever. That’s why I always make sure to cut her off mid-sentence, talk over her, and ignore her whenever she tries to say something. It’s also why whenever she questions or disobeys me, I throw her out of my house. Thank goodness Montreal is so cold! This would never have worked in Hawaii. But don’t worry, I never do so without giving her a pen and paper so she can get back inside by writing a 5 page essay about why I’m always right. Hey, Steph knows best!
I am the world’s #1 pickup artist. My approach is very simple: just walk up to the girl, stare at her uncomfortably, and be super, duper polite. It works every time! Nevermind the fact that no one has ever actually SEEN me do an actual approach without having my trusty fan club of fawning asskissing slaves surrounding me and giving me massive rockstar social proof… and despite the fact that all of the girls I’ve hung out with in the past 2 years I met by having Ghita befriend them first and then yelling at them until they realize they are attracted to me… I AM a great pickup artist.
Well that’s it for now I guess. Remember, if you’re ever feeling lonely, you can always flip on my chakra program and listen to my creepy voice programming you with love.
Be well,
Stephane
To Above,
I love being filled with creepy voice love programming.
With my thanks and love,
Hutch
Ross, Thundercat is bashing and badmouthing other people to increase traffic, which means more exposure to his affiliates. Which includes YOU!
It is called business. It would give a much more professional impression of you if you stick to the same rules. Let personal issues asides and just mutually benefit from customers buying your products and the things Thundercat promotes.
On the other hand, potential affiliates will be irritated by the fact that you disclose (confidential) business relations, which just harms your business in the long run.
I can’t say Thundercat is telling the truth in his podcast, but the above POST is 100% real information about Steph.
Just to give you guys another perspective, some quotes from the forum. I’ll start with the story mentioned above about where Steph “stuffed ghita’s mouth with semen and tricked him into kissing her. If you think this is funny, congratulations!”
***
Steph wrote about that on the forum:
Psychonaut says you’re a master reframer and rationalise bad behaviour with ‘compassion’. He cites the dragon butter incident. ‘Peter’ says you’re just an NLP master.
The word “just” means ONLY.
I do not identify with any such labels, I’m a spiritual being, not a “NLP being”. Although I am certainly very good with reframing, yes that’s true, thanks for noticing.
Dragon Butter is a hilarious story that I have shared, not just for a good laugh, but to wake people up about the reality of cheating, loyalty, and so on. It’s certainly not recommended. It’s just something we did three years ago when my LoC was not even close to what it is today. “DB” definitely lacks in compassion.
So this is “proof” that I currently have no compassion?
hardly.
****
Dan and Bob (maxamillion) think that training is fear based and forcing people to fit your image. They also don’t like yelling and spanking.
***
Stephane wrote:
They should look up the word ‘training” in the dictionary.
training is teaching, and you can’t force anyone to learn if they do not want to. Ghita and Greta ask me questions almost every day, they seek guidance, help, advice, wisdom. And I’m happy to do whatever i can to help them.
That’s love. And that’s polarity.
Yelling is raising the volume of voice. It’s not good nor bad. When a child is about to hurt himself, yelling will snap him out of danger much more effectively than a whisper would. That’s love.
It’s not the tool, it’s the intention and context of where and how one uses it. Hammers can be used to destroy or build. Yelling can be used to get someone’s attention, it’s a pattern interrupt.
And it sure beats a punch in the nose. 212
“Spanking’ is just a funny word we use. It’s actually just teaching someone boundaries. Please note that 5DC is the first thing taught in the GTP.
10) Falc and Bob say they’ve noticed inconsistancies in your life story – you’ve supposedly said you got lots of girls as a teenager, but have also said you were lacking success until the community came along.
Well, sucess is a vague term. Those guys consider sticking one’s penis in the v@gina of a few dozen girls to be “success”.
I certainly do not. Real success – to me – is a lot deeper than that.
Anyway, after high school was over, I still had very little actual pickup skills. In high school, girls would just bring other girls to me, and it was done. Especially once i had a reputation, girls flock to the alpha’s and i was the main guy.
Without the rep and social proof, getting girls from street approaches and this new dark place known as “bars & clubs” definitely humbled me.
My main sticking point was that I was too yin. The community helped me to beome more yang, especially when i left it behind and cultivated a more spiritual approach. ieventually mastered yin/yang andtoday i no longer identify with being ‘man” or “woman”. Of course, i look down and see a pen*s, but “I am not the penis”
somebody please shoot hermon
FACT:
The people who have the most negative image of Steph are the ones who actually MET the guy
In the post by Stephane he mentions his girlfriend Ghita. She left him over a month ago.
After having read all the testimonials from the people close to him and finding that they all point to the same inconsistencies, there is absolutely NO QUESTION in my mind that Stephane is full of shit !
“In the post by Stephane he mentions his girlfriend Ghita. She left him over a month ago.”
Yup, the post i quoted is a few months old, but it adresses some of the points that stephane is critisized for.
somebody please please shoot hermon.
he won t mind as the motherfuckers ascending soon anyway.
he just wants the 1k a month for the magic beans as a leaving present.
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Here is the review from the http://www.psychic101.com website:
“Stephane Hemon from Ideagasms is a fraud. We no longer support his products or recommend them. We do not want be associated with such a dishonest individual who has the nerves to pretend teaching about Compassion and Unconditional Love.”
(http://www.psychic101.com/articles/28/1/Review-Stephane-Hemon—Chakra-Meditation/Page1.html)
“So it’s pretty much official – Stephane is a psycho. Stay away, and buyer beware’
Wake up and smell the java…ALL of the gurus are sociopaths/scumbags
it’s very easy for a person with anto social personality disorder to lie and become a guru anf get a following..just post on the intenet, make friends with the right people.
Hopefully the seduction movement will die because of this, but unfortunately there are young and naive people people out there who will look for direction and get taken and lose there innocence.
It looks like the Ideasgasm website went down..
Stephane Hemon somehow made contact with spiritual forces beyond his control and now his complexes are slowly testing his mettle. He has no idea that he started something he doesn’t know how to finish and he is slowly mentally disintegrating.
Stephane has moved over into magical territory and he needs to start practising magical hygiene before he becomes yet another New Age nutcase. In other words, he needs to banish and ground regularly to come down to earth.
He needs to do different meditations to clear his mind. For example, mental control exercises such as vipassana or raj yoga to settle his cortical system; and possibly depth psychology exercises such as the death posture or Denning & Phillips’ Formula Three (from their book Astral Projection) to resolve his repressed emotional complexes before they overtake him. He may also want to start cleaning his chakras on a more regular basis. These are basic things he can do to get himself back down to earth.
I hope he can get it together soon and get out of the rut he’s in.
Sure,
He just needs to get his hands on my new Advanced Astral Chakras Balancing program.
Only 199.95$ for a limited time.
Dude, take this to the Montreal cops now. Get pics of him, and the statements you’ve made
backed up by the other members of the board. This guy is a psychopath. He’ll go underground
for a while and resurface in a much more dangerous way now that he’s been snubbed. Take it
to the cops. Now. Get a file on this nut job.
Calm down kemo sobby, it ain’t that serious.
The only people he can hurt are those gullible souls who fall for his bullshit. Oh wait, my bad. Let me correct myself. The only people he can hurt are his remaining pickup artist fanboys.
Oh wait…gullible souls…pickup artist fanboys…same difference.
Some of you pickup regulars take this shit way too seriously. I hope you realize that the rest of the world thinks of pickup artists in general as the Trekkies/KISS Army of the dating world.
Aka a bunch of nerds who collect all the products and travel from convention to convention worshipping a bunch of actors and gossiping over fairy tales.
Wow. This is crazy. Sadly I think this is an extreme example of what goes on in many other camps in this industry. RSD comes to mind first…..
“I hope you realize that the rest of the world thinks of pickup artists in general as the Trekkies/KISS Army of the dating world.”
Uh … the dating world? Is that like the anti-matter married world, as opposed to the single world?
And you’re here because you just happened to stop by, because your better than this and just a part of the more casual, jockier, dating world?
Newsflash: The rest of the world doesn’t think of the “Pick-Up-Artists” as anything, they just don’t think of us much at all. Even the ones who do actually think of us wouldn’t recognize us if they talked with us.
By the way, does your “score” exceed those of the nerdy actors who actually succeed at this?
I doubt it.
i come to think of a pink floyd tune..might be appropriate in this case ” shine on your crazy diamond”
TC give us a Booty Show
We have viewed many ads on your site
We _Expect_ results
maybe have your Rappin Matt persona do the show, RAPS Y’ALL
A Latecast
haha seriously this stephane sounds psycho when reading this article. True or not? well it sounds convincing but who knows.
anyone who is comparing rsd, mystery, or any other company to him is prob a little gullible as well.
this stephane is a one man group leader, he has no other normal humans to keep him in check unlike the other companies.
He has a whole bunch of theories that he almost states are neccassary to become a great human.
well ok, maybe famous guys like mystery also have a method that some pple will adhere to like its a bible. still, they have enough other instructors and figureheads to ensure that that never become totally one dimensional
And RSD stuff is basic enough that most normal humans can understand it without much argument. They dont even have a stand against anything. There r pple who cant stand their popularity, and thats fair enuff
and they have enough normal guys working as instructors to have different opininions and ensuring there is no one thing that becomes dogmatic and applies to everyone in the company. what one insructor always does another one might not. which makes the public realize there is always more than one way to get anything done.
even when companies like pickup101 started to flounder, their top instructors all quit at more or less the same time and still they have enough normal guys left to keep a somewhat balanced perspective on everything.
Its the same with most of the other companies with more than a couple of instructors.
On the other hand Stephane is ANTI this and ANTI that that he belives he is the authority on everything true in the world.
Dont have anything against the guy and i can understand that when u have a lot of pple telling u that u are right, it becomes pretty easy to believe ur own hype.
This guys could do with some other pple as partners. Keeping each other in check. Whether his “non-ego” will allow himself to do that is a different matter. Whether someone is even willing to be his partner is questionable as well.
partner? he claims to have surpassed jesus. who do you want him to team up with? buddha? lol
Mickey…
Chuck Norris
No more podcasts!
Whats up with that TC…
A business marketer knows better then to not keep his commitments.
High Holy Jewish Holiday took out Adam and TC…
Maybe Adam’s Hot n Spicey Pork Chop babe could do it:
news item#1
“Adam has ok game, his 14-inch personality won me over”
Chop Chop!!
AmyJo (who was part of Stephane’s circle with Ghita) posted this on the ex-IG forum:
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SUBJECT: Stephane hit Ghita
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I had been pondering for some time whether it would be fair to Ghita to post this. She had told me that she was not interested in telling the truth about Stephane right now.
I know how she feels. I didn’t want to say anything after I left him either.
But at this point, the only thing I’m interested in is the truth and all of you have the right to know the truth about a man who is teaching you to have heart-centered and love-filled relationships.
Stephane hit Ghita and gave her a black eye, as well as punched her in the leg giving her a purple/yellow/blue bruise on her leg the size of a CD. No joke, this thing was fucking crazy.
He made a post about this instant lying to you guys. Way back, he made a post about going to a bar to do PU with an IGer or something, I can’t quite remember, but he said something about getting in a fight, and getting thrown out of the bar.
On the phone he told me he had got in a fight and poor Ghita tried to stop it and got punched in the face. I can’t remember if he had also told you guys this.
Later during the second IG meet-up, he confessed to me that they were fighting and he was the one that hit her. He padded this by saying that Ghita was provoking him, making it seem like punching her is somehow justified.
I know Ghita may be embarressed, but I know that you guys need to know this stuff. Please be sensitive to Ghita’s feelings when responding.
AmyJo
That’s fucked. But what goes around comes around. Montreal is not that big of a city.
I heard Stephane also beat his mother… to death.
Then he ate her.
Then he shitted her out and molded the shit into a chocolate vagina. then he had sex with it.
Then he closed the shit-cum up like a Boston cream donut and ate it.
Then he found Ossama Bin Laden and gave him a blowjob over the corpse of an American soldier wrapped in the American flag. And wiped the giz off his mouth with a page from the bible.
And that soldier was an orphan.
After that, Ossama bought only 4 of Stephane’s 5 products, so he got booted from the message board.
I swear to god this is true.
This is an actual email sent to “Sanders” from the Stephane. Sanders was a student and follower of IG and offered Stephane a place to stay and do his workshop and this is what Stephane sent to him recently.
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers/index.php?showtopic=270
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
So you have no questions for me? WHY would you be organizing this
event in the first place? “To help others”?
Sanders, your male pride, get a grip man.
I know things you don’t know, and my experience speaks for itself.
Quit trying to BS yourself that you’re my friend on my level.
You’re a student, so start behaving like one.
You still suck with women, you get all confused in their presence,
nervous, approach anxiety…
Don’t you want to break free?
You little prick know-it-all’s are going to be getting a mouthful when
i arrive. We’ll see who is seeking truth versus who isn’t.
Guys, you’re about to MEET ME in real person. I’m the guy who’s been
teaching you cutting-edge stuff on dating sex and relationships since 4 years ago. If I were you, I would carry a notepad around, to jot down your questions.
Don’t take this meetup for granted. It will probably be my last one, anyway. In a sense, I am coming all the way there to say goodbye to most of you. START thinking about your questions, even the embarassing ones admitting you STILL have approach anxiety, or how you still worry is your penis big enough, and your secret fantasy that you’ve been wondering if it’s healthy or sick to want
such a thing. Don’t bullshit yourself into thinking, “I only want to learn about
transcending sympathy”. What a joke – I posted the solution several
times on the forums, but nobody HEARD the solution to sympathy.
Of course I’m going to assist you with sympathy issues, but it’s going
to be a LOT more than that. Remember the (tentative) title, “Cracking
the female code”. Of course I will end up using a different name, but
you all get the intention behind it. It’s time for us to finally solve
the female puzzles in your life. And I’m on the forefront of this
consciousness, so don’t treat me like I’m your buddy. I’m not paying
money to see YOU speak.
So, I want to prepare everyone for this meetup. I’ve got some NEW
insights, but I won’t share unless I feel a serious truth-seeking
energy from you. Why would I?
With MOST of you – You guys all think that since i left Ghita,
everything I’ve taught must be wrong, flawed since GTP’ness didn’t
“work out on ghita”, And how I must have really lost her,
as if she didn’t want to be with ME anymore. Because nobody in their
right mind would toss away a CIRCLE GIRL, right? So you think
*something* must be wrong with that guy, Stephane.
She was so sweet. And then you start doubting my integrity, but all
you know self-doubt very well. So is it my integrity, or your self-
doubt and paranoia? Hmmm…?
I know what self-doubt is guys, I know paranoia very well too. And,
I’m very aware of just how many of you are coming to this event simply
because you want to get drunk with me, pretend that you’re on my level
of consciousness, and especially – many of you are attending this
because you want to get the latest tabloid ghita news, straight from
the source.
my leaving Ghita only shows you how FOR REAL I am. Imagine leaving a
perfect circle girl who would do anything for me? She literally would do
*anything* for me. Something you all secretly dream of, I might add.
You guys better start thinking long and hard about what it is you wish
to GET OUT of this weekend. All of the little dark corners, all the
ways in which you hide from yourselves,
the excuses you give for not having women in your life, ALL of it is
coming OUT during this event, and anybody who plays dumb (or plays
“wise”) is getting booted.
You can tell everyone I said so, in fact, I’m asking you to please
send them a “message I got from Stephane” and just copy and paste the
above.
We are here to change our lives, so let’s fucking do so already.
Thanks kid,
Stephane Hemon
now thats compassion ha ha ha
It’s amazing seeing all of this written here, this guy was my guru for almost a year but essentially I was getting brainwashed. It’s nice to see this and to really understand that that is exactly what happened to me…makes me feel much better. I have been kicked off of his site for more than 8 months now because I criticised a few of his things. I was more vocal and just could not fit in on his site. Everybody was constantly praising him and metaphorically sucking his dick…I just couldn’t make sense of it or follow their example. As a result of this I began having serious doubts about him. I met him once and had some serious questions that his products and newsgroup led me to believe he would be able to answer.
First of all he was drunk and stoned, second of all he gave me answers that were completely without any substance. He was never letting Ghita talk and essentially dominated all conversations. Anyways his chakra program and GTP have some solid material in them but, they were all essentially plagiarised or stolen from a lot of other people.
I saw stephane fucking one of his male groupies.
Barry rereleased his interview with Stephane from July this Weekend in which Steph claimed to be the one to be ripped off by Steve P. The one that lead to thundys moralistic monogamy sermon afterwards
http://www.revolution31.com/blog/
Are these SHILLS here for the various companies or something? Is the public THAT stupid to be swayed by commercial fodder?
If you find yourself changing your opinion of someone you never met, or, god forbid, getting ready to act out, based on the words of someone else you never met, it’s time to call yourself a shrink.
Do you REALLY think an SHB is going to respect any man who develops internet man-crushes over someone charging all that money to teach them how to get….HER?
The most offensive imagery of all in this is the elevation of some dumb slut to princess, by virtue of how much money is spent trying to win her over.
Ray. Are you still Foxhunting after all these years of no sex?
Are you still living in your momma’s basement?
It boggles my mind how anyone can be as insane as you are. I mean, I think there’s an intelligent guy somewhere in there, but the firing of your neurons is so out of whack that you continually screw yourself over.
Why don’t you go to a Lair and watch a little, so that you can actually SEE that success with women is easily attainable with a little intelligent self improvement?
I can’t for the life of me understand how people could have been duped by this guy Stephane. I mean, there are methods out there that actually WORK, with instructors who have alot better resume than that one crappy David DeDumbAss interview and one freakin’ girlfriend.
Sure the man must have some game, at least with somnambulistic LSE people, or he wouldn’t have been able to brainwash a whole cult. But why not go for the tried-and-true instructors who make logical sense instead of some nobody who spouts David Koresh new age nonsense insessantly?
er… incessantly?
This is interesting. The seduction industry is kind of like the fitness industry. Both have jackasses that claim this or that. Except for the fact in the fitness industry there are HOT GIRLS.
How can most of you guys sit here and talk nonsense about this and that. Thats like a bunch of guys/girls talking about “working out” instead of working out. LOL LOL
What’s wrong with girls talking about methods for working out?
I had a very interesting discussion with a personal trainer girl today about working out on a day2.
And if learning about women and seduction is so uncool, why the fuck are you here?
Email me and we’ll meet next time your in southern georgia if you think that learning seduction can’t make a man successful with women.
I called it on Stephane way back in 2005.
To double-check I didn’t get the year wrong, I dug this up fron the archives:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=10&mn=1125480939241379%26dateto%3D
Arg, link of course was broke, here is the valid one:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=10&mn=1125480939241379
(TC – need an edit feature here lol)
Seduction Maestro, you are a fucking idiot. Who said anything about learning “seduction” being uncool ?? Most of you clowns would rather spend time “reading” about seduction instead of doing it. Thats like a 400 lbs fat ass doing research on the best training methods, the best personal trainers. Then doing some more reading. Is it coming together now, you ass!! LOL LOL
As for me, well I’m one of those lucky guys who good looking enough to have women open him. Oh but wait a min, I had to spend some time in the gym to be in shape. This seduction stuff is great. I mean, there are some stuff that really helps but at the same time just like the fitness industry there is so much BULLSHIT. Its unreal.
Like I said most of you guys are is 400 lbs FAT PIECE OF SHIT!!! And Maestro, you are JUST JUNK!!! Get your Thunder Cats nuts out of your mouth. Bitch!!
Woah, a lot of you guys are seriously fucked up, you spend time on the internet all day distorting facts? You hide behind the computer because you’re anonymous here, but in person you’d have no balls or guts when it comes to honesty. Totally below integrity…but you wouldn’t get that anyway because you’re so stuck in it.
I’m not an ex-ideagasmer at all, and that email was sent to me to motivate me to sort my life out and fuel me for questions to ask at the seminar, wait till you guys here the new recording. We’ve only been recording a few hours and it’s mind-blowing!! You guys who have no integrity at all will HATE it
, and the guys who have integrity will LOVE it. There will be a clear divide.
Whoever posted the message that Steph sent me, that I privately sent to them, CLEARLY lacks integrity, there’s NO hope for you.
Sanders… why dont you go back and read what you just wrote. Does that sound like love and light to you?
I would tell you to watch out because Stephane is nuts… but you’ll see it for yourself.
Sanders, remember when stephane talks about being humble, that all his attractiveness/wisdom/charm is from GOD and not from his self? So where is it in that PM he sent you? I am so saddened by that message, believe me. I really liked and looked upto him, but if that Pm was truly from stephane, then I don’t know what to say.
He speaks as if he has nothing to learn. Question those who think they know it all. I am really sad to hear this about stephane.
“The “higher” we get up on the throne of development in any particular area the higher there is to fall from, and so inevitably we seek to keep our place. Real strength and wisdom however is understood through learning to take the falls. We learn to meet the ground and we gain yet another opportunity to understand illusion. What is it that is hurting when we admit that we are fallible? What is it that is stinging when we allow other people to know that we do not know all? That we may even have something we could learn from them? Through this particular kind of exquisite pain we reveal the shape of our pride. We trace out the image of the personality that we have chosen to develop and we gain the opportunity to seek more. How much stability do we truly receive from our false pride? How much strength and empowerment do we truly receive from pretending that we are flawless? How strong can the inner child become when we simply continue to shelter it from the world?”
Hieu Doan
Sanders,
Stephane even said to “send this message. Copy and Paste.”
That is what we did. Isn’t that integrity? Or are you just mad because Stephane is an idiot and we are exposing him? Maybe you have so much invested in him that you can’t bear to see the fact— Stephane is a phony who is using some major reframing to justify every bit of BS he pulls.
Isn’t him loosing Ghita proof enough??
Personally, I think allowing a baffoon like Stephane out there is bad enough. We are doing the integrity of exposing him.
“”"”Woah, a lot of you guys are seriously fucked up, you spend time on the internet all day distorting facts? “”"”
Um, what facts are being distorted, pray tell?
“”"”You hide behind the computer because you’re anonymous here, but in person you’d have no balls or guts when it comes to honesty.”"”"
What in the world are you basing that on?
“”"”Totally below integrity…but you wouldn’t get that anyway because you’re so stuck in it.”"”"
What person or institution appointed you the Official Determiner of Other People’s Integrity?
“”"”I’m not an ex-ideagasmer at all”"”"
Not yet
“”"”and that email was sent to me to motivate me to sort my life out and fuel me for questions to ask at the seminar, wait till you guys here the new recording. We’ve only been recording a few hours and it’s mind-blowing!!”"”"
He abuses you because he loves you. Right.
“”"”You guys who have no integrity at all will HATE it
, and the guys who have integrity will LOVE it. There will be a clear divide.”"”"
How confident you are in your ideology, that you automatically interpret dissent as a lack of integrity on the part of the audience? What does arrogance calibrate at again?
“”"”Whoever posted the message that Steph sent me, that I privately sent to them, CLEARLY lacks integrity, there’s NO hope for you.”"”"
What does anger, cloaked as smug pity, calibrate at?
It’s going to be an interesting week on The Barry Kirkey Radio Show on http://www.revolution31.com/blog . Barry is havingan interview with an Ex-Ideagasm, Ex-girlfriend supposedly this coming week. And Deepthroat, the show’s Public Liason has annouced that it’s going to be extra-special for all the Ex-Ideagasm people out there.
http://www.revolution31.com/blog Revolution31 Barry Kirkey Radio Show has no-holds-barred dirt on the dirty.
Oh yeah, looks like Thundercat was on the money in his BKRS interview with Barry about Stephane. Well Done JM.
When I first joined Ideagasms, I was still a virgin. Since then, I’ve slept with 10 times as many women as I ever have before.
PureEvil:
>Like I said most of you guys are is 400 lbs FAT PIECE OF SHIT!!! And Maestro, you are JUST >JUNK!!! Get your Thunder Cats nuts out of your mouth. Bitch!!
Dude, I am not a fan of Thundie. I’m an SS student and I like my ol’ buddy Swingcat’s stuff too. Ever want to test your meddle come sarging with me. Click the name to contact me.
Sanders:
>Isn’t him loosing Ghita proof enough??
No. Relationships end, and being good at relationships isn’t a prerequisite of being a great PUA. But his stupid ideas, inability to approach, and the ridiculous nut job “frequency” BS certainly is proof enough.
“When I first joined Ideagasms, I was still a virgin. Since then, I’ve slept with 10 times as many women as I ever have before.”
Uh…10 times 0 is stil 0, dillweed.
>Uh…10 times 0 is stil 0, dillweed.
Lol, owned.
Sanders is right.
There’s no hope for people without integrity.
There’s no hope for Stephane.
SANDERS, teenage know-it-all
I’ll see you in a few years when you come back from your cult !
i know listening to booty cast you wont have heard one but i believe portis is telling a joke you idiot
Hey everyone!
My name’s Amy Jo. As you all probably know by now, I’ll be talking with Barry tomorrow.
I know how sensitive this issue seems to be, is Stephane a liar? Is he not? Is he good? Bad? Evil? A Saint?
I’ll do my best to distinguish fact (I’ve seen and experienced quite a bit of his insanity, right in front of my eyes, in real life) and will share those things, and I will also be sure to tell you what I’ve heard from Ghita after she left (obviously things I can’t confirm by experience, but can definitely believe after my own experience and what I know of him).
While it’s true that a lot of women fall into a victim mentality, my intention is not to defame Stephane, put him down, etc. My goal is to simply put the truth out there for anyone who wishes to have it.
I’m not mad at Stephane personally. I left him and was very satisfied in my decision. I have no real motivation to attack him on the sole grounds that I am a victim. I’m not the victim at all. If anything I got a free ticket to Montreal and had the adventure of my life because of this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunwitch View Post
Can’t just believe every claim chicks make, they often use their weakness as a weapon this way. I have been with women who claim their ex used to beat em or such, and it turns out she was lying.
Gun
Stephane TOLD me he hit her, Ghita had huge bruises and a black eye that I saw with my own eyes. She was also extremely embarressed that Stephane had confessed to hitting her. She did not want me to think that Stephane was full of shit, when she knew deep down that he was/is.
I’m not a very dramatic person. There is a difference between someone saying, “Oooooh I heard Stephane hit Ghita! What an asshole!” and someone who has FACTUAL information who is saying, “Hey fans and students of ideaGasms. I wanted to let you know that the person who is teach you how to have heart-centered relationships, is also using his girlfriend as a bunching bag, and I don’t think that a person who punches their girlfriends when they are mad can be considered an authority on heart-centered unconditional loving relationships.”
I’m not here to gossip. I don’t have time for that.
You’re right, you can’t believe every claim chicks make…. however, whatever truths I’m exposing has nothing to do with my weaknesses or my being a woman, they simply have to do with truth and that’s it.
I’ve got no reason to take out a personal vendetta on Stephane.
Am I credible? Ask the people I’ve been talking to for the past year and a half I’ve been apart of IG/Ex-IG…. I’ve never lied, I’ve always been honest, people who meet me in person can verify this. Anything I ever posted about my PU or experiences were very true, and often times were honest about things that were personal and left me very vulnerable to judgement. I get a serious rush out of shocking people with my honesty.
I’ve never given anyone in this community any reason to doubt me. People on the IG and ex-IG forum can confirm by my posts, that I am a very reasonable person (even though I am a woman ) who has always been on a pursuit for truth.
Anyway, just wanted to pop in an say hi and introduce myself and comment a little bit on the post that was made about Stephane….
Also, as a little exciting bit of info., Ghita is coming to stay with me in San Diego, CA on the 25th for a couple of weeks!!!
AmyJo
MAKE OUT..MAKE out..MAKE OUT
@Seduction Maestro
I agree, relationships do end. But Stephane made it very clear that if ghita were to leave him, he’d give up and become a monk.
So it isn’t like any other break up. Steph broke up with Amy Jo too. Steph broke up with the true gold inside of Ideagasms. Honestly, It was all Ghita. Ghita is ideagasms.
yo dude
GHITA LEFT Stephane
AMYJO LEFT Stephane
Stephane is just reframing it as him “having to let them go”
that’s the truth
I’m always right !
or else I’ll reframe it until you see that I’m always right ! There is always a way to reframe everything with IG, and so many inexperienced gullible teenagers to believe every word I say!
Guys, this world is filled with energy vampires, people who live in fear, with no integrity, constantly in hell, and miserable… the world is SO miserable, can’t you see ? I know people better than they know themselves, trust me! I used to be suicidal for most of my life, but reading spiritual books has given me an edge over them. I can now afford to think that the misery is OUTSIDE of me, not inside. Please let me believe that everybody is living in HELL, that way I can feel like I’m normal. Look at TD, Mystery, DavidD and SteveP: those guys cry themselves to sleep every night.
If you don’t understand what I say, it means you still live in a prison of fear. Don’t worry, one day you’ll wake up and you’ll be as enlightened as me. I pray for your salvation every night. Lord, please forgive them, for they don’t know what they do. I’m so compassionate !! It’s already been pre-decided before I incarnated into this body that I would become enlightened and help humanity raise their level of Consciousness. I’ve had this realization while I was on coke the other day.
This is what I’m really curious about. there are tried and true methods. Gunwich, SS, MM, Swingcat, even DavidD. So why did you guys get duped?
I have found that some nerds want to believe that they have the best, most unique system, and have some rebellious thing where they want to believe that everyone else has got the average stuff and they’ve got the shiznit.
This fucking guy couldn’t even APPROACH WOMEN! And when he di he CREEPED THEM OUT!
Why would someone go to him instead of any of the other gurus that have actual, verifiable credit?
was it his whopping 2 girlfriends?
The PUA summit?
The david D interview?
Why on earth did you choose a nobody and get sucked into a cult when there are plenty of coaches with thousands of testimonials, pick-up vids on YouTube, and real credibility from more than just one source?
it’s like choosing Big K Cola over Coke!
I will not stand idly by while you downgrade “Big K Cola”, you bastard!
I saw this big ol’ can of Big K cola the other day, and I was all like:
Gulp-out
Gulp-out
Gulp-out
Gulp-out
I played football with TD, and he was all like
fake-out
fake-out
fake-out
fake-out
Then he took me to mcDonalds and was all like
take out
take out
take out
take out
That’s when he asked me to spy on Barry, and I was all like:
stakeout
stakeout
stakeout
stakeout
that’s funny because I was helping Tyler do some gardening and lawn maintenace and I went into the shed and was all
rakeout
rakeout
rakeout
rakeout
then we met Matador for a pie making contest and it was all
bakeout
bakeout
bakeout
bakeout
and then his wig fell off
Then TD took off his shirt and I was like
Rollout
Rollout
Rollout
Rollout
I just got back from Tyler’s place. He showed me his Atari 2600, and we played
Breakout
Breakout
Breakout
Breakout
But after I beat him, he was all like
Freakout
Freakout
Freakout
Freakout
Then he asked me to leave and said
Stay out
Stay out
Stay out
Stay out
Hello to all of you who read this. I am Steph’s uncle by marriage,my wife (stephs mother’s sister)is a naturopath who was taught byDoreen Mary Bray a recognized professional Naturopath teacher. She can be found at http://www.iehinstitute.com/. Thr truth is that steph never completed a single course with Doreen. His books ARE 100% plagiarised off of her teachings and other peoples sites. His use of numbers for spiritual consciousness are used out of context and quite easily exposed as self serving to show himself vibrating higher than others. A self proclaimed master of chakras ,he only did a 3week course and now calls himself a guru. Needless to say has he insulted those who have studied for years to attain “faithful student status” its obvious his ego has done him in. Truth is ,when you brag about how good you are,it actually puts your karmic vibrations into the negatives…. My wife and I are saddened by the recent course of events. We were there to help and yet he blogs she(my wife) is insane,this has upset her, yet Karmically we wish him to find the path of light. The dark side has a firm grip on him,his ego and his thirst for fame and glory will be his downfall. Having heard first hand from his sister Brit. about Ghita,this too is a saddening event. In spring of 2007, my wife and had I travelled to a seminar together with ghita and steph and his business partner( forgot his name..ooops) the only thing they there for in Kelowna b.c. was to drink ;drink;and play pool ,the “enlightenment seminar was an excuse for a party. His passion was to go online check how many sales he had that day so he knew how much he could spend. I had talked to him about his business ethics and he flat out said ,people are stupid and will pay anything to get out of their inability to pickup girls for sex. This obviously set the tone for the week. The week passed and we have not spoken since. His flagrant disrespect of people and mainly women being a disgusting diplay of usury. He has used Ghita like squeezing an orange dry,Ghita is now sick and no longer useful to him,out she goes and in with Greta ,the newest Squeeze.Hopefully she will read this and come to her senses. His negative energy has borken his aunts heart to pieces. How many more people will he hurt before it ends.
We have moved on in our lives and with 4 wonderful kids and now a grandson. My sosns and daughters know ofstephanes antics ,being of similar age ,and have told me this is not new age but of an egomanical pervert . His life is now at a standstill being infected with herpes and is probably
hiv positive. He has made a lot of people sick and poisoned their brains with his form of lust.
Life is a committment not a “game” to see who can one exploit next.
Stephane is exactly what Karma preaches against. His Chakras are all closed and not open to enlightenment. His drinking and drugs provides his light ,not his his heart chakra..
I walked up to this girl the other day, and it was like
Chakra
Chakra
Chakra
Chakra
hey JC, this is what steph says about Doreen:
“Dorreen is at 570, the levelof the Saints – think mother theresa. This is why she is on a mission to save the world, and sacrifices ALL of her personal life in order to serve mankind.
Once she gets to level 600, she will then realize that she can “save the world” by forgetting her students for a while and working on herself.
If you think of the ocean, with boats on it. The ocean is the level of consciousness of all humanity, and the boats are the individual people.
Doreen is trying to raise the boats by lifting them up. This is very loving and noble of her, but certainly not the wisest way of helping mankind.
If instead she would raise the OCEAN, literally ALL of the boats will rise higher. This is a good metaphor to explain what happens when someone raises their consciousness.”
Lol, dont’ you see that Stephane built a sect ?
Amy Jo interview at http://www.revolution31. com
http://www.ThunderBLOB.com (Barry’s Forum)
I asked David Garmaise (who knows Steph’s family) if he thought the message above was authentic, he said:
“OH yeah that is definatly Stephanes uncle, a great guy too helped me when I was down and out but I was too much of an idiot to actually appreciate it, Stephane has a great family to bad hes an idiot who alienates himself from everyone. JC is a cool dude, he brought me upnorth in his trailer called Big Bertha hahaha.”
If you really want to know the truth, take your mind out of the equation and calibrate Stephane himself using the map of consciousness created by Dr. David Hawking. You have to be an integrous person in the first place, though to do this.
Because of that comment I’ll take you down 300 points.
I was in the IG forum… it’s a cult for sure. Funny thing i wuz thinking about stephane recently, i wuz like Ghita is gonna dump his ass soon. And poof it happend.
All this New-Age crap… is crap.
He’s gonna end up in a mental institute soon.
Greta is gonna dump his ass pretty soon I think
if she didn’t already
but i just wanna make out. ;(
i know more techniques than u can even speculate…
So then I went and helped Tyler remodel his bathroom and I was all like
White Grout
White Grout
White Grout
White Grout
Then I put in his new sink and he was like I love that
Chrome Spout
Chrome Spout
Chrome Spout
Chrome Spout
He also ripped off Steve Piccus.
Maybe i will show some unedited stuff of stephane asking Steve P to show him more.
Hi Everyone; If JOHN reads this and Speaks to David Germaise please have David call us . We miss him a bunch and would like to see how the heck he is doing.We hope he finds his path with love and a positive direction to his endeavours to forge ahead in life.He has had it real tough in the past ,yet if he wants ,the future is completely upto him and he can wipe the past clean and move forward ( there I go again..its the DAD in me…sorry.)
btw Big Bertha is a 35 foot motorhome…my escape pod vehicle on the weeeknds…
Back to he story of life; If Stephane sees this ,lets clarify the number thing. This was something never taught by Doreen Bray. It was some thing a guy called Horai and his pendulum on this little chart came up with.He was a dark dude.Maybe this is why Steph likes it ,it qualifies his ego so as to put him above us..so sad. If it were to apply to Doreen..5 000 000 would be a start.. the best part she would never tell a soul ,she doesnt have an ego that requires the flattery.What Steph is missing out on ,is her meditations on her web site.FOR FREE…Her site is available worldwide.. obviously. Its there for free,no membership required… point made.
We can’t change the world,but we can change ourselves in how we look at the world.Matter of perspective,You are who you manifest. If you wake up and say todays a good day..you have made a choice. step 1 to living the life of inner peace..If I wake up
saying todays the day I “play” the game;inner or whatever,thats what you will do ,over and over throughout your lifetimes. We are on this world to better ourselves every time we
attain consciousness in the living world.
Thanks to you for reading this,maybe with a little luck it’ll counter Steph’s hurt he has done to people. All I can do is hope and project it out there. Thank to Thundercat for this opportunity to post this message. BTW Gold Splinter.. you nailed it..
cool, I sent him an e-mail… but you can also e-mail him at:
davetothegrave@gmail.com
Top ten reasons to choose L. Ron Hubbard over Stephane:
10. Both Scientology and IG involve a stark raving lunatic, but women actually find Tom Cruise attractive.
9. Scientology’s enemy is a baddass evil alien overlord. Ideagasm’s enemy is a fat guy who calls himself Thundercat.
8. With Scientology, you have to shell out a bunch of money, but you get to hear some wacky stories. Oh wait, that’s the same as IG.
7. With Scientology, you get a network of powerful and influential people. With IG, you get a drunk coke-head with genital warts.
6. Scientology’s doctrine has been the same since L. Ron Hubbard. Steph changes his doctrine every time you poop.
5. L. Ron wrote sci-fi. He clearly knows what makes a man a man.
4. Scientology uses cool “scientific” equipment. Sure it doesn’t do anything real, but it’s cool.
3. Dianetics sounds more formidable than the GTP.
2. In Scientology, the followers are led to believe they are actually ascending to higher levels. In IG, the followers are led to believe Stephane is ascending to higher levels while they get more pathetic in his wake.
And the number one reason to choose L. Ron Hubbard over Stephane:
1. Xenu is fun to say.
Hey Thundie…uh…The Pickup Artist season 2 just started. I know this thread is getting you lots of hits and all but…if you can tear yourself away from that fried PBandJ samitch and your entrepreneur scam sites long enough to comment on it you’d be up wid the times and shit!
You shoulda been on it, dude! The contents don’t need all that much work. But if you hadda been on it, then Mystery would have a real challenge on his hands!
I think TC wants us to beg for content !!
He is the Chris Angel of podcasts, escape artist not pikup artist
Is he on strike? Will pod for foooooooooooooood?
Is he at a Strip Klubb ??
Is he Trying to import some warts from Steph ???
WartsmakeMoney!!! Rappin Matt into scat .NET ???
Do you want an income from Warts?
Warts grow as you sleep EASY EASY EASY
Post some ads, Warts will do the rest
Bonus ebook on eating food and growing zits n tits, and losing hair !!
Special bonus with AJ + Jordan!
CONVERSIONZZZZZ!!!
Thanks John!
Heard thru the family that the revised version of Steph and Ghita…
Seems that it was Greta who decked Ghita and not steph. both greta and Steph were high on something( who knows what.. )and when Ghita came to their place, a fight broke out and Greta seems to have done the damage and not Steph.. cops were called etc.. drama,drama,….and so goes the downward spiral…into the abyss of the dark side.Hope Ghita gets better soon and has outgrown the mess Steph has created. Chakras and dope and 24/7 drunk somehow don’t command the respect of the spirtual world…ya think…
This blog is a slight not only against Stephane but against others Thundercat will likely use to one-up in times of darkness. Now what I see here posted is a bunch of disenchanted people posting. I wouldn’t doubt some of you at one point did “Hero-Worship” the guy while many times he’s said he was never perfect and to NOT do it.
I wasn’t around in 2005 or 2006, but my time spent at the iG forum was constructive and this is all high school drama, no one has any right to air the dirty laundry of another especially who you are. I think the people posting should take a look at themselves before passing judgment, it’s amazing to see how fickle and stupid people really are. “The World is your mirror”. All I will do is accept iG and Stephane as they are.. and wish them well, honor them in times like this as I do with immature people on this blog.
Namaste
anonymous
no time for speculators here
have you noticed that ALL the negative testimonials come from people who’ve actually spent time in real life with the guy?
http://www.thunderblob.com
Too bad about Stephane. He taught me how to make a chick squirt. I was wondering why I wasn’t receiving any ideagasm emails – didn’t buy enough products. He has so many useful insights and techniques. First heard him on the David DeAngelo interview. I always thought I heard a hint of narcissism in his voice.
Anyway, on the topic of orgasms, who else wants to see these YouTube videos on the A spot orgasm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oDXxNS1H-w (A spot orgasm)
In response to John
That I do..
It may or may not be true, but everyone has their downsides including David Brampton who I’ve witnessed first hand on the forum. I know what works for me.. I don’t have to meet him in person and if what was said is true on the show which I didn’t listen to because gossip doesn’t concern doesn’t factor in to MY own perceptions and filters.
BE YOUR OWN GURU!
I can’t say how many times I’ve heard it, it’s true.
LOL
do you even know who David Brampton is ? it’s only a pseudo
the guy who wrote the post above (exposing ideagasms) is psychonaut
confirms my idea that those who worship Steph the most are the one who never met him
the internet is such a great medium, anybody can start their own website and claim to be a guru
while those who buy their products have blind faith and want to be convinced that their guru is the real deal
Thundercat is a 900… according to his bathroom scale.
Hey Anonymous. Steph has always been on the way of get to give ,before iG ,his unfortunate past history is one of usury and as soon as that person has no longer any “worth to him” out you go. Rather than working on a compromise which is an enlightened form of life energy sharing consciousness,he goes into energy vampire mode and drains you dry,then dumps you in the ditch. There is no light in this. Maybe one day he will see it thru that this is not how you build loving relationships and enduring ones even thru dark times. He hasnt reached that chapter in his life yet. Being 24/7 hammered will accelerate his decline and life will teach him the hard way. I wish for his sake that he comes to his senses and profess enlightentment
without the use of drugs/alcohol.and do what he preaches in his plagiarism filled texts.. The universe is holding him accountable.
hey JC, read this… this is an actual REAL e-mail that Stephane sent to David Garmaise:
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Date: Jan 12, 2008 10:36 PM
I know a guy, Mike, who can calibrate things with astounding accuracy, and whenever he gets it right, my goosebumps kick in. If i don’t get goosebumps, we re-phrase it until we state the truth correctly. Then my goosebumps confirm it as the undeniable truth. So, we’re an unstoppable team.
Currently you calibrate at 196, which is the level of Pride, and just below integrity. This is also why your life is a literal hell on earth.
196 makes sense considering you lie quite a bit, not just about the Deida book, I know more about you than you realize.
I recently made the jump to 602, which is the first stages of true Enlightenment. I am completely un-identified from my mind and body, and could literally choose to walk out of this body and leave for good. I have no more human karma, as i have mastered the linear world of form.
I’ve decided to stay “in Stephane’s body” because if I left, Ghita, AmyJo, and Greta would fall, they are currently in the mid-500’s so they are close, but only because my light is holding them up. When they start falling I just “spank” and make them realize they will have to leave me, and then they wake up again and come back into the heart. So training girls at this level is quite simple.
I also have thousands of students world wide, it would be a shame to leave the all behind. It’s already been pre-decided, before i incarnated, that I would become Enlightened and stay in the body to serve humanity and help raise the levels.
Stephen batten (The nano-pill scientist)is at level 496, the level of genius, and right below Heart, which begins at 500. This is why he can talk a great game about spirituality, but doesn’t actually make anyone feel loved. He shows off his knowledge, and then acts as if nobody is “ready” to hear what he knows. He likes to think that he has “special access” to spiritual truth. But spiritual truth does not favor anyone, and God has no secrets.
Dorreen is at 570 (the Chakra affirmations come from her), the levelof the Saints – think mother theresa. This is why she is on a mission to save the world, and sacrifices ALL of her personal life in order to serve mankind.
Once she gets to level 600, she will then realize that she can “save the world” by forgetting her students for a while and working on herself.
If you think of the ocean, with boats on it. The ocean is the level of consciousness of all humanity, and the boats are the individual people.
Doreen is trying to raise the boats by lifting them up. This is very loving and noble of her, but certainly not the wisest way of helping mankind.
If instead she would raise the OCEAN, literally ALL of the boats will rise higher. This is a good metaphor to explain what happens when someone raises their consciousness.
At the end of this month, i will be going on a very deep meditation to advance furter, into the 700’s and beyond. In the level I’m at (602), meditation doesn’t feel like a chore anymore. I’m literally being pulled by a gravitational-like force to go deeper and deeper.
There will (hopefully) soon come a time when you are above 200, if you so choose it. You’ll have to work on being honest and integrous at all times, even when it hurts, and even when the ego tries to justify “small little white lies”, such as stealing our book and rationalizing it with things like “Stephane has money anyway, i need this more than he does” and things like that.
I will know when you’re above 200.
THEN I will be open to spending time with you. The more enlightened i become, the greater your chances of getting there too, just by virtue of being in a room with me.
David, I know the way out of hell.
It’s up to you to choose to be humble about it and view me as your Teacher. I have earned that level of respect and that title.
Until then, there won’t be much I can do for you, even though I want to help, you wouldn’t actually let me because of your pride getting in the way, as it always has since we’ve known each other.
By the way, RSD calibrates at 195, and Owen Cook calibrates at 310.
This is why he will say ignorant things on his blog such as, “I now meditate to sharpen my mind”. He isn’t yet capable of seeing that meditation is designed to help one transcend the mind, not sharpen it.
He lives in the world of the solar-plexus, which is why he seems like a great genius to you, yet he is very ignorant and “lost” in my eyes.
You are still in the second chakra, and he is in the third, so this is why he seems so advanced to you.
Steve P. and his buddy Hypnotica interestingly both calibrate at the exact same level as you, Pride, which is just below integrity and courage. They’re also in the second chakra, at the level of pride, manipulation, craving, desire, feeling denied and disappointed all the time with their lives.
Yes Steve P. has a lot of spiritual KNOWLEDGE, but he does not LIVE what he preaches. This is how he is able to screw ghita and I out of our deal with him and sell videos of ghita on the internet. His ego justifies it with, “I taught Steph everything he knows, so that punk fucking owes ME, I owe him nothing” and blah blah blah.. he is literally living in hell on earth.
Sie just made the jump to 540, unconditional love, and Ghita just jumped to 577, slightly above Doreen. I intend to take ghita to 600 just as soon as I understand how to talk her into it. I got to 602, but I had help from divinity, and had a few dark-night-of-the-souls recently in which my ego became “no longer ME” and it now feels like a cute little ignorant pet in my head, which always tries to give me naive advice on how to live my life.
At 602 everything changes. The world looks BEAUTIFUL, and it feels like I’m on mushrooms all day long. Colors are bright, etc. because now my third-eye is opening. I’m beginning to see in “both worlds” and I’m beginning to remember past lives, and in-between lives, even angels.
You and i had a deal that I would help you, and i will just as soon as i can see you’re above 200. until then there is too much pride and denial in you, so you will not hear what I’m saying.
So when you’re above 200 and finally ready to accept me as Teacher with a capitol “T”, rather than “my buddy Steph”, when you can be humble and appreciative and fully integrous, my door will be once again opened to you.
Sincerely,
Consciousness, formerly known as “Stephane”
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His third eye is opening? Steph should keep that info between him and his boyfriend.
John I find it hard to believe I’m “worshipping” such as a person when I’m clearly not the disenchanted of us both. Stephane is not perfect, neither is Thundercat, Gandhi and Jesus and as far I’m concerned no one is either, including you.
Every teacher has their faults and I fortunately skipped a bad period in which you subjected yourself to this and I understand your hurt feelings and general animosity or dislike of Steph( Maybe you held him to some gold standard?) but this has no effect on me. I have used the borrowed wisdom for the better and won’t hold him accountable for myself, because I am accountable for me.
Anyways it’s not my problem.. for you it maybe.
Message from Alex (who used to work for Steph)
“All the stuff about steph hitting her is true, I was there that night. We were at a club up in Montreal and Steph got completely tanked because Ghita was pissed at him. After he got thrown out of that club by the bouncers him and Ghita disappeared. We went back to their loft (we were staying there) and there were lights on but no one answered. An hour or two later they call us and we came back but Ghita was asleep.
The next day Ghita comes out with a black eye and tells us there was a fight at another bar. She seemed really off telling us the story. Steph said his hand got stepped on and he thought it might of been broken but he was playing pool ten minutes later. His knuckles were busted but never mentioned hitting any guys.
From then on out you could tell she was pissed at him. She hid it for obvious reasons.
The rest of the stuff about him is true. He is an alcoholic. He does a lot of drugs. He buys a whole lot of prostitutes. The guy makes a good chunk of change but has only a few dollars in his bank account because he pisses it all away.
He lives with no integrity and lies constantly about a lot of things. The girl he mentioned in the radio show he did with Berry didn’t get let go of. She was web developer that had him as a client. She and her boyfriend dropped him as a client, not the other way around. He lies to keep up the guise of integrity or whatever.
As well, he has a meditation product but didn’t meditate once when I was staying at their place. Never practices what he preaches.
Cheers”
“I worked for him during that time. I was handling his emails, doing phone consultations to students until I quit and went back. Me and my girlfriend were staying with them while we searched for an apartment in Montreal (we live in America).
I saw with my eyes, not from someone else, the amount of alcohol that he consumed on an almost daily basis. They ordered hookers out the phone book like it was domino’s.
No, I’m not going to do the show because I know the girl that is going on the show (I have met her and talked to her in the past). I don’t know all the dirt she has but I’m sure it’s a lot because she still talks to Ghita and got to see everything most people don’t.”
“I would have gone on if Amy Jo (steph’s ex) wasn’t going on. I don’t care if a guy is a prick but if someone has lacks that much integrity with people and has students following him in a cult like mentality that its a bad thing.
I had access to part of his website that kept track of how much he was making. It was a good bit but he always was struggling with money. First night up there he gave me 500$ as a bonus or whatever then asked for it back later on that night in a way. We went out to eat at nice restaurant, I paid for it. Then he asked for the rest back when we went to a strip club.”
“truth, 7. October 2008, 21:36 wrote:
Maybe i will show some unedited stuff of stephane asking Steve P to show him more.”
go ahead, lets see it
Holy…
Thank you so much guys.
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Haha Man I’ll need some time
to shed the steph bullshit
Thanks for all the lessons Stephane.
Now its time to move on.
Much Love,
L.
Okay Thundy this has ran its course, give us something new!!
Thks John for this; btw David has emailed me
,tks for your help on this.
It never ceases to amaze me how Stephane has managed this far to survive. I saw him first hand in Kelowna and for the week we were there,a really great place to be in the mountains ,enjoy the scenery ,the peace. WHat an occasion to find the inner self but on the side of mountain overlooking miles of green lush forest…hmmm. His only attraction wa the inside of a beer bottle. Anything that Steph talks about “numbers ” is only a self rating service to feed his overstimulated ego. He never grew up with any education or accomplishment/ to earn a living. His life was one of 24/7 welfare. He knows nothing of these numbers let alone is qualified to even discuss it.
His younger sister has been influenced so much by her big brother,only to find out he a simple crook,thief,conartist and within a very short time will be behind bars(the prison kind) for tax evasion,fraud and common assault./battery and sexual misconduct.. He knows his time is short here ,and the universe has held him accountable for his actions. In Quebec ,knowinlgy infecting someone with STD ,and hiding the fact, is a felony . Brit his sister ,who is a really great person, is totally disgusted by his spiritual antics and all the crap he does. So much for a role model from big brother.
I hope for everyone out there that they see thru hi b.s. smokscreen and realize true relationships are built on respect and love for one another.
Thanks so much Thundercat for this page
I was getting brainwashed by the guy too
Now that we all realize how full of shit Stephane really was, we can avoid wasting our time and money on his stupid teachings
Thank YOU !!
Hey Steph,
Why don’t you get a REAL job ?
Your mom.
P.S. I was right.
i spoke to thundercat last night.
he was literally sobbing down the phone.
he’s been very upset by the negative comments posted on his blog (calling him fat, ugly, useless, marketing hack, pathetic pua, plagariser, but to name a few)
he’s very deeply upset that his position as the community gossip site has fallen out of fashion and been usurped by barry kirkey’s radio show and his new forum. (www.revolution31.com/blog)
sales of his pure personality course have been close to zero.
not only that , afcadam has cut all business ties with thundercat, and no longer wants to be part of his podcast.
indeed he told me that he has being having suicidal thoughts as the production costs from pure personality and a dramatic fall in house prices have left him in negative equity.
thundercats mental and physical and financial health is very unstable right now.
so if you were thinking of posting any more negativity please understand this is driving tc insane…
It can’t be worse than Steph’s
fucker max,
For real?
After reading all this drama about stephane, i must say i am a bit disspointed and do not regard him as highly as i used to.
HOWEVER: I love what he teaches (in his products) and i have taken most of it to heart and practice it in my life and i don’t intend to stop, no matter how fucked up steph’s personal life is.
I love adding new messages for nothing,
Especially if it just makes the thread longer
In fact, i think I might add some lorem ipsum text in here for extra girth.
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I wish my cock was as long as this post…
Wow, this really blew me away. I really believed Steph was a good guy, and even after reading all the personal turmoil in his life. I’m still glad I found his teachings. Yes maybe he doesn’t practice what he teaches, but this doesn’t mean that what he teaches is flawed. So, personally, I would still recommend people review his product and come to their own conclusions before judging him. I know I’ve grown as a person using his products, and though I have found other teachers too. I still value his opinion, for he has lived(well hopefully) the experiences he discusses while I have not. So even if Stephane the person is not a perfect being, he still has life experiences which can help others.
Personally, I wish him all the best with any future endeavors, and hope these turbulent times lead him to greater understanding of life. Thundercat, I also hope things brighten up for you, remember it is during the dark days we learn the most about ourselves. So while life may seem to throwing shit in your face, see past it all and realize that it is just giving you another opportunity to grow
Best Wish
Matt
It just the Idea of getting you down on the trap of lies and scum.it comes from a fake, will end in a nothing but shit
I woke up to Stephane’s lies last year, at my girlfriend’s birthday party. We invited him and Ghita, and he brought his “secondary” and three really creepy acolytes. My girlfriend and I were sleeping with another girl, who was there at the party. We liked Stephane and Ghita. We had gone to some of their recording parties and loved them.
He left the birthday party early and I just thought he was bored. Then I read this blog post:
http://www.ideagasms.net/circles-elicit-very-emotional-responses-from-women/
In short: he thought I was trying to dominate him by putting a friendly hand on his shoulder (a gesture of trust and camaraderie, in my view), and thought my girlfriend and secondary were “leaking sexual energy” towards him.
Actually, they thought he looked like a filthy homeless guy that night.
The “compassion” and “unconditional love” he preaches were totally absent in that post, which reeked of disdain and pettiness.
We lost all respect for him, and never read his blog again.
Stephane has said some good things, but they were mostly stolen from guys like Eckhart Tolle, David Deida, and so on. He’s a clever hack, that’s all.
by the way, for MORE testimonials
go to
z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers
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After hearing the news of Ideagasms demise and thinking back to my experiences with him, it was a struggle to remain positive and think of something good to say about him. Then I realized I had lots of things to be thankful for.
He demonstrated exceedingly well that we can reframe ANYTHING
He instilled in us the value of integrity by talking the talk and then going out and doing something completely opposite, showing us exactly what NOT to do.
He showed us that actions speak louder than words, except when you use words to mask your actions.
He helped me to rediscover the joy that is CAPS-LOCKS!
He raised the bar for assholes everywhere, and re-invented the brandscape that is self-delusion.
Perhaps most importantly though, he showed the world that even the most low-life, deceiving scumbags can still draw in crowds of people who adore and worship them.
Pretending to be Stephane like the previous poster is sooo sweet
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his name is Stephane H-E-M-O-N
no “R”
Teaching something that you don’t LIVE is just spreading your own IGNORANCE.
http://www.modernmannow.com
If you teach people to ignore your teachings, then ignore your own teaching while teaching the exact opposite of how you’re supposed to live, which is actually the way you really live because you always do the opposite…
… then you will soon be king of bizzarro-world and the 4th dimention.
Dear Wise Exalted One,
Punch your girlfriend lately? I mean X girlfriend. Was it Ghita or that other one that starts with a “g” and ends with an “a”?
Get your GED yet?
Spread any herpes lately?
Talked to your auntie and uncle lately? They’re really concerned (see above).
Got any good coke? Or any suggestions for good hookers if I’m in the Montreal area? Let’s go on a booze bender together if I’m ever in the area. Maybe you can an approach a chick and show me how it’s done…or not (if that’s outside your comfort zone, I still have unconditional love for you…in a totally heterosexual sort of way).
As for me, I’m an expert PUA; I’ve nailed 7 chicks in the last 12 months…some of them not even fat pigs or white trash whores. Maybe **I** can teach you a thing or two? Sorry, that’s my “ego” speaking. I must be rooted in my root (Muladhara) chakra…or it that my power (Manipura)chakra? Aren’t you an expert on those areas and all they represent?
Anyway best wishes and I hope your cult doesn’t crumble,
Your pal,
A-For-Real-Not-Fake-Fucker-of-Women (one at a time, natch)
p.s.
Have you ascended yet?
guys
here’s an e-mail discussion between AmyJo and Stephane:
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This is also my letter to Stephane & Ghita telling them I was leaving:
(no subject)
Stephane and Ghita,
I wanted to e-mail to tell you that I’m going back to San Diego. There’s
not really much else to say, I don’t feel like I belong in the circle.
After Brandon I feel like I need to live in a world without bounds even if
that realm is of the ego.
Perhaps I’m just not ready to go into the 600’s, and I admit the
possibility of this being a mistake, but I can’t live trying not to make
any mistakes… trying to be careful to do everything right.
Thank you so much for everything you’ve done for me. I appreciate it more
then you will ever know.
I took $400 from under the pool table for a plane ticket and some extra
spending money for food. You guys owed me $100 cumulative (Ghita knows
about the $60, and I forgot what the $40 was for but it was right after I
got tattoo money from my mom). So I can pay you back for the $300.
As for my stuff, if you can it would be really awesome if you would ship
it to my mom’s house and we can pay for the postage, but if anything you
can toss it all or do anything you’d like with it.
I’m not leaving because I don’t like or love you guys anymore… It’s just
life is a day by day decision and today this is my decision and I accept
EVERY consequence that comes with it.
Thank you for accepting my decision and allowing me to have the freedom to
choose.
With love,
Amy Jo
This is Stephane’s response:
Subject: Amy Jo is falling down, falling down
* At this time, 7pm EST, AJ is at 497 and dropping. Cal. TRUE 1000
* The main reason AJ left was due to feeling un-sexy and un-desirable. Cal. TRUE 1000
* Getting tattoed below level 600 will cause the person to drop, TRUE 1000
* Getting tattoed at 600+ will NOT cause the person to drop because mind-body identification has been transcended, TRUE 1000
* When we leave the body after a lifetime, we meet with our soul family and watch a film on a screen of our lifetime, and we see the progress and the mistakes, and use this info to help plan out the next reincarnation, TRUE
* When AJ will review this lifetime, she will be told that leaving IG and circle was a huge mistake and that she failed to tackle her karma of being able to embody Yin characteristics such as sexiness, TRUE 1000
AmyJo you are entering hell and dropping like a rock.
You were in 541 yesterday, and i wanted to get you to 570 because this is the level of Sainthood where one places their own desires aside in order to help the world, like mother theresa. You would then easily forget your selfish desires and gladly sacrifice yourself for IG.
The reason you were in 500’s was because I held you up. Without me you’re going to continue to fall back down again.
It’s now 7:15 pm, you are now 492… this is some FAST dropping.
*AmyJo is in denial, TRUE 1000
Your ego is doing it’s very best to justify positionalities, to justify leaving. But the ego knows only falsehood.
* Inviting AmyJo to come back into the circle is for the highest good of everyone, TRUE 1000
AmyJo you were so close and I was going to take you to 600 in one week.
Last night I took Ghita to 577, and her light is INCREDIBLE.
Last night I also learned how to literally be attracted to 500 pound women, even sexually attracted. The ONE NIGHT you decided to go is when i was literally IN LOVE with you and wanting to devour you sexually.
In the 600’s, I can now drink wine and do drugs, and it is like watching the body/mind get drunk WHILE I REMAIN SOBER. It’s *amazing* to be in 600’s and i know exactly how to take you there.
What are you going to do? get a stupid “job” and live in the world of tattoo’s, smoking pot, and more and more ego?
Choosing hell over heaven is literally insane AmyJo. You’ve touched 541, so you know how to get back there.
You will regret this decision, I assure you of that. COME HOME, you belong in Montreal with us. Open your heart again and you’ll see.
We’re just going to wait for you to come back. Our door and our heart’s are open to you, always.
Sincerely,
Stephane & Ghitano and Gretano and thousands of IG students who are counting on your return. We all love you immensely.
(I won’t even tell anyone that you left, it’s nobodys business.)
(If you call me on the phone, i can probably talk you back into the 540’s again. last night I talked Ghita into 577!)
by the way:
“Ghita confirmed that Stephane had not gone public with this, but that Hawkin’s lawyer sent Stephane a “Cease and Desist” letter requesting that Stephane remove all references to Hawkins and his work from his website and to stop teaching it all together or else legal action would be taken. Hawkins said they Stephane was misrepresenting his work and to remove affiliation with his works.”
I heard from friend of mine who grew up with Stephane that these issues Stephane has all started because he was homosexual and was teased about it.
Now he’s living in complete denial, unsure of his identity.
Ghita is now on the Ex-IG Forum:
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Hello everyone wub.gif
I’ve been reading a few topic on here, old and new, I had made myself an account a while back but never really came on here to read anything because at that time I was still afraid..
I was afraid because he had threatened to ruin my reputation and essentially ‘destroy’ whatever ‘chance’ I ‘could’ have at a ‘new life’, if I ever spoke up and let the world know about what happened during the final throws of our relationship.
I spent time by myself for a while after leaving. It was pretty rough.
It was rough because in the beginning, for the first two years, I had the most wonderful times.. We would have people come by the house and help them out with their body language, simple style changes, then take them out and I would help them with socializing and getting over the fears of rejection…(those were some of the best times. I loved meeting people, some of the greatest memories I have was when I would meet people from everywhere and talk with them…
Then shit got fucked up.
I honestly don’t know how else to put it. Something snapped… maybe it was the ‘power’? The ‘fans’? Maybe it was him staying up way too late way too many nights and not getting enough exercise, perhaps his run-ins with spiritual practices that rendered him paranoid? Maybe it was me? Me attempting to be the best girlfriend and putting him before myself backfired and screwed him up?
Whatever it was, the man that I fell in love with, and the man that many of you admired, has long gone, and I don’t think that he will come back ever again.
One of the reasons I stuck around for so long was for a hope to see the glimmer behind his eyes again, thinking that some day it would come back. And sometimes it did… which kept me sticking around
But on a more sour note, another reason I stayed was because of guilt, the guilt I had for cheating on him in the very beginning. He used that guilt as a way to manipulate me into staying and doing things.
I have a lot to say on the subject of ‘what happened’, a lot of it is embarrassing.. for example, me cleaning up the wine glass he would smash on the ground in front of his friends (on purpose) while saying, “I don’t have to do anything! She will clean it for me!”
I did not speak up about it because somewhere down the line I had stopped talking to him because I knew that if I did, I would get an earful of how I was not at his level and I didn’t know what he knew and had to learn and would probably never get there and that I should be so thankful and how I was truly the most wonderful girlfriend because I understood and lived to serve him.
There are a lot of things I would like to tell everyone. Before I was afraid, but there is nothing to be afraid about if you’re letting people know exactly what happened and you’re baring it all.
Whatever reputation I had was gone once I made that squirt dvd, I can not teach in high schools, (not that I really ever wanted to), and it is far more important that people hear what I have to say and I get ’socially hanged’ than to hear that people have been sucked in and hurt, and I could have somehow helped them make a clearer and more conscience choice.
I want you all to hear about the true underbelly of the beast, the one I think you may want to know about.
It sucks, because so many things I believed in, and still do, but so much sort of gradually fell away from him and the reality changed… It was not as if from one day we were having serious intellectual loving humor filled conversations and then the next day I was all of a sudden thrown across the room…
So if you have any questions please ask me.. No one is writing but me. I do not have any one over my shoulder telling me to emit sentences or to ‘not post at all’, which was one of the reasons I never posted on the other forum.
Whatever I would write was either not good enough, or I was being truthful and well, ‘you’ didn’t have to know that, and I would then delete it because he would ask me too.
Thankfully there is no one here who can delete my posts apart from the admins, who I thank for being so strong and for making this forum alive with true good intentions.
I love you all, and wish I had those real stretchy arms from the dude from the fantastic 4 so that I could hug you all at once..
love,
Ghita
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers/index.php?showtopic=351
I guess I always gave Steph the benefit of the doubt until too many straws were starting to bend the camel’s back laugh.gif For me, and it seems most people, Stephane was exposed in a gradual process, rather than a sudden event.
I just WANTED to believe in his stories, they were just too cool. I fought against my common sense. Flying to outer space in other dimensions, fighting reptilians, all while you sleep and then your soul comes back in your body in the morning… in your comfy bed? Who wouldn’t want that? rofl.gif
I actually wanted to believe in all of that. I’ll admit that I really wanted that shit to be true…
ya forget Mystery Method and Real Social Dynamics it’s time we be that Modern Man Now not ideagasms either Modern Man Now
Posted by Ghita on the ex-ideagasmers forum:
Thank you everyone, I mean wow, I simply cannot thank you all enough for everything you all have done for me, I am feeling speechless, so I think I will take the easy route right now and answer some of your questions!
Q:So I’ve got a question. When did you first notice things weren’t quite right?
A:It was a gradual change.. there were many little things that happened… but most of it started after we had moved into our new place in the Plateau (an area in Montreal).
A lot of it was in regards to spirituality. It seems as though he could never find a balance. It was always extremes, either completely black or white, and then if there was too much ’spirituality’ then he would sort of break down and have to get drunk or something.
I remember one instance where he threw out a whole bunch of food because it was ‘unhealthy’, only to freak out and have to go to McDonalds after a week of eating ‘healthy food’.
It seems as though there can be no ‘grey’ zone for him, no sort of simple balance could be found…
He would watch Hawkins for days and days on end, staying awake for days and then write newsletters about it as though he now ‘knew’ and understood the meaning of life.
Just him staying awake for days, then sleeping for days on end… Urgh, there is so much to say about this… I will come back to it.
Q:1) What really happened with Veronika + the biker bitch stuff?
A:Yes. From what I can recall of that post, (If you could find it for me I would be able to dissect it and let you know what is real and what is not.)
Q:2) Did he really hit you?
A:Yes.
Q:3) What do you think of Greta?
A:I will come back to this one. (Lots to say, not enough time right now)
Q:4)How did you guys break up?
A:I will be covering this in person during an interview this week with Barry Kirkey
Q:5)Does Steph have genital warts?
A:Yes he does. He knowingly gave HPV to me, Amy Jo and obviously Greta.
Q:6) Did he send you any creepy emails like he sent AJ?
A:Yes he did.
Threatening and creepy would sum it up quite rightly. Something along the lines of, “You’re from hell and I am from Heaven and you’re a whore and no one will ever believe you when you speak up so don’t even bother. I will come out on top always and be so successful.”
Q:7) what do you think about spirituality?
A:I believe that it is about finding whatever balance works for you, I consider myself a spiritual person, I have my own mantras that work for me and I meditate. This is a sort of broad question. Could you clarify it please?
Q:8) Are you still into ‘circles’ ?
A:Haha, Amy Jo and I had a discussion about this the other day. I think we’ll made a YouTube video.. AJ what do you say?
Q:9) Are there any other Lies that Steph had told us that we should know about?
A:More than likely… Since withholding truth according to some is the same as lying…
I would ask that you give me some examples of things you may be uncertain about so that I can un-muddle any facts for you.
Q:So one thing I’m curious about, you mentioned when Stephane “snapped”. About when would you say you noticed this?
A:Hey J-Dubb! I always wanted to come and meet you in London while I was there. Do you still talk to Honru? Could you tell him HI for me? (thank you!)
I answered this question above, and another thing that it had to do with was money. He simply did not know his limits when it came to the use and misuse of cash. He also enjoyed drugs, and I believe that he has a type of mania, so mix those two together and you have a pretty lethal cocktail … add a bunch of followers to that and some sort of ‘celebrity status’… then add spirituality into the mix, you get the idea.
As for Miykael, has he told you how he fired him? How he left Costa Rica? How he was treated there? Woah dudes! I was not there, I didn’t witness, I had spent the month by myself in Montreal but I heard stories when I got to Costa Rica. Are they true is what I am wondering now.
As for how he could ruin my reputation, I’ll find the letter he wrote to me and post it up here, I think you will understand then, one part is because I had cheated on him the very beginning and he used that as a way… well you will see.
Q:I am wondering, did you ever really buy into a lot of the IG’s brand of so called ’spirituality?’ Or did you have your own thoughts and impulses on these matters?
A:You know the Chakra meditations? Well, I actually went to school for that. He never did… I was the one who brought those into the business because they worked on me. I still use some of the affirmations to this day, but I do not listen to the meditations.. Needless to say I think you understand why laugh.gif
I have my own thoughts about it, and on a side note: a lot of the stuff that he teaches he does not practice… what ‘brand’ are you talking about? Because there are a lot of things in there that I believe in, because I found them out on my own and believe they are good. It is a slightly complex questions, could you clarify please? (Thank you!)
Q:Did you or Stephane ever meditate, what you think about the 7 chakra programm is it good?
A:He RARELY meditated. You know that time where he took ten days off so that he would not speak, he didn’t do it. He lasted one day.
I meditated, and still do. I think the Chakra program is good, I recommend that you just get the script and do it yourself instead of listening to them, which is what I do.
I love grounding myself, it’s a wonderful sensation, and I truly think that those meditations helped me stay that long throughout the end of the relationship, opening my chakras and clearing my energy kept me sane.
Q:Hey Ghita! How’s life treating you now?
A:Amazing! Thank you for asking! I have a TON of things to talk about… you will seee!!! (YIPPEEE!)
Q:It’s great to have you here. I met you when you came to the UK last year. I was blown away and inspired by how fearless you are when approaching women and how you made everyone feel loved and appreciated. Thank you for being so open and honest about everything. Are you teaching pick up now? I saw the pictures with you and Steve P and Zan.
A:Thank you so much Seek! It feels so good to be honest about everything like this, a true heart opening experience, I do not have to check my words or think too much because I am not covering anything up.
Yes, I am teaching pick up and I love doing pickup! It seemed as though I was always at my best when I met people one on one and did sessions with them. Or as a group too, which is why I loved London, LA and Texas! (I loved meeting all of you!)
Q:Did his aunt really do the Past Life Readings?
A:Yes she did, woah there was so much stuff that happened with his aunt.. For him it was like ’spirituality gone wrong’, wow wow wow… SHeesh. Ask me about it later okay? It has some stuff to do with when he started snapping.
Hey Craig! Thank you Amy Jo for answering that on my behalf. IT IS TRUE!
I am going to Concordia University to study Psychology and Sociology. (I’m stoked!)
(If I don’t get into Psych(Major) and Socio (minor) it will be Socio (Major) and Psych (minor) and if not that then it will be Socio (Major) and Spanish (minor) I feel in love with Spanish when I went to Costa Rica, speaking of which SEAN AND LESLIE, YOU ARE AMAZING AND AMY JO AND I ARE SAVING MONEY TO COME TO VISIT YOU!
Michael, thank you.
Melina, I love you. Thank you and Jason for having Amy Jo and I over the other night. It was such a good feeling to see you both again and to be able to talk to you both as we did. hug.gif We have to see each other again, how about this coming week, what are you schedules like?
WHEW! I will answer the others shorty, right now I have to run, I am shooting a little video tonight with the woman from winggirlmethod.com.
Many kisses unto you all and so much respect and admiration for all of you have no idea
Ghita
hey personally i think stephane offers a lot of value despite these claims, id rather focus on that then some negativity. if you are looking for a pua coach in london then check out my link for the best affordable coaching available in the uk.
lololol….lolol
I’m thankful to Steph for leading me to Eckhart Tolle.
But apart from that, he is a crazy psycho and I’ll never take another word from him seriously. This is the first time I hear about those spiritual level numbers, such bullshit! His newsletters and products never mentioned that. Sometimes I could see some slight evidence about his being egoistical. Apparently he showed it quite well on the forums, I wonder how anybody remained with him after started considering himself the king of enlightenment. A true master never talks about how enlightened he is.
* PEOPLE are often unreasonable, irrational, and
self-centered. Forgive them anyway.
* If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish,
ulterior motives. Be kind anyway.
* If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful
friends and some genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.
* If you are honest and sincere, people may deceive you. Be
honest and sincere anyway.
* What you take years creating, others could destr0y
overnight. Create anyway.
* If you find serenity and joy, some may be jealous. Be
joyful anyway.
* The good you do today will often be forgotten. Do good
anyway.
* Give the best you have, and it will never be enough. Give
your best anyway.
* In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was
never between you and them anyway.
-Mother Theresa
Stephane is the kind of energy vampires !
there is no better way to explain it than that….
he often talks and warns people about energy vamps, but the truth is that he’s the biggest energy vamp there is !
just read the e-mails she wrote to AmyJo when she decided to leave… and soon we’ll have the e-mails he sent to Ghita.
Stephane is the king of energy vampires !
there is no better way to explain it than that….
he often talks and warns people about energy vamps, but the truth is that he’s the biggest energy vamp there is !
just read the e-mails she wrote to AmyJo when she decided to leave… and soon we’ll have the e-mails he sent to Ghita.
Stephane says that 85% of humans are non-integrous and liars…
that’s because HE lives on the level of non-integrity and lies
he talks so much about manipulation, because that’s exactly what he does…
I’m always astounded at how much of what stephane condemns are the things he does himself !
It’s as if he is projecting his own shadow on the world and on people
The world is your mirror, Stephane
Sounds like Stephane has possibly severe bipolar disorder with a nice streak of addictive personality and probably some Narcissistic Personality Disorder, if we’s gettin’ all speculatively clinical and sheeit :-p.
Too bad he turned out to be so off the deep end.
Ghita and AmyJo, I’m glad you guys are free and happy.
Remember brothers, as Bruce Lee said (paraphrasing): “Take that which is useful and discard the rest. Or, just cut to the fucking chase already, go to the source and buy Steve Piccus’s stuff.”
Nighty night!
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Since I`ve always followed the main mantras going in the forum like:
-being your own guru
-filter things through your own heart
-taking what you like and discarding the rest
…I really have very few complaints. If you don`t like the peppers on your pizza or the pickle on your burger, simply take them off.
Yeah but he used everybody else’s ingredients to make the pizza
my suggestion:
go to another pizzeria !
So does every spiritual teacher in history and the man`s sources, contrary to what many seem to believe, have always been shared openly.
How people are so blind as to miss this stuff, is truly beyond my comprehension.
hi all, i have a really bad new… about Greta’s father …
he has just committed suicide… yersterday, 1.Nov.2008
why? ask her…
R.I.P.
(Stephane wrote this on his blog)
This may come as a shock, but my companion Greta’s father
has just committed suicide. We were in Poland recently, visiting
her family (and basically giving Greta her chance to say goodbye),
and her parents were pretty closed-off to us. They insisted that
I was evil, and sought to convince Greta that this is “truth”.
You see, when Greta left Poland last year to join us in our Circle
relationship, it wasn’t exactly “accepted”. Quite the contrary.
Her friends and family did everything they could think of to
discourage her. The reasons Greta decided to come join us in
the Circle lifestyle were simply not understood, and insults
were hurled, such as “wh0re” and “he’s just a cult leader” and
“you’re stupid” and so on.
Greta and I recently decided to leave the Circle lifestyle behind,
since we feel we’ve learned all that we can from that kind of
relationship dynamic. But, Greta’s mother was already “so hurt”
and saying things like “how could you do this to me?” and other
typical “poor me” patterns of victim mentality.
We recently went to Poland, to see what could be done, but when
we met the parents for dinner, it was very obvious that they both
fell way below “the integrity line.” (When people fall below the
integrity line, there is not much that can be done, since almost
all of their thoughts, beliefs, and behaviors are actually based
on lies, or falsehood. And “one lie begets another”… you get the
idea. Perhaps nothing can be done for 85% of the humans walking the
earth today, other than prayer. They must be willing to let go of
pride (arrogance) and assume a position of radical humility in order
to “cross over” to “heaven” [truth].)
After that dinner, Greta’s mother “warned” us that she was about to
tell the father about our Circle. (Since she falls below integrity, she
had actually been hiding this fact from him all this time. If you can
imagine living with your own husband and witholding the truth to
such an extent, of course, “to protect him” nonetheless.)
Anyway, she told him.
And, he did not react well. He went right into a state of deep shame,
which is the lowest state of human consciousness known to man. You
can’t go any lower than shame.
Shame is a type of emotion where one feels they no longer wish to exist,
no longer wish to live and breathe (assuming the shame gets too intense).
They begin to feel like a “non-person”.
They’ve “lost face”, so to speak.
On Halloween, 2008, (Halloween is called “day of the dead” in Poland),
just as I was sending out my latest newsletter, Greta’s father,
a man named Jerzy Filipiuk chose to hang himself, in, of all places,
Greta’s childhood bedroom.
This seems to be an act of deep hatred.
Hatred of self, hatred of God, hatred of his wife, and hatred of his daughters,
perhaps.
The funeral itself seems to have been pre-planned, as it is on Greta’s sisters’
birthday, if you can imagine.
So, he chose Greta’s room to hang himself in, the sisters’ birthday for the funeral,
and his body was found by the mother (and her sister). This was his karmic
Destiny and Fate.
There was no suicide note.
So this is what happened, and now Greta and I are praying for his soul:
http://www.ideagasms.net/newsletter/admin/temp/newsletters/109/Dad.jpg
(Note that Greta played with the image and lightened it up a bit. Love
and Joy overcome shame, truth overcomes lies, and light overcomes
“darkness.” We’re both laughing hysterically as we post this particular
image.)
It has been said that those who commit suicide go to “hell”.
What that literally means is that those who commit suicide are rejecting God
so viscously, they are rejecting life itself so much that when they leave the
body, they actually end up IN HELL.
So what is “hell”?
It represents FALSEHOOD. It is a consciousness level that is so low, one
can barely even imagine the amount of pure-suffering that is enveloping him
as I type these words.
Now, hold on before we all get depressed
…I can’t help but suspect this guy had a sense of humor, even as he hung
himself. I’ve met him in person, and found him to have a type of “rebellious
child” energy in him, some kind of “deviousness” that I couldn’t help but
to LIKE about him.
He loved animals, and was a fisherman since… forever. He had this cat… and
the cat… she died a few days before his suicide. We suspect this had something
to do with it. She was crushed under a random car. This cat seemed to be his
only true friend, Greta once told me.
Now let’s talk about suicide and hell. I’ve spent some time studying religion
and spirituality.
Jesus was said to have died for our sins.
Sin means, “mistake.”
As a child I wondered, “What does that actually MEAN? He died for our
mistakes? What good did that actually do for us? Everyone I see is still
making these mistakes, including ME!”
Well, I’ve come to understand, in my own limited way, that Jesus made
the ultimate sacrifice; and as He died, He said, “Forgive them, Father,
for they know not what they do.”
He also reportedly said, “My Father, thou hast not forsaken me. From this
I have been spared.”
(In some bibles, He supposedly said, “Father, why hast thou forsaken me?”
BUT… Why would an Enlightened man choose to feel separate from God?
Perhaps the incongruence of that quotation is indicated by the fact
that a fully Enlightened Master who is united with God would unlikely feel
deserted by the very Source of that Realization within.)
Now, when an Enlightened man gives Himself over to mankind in this way,
AND asks for forgiveness on our behalf, this literally “wipes out” ALL of what
some have termed “evil” (falsehood).
Apparently, because of this ONE ACT, literally all of the souls on earth are
*guaranteed* to eventually get out of “hell” (low consciousness).
So, what we’re witnessing now can be said to be the mere “cleaning up”
of what Jesus started over 2000 years ago.
Literally, NO SOULS need to be “saved” anymore, it is already DONE.
With that in mind, I’m still sending you this email and asking for your prayers.
Why?
Because love cancels out lies and falsehood and “evil” and sin and mistakes.
ONE loving, forgiving, kind, understanding, compassionate thought actually
CANCELS OUT several thousand “lies” or “false” thoughts. Love is THAT
effective.
And as long as we’re choosing love, why not help Greta’s father get out of hell
a little bit QUICKER? Why not help Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and all
of the Enlightened Masters) finish what they started?
Specifically, I ask that you say the following prayer:
“Dear Lord God, I ask that you use my Heart to send Jerzy Filifiuk my love,
Your love, and Divine Grace to allow him to use this energy to ascend from
hell and come back Home to You. Please forgive him. Thy Will Be Done.”
(Thank you.)
SHAME…
It’s the emotion that leads to suicide, and it’s actually an intellectually
arrogant positionality. With shame, one is declaring, “I know more about
my own worth than God does!”
It’s a form of “playing God”, and as such, it is a sin (mistake).
We ALL experience shame from time to time, so perhaps Greta’s father has
been “sent” to us all to bring awareness to this mistake we’ve been committing.
Thy Will Be Done.
Stephane and Greta Hemon.
ideaGasms
PS – Yeah, we got married, not because we “believe” in marriage itself, but
because it’s a nice way to “keep” a polish woman in Canada, AND it’s
something that affords us a few “wordly” benefits. It’s also our way of declaring
to the world that we are now untouchable, ha!
PPS – We’re praying that Greta’s mother hits “rock bottom” and will be willing
to let go of her limiting beliefs about me, fly to Montreal, and come have a
conversation with us about getting out of hell. We know a thing or two about hell,
and we also know a thing or two about getting “out”, lol.
“Thank You For All Your Prayers”
Published by Stephane on Sunday, November 2, 2008
I’m removing this post about Greta’s father having committed suicide, as we feel it has served it’s purpose. So thank you for your prayers.
Now, I’d like to make a few comments:
We received a ton of email from well-meaning people wrongfully assuming that Greta must be really angry, upset, hurting, suffering, having difficulty forgiving her father, and so on. This comes from the belief that “death” is a possibility, and when “death” occurs, one should grieve and suffer as a way of “proving” one’s love for the deceased. However, I live with Greta and I can attest to the fact that no such emotions are present.
When she heard the news, her first response was a bit of shock and tears, soon followed by the desire to understand what he must have been thinking and feeling in order to actually hang himself. The desire to UNDERSTAND HIM is what precludes suffering and keeps her in a state of Compassion. (She went into empathy with him, and not sympathy. She then cried for a while longer, as she felt his pain. She also commented that this experience has helped her to release some of the remaining unconscious shame within herself. Thus, she sees that her father has truly given her a gift. Every experience we have can be used to either lower us (into victimhood) or propel us to higher consciousness/awareness. Greta chose to ascend a little higher. It’s the best thing she can do for her father.)
At first glance this may be difficult to understand – Is Greta actually in a state of Joy, Compassion? Yes, she is. She loves her father and is merely allowing him to choose his own destiny. And in the end, every soul returns Home to God if and when they choose to do so (as is our present-day understanding).
The best way to help people out of “hell” is by NOT joining them there. Again, most people wrongfully assume that they can only show their love by choosing to suffer, but with the understanding that there is no “death” (life merely changes form) suffering and grief are not possible.
Another comment I got had to do with people being upset that I said we hope Greta’s mother will have a chance to hit “rock bottom.”
At first glance, we can understand how this may seem as though we wish her mother “ill will”, but that is untrue. The experience of hitting “rock bottom” is quite often an uplifting experience that many people need to go through. Hitting “rock bottom” is said to assist people in waking up.
Greta has asked me to thank you all for your prayers. (She doesn’t post online because she wishes to have a 100% private life, free from all distractions from her spiritual path.) She has asked me to tell you all that she is not a “cold hearted” person; she reacted with shock and felt the emotions one feels when they lose a father, but, this was quickly followed by the desire to understand how he must have felt, which led her to a state of Compassion.
With the understanding that all souls return Home to God in the end, she now feels Joy. She also felt the feelings of relief that her father experienced as he left the body, and all of the suffering that physicality entails. This gives him the opportunity to live a new life, in a new body, with new choices he can now make.
This also gives an opportunity to Greta’s family (and especially her mother) to see that this was actually a gift that he gave them, for it can be seen as an opportunity to use life’s experiences in a different way, as this gives everyone an opportunity to make a choice between sympathy (victimhood) and empathy (understanding and compassion) and Love for one’s Self (and therefore for others).
Blessings,
Stephane (with Greta sitting here and helping me write this text).
ideaGasms
No you arrogant cocksucker, it’s YOU who should be ashamed, and who represents the lowest forms of human consciousness: spiritual pride and (your own twisted version of) religious fundamentalism, among others. You can shove your talk of higher conscioussness and “enlightment” up your ass. You claim to know the higher chakras, but by your despicable behavior you clearly are motivated by the lower ones.
You will have to answer to the Laws of Karma…you sorry sack of shit. Fuck you with your cultish lies and deluded absolutism.
See ya (wouldn’t wanna be ya),
A former admirer (until the veil was lifted)
Tucson Arizona
Meant to write “enlightenment”…you know, that term usually invoked by ego-maniacs who claim to be “beyond the ego.”
Also, I meant to write “consciousness” (guess my indignation has overridden my usually punctilious accuracy in spelling)…you know, that universal omnipresent field of awareness which is not elevated by things like, you know: alcoholism, drug addiction, blaming the victim, moral turpitude, deliberately spreading HPV, etc.
That’s it Stephane,you have now sunk to below what I think was unthinkable. Your arrogance has caused the death of a father . Being a father of four children,I can relate that when a father sees his children in the darkness you have submitted his daughter,subject to abuse and a life of debauchery and perpetual contempt of the world around her,his heart is broken intwo.You have now sunk to the darkest of the dark. Chakra is root of life and true chakra is the preservation of life and to make it grow. His blood is on your hands. You will be held accountable for your total disregard of true chakra mentorship. The dark side has you in its grip and we are now seeingthe fruit of your efforts. You are, day by day ,being exposed for the fraud that you are and you’re fate has been sealed by the universe . Take more drugs and booze ,it works for you ,to dull the pain of knowingthe facthat you are biggest loser and the ultimate example of a human and spiritual failure for all of us to see. Thru you we will prove ,without a doubt, from a spiritual sense of exactly WHAT NOT TO DO……
Thank God Ghita has escaped your house of cards,however I feel she will suffer from the herpes and the reaction it will do to trigger a rejection of her donated kidney.
Your lifestyle is no longer “trippin” ,it is now criminal in a spirtual sense.. I wouldnt be in a rush to answer your door anytime soon. The darkest of the dark has been awoken and he knows where you live. Goodbye …you will not be missed.
They’re gonna gitchew…they’re gonna gitchew…they’re gonna gitchew…sucker!!
stephane never said he was enlightened. he never said he was a guru. he said be your own guru.
He wouldn’t have to say it to convey the message.
I really think he started out really well. He had the love thing going, was on the right track. And, as is often the case, he got sucked into the “above it all” attitude that comes with many a “lightworker” (a term I’ve come to loathe, btw). When a lightworker gets stuck in pride, a very steep and painful fall from grace often blindsides them.
Happened to L. Ron Hubbard. Can happen to anybody into spiritual practices -ESPECIALLY those into spiritual practices or hypnosis (e.g. Ross Jeffries).
I was a former admirer myself and made the “wise exalted one” and “arrogant cocksucker” comments above…Stephane has some very useful concepts: squirting orgasms (haven’t been able to achieve that yet with any of my women, but his method of fingering the G spot while pressing her pelvic bone has worked wonders); the idea of judging a woman as a “10″ based not just on her looks but also on her heart chakra energy; his “my way or the highway” yang attitude; etc.
What’s done him in has been spiritual pride, and dabbling with forces beyond his ken…it really evokes pity and horror…like a Greek tragedy.
So let’s keep the baby (his handful of terrifically useful concepts), and throw out the bathwater (the man himself and his shitty behavior and shitty karma)…
Ghita and AmyJo on Barry Kirkey:
http://www.revolution31.com/blog/2008-11-05%5BTheBarryKirkeyRadioShow-Episode103%5D.mp3
Wow.
This forum has turned over time and time again the views of many for a search of truth.
I am a newcomer, so forgive me on that note. I have read every line in this forum.
Stephane, if you happen to read this note, I’ll believe in miracles:
Truth is absolute. No one has a monopoly on it. You, nor I, nor anyone else on Earth, owns the truth. It appears that by thinking of yourself as a “doorway to truth”, you have glorified your own ego. Such will be your undoing.
You can solve any of your problems with one of five things:
You can kill yourself.
You can kill the people causing your problems.
You can run away via booze/drugs.
You can run away geographically.
The fifth thing you can do is make changes.
I counsel you to do this. You think you are pulling the wool over our eyes, but you stick your ass in the air so blatantly, it’s a wonder that you think you’ve gained anything.
I think your in over your head, and the sooner you get right with yourself and take a break from the booze and sex for a short time, the error of your ways will become self-evident.
You said it yourself: the world is your mirror. Have YOU looked in the mirror, Stephane? The reflection is pretty clear from here.
I sincerely hope you recover from what I can only call a disease of power and blindness.
-PH
Stephane says his family is crazy
I must say, after reading JC’s comment… that I can understand why he says that
maybe JC takes things too far… maybe he really thinks stephane is the devil, and he sees anything that happens through that light, as if it were always stephane’s fault
and that pushes Stephane to become paranoid and think that everybody is like that
Inner Life ,I appreciate the comment you have made and respect your entitlement to the opinion you expressed.
Stephane is 32 years old…responsible for his choices ,like we all are. He’s a 32 year playing the heart strings of younger 20 y.olds. The entire family.throughout his life has alaways been there sacrfiicng for him with a private school which he rejected;we were there at every turn when he went to trade school since the high school scene was not for him. Paid for apparatment and furnishings and setting him up to be on his own in his early twenties.We accepted our responsibilty as a family to help him. He never finished the plan that he chose,we were just there to support him in his decision of education.
My wife and his grandmother being his greatest believers in him ,thought that he would choose a life of light and love.
3years ago we paid for Ghita,Step and there then business manager ,the flight to a spirtual conference in Kelowna,it was here that we found his life was not at all spiritual .
It was how many cd.s did I sell so that I have beer money for tonite .It as this time we recognized him as a user of people to make others do his bidding. Stephane is not the devil. He is very sadly misguided individual who has rejected postive spiritual guidance and has found the dark side to be easier to work with.. the dark side was only to happy to oblige. when you sell yourself out like this. It is very difficult to come back. Drugs and booze and various other addictions are hard to break. Any psyhcologist sees this pattern daily. The ego needs strengthening daily in his case,he has given his ego psychie a form, a form that that he prays to daily in his lifestyle. You cannot have chakras,light and integrity and with drugs/drinking which disrespects the body. Your body is a temple,keep it clean ,take careof it and it will be the basis of a very positive love and light filled life on this earth.
Till this very day,as odd as it may seem ,we (my wife.his aunt and granmother)would wish Steph to realize the dark side and have offered our assistance to his rehabilitation(we asked again this week) . I think he’s goingto have to hit the bottom real hard before he realizes,in how much spiritual trouble he is relly in.. inthe mean while.. for him,life is a party.
As we speak ,this week Brit his younger sister had her heart broken by Steph,he basically told her that he was vibrating too high for her and that should forget about him and never to talk to him again,she was too low for him… If thats not ego,what is?? to your own sister. …yet she still loves him..How sad..
We are not a crazy family..on the contrary ,a loving one , who needs to see Steph come back to the light. If we’re crazy in wanting a human being to quit self-destructing himself,then we’re gulity as charged.
tks for reading.
To those who thinks Stephan’s family is crazy:
I am one of the cosuins (and yes, J.C’s daughter) and i am sad to say, i will never admit outloud I am related to him. He bases his assumptions on how many people are willing to follow the stupidy that comes out of his mouth. hence the reason he disbans you if you want to dis agree with him. His family has known him longer and unfortunatly, better than anyone who believes in what he is saying. We as a family knows he is liar from the bottom of his heart, just look at his “educated” background. He couldn’t finish high school, took 1 course and couldn’t even finish it on chakras. so for him to start telling people the level he is on compared to others, is completly false. His family actually fears, not for him, but for those who waste their time, money and energy on the biggest fake on this earth.
In the beginning his family (especially his “crazy” aunt and grandmother) were the ones who supported him, then he turns his back on those who helped him. why? Because he started telling lies to people to make money, and we were the only ones who could tell people the truth of his craziness, so it was easier to say that we just disappeared. Why didn’t anyone question this? because if you did, you got kicked out of his little group. It’s unfortunate we can’t tell people enough to beware of him, and stay as far from him as possible!
And his skills as a pick up artist? This is the same guy who used to get beat up by girls, and from guys when he even looked at girls! This may be the reason he has such low respect for women (he was never able to impress anyone) and feels like he needs to attack them and get back at them for doing what they did to him. Sure the guy is in his early 30’s now, but in a few years who wants to take sex advice from from a 40 year old walking veneral disease? because unfortunatly thats is what he is doing now. He is having sex unprotected while he has STD’s, im not sure if he relaizes, but that is actually a federal offense that can you send you to prison, if your “victims” are unware….this is only the tip of the iceberg as to why his family is so embaressed.
I can’t even begin to tell people what my parents have done for this boy (and yes, he is still a boy..not even close to a man) however he used them like an atm machine, and even attacked my brother (who was 12 years old when he was 20 something!!) because my parents refused to let him get away with murder. i feel awful for Stephane because when this all ends (which unfortunaly might be when he meets the wrong person, and they want to teach him a lesson) he has hurt his supportive family so badly, there will be no one left for him to turn too. I will agree with some of the other blogs…the devil himself is a disgusting person but Stephane is worse.
I hope people will read this and relize that if his family knows the kind of person he is deep down, and still can’t believe how destructive he is being to others, please take a hint, and run in the other direction as fast as your good heart can go.
Please be aware.
what happened between stephane and your little brother ?
Stephane, if you’re reading this… Can’t you see the irony ??
You based your whole career on bashing people. You even admitted “I built my whole company amogging the community guys” learning from TD, Mystery, David D, SteveP, David X, Doreen, and then bashing the shit out of them… (talk about biting the hand that feeds)
and then you’re all scared and confused when the pendulum swings back !!
maybe you just need to accept that this is exactly what you deserve, that is your karma… the joke is on you my man…
we can’t help but laugh at what is happening
your main argument was that you come from “Love” and those other PUA gurus are using women as masturbation tools…
YOU come from LOVE ???
NO!!!!
gimme a break
you can’t be that manipulative and pretend to be coming from LOVE !
too bad “Love” isn’t an actual physical person, they would send you a “cease and desist” letter for misrepresenting their work and using their name
Stephan is a lovely man who always puts a smile on my face. He has a lot of love to give to the world and I truly have respect for anyone willing to follow his passion like Steph does. I will always be greatfull for the inspiration he has been on for my own growth in becoming a more honest and genuine man. And although things might seem rough at times, all is truly well and love is always on our side, cheering us on.
god bless him and all the people reading this.
Steph offers great advice, in the end…
the huggy bears also offer great advice !
Im glad you feel he offers great advice, and maybe he actually does! The problem is that the advice doens’t belong to him. Everything he says or “teaches” has actualy come from someone else, its all plagarized. For those who like that path, please feel free and continue on it, but Please get it from a real teacher and not a fake like Stephan
yeah like the book “Sex” by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh…damn good but tough to find book on tantric sex.
Jasmine is right
I don’t think he ever gave good relationship advise. He taught men how to treat women submissively and brain wash them into believing it was a good thing.There are laws already on the books that protect women from the kind of actions Steph was a proponent of. If he believes this is the only way to have a good relationship he can go to an other country in which these beliefs are still upheld today and sell his product there. But not here, not in the free world because we as a society know better.
I agree Deoxy, smart women can smell his bull from a mile away. The problem is the women who think they need love in thay way, and are willing to follow him. Don’t get me wrong, the biggest problem is Steph, but something needs to be done about these girls to show them that what they are doing is damaging to themselves!
Yeah, if he’s such a hot-shot, let’s see him sarge and seduce some intelligent, savvy women his own age…instead of shooting fish in a barrel (these poor starry-eyed groupies who, for a while at least, seem so bewitched by his guiles and sinister charms).
Yeah and do it not over the internet like he did with Greta, but in real life in person. Real health independent strong women who are not naive and drunk, that is a real challenge. They see right through him, he complains about it in his newsletter when he says anyone over the age of 30 is disgusted with him but he says it is because they are jealous! Delusional.
Deoxyribose and Jasmine must be the same person… totally on the same page.
Have a great day all of you and let the healing begin and really get on with our lives.
And what did you do to today to make this world a better place?
just my 2 cents!!
The commission to make the world a better place sometimes requires us to take the time to speak out against power-mad egomaniacs like the aforementioned sordid Canuck…
Other evil shit-head cultists include the Hare Krishnas, Sai Baba, Scientology etc. etc. Love and light is great, but we need to banish the demons in our midst as well….then get right back to taking positive action.
My 2 cents!!
I love you guys
Ghita & Amy Jo are predators posing as housepets.
stay away from those two.
ideagasms.net…. Stephane… what a poor sick and suffering soul out there =(. My prayers go out to you and your family.
First glance of ideagasms.net and the Girlfriend Training Program (which is mysteriously discontinued or under another name.. hmmm i wonder why!!) made my vagal nerve freak out causing regurgitation and severe pukage.
I could sense the misogynistic tone and female enslavement from a mile away (and no, I am not a man-hating women nor do I think I am writing this out of anger which could stereotype me as a feminist).
Forget misogyny, I sense a ego maniac and marketing/opportunist every time the site asks for your email address and credit card.
I am praying for Stephane Hemon’s spiritual recovery and ethical growth. Whatever other humans/entities did such harm to Stephane in this corporeal life is no excuse for the perpetuation of it… and to think he makes money of preying on male sexual insecurities and perhaps spiritual curiosities.
While the knowledge of yin-yang balancing have been around for so long… and the very very delicate care needed when dealing with balancing chakras, this is a disgrace to eastern principles and knowledge.
I have no PhD on eastern concepts/theology/spirituality nor do I claim to be a guru (especially because I think we heal ourselves ultimately) Ideagasms totally abuses and twists the concepts of eastern teachings from Hindi vedas, TCM, Taoism etc. I admit, I have glanced at the notions of chakras and nadis once or twice because I am a neuroscientist and their correlation to nerve ganglia in the spinal cord is fascinating.
Anyone who is not vulnerable to warped vision understands on a practical level how dangerous the GTP is, no matter if you’re being politically correct or not.
Also, the GTP might touch on BDSM and/or S&M prinicples… but remember all of them are employed between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS – WHICH IS NOT AN ABUSE OF POWER THROUGH MANIPULATIVE MIND TRICKS.
I mean…c’mon…what the hell is being a lesbian with one exception. This concept is so disturbing its comical.
If you are a lesbian, that’s who you are… the inherent definition doesn’t allow for one exception and to think you can forever change someone into something they are not only spells disaster in the long run.
If a woman is straight, why force bi-sexuality? The GTP does not encourage women who are confused to explore their sexuality, rather it forces them to become what they are not, to not have opinions, to not even as my ex-boyfriend told me once “breathe without my permission”
So let me privy you to my story and share my concern for men and women who are considering paying an unadulterated amount of money to ideagasms.
My ex-boyfriend had been secretly using stephane’s notion of chakra’s and “loving from an open heart” (what a misnomer) to TRY manipulate my mind to be enslaved.
He was always secretive about “energy healing modalities” he employed in his life and when times got desperate (as in I left him because he used violence on me) he finally told me about Stephane’s ideagasms, claiming Stephane to be a licensed therapist and requesting I talk to Stephane himself over the phone.
Upon doing research on ideagasms and this supposedly certified stephane (credentials don’t really matter to me by the way, LCSW, PhD, MD, ND, whatever…)
… one look at ideagasms.net alerted my intuition in that this guy is a purely insecure opportunistic misogynist.
While stephane is not responsible for the domestic violence of my exboyfriend, it is a shame there are “GTPs” out there to REINFORCE the rather insecure spiritual man (my ex boyfriend) I loved so dearly into controlling, obsessive ways and ultimately laying his hand in an inappropriate way to someone he loves.
I pray for my exboyfriend’s and stephane’s recovery. I pray for my own recovery from co-dependency to have allowed some of the warning signs to pass by without my efforts.
Stephane’s ideagasms is a threat for long-term happiness, but like I believe Jasmine said – the real issue comes from within the individual…
I am not discrediting the love and wonderful times (and climaxes) I had with my boyfriend, unfortunately it is not enough to hold through abusive behavior (emotional, spiritual, mental and physical).
ideagasms.net attracts men like my boyfriend who have endured a considerable amount of abuse through their life that has led to such insecurity that no ego boosting or amount of force can cure… it’ll only lead them to something like jail, which my ex-boyfriend will go to when the order for protection papers are served =(
As for women,
I was (and still might be) particularly vulnerable and impressionable when i got together with him. I am NOT a victim, and I am working to regain my self-trust and person back in every sense (social security etc). It is a nightmare to go through domestic violence and trust your gut when warning signs flare!!!!
Let us realize that we are all here to help each other to reach the best, and that does not mean pushing other’s into bondage and slavery like Stephane suggests. It is the way shaolin masters use their energy intuition to finding weakness in their opponents, and strike there. Why can’t we heal where there is weakness, or rather make weaknesses strong instead of preying on them, or preying on impressionable women?
I believe we are strong for seeking help from another – yet they can only help us to get a place where we ultimately heal ourselves.. much like using herbs, the herbs only help your body to temporary homeostasis as to rehabilitate the body’s own self healing power.
I deeply pray for healing and reconciliation.
When Stephane is talking about loving from an open heart, calling it a misnomer is a great understatement.
Hurt comes in many forms and I am very happy to see that Disappointed understands the theory behind the abuse. Many times in my life I have lot of women always going in and out of this type of relationship. One aquaintance has 4 children with four different husbands.In her early years she was abused and for some reason(i’m not a psych) continued the abuse well thru her 20’s and 30’s ( I shake my head onthis one) She now is profesionally counselled and has made her motto to be independent at all costs. She spent her early years looking for her hero. She grasped at many straws only to come up short every time. After the counselling, out came the hero..herself. Steph’s preys on the weak and sells hope( like many religions). We have met many of his students when we were in Kelowna together. He purposely ignored them,so as to project himslef so cool you couldn’t get close. So, So very sad..This is part of the NPD sickness scenario.
Luckliy my wife was there to interact with them nd the common thread ,is they we’re the sweetest young guys you could ask for,they we’re just so nervous around women,one fellow was horrifically shy ,he would cancel the date just in case he might say something wrong and risk offendingthe girl..
Disappointed .you are yourself your own hero. Project to the universe of your love of life and keep your head clear ofthe distractions.(i.e. don’t sweat the small stuff). I have built a very successful business projecting this positive energy so as to let the universe return it to me amplified. If I didnt have this inner peace ,I think I would not have four loving kids who all talk together and interact wonderfully with my wife and I . I am blessed to have this, and I would wish you the same.!
Bottom line you are what you project..
Good luck !!
hey guys !
It takes two to lie: one person to tell the lie, and another to hear it !
Dear Stephane Hemon,
you’re totally RIGHT!
my abusive boyfriend manipulated the truth to manipulate me, and i heard it and was manipulated.
now that i am thinking straight… i wont hear it let it be heard anymore – and thus no more manipulation, too bad my door not to mention my femur is broken and i’ll have a limp for life.
I am sad to hear of another person who has suffered domestic abuse which was most likely influenced by the GTP.
The GTP only enhanced my ex-boyfriends denial of his ‘yelling-which-turned into a hitting problem’
Stephane, I Hope you can stick to RE-selling (you did not come up with these things on your own!) techniques for squirting orgasms … for women AND men!
please stop preying on insecure guys and selling the mind game manipulative in the name of chakra balancing bull …
very very dangerous game you are playing when you screw around with energy…
you’ll never be satisfied in the long run with what you are looking for…
money and girls and drugs and sex only go so far…
YOU DO NOT HAVE ULTIMATE CONTROL!
well who am i kidding i’m trying to preach to a madman on drugs. if it wont help stephane, i hope this wont fall on deaf ears… more so those men who are looking to purchase this thing… or the girl who is a GTP follower…
the relationships dont last…. but jail records and broken bones do.
another abuse survivor
i think hes awsome, he’s helped me see the world in a new and differnet way, he doesn’t ‘owe’ me anything either, he’s always been amazing nice with me, paying for drinks and dinner, giving me lasting advice on girlfriends that i will never forget, and basicly showed me alot of stuff on how to be a man. That is priceless to me, he never asked for a damn thing from me either, he just gave, that i will never forget in my life, thank you stef.
u guys gotta stop looking for god in him or whoever else, its like looking for god through Eckhart Tolle or somthing , its cute but thats not what there here for, they’re human, they do thier best to serve us. Osho wasn’t perfect, but at the end of the day we remeber the best bits of him, his humor and all the giving.
anyway peace too you guys, find some love man, where does negative help anyone ?
oh boy!
1) Disapointed: congrats to you, and you should be incredible proud of youself! You are truly an amazing person and should walk with your head held high! good luck with everything!!!
2) J.C: Go Papa Go! look at you being right lol!
3) Stephane: Can you please change your last name? I am completly embaressed to share a name with you, also your little line about liars is completly true! it does take one to know one huh? Your the one who’s spitting them out, and it’s your followers whoa re listening to them.
4) Olv: Please try arguing with him, and proving he is wrong. then you will see he is not so “nice”, try forming your own opinion that doesn’t agree with his, lol than you will see what everyone is talking about. Also, who said they were looking for God in him? Give me a break, thats definitly the LAST place i look.
Come back to us, when your not feeding his retarded ego, then you will see the “light”
They’re gonna gitchew…they’re gonna gitchew…they’re gonna gitchew.
all of you guys have to stop expressing your immense pain bodies on here, the amount of meticulous fault finding is out of control !
Go mediate, go fix that broken heart , i feel ya, i been there man, i had teachers in collage that i loved/hated, but i transended it, so thiers a light outta this.
Its that old teacher/student dynamic gone ape shit…
Put it this way, i dig Echhart Tolle, but if he invited me to learn from him from his home in British Columbia, i wouldn’t compromise my life and values to run off to a guru to be ‘fixed’ or healed. If i did, i would probly be inevitably disappointed because not god lives up to the students expectations, ever, it only breeds resentment and painbody spills such as the 5+ pages of tabloid-like exploitation of IG, you guys are worse the the British press !
What did u people expect upon meeting him ? all your pariental hurt and pain would be swept away by stephane, you’d find the love of your life and all loneliness and past rejection would vanish in thin air ? Thats a heavy burden for anyone to carry.
and as for the plagiarism stuff, who cares !!
Alot of that info wouldn’t be consumed by the hoardes of hungry lonely men if it wasn’t for him sharing it, how many lost souls discover Hawkins, Deida, 7-habits, 5DC though IG ?
How many lonley IG nerds really had thier worlds opend up by this info, learning self respect , learning to find thier purpose on this planet, one that is bigger than thier miserable ego’s ? FUCKING THOUSENDS.
Think bigger then yourselves people, its not about you, or him, or your fucked up student/teacher dynamic, its bigger.
go read Power vs Force, its your homework !
(and go easy on the porn guys, its what brot you here in the first place…)
( maybe i can be your NEXT god/guru/teacher/Dad/Motherly figure ??? )
peace yo.
to ‘another abuse survivor’
lets blame IG for global warming and the market crash and how the recent declining of polar bears…
If you chose a bf who beats you, you chose it honey, not IG, if he bought the gtp thats rad, but nowhere in the gtp does it say to hit people, that his doing and your choice really. Maybe this man of yours was having a 3rd stage moment, and performed this ‘violence’ for reasons outside of you or him for that matter,rather it was for the good of existance ?
anyway ‘abuse girl’ , keep the comments rollin, Days Of Our Lives is getting boring this season …
(also my mom used to yell at me when i took cookies before dinner, can i blame it on GTP ? )
Jasmine , i dont have my own opinion, my brain and mind are merely fragments of The Power of Now and Way of the Superior Man, so thiers not much to argue about with him.
But i won’t go back to ‘us’ and form some collective painbody, no thanks, the world is dark enought without having to be part of your ridicilous witch hunt.
where does this all lead ? Really, what satisfaction and gratification does your witch hunt bring you ? I suppose it call comes down to repairing old hurt and rejection, anyway IG is bigger than all of you and your cute fault finding / incongruency festivals. So no, i won’t be joining when he hurts my ego by not living up to my dad requirments.
peace
IG is bigger ?
LOL
(what a piece of crap)
have you ever been to his place on Papineau street? “Nobody is a prophet in their own country” is SO true !! I see that his fanbase is in England, not in Montreal…
also, anybody here who took the time to write and spoke about “pain-body”, just know that you cannot REACT against pain-body, if you’re not in pain-body yourself
Maybe we can organize a painbody session, kinda like AA, we can call it Painbody Anonymous, PA ? Or Stephane-oholic anonymous (SA) , and we can discuss our hero worship syndromes and stephane approval addictions. Its part of your natural development for your ‘god’ to die, its a pain full process, then you’ll find a new God, and then you can crucify him too, and so forth till you choose to transcend it, or stay addicted to the hights and lows of it, cause its the closest thing you get to action in your life outside of Xbox360 / world of warcraft.
so somebody, go and make a facebook group for that, lets take responsibility for our happiness ( Dr.Phil says it , and hes my god )
seriously, lets all hold hands and cry, cry our hearts off.
4 real y’all.
lol
I realized Stephane was full of shit back in 2006
so it’s nothing new MARK
what’s astonishing is the amount of denial in people who still want to belive that “yeah, Stephane did all those things, BUT….” and then they go and rationalize his behavior
being from Montreal, I never saw Stephane as a GOD
trust me !
all the time I was on the IG forum, I wondered how long it would take for me to start speaking my truth to people
but I didn’t want to say anything yet, because nobody would’ve believed me
only when shit really started to hit the fan that I could start telling all those old stories of mine and people would believe me
let’s face it:
IG was crap and you weren’t able to speak your mind freely without being labeled all kind of convenient reframes by Stephane’s ideology: vamp, low-vibing, etc.
let’s face it:
Stephane has done much more damage to the world than people like Mystery, TD, or David D… although he is masquerading as the unconditional love guru
is it only me or is am i going insane about what a hell is going on in here?
I am new to ideagasm, and i was lucky enough to buy IGP-stuff just before he shutt down all of his old products. Anyways his stuff really does work. Who is in denial of that? I meditate, understand plarities, and keeping my selfrespect worthy. This is common knowlidge in spiritual practice, its just that he has broken it down to understandable pieces, and not presenting it in a mambo-jumbo fashioned way like lots of others does. I am not a spiritual person, but BOY DID I become one. People love me at work, women loves me, ive handled all many of my FEARS. And i have forgiven alot of shit in my life. I feel i truly have been awakened from a sleeping conditioned. Either im ****ing mad now and talking from a dream, or it is true, i woke up (after healing myself from a nasty trauma i had with something called 5d-formula). This is not an advertisment, it is only something that is on the internet for free anyways. And after the “healing” wich actually was an forgivness and releasing the anger and bitternes from my abuser, i got to a new stage in my life where i (sorry for saying this) but think all of you PUA are loosers. I really do not have to do any games to attract women anymore. I have an unbreakable inner game and i didnt even need to suffer for it. I have tried alot of other systems, but none of them deals with fear in a proper way. Except for, JUST DO IT! Do it based on what? It does not teach the importanse of selfrespect at all times! Now i am counseling people everywhere around me with theire relationship, and amazed as i am myself, i can notice the improvement all the time. I have trouble believing it myself, but i can not deny the fact what my eyes can see. Ive also choosen to begin helping people in my local enviremont (the poor). And i can speak to any women i choose to… ect…. Shit! i dont get this! am i in a dream? or are you just wining or something? A bunch of winers all of you? is that possible??? sheeez…. yeah, and VAMPs – it is true also. He defines VAMPS as DavidD does also. U have the poorme, aloof, interrogater ect…. Has no one in here experienced them? You know, those who takes advantage of you if ur acting nice?
wops! forgive me for all the spelling mistakes
Yeah, I was going to say… All those spelling and grammatical errors don’t really help your case there, pal. When the messenger isn’t presentable, the source doesn’t appear credible.
benjamin
of course steph isn’t gonna put out products called: “how to hold grudges against people, how to reject yourself, how to close your heart”
there has to be *SOME* value in what he sells… but it could’ve been found somewhere else
and I recommend to go somewhere else, go directly to the source, because a lot of his own paradigms are actually limiting beliefs about the world and what is possible out there… and a lot of it is poison too (gtp, training, etc.)
I used to enjoy finding energy vamps around me so that I could label them as such and then justify why I’m such a victim of the world and nobody understands me because I’m too spiritually advanced (that’s just CRAP by the way)
so I started looking for energy vamps everywhere, and I FOUND them… I got to be right about that one
but the thing you have to understand is that if you truly have your shit together, if you’re truly confident, people will treat you the way confident people are treated !! and it will be VERY rare that you will find someone who doesn’t treat you with respect
and if you believe people are vamps and are there to plot against you, guess what… that’s exactly what you will attract
also,
what makes you a man ? Isn’t having a pair of testicles enough ? do you really need to create a persona and fit in that new mold that people call masculinity, or you just need to accept who you ALREADY are ?
being masculine is not the same as being confident…
but being confident DOES equal accepting yourself entirely
After reading most of the post and most of the comments, one question comes to me : How many of you actualy went and checked out iG? If you want the truth out of that story, go check the website and make up your own mind.
You know, when I first found the community, I didn’t join because I wanted to learn pick up or seduction or how to #-close an HB9 in 5 minutes using a foolproof script. I joined because I wanted the end of suffering in my relationship with women. When I found ideaGasms I started to realise that it wasn’t just a dream. I realised that it was possible to get to a place were one doesn’t suffer “because” of women. I am walking that path right now and I am eternaly grateful to Stephane for teaching me all he thaught me.
May god bless all of your souls,
TheKid
Hey guys,
I’ve been reading some of these posts and I have to say, whoa, what’s up?
I’ll just share a little bit of my IG experience, how my life’s been impacted and what I’m up to/where I’m at now because of it.
Four years ago I found the whole community through David D and his products. Like a lot of guys, I simply wanted to get better with women. I was fed up with honestly having no success. It wasn’t something I could bullshit myself on, and I wanted results.
I found David’s products and got immersed. I’m sure you know the rush when you feel like you have the potential to learn and grow, getting better with women while others stay failing. I went full steam, getting almost all of his products, including the monthly interviews. It’s here I found Steph and IG.
What he said and his ideas definitely sparked my interest so I checked him out. For 3 years I was signed up to his newsletters, reading them whenever I got a new one. Honestly, my reaction to a lot of the things he said was shock, confusion or more often than not, laughter. I found a lot of his newsletters hilarious.
However, those things I was shocked at, I didn’t let color my perception. I always challenged any feeling of rejection I had so I could understand what I found shocking about it. In this way I started to grow a lot. While I may not have truly understood and agreed with everything he said, I realized he had a lot of knowledge from experience and decided to use what I liked.
Fast forward to last year, I bought my first IG product and got on the fourms. I immediately noticed a lot of people either worshiped Steph or hated him. The longer I was on the fourms I felt in myself that I was placing him on a pedestal. It took a lot of self work to again catch myself when I did this.
I eventually reached a point where I realized that talking on the fourms wasn’t doing me any good. Not due to specific posters or Steph, but that I needed to focus on actually improving my own life; not wasting time complaining or worrying about the world of the fourm.
It’s here that I noticed the biggest improvements. I learned from Steph’s products and used them in my life. Seriously, it was kinda scary at times, seeing the shit I had to deal with and face in myself. I saw the neediness, the insecurity, the fear, the huge ego. But I couldn’t lie to myself, I knew they were parts of me I needed to work on.
I spent time meditating, removing fears, changing the direction in my life to what felt right for me. Steph to me was an example, much as many others, who decide to follow their own path in life. Through what he taught, I found the tools to live a life I wanted, not one judged right or wrong by society.
I found an amazing girlfriend and truly felt ready for a fulfilling relationship with what I learned. I constantly worked on improving myself with what I learned for the benefit of my relationship and my girlfriend’s. I worked my butt off to move beyond petty insecurities and have a relationship where there was so much love that we couldn’t help but pass the love and help to others.
This leads me to today. Currently, I’m constanly working on improving my life, but by all means I’m extremely happy and fulfilled with what I have. I’m in an amazing relationship with a beautiful woman, going to graduate with a college degree, studying abroad in Costa Rica, starting a successful business, spreading my love and motivation to others, moving to LA after college to mentor and tutor little kids and living a life of fun and adventure. I recently rejected offers to work in a corporate job the rest of my life because I honestly didn’t feel true happiness or fulfillment there. Now I have to chance to help others grow and pass on what I’ve learned.
Steph and IG truly helped me get to this point.
I can feel where a lot of you are coming from with the posts. You feel hurt and betrayed, confused and lost. Steph, you feel, is the one causing this and thus needs to be stopped. However, please be completely honest and ask yourself “How is this improving my life?’ Are you truly any happier for it? Do you feel truly fulfilled and satisfied?
If you have any shred of doubt as to this really helping your life, why not just let it go? In my life, when I feel something like hate or pain from another is bringing me down, I become honest and drop it out of my life. Even if that means having to let go of beliefs I felt were a part of me. If they aren’t helping, they’re hurting.
This anger, rage, betrayal, suspicion, fear that is being being expressed through these words is the same that we’ve seen countless times and examples of in our lives, the lives of others, the history of humanity and our present world. What has it got any of us except for more of the same? How has it been truly shown to help us grown and live happy and fulfilled?
Please, instead of focusing on what you believe to be negative, instead try to see positive. Focus on what your experiences have taught you and live a life of excellence, constantly being true to yourself and following positive feelings. Live to grow and support others along with you.
I wish all of you great luck and God speed on your lives. I’ll leave this post on this quote that I live by:
“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”
-Marianne Williamson
Hey guys!
Reading through all of these posts, I see a lot of hate, and most people want to just get back at Steph instead of being truth seekers. Some masquerade as truth seekers but instead they spread lies and great distortion through emotional ideas and opinions which have no basis or like half-truths have mixed the truth with lies.
An example:
“Im glad you feel he offers great advice, and maybe he actually does! The problem is that the advice doens’t belong to him. Everything he says or “teaches” has actualy come from someone else, its all plagarized. For those who like that path, please feel free and continue on it, but Please get it from a real teacher and not a fake like Stephan”
Though the above quote, purportedly from Steph’s cousin (I don’t know if it is or not), appears to be truthful, it shows half-truths as mentioned above. So she’ says she’s glad that someone feels Steph offers great advice, but then that is followed by “and maybe he actually does”. If this is really Steph’s cousin, then why hasn’t she been interested enough to find out the truth of whether he does give great advice? I certainly would be interested in what my family is interested in, yet it appears she has not sat down and listened to him with an open mind. It is easy to listen to others with a closed-mind, using what they say to turn it back on them in order to negate their reality and support our own.
Then there is a “problem” that the advice “doesn’t belong to him”. I am taught science at university, of course the content of the course does not belong to me, does that mean I’ll stop sharing it with others if it can help them out? Science journals and textbooks have all been reworded to prevent plagiarism but it doesn’t effect the pure facts; the facts are simply set in a different context. All spiritual information is reworded, hence the plethora of world religions we have today, all truthful religions are actually pointing towards the same god but with different words; this has recently been supported with enhancements of technology in neuroscience (the use of fMRI with nuns and buddhists whilst in meditation). It is only misinterpretation of religious and spiritual texts that results in error; this has affected mankind for thousands of years. Many have misinterpreted Steph’s passion for the truth as arrogance for the truth, why they have done this they can only ask themselves.
You say Steph is a fake but you bring no evidence of that. Opinion without evidence has no substance, no conclusion can be made from it but more emotional drama, half-truths and fallcacious information. Most information here is highly emotionalised and without substance in reality, any person who reads the above comments is likely to become confused and possibly convinced by the repetition of falsehoods. Opinion can be convincing to most because our minds are very susceptible to programming, but like science we must discover via factual evidence, striving to go beyond our egos and see the world more “objectively”. If we do not, we simply fuel our egos and humbleness is thrown out of the window.
So it all comes back to what Steph has taught before; “be your own guru” and “the world is your mirror”. None of this emotionalised hate and vilification is needed, just a humbleness to discover what is truth and what is falsehood. Many have used Steph as a “verbal punchbag” to let out their own emotional problems that they are struggling with instead of facing and dealing with them themselves. One of our weaknesses as humans is our inability to view ourselves from outside of our own reality, so “the world is your mirror” shines light on this inability and allows us to see weaknesses in others if we are humble enough to see them in ourselves.
Thanks for the encouragement and your blessings. The internet rumors,
dramatic distortions, and hatred are actually just projections of
unconscious guilt (guilt and hate are actually the same energy – guilt
is directed inwards, and hatred is when guilt is projected and
directed outwards).
Have you heard the thing about crabs in the bucket?
When crabs are in a bucket together, and one of them tries to climb
out, the other crabs try to latch onto it and pull it back into the
bucket.
Well, this same principle usually applies to human consciousness.
Think back to when you began your spiritual path, and your best
friends started trying to make you doubt yourself and “pull you down”.
Perhaps they began to feel distrustful of your motives, and paranoid,
skeptical about you, distorting your behaviors to make you seem un-
trustworthy, evil, wrong, immoral, and so on.
It seems that when I evolved and let go of girl-who-shall-remain-
nameless, circle lifestyle, sympathy issues, and the IG forum, all the
crabs in my life have assembled online to try to pull me back into the
bucket of hell they are still stuck in.
It’s the the nature of those particular levels of human consciousness,
and as such, they can hardly be blamed, just like a dog cannot be
blamed for behaving like a dog. Unconscious guilt is a tricky issue to
overcome, and when people don’t know how to do this, it often turns to
vindictive hatred, slander, libel, revenge, and now we are even
witnessing death treats.
Anyway, I’m doing great, I’ve learned a lot from this, and I remain on
the same path as always, in search of Truth at the exclusion of all
other options, so thanks for your support. One major thing I have
learned is that, when you try to help people from the position of
being in sympathy with them, you’ll attract people that are literally
not capable of being honest with themselves (and therefore with
others). And when you let go of sympathy, be prepared for them to
“bite the hand which used to feed them” as the saying goes. Then it
becomes clear: It was never truth that they wanted, it was validation.
The fact that 85% of the world in completely non-integrous has really
started to stand out, and my wife and I are thankful to everyone for
(indirectly) assisting us in finally being able to tell “who’s who”,
whereas in the past we were quite naive, especially regarding our so-
called students. “The world is your mirror” also seems to apply to our
better qualities, in that we can easily project things like
“compassion” and “truth-seeking” onto non-integrous people.
One thing to look out for is those people who position themselves to
be “against” people and ideas, rather than for truth. The moment we
see words such as “ideagasms EXPOSED”, it actually exposes the one
seeking to do the exposing itself. My favorite example of this kind of
thing would be David Icke, the conspiracy theorist who tries to
“expose the illuminati” and naively ends up exposing himself to be non-
integrous and actually just spreading dis-information and paranoia.
The big “disinformation” we’re seeing with these so-called “ex-IGers”
is that they claim to be “exposing ideagasms” because they claim they
want to save the world from a supposed “wolf in sheeps clothing”. But
if you really think about it, what are they really doing? To us, it
seems they are helping us to weed out those people who aren’t ready to
handle the ideas I share, and on top of this, they are actually just
advertising for IG (“There is no such thing as bad advertising”). For
while their comments were upsetting, but upon reflection they
inadvertently helped my wife and I to let go of more and more of the
unconscious “issues” we had that stood in the way of our spiritual
goals. For example, we received some death threats one evening, and my
wife went into a state of sheer panic, the kind of fear where the
person ends up shaking uncontrollably.
She saw this as being another opportunity to transcend fear. I took
her in my arms and she began to surrender (to stop resisting) this
fear to God, and a few minutes later we both entered a bliss state
that is beyond words.
From this state, we began to see that the slander, libel,
disinformation, and death threats were truly a gift, and we started
laughing and making jokes about how we should really just send all
these people a donation for helping us to grow spiritually.
Thanks for the encouragement and your blessings, and once again:
The internet rumors, dramatic distortions, and hatred are merely just
projections of unconscious guilt (guilt and hate are actually the same
energy – guilt is directed inwards, and hatred is when guilt is
projected and directed outwards).
Therefore, hatred is a lie, it’s an illusion that stems from pride
(which is another lie, due to the ego falsely thinking that it is the
source of life, and therefore God). What becomes obvious is the sheer
amount of unconscious guilt that everyone who slanders me is producing
for themselves, the amount of which was revealed to me in a meditative
state and is absolutely staggering. The amount of hatred is also
staggering (again, guilt and hatred are ‘two sides of the same coin”).
So how about we pray for these people?
One thing you’ll see from these people are fallacious comments about
them wanting to do this to help me. Things like, “I’m really just a
concerned uncle” are lies. When you really think about it, the human
ego actually thinks that anyone who doesn’t agree with it’s
positionalities is wrong, immoral, and therefore deserves to die. And
we’ve seen the death threats posted online, they are loud and clear.
Jesus said, “Forgive them father, they know not what they do” and I
suppose this also applies to anyone who slanders me, so I have prayed
(often) for their forgiveness. I also pray for the aspect of myself
that has done similar things to others (either in this lifetime, or
previous lifetimes).
Jesus also said to offer our “enemies” the other cheek, which also
gives us something to think about. I can remember that scene in “the
peaceful warrior” where they get robbed, and the Teacher begins asking
the robbers if they would be willing to take MORE than just his money,
and he starts giving his clothes to them as well. And there is that
beautiful quote, “Those who are hardest to love and the ones who need
it the most”.
I’ve thought about how I can apply this kind of wisdom in this
“slander context’, for for me it means just continuing to do what it
is that I’ve been doing all along with ideaGasms, which is to
continually seek the truth, and share whatever I can with whomever
wants me to share. I talked to lawyers about putting a stop to these
internet slanderGasms – did you know that they are not even allowed to
talk about myself and ideaGasms without my consent? What they’re doing
is actually illegal, and while I could throw lawyers at them and all
that, after some deep reflection, I’ve decided that I would rather
“offer the other cheek” by letting them be whatever they decide to be.
And besides, I’ve learned that people unconsciously know when they’re
being lied to anyway.
If these people really wanted to help others and to help me “see the
truth” as they falsely claim, they should be setting up websites that
encourage people to pray for me and to love me, but we doubt that will
happen any time soon
One more thing. I encourage you to read the book “people of the lie”
by Scott M. Peck. It’s a real eye-opener.
Stephane
Speaking of lies, where’s the proof that Stephane was ever a national skateboarding champion, as he claimed in his interview with David DeAngelo?
This page is really sad, why does someone who bends their back for us trying to help our lonleyness / rejection / purposeless existance, get villinised like this ?
IG opended me up to soo much stuff, i can’t even begin to name it all. See to me i could care less about the incongruency stuff you guys dig up , its about what was given and shared, the personal emails about my problems and insecurities, the gtp , how to chill the fuck out and live and enjoy it, how to be a man.
Stephane:
You are the bigges liar I have offically ever known. Your sitting there quoting Jesus, when you are the least spiritual person around. Faking it doens’t mean you are!
And as for :
“I talked to lawyers about putting a stop to these
internet slanderGasms – did you know that they are not even allowed to
talk about myself and ideaGasms without my consent? What they’re doing
is actually illegal, and while I could throw lawyers at them and all” – thats’ the biggest joke of all.
why don’t you tell people how you lied to your own grandmother to dupe her into telling you things so you can ty and get your “revenge”? maybe people need to hear te truth instead ofyour constant lies.
secondly, the minute you make a “business”, post it on the internet and etc, your gonna tell people they are’t aloowed to talk about it or else they will be sued??!!!! what kind of lawyer told you that??!! thats complete garbage!
i think you decided to turn the other cheek because you realized it was a fight you weren’t going to win.
Don’t you dare try and slander our family’s good name with your bullshit lies and crap. and don’t you forget that we tried praying for you, and tried helping you but when you relaized we weren’t giving you anymore money (to screw around with) and we were telling people the truth about you that it was YOU who backtabbed everyone including your own sister who had nothing but love for you. you should be ashamed of yourself-we are.
Here’s some advice: get a lawyer to try and shut us up for telling the truth, it will be another can of worms you don’t want to open!
P.S how have your tax returns been since you opened your business?
They’re gonna gitchew, they’re gonna gitchew, they’re gonna gitchew…
lol i just re read it, and i know it soud a bit harsh i was just super pissed that he thinks like he does….he’s too twisted for me.
p.s everyone, sorry for the spelling mistakes, shows what happens when your mad while writing lol!!!
Let’s have a look at what is transpiring at the moment (i.e. reality check 101)
Stephane is suffering from a narcisstic disorder..period. No amount of reframing is going to change his holier than thou attitude. We all see thru it and he physically and emotionally hurt two women that we’re part of his life.. His latest victims are his grandmother and his sister .That now makes 4 in 6 months. (That I know about) Eventually the abuser that he is will be found out and the charade will end. I am sure authorities on many fronts are closing in soon. His claim to a lawyer is quite funny.
He quotes Jesus in turning the other cheek..oh pleeease
In his case he hits you on the cheek..Ask Ghita..
Hey Steph, if you’re going to trip up on the bible….get it right will yaw. Honor thy mother and father. When was the last time you called her and told her you loved her?
Love one another as you love yourself. Why did you trash your sister’s love for you?
You can’t love…narcissitic personality won’t let you unless there is sometihng in it for you
A quote from the Mayo Clinic
Definition:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. They believe that they’re superior to others and have little regard for other people’s feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life, such as work or school. In particular, narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as histrionic, antisocial and borderline personality disorders. Narcissistic personality disorder treatment is centered on psychotherapy.
While we’re being REAL here (no reframing when I post!!)
This was found on a publicly available revenu Quebec website. Ideagasm was closed officially January 18th 2007
Ideagasms is operating illegally??? “Radie sur demande”.. means Steph closed it down voluntarily??
He opened it up in 18 th of August 2005; 2 fiscal years without filing income tax reports? Is this possible?hmmmm
In Quebec if you don’t file for 2 years… the grim reaper shuts you down real quick
BTW type of business: SEXtherapy..
Steph needs the therapy..Lots
If this was really his post on the 24th, we must be rattling his cage quite nicely. His ego is taking a hit and a narcissistic paranoia cannot handle loss of control. I’m still waiting for the lawyer’s letter to come…
THE realities of the facts are:
As of today, there are no other businesses registered under his name.
There were two personal companies shut down that day (not corporations)
Ideagasms and Entreprise Ideagams .This is a copy/paste of the document on file showing Ideagasms is toast.BTW this was Steph’s old address.
1 Établissement(s) 0 Personne(s) liée(s) 2 Autre(s) nom(s) 3 Document(s)
2263174932 RADIÉ SUR DEMAND 2007-01-18 APPARTEMENT 14 ANTÉRIEUR
IDEAGASMS 2376, RUE MELROSE
MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) ——————————————————————————–
Nothing is showing up in the Federal books as well
One little itsy bitsy phone call to Revenue Quebec….
They’re gonna gitchew, they’re gonna gitchew, they’re gonna gitchew
Courtesy of Enlightened Master Power Tripper, 24. November 2008, 13:06 post.
Hey Sanders; When you talk about Stephane sharing information to the world, I would really like to challenge you in your thought process. Stephane took 31 hours of a 1200 hour course from Doreen Mary Bray, he bought all her cd and materials, then all of a sudden within a few months he revoiced on his cd’s her work almost word for word. There is no mention as reference to her works in his publications nor did he obtain permission to use them in his texts/cd’s. Her work is protected by copyright. Doreen is a lover of light and has chosen not to prosecute him even though the evidence is overwhelming. The context of these posts is to allow people to have a voice. To begin the healing in admitting they have been hurt and or abused by Steph’s warped teachings. As an invitational McGill professor I have zero patience for plagiarism and /or the tropic du jour called reframing. It shows little academic interest and is purely for the gain of the author with disregard for those who have done the academic path and have achieved their discoveries of life with grace and honor and not from ,simply put,
theft.
I have gone to task, to the many hundreds of students I have had the pleasure to teach over the years, to share my experiences and of successes and of my failures. I have also collaborated in many technical manuals and academic papers
over the years. When you use a reference to others, you acknowledge their hard work in their career by having the honesty to footnote their contribution to your technical papers.
When you wrote your papers through out your academic years, did you not note in your acknowledgments who /what/where became part of your work. Of course you did..
or else you’d get your butt kicked.
Steph is a fraud.. period. If you’re in denial, then that is your truth. We have lived alongside this person for many many years. We have the truth. Know the truth and live the truth.
There is probably to much to read, and alot of spelling mistakes. You have been warned
I would recommend to all of you in here to learn to forgive. Whatever happened to you, i believe that it is something reflecting back to you. The level and hate in here is so high.
I am a student (or at least i consider myself to be) of love & compassion. And one of the effective ways to make steps forward, is to find someone you hate or ANY other stressful feelings towards the person, and heal yourself. It is so incredibly easy, and you will let go of the burden the trauma had over you. What i usually do is to write down the things i don’t like about others. Understand “the world is your mirror” and see what might be the case with your self. And to identify what might be something that is telling anything about you (like my new girlfriends 4-years old child yelling at me), look for the trigger; feelings.
As soon as there are some (bad)feelings rushing through you, it means your are trapped.
I know this will trigger even more hate for those that this applies for, and i am really sorry, but it is true, we all are stuck with our emotions (to different degrees)
and as far as i can see here, is that lots of people here are stuck. I can feel the anger. And these people in here are right, to feel the anger. Maybe they really experienced this shit, and the hate and anger is very big. But do your self a favor and heal yourself and stop with the exposing of yourself.
Quoting: “When you use a reference to others, you acknowledge their hard work in their career by having the honesty to footnote their contribution to your technical papers.”
JC talks about some academic works that is frauded by someone, please do a research of the sources of every teacher out there, and check if they have done some similar as what you suggest Stephane did. Did you find anything? Did you find something? Or alot? Or less then expected, anyways, how much does it matter for the people? It will matter for the one that is afraid for that to happened i guess, or to a victim of something similar.
And Jasmine should be handling this in her own private… hehe… what a drama. And i don’t care if it is true or not, because i don’t bother (i think i speak for many of us with the same opinion, but those who DON’T care, are those who do not bother to write maybe). If i where to bother for all the personal **ckups people that i thought to be great really had in theire life, well i guess i have to take a good look at myself and see my denial. Im not perfect, FAR from it. I lie and cheat my self often in the sense of that i am not on a high level of awareness yet. I have still many lessons to learn. There is alot of thing i do without beeing aware; Just like writing this, either i piss of alot of people or not or neutral- The bet i can do is to stay as present as possible while writing this. But eventually i will get smacked at something i have written here, and therefor i have do judge for myself if I speak the truth and that it is the truth i relate to at all times related to this. Also the others will speak their truth after this message, and if i feel threatened of their truth, it means that their is something going on. But if i care to much of what you will think of me (the outcome), i will not write anything, or at best write something you guys would like to hear.
Bytheway Narcissism, hmm.. isnt this also “reframing”. Psychologist love to reframe peoples “madness” into a fancy diagnostic. And for those who think that i am not well educated, it is true, cus im not a high educated person. I have a friend who had diagnostic “schizophrenia with insight”, that is a very rare diagnostic, it means that he knew that he was paranoid. And he dealt with that himself eventually (bytheway he thinks all spiritual stuff is lame and stupid, and i think all of his academic readings are geeky and nerdy), but BOY did he get trouble by the psychologists telling him that he MUST take drugs and accept that he is not going to make it for him self, and bla bla bla… lot of wacky psychologist stuff for a long period of time. I love psychology, but what they define as a standard degree of healthy and not -applies not to everyone. I am sure that many agrees to this.
I think i speak for many of us when i say, go and heal yourself. If that doesn’t help, then just exist like a victim and become a reaction-machine of the outer world problems. I am not suggesting that you guys should not speak the truth, but who`s truth is it really? And the person who is speaking the truth, has he/she in any way invited this event? Maybe being to naive and getting burned? Not listening to your inner voice telling the truth? Have you at all times respected and honoured yourself (body and mind)? Maybe you have to forgive yourself for something and letting go. The truth is for people to find out, and the mistakes of others should be solved as soon as possible. If not, the sadness and the suffering of it will hold you. Release and move on, and please stop making this to a who is right who is wrong(its like listening to my parents fight, for the same thing the past 30 years). If any of this got your head boiling and thinking that that is NOT the case, then there is something there! Right THERE! Now go do something about it. And if u got angry or mad at anything else on the forum people wrote, do your inner child a favor and stop harassing yourself. Stop being so harsh on yourself!)
PS: (If you bother reading more) the solution for the child yelling at me:
The resultfeeling of the child yelling at me was a nasty gutfeeling in my tummy. After thinking abit, i found out that i had to stand up more for myself. The feeling was my inner child getting hurt. That i need to tell her child myself right away if she is crossing the line (with heart). And now she loves me even more, and we can have fun AND i learned;
I need to stand up for myself more and not become outcome dependant because im afraid she will not approve of me, and then i will loose the mother….and blablabla….
have a nice week to you all!
Norway says keep warm good!
-Benjamin
“Hey Sanders; When you talk about Stephane sharing information to the world, I would really like to challenge you in your thought process. Stephane took 31 hours of a 1200 hour course from Doreen Mary Bray, he bought all her cd and materials, then all of a sudden within a few months he revoiced on his cd’s her work almost word for word. There is no mention as reference to her works in his publications nor did he obtain permission to use them in his texts/cd’s. Her work is protected by copyright. Doreen is a lover of light and has chosen not to prosecute him even though the evidence is overwhelming. The context of these posts is to allow people to have a voice. To begin the healing in admitting they have been hurt and or abused by Steph’s warped teachings. As an invitational McGill professor I have zero patience for plagiarism and /or the tropic du jour called reframing. It shows little academic interest and is purely for the gain of the author with disregard for those who have done the academic path and have achieved their discoveries of life with grace and honor and not from ,simply put,
theft.
I have gone to task, to the many hundreds of students I have had the pleasure to teach over the years, to share my experiences and of successes and of my failures. I have also collaborated in many technical manuals and academic papers
over the years. When you use a reference to others, you acknowledge their hard work in their career by having the honesty to footnote their contribution to your technical papers.
When you wrote your papers through out your academic years, did you not note in your acknowledgments who /what/where became part of your work. Of course you did..
or else you’d get your butt kicked.
Steph is a fraud.. period. If you’re in denial, then that is your truth. We have lived alongside this person for many many years. We have the truth. Know the truth and live the truth.”
I don’t know if any of this is true or not. I have only your word on it, a person over the internet that I’ve not met. The only way anyone could actually verify the truth would be to have a mature public debate, but I’m sure that would turn into something like the Jerry Springer show from what I’ve heard “of” so far. My personal experience of meeting Steph numerous times is that he’s a great guy who spends his time researching, finding out, and teaching the Truth to share it with others, as a friend also I’ve never had any problems.
“as a friend also I’ve never had any problems.”
Not even when he spanked your ass for getting uppity and thinking he would treat you as a friend and equal?
Aren’t you embarrassed? I would be.
Let me refresh your memory you little toady . . .
“So you have no questions for me? WHY would you be organizing this
event in the first place? “To help others”?
Sanders, your male pride, get a grip man.
I know things you don’t know, and my experience speaks for itself.
Quit trying to BS yourself that you’re my friend on my level.
You’re a student, so start behaving like one.
You still suck with women, you get all confused in their presence,
nervous, approach anxiety…
Don’t you want to break free?
You little prick know-it-all’s are going to be getting a mouthful when
i arrive. We’ll see who is seeking truth versus who isn’t.
Guys, you’re about to MEET ME in real person. I’m the guy who’s been
teaching you cutting-edge stuff on dating sex and relationships since 4 years ago.
If I were you, I would carry a notepad around, to jot down your questions.
Don’t take this meetup for granted. It will probably be my last one, anyway.
In a sense, I am coming all the way there to say goodbye to most of you.
START thinking about your questions, even the embarassing ones admitting you
STILL have approach anxiety, or how you still worry is your penis big enough,
and your secret fantasy that you’ve been wondering if it’s healthy or sick to want
such a thing. Don’t bullshit yourself into thinking, “I only want to learn about
transcending sympathy”. What a joke – I posted the solution several
times on the forums, but nobody HEARD the solution to sympathy.
Of course I’m going to assist you with sympathy issues, but it’s going
to be a LOT more than that. Remember the (tentative) title, “Cracking
the female code”. Of course I will end up using a different name, but
you all get the intention behind it. It’s time for us to finally solve
the female puzzles in your life. And I’m on the forefront of this
consciousness, ****so don’t treat me like I’m your buddy.**** I’m not paying
money to see YOU speak.
So, I want to prepare everyone for this meetup. I’ve got some NEW
insights, but I won’t share unless I feel a serious truth-seeking
energy from you. Why would I?
With MOST of you – You guys all think that since i left Ghita,
everything I’ve taught must be wrong, flawed since GTP’ness didn’t
“work out on ghita”, And how I must have really lost her,
as if she didn’t want to be with ME anymore. Because nobody in their
right mind would toss away a CIRCLE GIRL, right? So you think
*something* must be wrong with that guy, Stephane.
She was so sweet. And then you start doubting my integrity, but all
you know self-doubt very well. So is it my integrity, or your self-
doubt and paranoia? Hmmm…?
I know what self-doubt is guys, I know paranoia very well too. And,
I’m very aware of just how many of you are coming to this event simply
because you want to get drunk with me, pretend that you’re on my level
of consciousness, and especially – many of you are attending this
because you want to get the latest tabloid ghita news, straight from
the source.
my leaving Ghita only shows you how FOR REAL I am. Imagine leaving a
perfect circle girl who would do anything for me? She literally would do
*anything* for me. Something you all secretly dream of, I might add.
You guys better start thinking long and hard about what it is you wish
to GET OUT of this weekend. All of the little dark corners, all the
ways in which you hide from yourselves,
the excuses you give for not having women in your life, ALL of it is
coming OUT during this event, and anybody who plays dumb (or plays
“wise”) is getting booted.”
You can tell everyone I said so, in fact, I’m asking you to please
send them a “message I got from Stephane” and just copy and paste the
above.
We are here to change our lives, so let’s fucking do so already.
Thanks kid,
Stephane Hemon”
Message to Stephane:
Slander is only Slander when it is FALSE !!!!!
In this case, what has been exposed about you is TRUE, your true behaviors… what you actually DO when you’re finished writing those beautiful newsletters about compassion and unconditional love and turning the other cheek
Go visit prisons: They are full of people who think that deep down they have good intentions. They will re-frame, rationalize and try to turn everything around concerning their behavior… But the proof is in their behavior, not what they THINK
I’m a very spiritual person, I don’t believe in shame, guilt, etc.
But what counts is NOT your words, Stephane Hemon !!!
It’s your A-C-T-I-O-N-S !!!!
Stephane wrote:
“The fact that 85% of the world in completely non-integrous has really
started to stand out, and my wife and I are thankful to everyone for
(indirectly) assisting us in finally being able to tell “who’s who”,
whereas in the past we were quite naive, especially regarding our so-
called students. “The world is your mirror” also seems to apply to our
better qualities, in that we can easily project things like
“compassion” and “truth-seeking” onto non-integrous people.”
Hey Stephane you stupid prick, why do you have such idiotic BLIND FAITH in Hawkins? Why do you just *believe* Hawkins’ data that only %15 of the world’s population has integrity?? Your preoccupation with calibration was an embarrassment, and the beginning of the end of your forum. If you and your associates couldn’t reliably calibrate, why take Hawkins’ word on anything?
What problem has calibration solved? Name one.
Why the FUCK should anyone believe any of it? Go ahead, DEFEND IT. You TRIED already, it didn’t work!
Knock that weak, rotten little plank out of place, and your whole little house of cards……CRUMBLES.
And how about this little tidbit, you drug-headed turkey.
If people had disagreements or reservations with regard to you or your material and voiced it on your forum, what happened?
THEY GOT BANNED.
Why the fuck should Thundy give you a voice here?
Maybe Hawkins was right about free speech. Maybe Thundy should just hit delete?
How come there aren’t groups of former students trying to expose David D, Mystery, Neil Strauss?
Maybe because they have more integrity than YOU, and practice what they preach, and don’t promise what they can’t deliver?
B/T/W, I got Eben Pagan’s email on the guru mastermind stuff.
The marketing techniques you used, down to the phone consultations are ALL his blueprint, %100. Talk about biting the hand that feeds! What a gentleman!
Don’t you see a PATTERN here ?
Stephane still unable to admit or take responsibility for even one OUNCE of his behaviors ! After the HUGE load of proof against him, where has he admitted even one single of his “faults” or errors ?
P-R-I-D-E at work
He just rationalized and turned the tables around to put himself in the victim seat !!
By the way, those who tell the truth about Stephane are not the same people as the ones who issue “death threats” but Stephane wants to convieniently put them all in the same basket.
Being a public figure of any kind, you receive death threats. I don’t think it was the first time anyway… so stop being such a victim and try escaping your responsability for what you DID
Stephane !! your denial astounds me !!
Jesus !
True dat, snooze, true dat.
Snooze wrote:
“By the way, those who tell the truth about Stephane are not the same people as the ones who issue “death threats” but Stephane wants to convieniently put them all in the same basket.”
Steph also lies his ass off. Like the story he proudly told about once tricking someone into eating his poo-poo.
Its easy to lie when you say things without any verifiable source, and there is no one to confirm things.
Woah, there are a lot of comments here.
My experiences with ideaGasms, have been pretty different to some of your guys experiences. I genuinely like what he teaches, It might not be for everyone, but it has massively helped the way in which I move through the world & my relationships with women.
I suggest you guys who have never visited ideaGasms.net go there now and check it out. I remember coming to this site 5 years ago and reading all these hate-articles about guys in the community, only to discover several years later that their stuff was actually pretty good. If you decide to avoid ideaGasms because of what you read here, I think that you’d be throwing out the baby with the bath-water, so-to-speak.
Also, for you guys that are nay-saying (lol), I think a little empathy for Steph could go a long way here. He is human after-all and we humans are prone to mistakes, I haven’t seen anywhere where Steph claims to be perfect. He may have his flaws (most of which seem greatly exaggerated/taken out of context on this site) but he does seem to have compassion down.
And I’m not seeing much compassion here from those few who claim to be spiritual. In a way, I’m kinda glad that I’m not in Steph’s position, there seems to be a lot of hate for him here, this place is kinda depressing.
Peace!
Dear Simdb:
the reason it sounds like a lot of hate, is because this is the place to tell the truth about him! Thats why it’s called meltdown lol. if you think some of the stuff works for you, thats fantastic! speaking as a smart, sophisticated and intellectual woman, i can tell you right now, if ANYONE tried his stuff on me, not only would i turn you down but i would be disgusted with you for thinking I a the type of woman those “tricks” would work on.
Just my 2 cents!
oh yeah, and DO NOT visit ideagasms without seeing the ex-IG forum AS WELL
Stephane will obviously not tell you that he hit Ghita, that he lied about his achievements, does NOT practice what he preaches, and is pretty much mentally insane
http://z15.invisionfree.com/exideagasmers
the TALL PUPPY SYNDROME… or the “crab in the bucket” syndrome:
why isn’t there a whole forum dedicated to exposing Mystery ?
why isn’t there a whole forum dedicated to exposing David Deangelo ?
why isn’t there a whole forum dedicated to exposing Juggler ?
etc. etc.
THOSE are TALL PUPPIES
(not Steph)
because there is a difference between being a tall puppy and being a sociopath !!
Stephane is clearly the latter, and a FRAUD on top of that.
Empathy and compassion for Stephane my ass. I’m no Bible-thumper, but recall that even Jesus doesn’t forgive…until one repents.
To “Steph is a fraud”
Lol “toady”
. What’s there to be embarrassed about?
The main point of the email for me was this:
“So you have no questions for me? WHY would you be organizing this
event in the first place? “To help others”?
Sanders, your male pride, get a grip man.”
He hit the nail on the head with this comment. Pride is a very sly but major block to self-awareness. We can feel guilt, anger, shame, desire etc very easily, but when it comes to pride, pride actually feels very good in comparison, it doesn’t seem to be a lower emotion. Pride in today’s society is mostly accepted, think about the whole club culture which involves pride that you can get someone’s desire because of how attractive you are or funny you are etc. Pride is sly because you think to yourself “well there’s nothing wrong with being attractive or funny”, which is true, but pride takes it further than acceptance of who you are, it gets a kick out of who you are and starts comparing your attributes to other people.
Pride makes you think that you don’t have any issues to resolve, but then when you really think about it, when you realise you’re not enlightened yet, you’re not so grandiose as you think you are, you see that it was pride that was covering up those issues in order to protect your own “sensitive” self-image. A self-image based on pride will always be weak, “pride goeth before a fall”.
I took it as a “verbal” spank to get off my high horse and really go inside myself, deeper than I’d ever been before, to pull out issues that were hidden by my pride. It was the deepest, and most honest I’d ever been with myself. I actually stayed up all night pushing further and further into issues, pushing past all the excuses and lies I’d made to myself to stop my progress along the path.
I used it as a kick-in-the-ass to get shit done, to me it was motivational because that’s the way my ego works, I’m lazy until I get a kick in the ass, I’ll push to the limit until I really have to do something. You know how it is with getting essays done for deadlines, I tend to be writing or checking over the essay until the very last minute. My ego must get some kind of juice out of it
“And how about this little tidbit, you drug-headed turkey.” Wow there’s some real hot-headed comments here!
I’m only guessing but this guy probably hasn’t even properly read a Hawkins before, maybe a true sceptic. He/she is taking their own anger out on Steph, it’s clear that a rational person would have written it differently (the emotion of pure anger does not use logic/higher brain).
An appropriate quote from M. Scott Peck “People of The Lie”:
Scapegoating works through a mechanism psychiatrists call projection. Since the narcisstic deep down, feel themselves to be faultless, it is inevitable that when they are in conflict with the world they will invariably perceive the conflict as the world’s fault. Since they must deny their own badness, they must perceive others as bad. They project their own narcissism onto the world. They never think of themselves as narcisstic; on the other hand, they consequently see much narcissism in others.
Spiritual growth requires the acknowledgment of one’s need to grow. If we cannot make that acknowledgment, we have no option except to attempt to eradicate the evidence of our imperfection.
It’s easy to point the finger, it’s stronger to look back at who is pointing it.
“B/T/W, I got Eben Pagan’s email on the guru mastermind stuff.
The marketing techniques you used, down to the phone consultations are ALL his blueprint, %100. Talk about biting the hand that feeds! What a gentleman!”
And let me guess, when you go out to talk to women, you use “openers” and scripts and basicaly blueprint %100. What a gentleman! lol
Logic/higher brain?…Where’s a shred of empirical proof to support the theories of this Hawkins guy?
Preacher man says: ‘”The moon is made of green cheese.” Church-goers say, “The moon is made of green cheese. Preacher man done told me so.”
Same process at work with Stephane’s adherence to the Hawkins concepts: a logical fallacy known as “argument by authority.”
Nuff said.
“Logic/higher brain?…”
Pick up a few neuroscience books and have a look. Humans have been evolved to have a higher brain (neocortex) which is the part of the triune brain (composed of the neocortex, mammalian brain, and reptilian brain), our perception of the world is influenced by the part of the triune brain that we wish to engage with. The neocortex deals with higher brain functions such as maturity, wisdom, logic, rationality. Whereas the amygdala located as part of the mammalian brain is involved with emotion. In some people it is clear that they’re not “using their brain” so to say because they are heavily influenced in their perception by the mammalian brain. The neocortex can regulate the amygdala via top-down processing, enabling us to have more clarity in perception.
“Where’s a shred of empirical proof to support the theories of this Hawkins guy?”
Have you not read his books and applied at least a few of his teachings? Forget the calibrations, the proof is in the pudding.
“Preacher man says: ‘”The moon is made of green cheese.” Church-goers say, “The moon is made of green cheese. Preacher man done told me so.””
Exactly, even more reason for everyone to verify it themselves from experience. In the end we can’t take the word of a teacher for a teaching unless that teacher has authority in the subject which can be easily confused with “authoritative”. “Question authority” is an adolescent rebellious act of the human ego, true authority in a subject stands for itself. For example, think of Einstein, we wouldn’t question him on his theory of relativity, but as students we would ask him questions about his theory of relativity.
Hey Sanders,
I’ve read my Hawkins (big waste of time, and Hawkins himself says Steph distorts his material), and I don’t see many endorsements from the neuroscientists.
You say verify everything for yourself, well calibration doesn’t fucking verify, and that’s what Hawkins based his whole statement about 15% of humanity having integrity. He got that figure by calibration. Steph’s new products depend on the veracity of something that can’t be verifed, ya dum-dum!
Are all of Steph’s remaining yes-men this dumb?
“Hey Sanders,
I’ve read my Hawkins (big waste of time, and Hawkins himself says Steph distorts his material), and I don’t see many endorsements from the neuroscientists.
You say verify everything for yourself, well calibration doesn’t fucking verify, and that’s what Hawkins based his whole statement about 15% of humanity having integrity. He got that figure by calibration. Steph’s new products depend on the veracity of something that can’t be verifed, ya dum-dum!
Are all of Steph’s remaining yes-men this dumb?”
You’ve read “your share” of Hawkins, but from what I’ve read from your comments you don’t seem to have the maturity to understand the material.
At the time, Steph was misrepresenting Hawkins by having a website that was about pickup. Pickup involves lust, manipulation and more importantly seduction, so it is below the integrity line. It actually puts the whole seduction community below the integrity line.
If you have a look at the extensive reference list Hawkins’ quotes in each of his books, you’ll see many references to scientific and psychology research. It seems you found something you didn’t understand through your current perceptual view so you refutated it by disregarding it. I currently haven’t the intellect to understand the intimate details of the works of Einstein, but I don’t disregard them simply because I do not understand from my limited view of the world.
Is it not clear to see that the majority of the world has little integrity? All you have to do is turn on your TV to see the violence, the lies, and deception that makes up a part of the world that we live in. Have a look at the latest news, “Mumbai rocked by deadly shootings” , 80 killed, 250 people injured and people have been taken hostage today in India. Does this seem healthy to you? About 200,000 women in the US alone get raped every year. Just 50 years ago over 60 million people were killed in World War II. The Vietnam War took over 2 million lives and that wasn’t long ago. We hear of gun crimes, crimes of passion, street gangs, suicides, mafias, dangerous addictions, child rapists, thefts, serial killers, the list goes on. In far east countries we have kids being taken away from their parents at a young age and being indoctrinated and programmed in militia gangs to fire automatic weapons, and strap bombs to themselves to blow up themselves and others “in the name of Allah, the all merciful”. As Neo said, you’ve been living in a dream world. It is also why compassion is clearly so important in this world. Open your eyes and you’ll see the clear lack of integrity in the majority of the world; it’s obvious.
So let’s see, Steph lacked integrity before, back when he was telling everyone that he had the highest vibing forum on the net and he was calibrating in the mid-600’s. He said THEN that anyone who questioned him lacked integrity, and he banned them. NOW he says he’s discovered real integrity, and all the people who are exposing the crap he did then are doing so because they are “people of the lie,” and lack integrity.
Steph done fucked with Ma Kali, and now he’s reaping karmic retribution big time. If he doesn’t know what I’m talking about, he should know better. All the darkness he sowed is coming back to him tenfold. This is what happens when spirituality is used in the service of Ego and gain.
You reap what you sow. If the complaints here were irrelevant, he wouldn’t be here whining. Hopefully they will bankrupt him.
First my tummy twisted reading all of this, and now i see that the majority here, are just projecting their lack of drama in their life in here.
I would love to discuss “Hawkins vr I think all of the calibration stuff is weird”. I will not deny anything, but will move with grate awareness about the “gurus” trying to only profit financially and others seeking/frustrated guys. My personal experience with seeking my truth using spiritual practice is this: “-Shit im scared being tricked to believe something so intensely! Believing that my life is improving, and suddenly after 35 years finding myself waking up in a mental institution, and the doctor saying “we tryed to reach out to you, but you was a victim of a massive brainwash-project from a mad scientis named Stephane or Hawkins or Chopra, or Tolle or Church, or authority or ect…” I guess this is some of what everyone is afraid of when they are out and searching their truth. And not to only project their fear of the truth (same as blaming the world around).
But common sense will prevail, spiritual or not! How does the fruits of your life seem to be after applying the different tools anyone gives you? Use your eyes to see for yourself. Is it good, is it bad? We your own guru.
And Hawkins i haven’t read yet, but the little i have seen seems to be “to easy to be true”.
But then again, maybe it just is that easy? I lost faith to any form of authority specialized on the different human dilemmas (war, society-problems, racism..ect). It seems to ME that the very reason all this ***cked up shit happens in the world is people expressing their suppressed problems OUT to the world. The world is your mirror is true, and nothing is going to change that. George w Bush is elected by some people, and these people are just as ***cked up as Bush himself. I think that is the truth, and not much else but the truth (that USA is pretty messed up, just look at their “fruits”)
Wars starts out with a guy beeing pissed of because he never dealt with his twisted traumes (getting raped or whatever), so he wants to get his revenge. HE acts upon HATE and SHAME and ANGER and ect… and WOPS! = misery and hell breaks loose. Yes this is very simplistic, and whatever the logical reason this comes from and such others, Ive heard that war very often is initiated by misunderstandings, maybe that is only BS. But it seems that, deep inside the people spreading hate and shit like that, ALWAYS seems to have some reason for it. And whatever that “good” reason is, crap-energy is spreading around. Do I want to stick around a be apart of that? (obviously yes, because im in here, as Homer Simpson would said: Doup!;)
Ive been watching this forum for a while, and written a few times. Something is dragging me back here, and i guess it is that my improvement of my life has been because of STephane. I thought i wanted to f*** as much girls as possible, and i found my tools to search what i really am here to do. And that is to find out about my life, and how and what i am and to make the best out of it. Because the day i die, i don’t want to be one of the constant TVcrap-watching-ignorant, working overtime, electing stupid presidents, being brainwashed from authority, and ect… basically running away from life’s essentials The question is = How to live life fully?
But instead we fight about who is right or wrong. Instead of starting to apply different tools and records the changes and effects it has upon you. Dont waste to much time…
Thanx all, and blessings for your contribution for the BS your spreading around. I hate you right now, i feel sad and anger and bitterness, but that is something you guys are projecting and something i personally inhibit. So this means i need to heal myself (this is great to reach higher awareness, with some tools Stephane uses, wich again are the same as alot others in the spiritual community uses). When i am not drawn to this place , i know that i healed myself and i can forgive myself beeing all of that you are. Speak ur truth, but please, leave ur personal dilemmas at home, because as ur world is ur mirror, all of u are exposing yourself. Everything that is written in here, is about exposing yourself (aware or not), including myself.
SO thanx for sharing all ur inner problems with us, and thanx for listening to my detailed problems also.
I guess we are all one.
Thanx to the people i love & hate (after some healing;)
And to those who are afraid of going insane about all the different teachings and paradigms out there. You are not alone… watch out so you dont burst your head in to flames… hihi
Hope to be healed, and not return here again
And to those who likes to be extra picky: i need to apologize my writings, im from Norway, and this is my 3. language.
This is fun!!!
Wow, the anger on here is very concerning. Certain people here have dedicated large amounts of time towards showing hate for another human being. Imagine wasting huge amounts of time with the fake motivation of ‘putting the world to rights’ but in fact, the true insecure motivation of expressing the hate that pervades their lives.
I turn the spotlight back on the haters. This blog says more about them than Stephane Hemon.
Personally, IG has given me a lot of value. I feel largely happy. Of course, issues come up but now I have a lot more personal power and awareness of how to move through these ‘problems’.
I’ve met Stephane in person twice and he has even hosted me in his old house at Costa Rica. He has real kindness and I was surprised at how easy it was to talk with him.
Undoubtedly, reading IG brings a lot more peace than reading the ‘wisdom’ on offer at this blog.
I’m comfortable in the knowledge that those considering whether IG is right for them will do so fairly and consider that there is more than the opinions of a few aggressive people.
Take care,
Mark (‘Sparky’ on old IG forum)
Hey Sparky, who is at fault here? Those angry at the lies, deception and hurt, or those defending a liar and hypocrite?
Sure, go ahead, try Steph’s stuff…decide for yourself… the HUNDREDS of angry people must all be liars, right, because Steph said so…and I hope you have a couple hundred bucks to risk…for a few lousy recordings of phone consultations (people PAY for that slop?). Just remember, as Step says… for entertainment purposes only!!! No refunds!! Alll sales are final! Have FUN!!! LOL!!!!
Sparky
as you said: why is there people who have dedicated SO MUCH (angry) energy towards Stephane ?
why isn’t there people who dedicated that much energy towards Mystery, Juggler, Brent, Steve Piccus, etc. ?
Maybe… JUST MAYBE… this is the sign that there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with the guy.
Maybe this is just a big joke from the Universe giving Stephane a taste of his own medicine.
Sparky & Sanders: you guys don’t have the monopoly over compassion, unconditional love, heart energy, higher consciousness, etc. (it seems like you think you do)
I know what integrity and lies are: that’s WHY I will not let Stephane get away with lies.
If you think that Integrity and Truth is what Stephane is teaching, then those things are NOT WORTH HAVING anymore !
Truth does not favor anyone. It doesn’t favor Ideagasms, me, you, or anyone else… not even Steph’s business agenda. Truth will not let itself get reframed or rationalized or NLP’ed by anyone !
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* At this time, 7pm EST, AJ is at 497 and dropping. Cal. TRUE 1000
* The main reason AJ left was due to feeling un-sexy and un-desirable. Cal. TRUE 1000
* Getting tattoed below level 600 will cause the person to drop, TRUE 1000
* Getting tattoed at 600+ will NOT cause the person to drop because mind-body identification has been transcended, TRUE 1000
* When we leave the body after a lifetime, we meet with our soul family and watch a film on a screen of our lifetime, and we see the progress and the mistakes, and use this info to help plan out the next reincarnation, TRUE
* When AJ will review this lifetime, she will be told that leaving IG and circle was a huge mistake and that she failed to tackle her karma of being able to embody Yin characteristics such as sexiness, TRUE 1000
AmyJo you are entering hell and dropping like a rock.
You were in 541 yesterday, and i wanted to get you to 570 because this is the level of Sainthood where one places their own desires aside in order to help the world, like mother theresa. You would then easily forget your selfish desires and gladly sacrifice yourself for IG.
The reason you were in 500’s was because I held you up. Without me you’re going to continue to fall back down again.
It’s now 7:15 pm, you are now 492… this is some FAST dropping.
*AmyJo is in denial, TRUE 1000
Your ego is doing it’s very best to justify positionalities, to justify leaving. But the ego knows only falsehood.
* Inviting AmyJo to come back into the circle is for the highest good of everyone, TRUE 1000
AmyJo you were so close and I was going to take you to 600 in one week.
Last night I took Ghita to 577, and her light is INCREDIBLE.
Last night I also learned how to literally be attracted to 500 pound women, even sexually attracted. The ONE NIGHT you decided to go is when i was literally IN LOVE with you and wanting to devour you sexually.
In the 600’s, I can now drink wine and do drugs, and it is like watching the body/mind get drunk WHILE I REMAIN SOBER. It’s *amazing* to be in 600’s and i know exactly how to take you there.
What are you going to do? get a stupid “job” and live in the world of tattoo’s, smoking pot, and more and more ego?
Choosing hell over heaven is literally insane AmyJo. You’ve touched 541, so you know how to get back there.
You will regret this decision, I assure you of that. COME HOME, you belong in Montreal with us. Open your heart again and you’ll see.
We’re just going to wait for you to come back. Our door and our heart’s are open to you, always.
Sincerely,
Stephane & Ghitano and Gretano and thousands of IG students who are counting on your return. We all love you immensely.
(I won’t even tell anyone that you left, it’s nobodys business.)
(If you call me on the phone, i can probably talk you back into the 540’s again. last night I talked Ghita into 577!)
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*Notice how much of a VAMP Stephane is in the previous post*
(much more than anyone who’s posted on his IG forum and that he banned)
Talk about P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N !!!!!
let’s put things in perspective:
for those who haven’t lived long enough to see that this is not the first time in history that cults like Ideagasms have been created (and it probably won’t be the last time)
I found those characteristics very silimar to IG
Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups:
-The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
-Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
- The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
- The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
- The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
- The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
- Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
(Steph encouraging Ghita, Greta, AmyJo to cut ties with family)
- The group is preoccupied with making money.
also, check out The False Guru Test
http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/ap-falsegurutest.html
you people are wacked! Obviously i am in big doubt over the “helltalk” about ideagasm, because you are talking about why no one is shit throwing mystery and others, while someone is doing it about ideagasm? I`ll tell you why, i think mystery is a nerd, but i dont want to go around and bitch about it. He talks like he figured all out, and sounds so secure about his thing when he speaks, but i only see a NERD speaking. David D is a good guy, i think he is not a really weirdo like mystery or thundercat for that matter.
When i started the pickup community, i thought that exchanging fluids with girls is the only thing i wanted to do, and now i see that as it is a betrayer against my own heart. Why the hell do I want to screw a hotbabe with full of neuroses? Because they are everywhere! And this is my innergame speaking. Obviously i am in doubt of what i have become, because my judgments are based alot upon the spiritual way (wich introduced me do ideagasm). Now either everything i am writing right now is totally insane, or you are. Actually what i still believe is that i am in the same level as you are still, and it seems that i cant pull out of this stupid forum. And how i know you are lame? Sure, that is me using my common sense! Snooze is trying to put things in perspective, and all some of you says is that it is reframing. Geeks. Yes I have degraded myself to insult you guys, because you remind me of my mother, bitching and wining, and doesnt get it that it is YOU, YOURSELF that is responsible for that. Thank GOD that i am not in as much in deep shit like you are, and the more i have seen the forum the stronger i felt on my “decoding” of my reality. Here is a decoding for ya’ : shut the f*** off, and chill out! Vent that hatred on something else soon willya! Because that is what you people do right? Either it is this or that. The hatred can not let you pass can it? Forgive and let go, and LEARN from whatever there is to learn. You canNOT let it go. But as i understand, people dont want to. Because we kinda enjoy wining over how hard life is and how this and that is not my fault. The world is my mirror. It always applies somehow. And what it implies for you (yes, you who is bitching and wining), that you are a sorryass wining child, who cannot look inside of urself and see what is happening. Always excusing yourself that it is the truth, and others need to know. Shut the hell up and stop ur wining (that is, I need to erase the bookmark to this page) Your inner child is standing up for yourself, and when that happens, BOY does it come out in the most embarrassing ways. Because you feel someone somehow has violated you and you need to put you foot down now. And on top of that you will feel xtra-crap because you know there is something in this biting inside that is wrong (while you “express the truth”, wich is to complain over something).
I hope you have not boiled your head to much when reading this.
Please understand that i dont want to make judgements about others, because it is like getting annoyed on a kid with a stupid f**cked hair walking on the other side of the street.
Why do i want to get angry and hatred because of that? (alarm: yes i am speaking of myself being at this forum)
Please what ever thoughts you have running in your head now, it is because of you need to let go, and bypass this. People writes here; “I am spiritual, but boy Stephane pisses me of”. You can not SAY that thing you try to act, these things will get noticed. And alot of you writing in here, are not twisted, but in pain for your inner child, and it is crying.
I see this all the time, it is just like watching a mother spoiling her kid away, and some of the things that happens regularly is that the mother cant stand it at times to times, and yells at the child in the most inappropriate ways and times! And i can see the child feel extremely unloved, and i can see the mother thinking “yes, i think i did the right thing, because i am just showing the respect and the truth she needs, although it hurts for my child” – BULLSHIT! She F”cked up totaly because whn she is emotional she cant see anymore and cant do the right thing!
And now who is mad? The one telling the mother that she is wrong, or that the child is spoiled? Or the one who is telling the mother that it is wrong?
kisses
benjamin I hope you get over your issues soon, and practice what you preach (i.e. “chill the f*** out”)
I might not like Thundercat, Mystery, David D, and the community in general…
you can talk as much as you want, but there is obviously some truth behind what everybody is saying against Stephane
not willing to face that is called denial
benjamin, Sparky, Sanders:
*Don’t kill the messenger just because what he says doesn’t please you.*
The only thing I have to say is that the information that Stephane has brought to my knowledge trough Ideagasms is amazing. I’ve become more balanced, got better self-esteem, feel better about my life, have much more success with women and people in general. I don’t hit or abuse women, probably lie less than most guys do and people want to be around me because I speak what is on my mind, have self-respect and make others feel safe and appreciated.
A couple of years ago.. I was overweight, stuttered, hadn’t had a girlfriend in years, felt a lot of shame, guilt and felt miserable.
Much because of Stephane (and some other “gurus”) my life has changed to be lightyears better than it was.
Stephane – thank you for the great work and keep up with it!
Many Blessings
“A Study Of Evil”
Published by Stephane on Saturday, September 27, 2008 Closed
I have been studying the book People Of The Lie, by Scott M. Peck (the guy who wrote The Road Less Traveled). I’d read those books before, in my late teens, but in those days I wasn’t ready for it. So I dismissed it due to the heavy Christian vibes (I come from a Christian family that also happens to be insane, so my views of Christianity were distorted at the time). But even though I dismissed the book, I guess you could say that a seed was planted.
A few short years later, I learned the frame about how “good” and “bad” (or “evil”) are merely ego-based judgments, and that in reality, there is only Love versus fear. And I really liked that frame, as it opened up a whole new (spiritual and “non-religious”) world to me.
Fast forward to today, I’ve now embraced religions again, since there is a lot of truth in all of them. After all, it is truth that I’m after. And I love what Gandhi said when asked if he was a Christian, he replied (paraphrased), “I am a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian… I am a follower of all religions”.
I also remember reading the book Never be Lied To Again, by David J. Lieberman.
And, it freaked me out.
I thought I was getting paranoid, because all of a sudden, the blinders were off and I could see the LIES everywhere, in everyone… my best friends… my girlfriends… and even my own mother.
Of course, last year I began an intense study into the nature of consciousness itself, and have poured myself in to anything I can find on the study of consciousness. And since it is a fact that currently, 85% of the human beings walking the earth today fall below “the integrity line”, I can see that I wasn’t paranoid when I learned about the science of lie detection. I was seeing the truth, but since I was still rejecting religion (and thus I was still rejecting any notion of God), I didn’t have the spiritual strength to keep my eyes THAT wide open.
But now that I’m into daily prayer, meditation, heavy contemplation, meditation, surrender, etc. my eyes are opening wider than ever and it feels like I’m truly starting to see, and remember. With 85% of the world being non-integrous, the works I previously studied from Peck and from Lieberman are no longer overwhelming.
So now I’ve been studying People Of The Lie again with a voracious appetite. Although I never liked the term “evil”, my eyes are now open to seeing it for what it is. Evil is simply LIVE spelled backwards. Anything that is anti-life (such as lies, the distortion of truth, hatred, killing, guilt, shame, pride, etc.) can technically be thought of as EVIL. They are energies which go against life itself. They are all energy fields which fall below “the integrity line”.
Since hell is any level of consciousness that falls below “the integrity line”, it seems to me that 85% of the human beings on this planet have incarnated from hell. And, they are still IN hell.
And since these are anti-life energies, all of this Christian stuff about how “Satan” and “Lucifer” are these “very bad souls” who apparently want to drag “good people” (integrous people) down into hell… all of this stuff is starting to become clear, and not only believable, but also self-evident. That’s what ‘energy vampires” do, they want you to feel stupid, inadequate, ugly, unloveable, guilty, ashamed… In other words, they wish to drag you into hell.
One thing that really struck me while reading People Of The Lie is that according to his definition of true evil (”messianic narcissism”), evil people themselves are so stuck in it that they will possibly never EVER face it. The denial is so strong, in fact, it’s the arrogant pride of denial itself that keeps them so deeply stuck in it.
While all this talk about “evil” sounds really dramatic, I think one look at the state of the world and all the people in it is just as dramatic. And today, I understand “luciferic” energy to be an energy field which distorts the truth for the purpose of selfish gain, and I understand “satanic” energy to be an energy field that is involved in killing, lust, and blood lust. And while I don’t think of “Satan” and “Lucifer” in terms of actual “people from the other side”, I’ve come to know of their existence as simply being low-level energy fields which are anti-life, as in “live” spelled backwards.
I can remember a time when I thought that “being spiritual” meant that I should ignore people’s ‘darkness’ and focus only on their light, on their beauty. I was in sympathy with those who choose to be in “hell”, and I thought I could help those who don’t want to be helped. How naive.
To me, in order to truly see the inner God in everyone, perhaps we first need to be able to see their darkness, instead of pretending it isn’t there and thinking that this denial makes us “spiritual” and “light”.
Much Love,
Stephane
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Ideagasms has taught me how to see everyone around me as “spiritually inferior” and isolate myself from the world.
Mark 56: “Maybe this man of yours was having a 3rd stage moment, and performed this ‘violence’ for reasons outside of you or him for that matter,rather it was for the good of existance ?”
When has violence, especially men being violent with women, ever been for the good of the world? Wow, what a statement to make, and a horrible way to try to make the one who was abused feel like she somehow ‘deserved it’. Geez. Steph has taught you how to master re-framing for sure.
And the crabs in the bucket analogy, isn’t it more like saving a drowning person, how if you let them hold onto you instead of the other way around, they have a tendency to try to climb on top of you and inadvertently push you under? It’s not intentional, it’s done out of fear of death for God’s sake.
If “Gandhi said when asked if he was a Christian, he replied (paraphrased), “I am a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian… I am a follower of all religions”.” he is a Unitarian Universalist, not a Christian. Look it up.
And the anger from the followers, who believe in the Green cheese moon, but know it is a lie, that is why you are so angry. You have already internally rectified this lie somehow and now others are asking you to do it AGAIN in the real world, and man that is a lot of work. If someone told me the sky was yellow, I may shake my head and walk away, because arguing with an obvious fact is not worth it.
Also, we all need to say our piece because Steph hurt a lot of us and abuse is propagated by silence. Secrets are poison especially for those of us who are trying to heal from the damage. To take the abused persons voice away is to become another abuser in their life.
If Steph had just been honest “I am just a guy who read a bunch of books and this is what worked for me” and had cited his sources the whole way, wow, he would have so much integrity there would be no issues here. But no, he took credit for all of it, showing a whole lot of pride and feeding his giant ego in front of everyone. What a hypocrite.
I think he really has a personality disorder which is why he has so much room in that brain of his for all this mind game bullshit, the void where emotions normally reside offers up a lot of space . . . Think about it, how much time and energy could a normal person put into all this refraining and brainwashing? None.
I think the ‘evils’ of the world could begin to be healed if we begin to heal our world. To do this we could all start by trying a raw food diet (really lowering the ecological impact of our existence) and see how much anger and anxiety and health problems you loose and then, you won’t have to do all these mental gymnastics to feel good and be good in the world.
And let me add to those of you who are his followers. If he really did teach compassion and unconditional love, your words would not be filled with hate and spite. You would be able to feel for us and say sorry for the wrongs done to us even if they were not related to something you did, but you would do this automatically anyway because you would be overflowing with love and not anger.
“Cracking The Male/Female Code, Volume 1″
Published by Stephane on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 Closed
In case you haven’t heard, ideaGasms.net is entering a new phase, as well as pioneering THE NEXT LEVEL in Pickup, Dating, S E X, and Relationship Consciousness.
For several years now, I’ve been teaching guys how to master their love life’s in the following
key areas:
* “Inner Game” (shyness-into-confidence, self-respect)
* “Pickup” (approaching a woman for the first time)
* “Escalation” (getting physical with a woman)
* Dating
* Relationship management
* S E X (0rgasm training, impotence, shooting-too-fast)
Now, over the last few months, I have personally undergone a major paradigm shift.
I do mean MAJOR!!
And this paradigm shift has enabled me to narrow in on the PRECISE solution to literally ALL of the above Dating, S E X, and Relationship issues that men and women face today.
In fact, this paradigm shift has been so damn profound that I HAVE LITERALLY REMOVED ALL OF MY PREVIOUS PROGRAMS.
That’s right — ALL of my previous materials are GONE…
* Female Orgasm Mastery? GONE.
* The Seven Chakras? GONE.
* The GTP? GONE.
* The BGTP? GONE.
* Intro To IG Consciousness? GONE.
So, WHY have I done this?
Like I said, this paradigm shift has been so deeply profound that it just doesn’t make any SENSE for me to offer my older stuff anymore… My new stuff is THAT good.
Those old programs have served their purpose. They got us here, and they were damn useful. I enjoyed making them, and I learned a lot from running ideaGasms over the last few years, while I perfected and upgraded what was shared in those old recordings in my personal life.
But now it’s time for ALL of us to move to the next level:
I have been able to narrow in on the EXACT ISSUES that men and women NEED TO KNOW in order to truly succeed on the deepest levels in Pickup, Dating, Escalation, S E X, and even Relationships in general.
My brand-new series, Cracking The Male/Female Code is KILLER, and I think the title speaks for itself:
Cracking The Male/Female Code, Volume 1.
That might sound like just another “marketing”, sensationalist title, but in reality, THE CODE IS BEING CRACKED, LITERALLY. It’s the leading edge in Dating and Relationship “technologies”.
I’m happy to see that people are liking it so much, and personally I feel that this is the best I have ever done, even surpassing what I thought I would EVER do. I have learned so much over the last few years that it astounds me. We’re very blessed to be able to have access to this kind of information.
You see, as it turns out, A LITERAL 85% of the human beings currently walking the earth today are in fact, “People of the Lie”. In other words, if you go out and meet 85 people, only 15 of those people ARE ACTUALLY HONEST.
Woah.
What’s more, the other 85% are not only dishonest with others, they are even dishonest with themselves. These people don’t just tell lies and deceive others — they’re actually PROUD of their ability to do so.
They don’t just “enjoy lying”, they literally HATE truth, HATE love, HATE others, HATE themselves, and worst of all they HATE God.
And — they don’t even REALIZE it, due to being in a state of DENIAL, which is a perpetual state of lies. “One lie begets another”, as the saying goes.
So this means that on average, 85% of what we hear from others including our parents, teachers, politicians, “TeeVee”, internet, and so on IS FALSE.
Falsehood reigns supreme in this culture, which is why when you look around, people are suffering so much. I myself never realized the EXTENT of all this non-integrity, but consider the following fact:
In the last century alone, we have killed over 100 MILLION of our own fellow human beings in the various wars. That’s a million murders A YEAR.
Now, the 85% of non-integrous people represent the problem, and the other 15% of honest human being represent the solution.
Does this mean that we should “wage war” on dishonesty?
No, absolutely not.
The trick is to become AWARE of who’s who in the world, and simply choose to share our quality time with the upper 15%, allowing the other 85% to live out their karmic destiny. God doesn’t need our help.
I guess you can see where I’m going with this!
In order to succeed in today’s world of Dating, S E X, and Relationships, it is *imperative* for us to know if the people we’re dating and loving are, at the very least, HONEST with us.
Failure to make this crucial distinction is THE PROBLEM, because what “attraction techniques” do you really need if you’re an honest person dating another honest person?
NONE.
When honest people find each other, everything begins to fall into place. Attraction is NATURAL, and doesn’t need to be forced or controlled in any way. Truth and Love go hand in hand, in fact they seem to be the same energy, in the end.
Now, I have spent the last 5 years of my life studying things like “lie detection”, and you may recall that I have talked quite a bit about “Energy Vampires” in some of my newsletters over the years.
These are painful, difficult things to learn, because we tend to project ourselves onto other people. In other words, if YOU are an honest person, you might naively think that everyone else is the same. We tend to
look the other way and to wear rose-colored glasses.
One issue that got me into all kinds of trouble was SYMPATHY.
I was naively “in sympathy” with these people, thinking they could somehow be helped. But in the end, people must learn to help themselves, they must find the courage within to choose integrity.
I found myself surrounded by people who would PRETEND to want my “help”, but that too was just a lie. It was a lie they told me, and sadly, it was a lie they even told themselves. THAT is how STUCK 85% of the known world is.
The best way to help others is to leave them be, and focus on ourselves, as well as on those remaining 15% of people who truly want to learn things for the right reasons.
I’ve been working around-the-clock to increase my awareness about all of this, and the results have been absolutely mind-blowing, both personally and professionally.
For a few years, I was so confused and so lost that I even went so far as to build relationships with MULTIPLE WOMEN. I used to live with several women, and I became quite known for this. It was a pretty intense (and downright crazy) lifestyle, but in the end I found that my ability to really SEE which women are integrous
and which women ARE NOT integrous has measurably increased over the last few years.
I don’t do “Circle” relationships anymore, they have served their purpose for me personally. I learned what I was meant to learn from that kind of relationship dynamic.
Welcome to the NEW ideaGasms.
The first and foremost thing I will be teaching and sharing from now on has to do with Integrity, Vamp Detection, Lie Detection, and the ability to know who is integrous, and who isn’t.
Without this knowledge, there is very little hope in succeeding in the areas of Dating and Relationships.
Check out Volume 1 of my BRAND-NEW, progressive series, Cracking The Male/Female Code. It is for people who want the TRUTH about Pickup, Dating, Sex, and Relationships:
> Cracking The Male/Female Code VOLUME 1 is here!
Notes: $97. Since Volume 1 is a phone consultation recording, the sound is decent, but not studio quality. All sales are final. Thank you.
Thanks for seeking Truth, and God Bless you.
TESTIMONIALS
“Hey Stephane, Just wanted to thank you again for the consult we did the other night…
The dust is settling a little bit and whilst I know I still have a lot still to learn on this relationship path I can honestly say that for some reason I feel absolutely great. Any remaining sadness or ’self beatings’ I’d been giving myself over the last week or so I’ve completely let go of, now that I’ve had chance to reflect on what you said (especially around my specific interactions with the girl I was telling you about). It made me realize and reminded me what I intuitively already knew, in as much as that there isn’t actually anything ‘wrong with me’ as such, it’s not so much my personal failings or my ‘lack of game’ just my blindness to the warning signs that I was being treated with less than equal honesty and respect. Thanks man.”
-Stephen
“I’d like to thank you for Volume 1 of Cracking The Male/Female Code. I just finished listening to it and am blown away by the new paradigm. You made so many things so clear… the madonna/whore complex, the whole porn issue, and just the overall Truth about Honesty. I felt unbelievably energized listening to your conversation with Stephen, “not putting up with crap” is now becoming very clear to me.”
-Chris Mack
“Dear Stephane, I stopped listening to your recording after about 41 min…because I started crying. Then I looked into the mirror for a bit, into my eyes, and cried some more. It was deep, relieving and satisfying. I started feeling sorry for myself for going through this sht the last years, then I stopped that and now I feel like Im awake. I feel like Im high and I haven’t blazed since like 6:00 lol. I feel like everythings melting away…like I’ve always been fine. Thank you. Gonna listen to more in a bit, and I’ll let you know how that goes, haha.”
-Dave S.
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It’s all right there, he is teaching you to judge others negatively and to fear them, which is the exact opposite of what unconditional love and compassion mean. His teachings don’t even fit the dictionary definitions for unconditional love and compassion. What, is he going to re-frame the entire freakin’ English dictionary now so that his teaching do jive with the definitions? Christ what a nut job.
The only reason I get fear when i am reading all, is that i give the power to you guys to give me fear and doubt. I took al of you seriously at moments, sure i did! But everytime i read something, ALWAYS you let yourself seen through – EXPOSED yourself! ALWAYS!!!
So what does this mean? That there are a bunch of people with a lot of fear that has not overcame their fear. Love yourself and have compassion, just as i learned to finaly do now from this forum (i think).
I get fear inside of me (pain in sol-plex) for caring what a bunch of fearfull people tells me about how F***ED up the guy i came to discover the spiritual paradigm. That means, how evil the guy that showed me the spiritual world really is. At first i really got freaked out. And it still does. But after thinking (healing) I cant leave out the fact that he is not teaching ANYTHING ELSE that the “common spiritual world” tells us. ANYTHING AT ALL!!!
So the next face for me is that i am in a hate full state of people messing up with my reality because of their own distortion and paranoia, and incapable of moving on after an incident. So all this gets projected into me fear, and just feeds it! Shit!!!
And now I am in the stage where i understand that all of this FEAR and DOUBT is inhibited in me, and THAT is the reason i am in here and getting involved in this “shitthrowing”.
I have no more (not much at least) doubt in me anymore, and i would like to tell the people to put their foolish pride and let it go. Some of you are speaking that “the followers” is full of hate. Does this really imply hate? You know that if you are hatefull that hate is the only thing you see? Im just saying whatever happend get over it and accept the faith now. You are just after to see if he or she admits the problem. Who`s right game, power game.
Maybe Steph has gone insane!? Especially with his new paradigm! But he is still speaking of the same shit that the buddhists and Zen and tantric yoga ect teaches!
Yeah he has this view that 85% are bellow up in this world. If you do not agree, let it go. I myself personally am very sceptical about that worldview, but so far nothing he spoke of has messed me up. Like some others writes here, their life has improved, does that mean that it is a lie? No. Not in my book. and some of you people says that he does not teach unconditional love. Do you know that what he teaches is default and normal stuff that the spiritual world teaches? Did you know that? sorry for repeating but, DID YOU KNOW THAT? Again; DID YOU KNOW THAT? (sorry for repeating but i know that you are in denial, then you actually go blind for what is written, so, not to repeat again but, do you know that what he teaches is normal in the community?, and please, I know that you brain will say that “yeah but, not EVERYTHING is the same.” and i would say, sure its not, we are all different.)
You people have mistakenly punished the action of the one speaking of the wisdom. (and for the one speaking the wisdom, must also practice it, because it will show if he is practicing or not)
The problem is that you guys only see a cloud. I have luckily evolved to be able to break down that cloud and pick up the useful stuff. And the stuff that is there, I have checked ALOT of others book which he himself has suggested, and i myself have choosen in amazon. There are lots of books behind my back (physically) as i write, and alot of frustration HOW im gonna get through them. And what i come to conclude is that all of the books speaks of the same! It doesnt matter what you read. Everything is the same.
As Joe Tex (one of my favorite heart-centered musicians) says
“Don’t make them pay for your mistakes.”
Kisses
I had to re-post it because of the speeling errors i have. Sorry guys, im norwegian…
And if you find anything more spellingsfault, I dont really dont care
The only reason I get fear when i am reading all of the written in this forum, is that i give the power to you guys to give me fear and doubt. I took al of you seriously at moments, sure i did! But everytime i read something, you ALWAYS let yourself seen through – EXPOSED yourself! ALWAYS!!!
So what does this mean? That there are a bunch of people with a lot of fear that has not overcomed their own fear.
Love yourself and have compassion, just as i learned to finally do now from this forum (i think).
I get fear inside of me (pain in sol-plex) for caring what a bunch of fearfull people tells me about how F***ED up the guy i came to discover the spiritual paradigm. That means, how evil the guy that showed me the spiritual world really is. At first i really got freaked out. And I still do. But after thinking (healing) I cant leave out the fact that he is not teaching ANYTHING ELSE that the “common spiritual world” tells us. ANYTHING AT ALL!!!
So the next face for me is that i am in a hatefull state where people mess up my reality because of their own distortion and paranoia, and incapable of moving on after an incident. So all this gets projected into me with fear, and just feeds it! Shit!!!
And now I am in the stage where i understand that all of this FEAR and DOUBT is inhibited in me, and THAT is the reason i am in here and getting involved in this “shitthrowing”.
I have no more (not much at least) doubt in me anymore, and i would like to tell the people to put their foolish pride away and let it go. Some of you are speaking that “the followers” is full of hate. Does this really imply hate? You know that if you are hatefull that hate is the only thing you see? Im just saying whatever happend; get over it and accept the faith now. You are just after to see if he or she admits the problem. Who`s right game, power game.
Maybe Steph has gone insane!? Especially with his new paradigm! But he is still speaking of the same shit that the buddhists and Zen and tantric yoga ect teaches!
Yeah he has this view that 85% are bellow integrity line in this world. If you do not agree, let it go. I myself personally am very sceptical about that worldview, but so far nothing he spoke of has messed me up. Like some other writes here, their life has improved, does that mean that it is a lie? No. Not in my book. and some of you people says that he does not teach unconditional love. Do you know that what he teaches is default and normal stuff that the spiritual world teaches? Did you know that? sorry for repeating but, DID YOU KNOW THAT? Again; DID YOU KNOW THAT? (sorry for repeating but i know that you are in denial, then you actually go blind for what is written, so, not to repeat again but, do you know that what he teaches is normal in the community?, and please, I know that you brain will say that “yeah but, not EVERYTHING is the same.” and i would say, sure its not all the same, we are all different. and some of you say that, “yeah, but he has not put down the footnotes about the source” I say; Bad boy!!!! but it still changed my life to the better)
You people have mistakenly punished the action of the one speaking of the wisdom. (and for the one speaking the wisdom, must also practice it, because it will show if he is practicing or not)
The problem is that you guys only see a cloud. I have luckily evolved to be able to break down that cloud and pick up the useful stuff. And the stuff that is there, I have checked ALOT of others book which he himself has suggested, and i myself have choosen in amazon. There are lots of books behind my back (physically) as i write, and alot of frustration HOW im gonna get through them. And what i come to conclude is that all of the books speaks of the same! It doesnt matter what you read. Everything is the same.
As Joe Tex (one of my favorite heart-centered musicians) says
“Don’t make you children pay for your mistakes.”
Kisses
“IG Has A Confession To Make…”
Published by Stephane on Sunday, November 30, 2008 Closed
This is both Greta and Stephane posting; just a few things
you might want to know about us:
There are times in our life (and probably in previous
lifetimes) when we have been stupid, wrong, condescending,
immoral, lustful, narcissistic, ugly, non-integrous, needy,
controlling, mistaken, humiliated, ill, shameful, dirty,
miserable, despising, vindictive, evil, guilty, stoned,
drunk, high, blaming, naughty, destructive, bragging,
self-aggrandizing, fat, skinny, “stumpy-ish”, desperate,
apathetic, unreasonable, illogical, confused, egotistical,
childish, bad-tempered, bitchy, hopeless, condemning,
disdainful, tragic, victimized, victimizing, grieving,
regretful, despondent, withdrawn, worried,
“cult-leader-ish”, depressed, despondent, crude, lude,
incapable, unwilling, coarse, haughty, pessimistic,
skeptical, hurt, self-pitying, cynical, deceitful, anxious,
fearful, cold, gossiping, frightening, punitive,
controlling, violent, aggressive, aloof, “poor-me”,
interrogating, bullying, adversarial, selfish, angry,
hateful, unhappy, complacent, passive-aggressive,
undeserving, unworthy, stuck, unforgiving, persuasive,
denying, disappointing, desirous, craving, uncaring,
addicted, enslaved, antagonistic, vengeful, indifferent,
demanding, dishonest, proud, scornful, self-inflated,
unloving, sad, totally unloveable, and sometimes maybe
probably perhaps definitely even *worse* than all of that.
Yeah, we said it.
And you know what?
God STILL loves us!
LOL.
Please forgive our “sins” and pray for our souls?
Actually, let’s make it an official Prayer:
***We hereby ask for the totality of mankind as well as
every soul in Existence including God to please forgive us
for all of the sins we’ve made in the past, present, and
future. Thy Will Be Done. Amen. Kyrie Eleison. Alleluia.
Shalom. Namaste! Salaam Alaykum! Gloria in Exclesis Deo!***
Heil Hitler!
…OOOOPS… We got carried away with that prayer. ^_^
Ok, while we’re at it, let’s forgive Hitler too. After
all, according to George Carlin, he only had one ball.
(Lest you are worried that perhaps you have also sinned
[rough translation: to make a mistake out of the inherent
limitations and ignorance of the human ego/mind], the fact
that you’re even capable of admitting this and sincerely
asking for God’s forgiveness at all suggests that
you’re in the top 15% of integrous people walking the earth
today. You see, apparently, non-integrous people are
unwilling to admit wrongdoings to themselves and others,
such as a serious alcoholic who refuses to admit there is a
problem, or think of someone who nurses a grudge for an
entire lifetime, or someone who won’t admit they’re wrong
when there is tons of evidence to support the contrary, or
someone who wallows around in guilt. Perhaps this is why
Jesus said, “The Truth shall set you free”?)
So anyway, we hope this “news” about us doesn’t ruffle too
many feathers… if you’re disappointed to learn this about
us, just know that there is an unsubscribe link at the
bottom, and if by any chance you’d like to stay on the
list, we are both looking forward to sharing even MORE
about ourselves in the near future.
> Commercial time: Transcend Approach Anxiety using our
materials – caveat: not for the faint-of-heart:
http://www.ideagasms.net/the-death-of-approach-anxiety
Alright, see you in a couple days.
Blessings,
Stephane & Greta
PS – If you think THIS was nuts, wait ’till you see what
our wedding vows looked like.
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also add:
unintegrous
manipulative
lying
to the list
This email reminds me of an interesting situation I’ve noticed in the dating world:
When a girlfriend cheats on her Nice Guy boyfriend and if he finds out the truth, gets angry and decides to break-up with her, almost every time, she will apologize profusely, hoping that he’ll accept her back.
But what’s her REAL motive?
To gain his respect back?
Or because she fears no longer having access to his “time” and “money” or “losing face” when the truth inevitably gets out to all her friends and associates?
Now, what I find particularily interesting about this situation is this:
9 times out of 10, if the guy does forgive her and does accept her back, she will not just cheat on him again… but she will do it much more adamantly!
It actually seems as if by him accepting her back, he’s demonstrated to her how much of a “sucker” he is.
In fact, it almost seems like she sees his forgiveness like permission to use apologies to excuse any disrespectful or poor behavior she throws his way in the future.
So, I wonder:
Is this email that 1 in 10… or just a 1 in the remaining 9?
Jay
thank you stephane (IG) for,
helping me relize im not needy,
helping me reilize my self worth,
helping me be a better man,
be a better boyfriend,
be a better speaker and writer,
get in touch with my purpose,
see the world as a beutifull adventure as apposted to a difficult burdon,
thank you for making the gtp,
thank you for answering my post about me sex difficulties,
thank you for introducing me to Chakras.
Anyway i enjoy IG,
im sorry for the people who feel hurt,
im sorry for stephane feeling thier hurt,
but i wanted to share my little bit of positive, again and for the lasttime.
Quote from Steph in one of the above posts about “people of the lie”:
“They don’t just “enjoy lying”, they literally HATE truth, HATE love, HATE others, HATE themselves, and worst of all they HATE God.”
Quote from George W. Bush:
“Why do they [terrorists] hate us?’ They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically elected government. (…) They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other. “
Anybody with half a brain will realize that Stephane is obviously a guy who likes to categorize and generalize and use lazy mental-shortcuts and overly-simplistic rules so he can feel like he understands the world.
Why would you let such an “extremist” teach you how to live your life ?
HONESTLY !
The amount of newsletters that this guy pumps out week after week.
There is a certain level where one is too dumb to know that he doesn’t know.
It is said that “the one who knows doesn’t speak”
That is very true.
If you just realize that Stephane never finished his high-school, it becomes easy to understand why he will write such idiotic posts about “superman pills” and will believe anything like bio-photon water, or that new-age crap.
Come on !!!!
My guru is a trailer trash guy from Montreal who never finished his high-school, he taught me so many things about Ascension, turning led into gold, about nano-pills that will cure HIV and cancer, about calibrations, and how to prove that TylerDurder is gay using a pendulum…
Seriously guys !!!!
Stephane is right. People are stupid and will pay anything to get out of their inability to pickup girls for sex. This site and everyone you recommend here are taking advantage of these same people. $5000+ weekend seminars, $250 scanned .pdf downloads that were poorly scanned and full of typos, etc. What a bunch of B.S.
If you’re one of the stupid, get smart and “steal” this crap off the internet with a file sharing program. Add the keyword “torrent” to your internet search and it won’t take long.
“Ideagasms has taught me how to see everyone around me as “spiritually inferior” and isolate myself from the world.” That’s your ego’s pride.
If anyone wants to have a reasonable discussion, start up a post on the ex-IG forum and we’ll cut through all of the bullshit and get to the Truth.
After reading Steph’s latest post where he admits his re-framed foibles to make him look like the victim again. He apologizes for his boatload of crap.. note he doesn’t repent . Saying you’re sorry ..doesnt’ make it all go away. A person who has committed a crime,,for intentionally poisoning someone.. does he tell the victim ..oh so sorry? If he wanted to come come clean and get on the road of retribution he should pay back all the people he scammed,pay royalties to the people he has plagiarized and then pay back all the people he “poisoned” with his criminal abuse of people thinking they we’re getting helped. His site states for entertainment purposes,but when you counsel over the phone one on one,In Canada this is called therapy..not for shits and giggles. Lawyers would have a field day over tihs.
This is not kindergarten anymore.Kiss the hurt and it’ll be all right. Steph grow up and take your pill like a man, get therapy for yourself before your spend yourl ife thinking your helping the world.
It’s basic public relations at work here. When a celebrity does something that looks bad (doing drugs being the biggest issue) the first step is to cover it up. One way to do this is threatening a lawsuit, questioning the credibility of the person wanting to expose the truth or black mailing the other person.
If it becomes too difficult to contain the truth (drug use) then the celebrity reveals what they have been doing. It’s best if the celebrity has had an abusive relationship with their parents because it plays on the sympathy of the public. The celebrity apologize, check into rehab and check out in two weeks. Image problem is solved.
Stephane is doing just this to protect his image. He somewhat apologizes then attacks/questions the credibility of the “haters.”
I feel sorry for his loyal followers. I don’t know what Stephane would have to do for them to see what is going on. They have reframed his drug use, excessive alcohol consumption, having massive debt despite making 20,000+ a month and him buying a lot of prostitutes.
wrong name, sorry
hihi Alex…. What you wrote was very funny. I like you! And your kinda cute with your embarrasing comments
PS: if any of you in here “against Steph” would actually practice this spiritual stuff, you would know that to be a “follower” is wrong. You shall be your own guru. I guess like many others, I too have fallen into the trap of admiring to much. And then getting this student-guru relationship. It is not healthy anyways. I still absorb what Steph teaches, and all of you boys feeling sorry for yourself in here, go get a room and cry on your own. And when you speak of the teachings of him, please give a tinybittylittle sign that you at least get it.
Just like the guy writing: “Ideagasms has taught me how to see everyone around me as “spiritually inferior” and isolate myself from the world.” Like Sanders comments, it is your pride man! No one teaches that. And all sort of comments that indicate some error people have done. GET IT RIGHT WILL YA!!!
Again, what he teaches is normal stuff in the spiritual path. His actions are non of my business, really. The point is not to BECOME him. huuu.. what a relief to know that im not that addicted to someone externally like all of you that are crying in here are. Just like Alex says; “The celebrity”. I know that he is speaking of like in a example, but still. Why are we to admire celebritys this much. Just absorb the love and teachings. And dissaprove the rest.
Thanks again guys! Seems that you boys are teaching me alot of new stuff about myself all the time
And all of you who feel rejected and unloved or whatever feels it went very wrong, like Sanders says, please open a new forum and discuss this. It does not help to find evidence about how f***ked up you or anyone else is or have become.
What is the point with all of this? Get some kind of revenge?
Dont get me wrong, i love you and everyone, at least i try to. Please, stop this shitthrowing, and learn to let it go.
Love and kisses & PEACE
Benjamin (norway)
Hi there,
I read his newsletter for a few years, intrigued by some interesting findings and opinions. Mostly I read it for entertaining, but lately I think from the realise of the BGTP I haven’t even found it entertaining anymore. He just reads a book and then he knows and understands everything and projects all his own insecurities on everyone. You have to have some moral backup to judge everything and everybody or you are just an hypocrite lier with double standars.
He might have been in on a spiritual path at some time, but maybe his abandonment issues are just too strong to handle (his father leaving him and other stuff). Now all his supposedly existing chakras are so closed as its just possible. The base chacra, the red one, talks about being good to your physical body. That is the absolute basic stuff, but he is into drug and alcohol abuse, getting fat and so on. So basically there is just a lot of babbling and word but no substance left. One more “guru” gone insane, he said it rightly, chacras/ energy are not to be taken lightly, better to just balance them than trying to open them wildly. Just my opinion.
PD opening the heart is basically just listening to your conscience, not that hard eventually
I don’t see anything inherently wrong in exposing a teacher/instructor/guru who is a hypocrite and doesn’t practice what he preaches. . . who says one thing and does the opposite, and does not have the history, credentials or integrity he claims.
Its that simple.
It isn’t about revenge.
Its about informing people.
If you don’t like it, then show how the information is wrong.
If you can’t, then quit whining and get over it.
Wow absolutely gobsmacked after all this!!
I had first heard of him through the infamous DD interview in 05 first thought he was arrogant and a bit weird but did say some fascinating stuff I was on his mailing list and eventually grew more and more into his stuff although not entirely agreeing with everything he said.
I actually only bought the GTP and Into to Ideagasms Consciousness 3 months ago and found it to be very good overall although again didnt quite agree with everything and often thought he contradicts himself. i.e saying he has compassion and doesnt judge but does slate and put a lot of people down?!
The most fascinating part for me was the “Love Is All You need” video I kept watching and watching that over. Just seemed that was the key . The whole not caring you can shit on me laugh at me in bed with 10 other guys but I still love you thing seemed to be such a freeing attitude to have. Im sure some of us on here could do with applying that….
It is very difficult now to know whether to study his stuff anymore now. I mean he did always say “Be your own guru” plus DDA has always advised never to “buy too much into one theory”. This seems to be dead on now after all this.
I guess the conclusion really here is that each and every one of us is unique and we all resonate with different things from different teachers at different times. At the end of the day every PUA iv heard from has had at least one useful piece of advice (some more than others) and its probably best to focus on that and just discard stuff that you dont agree/resonate with.
Fascinating stuff and all this if anything has taught me a very valuable lesson. As for Stephane, he is what he is…we can choose to be affected by this dark side or focus on the good stuff he did actually produce once.
Looking forward to hearing more from Ghita and Amy Jo. Go girlfriends!
Peace y’all
MF – London
Why do you PUA community guys keep bashing each other? No doubt Stephane has some interesting and valuable material, as does Ross and Thundercat and RSD and many others. Why claim that certain ideas are the best and some other guy’s ideas are crap, when realistically, nether of those statements can be completely true. Think of any great idea or philosophy or discipline that has changed millions of lives for the better, whatever it is… That material surely has inconsistencies and its authors are surely full of crap at least sometimes. Bashing does not elevate anyone, and it usually harms the reputation of the basher more than it does the bashee.
Dude! It is way more effective to focus on yourself and your own material than to concern yourself about what someone else is saying or doing!
I’ll be the first to point out that this comment disobeys its own advice, and that its author is probably full of crap.
To Whom it May Concern,
I support Stephane Hemon & ideaGasms.
My commitment is to the truth, all-ways. Until the day when I feel, trust and know that ideaGasms does not support me in that commitment then I shall go elsewhere peacefully and with gratitude.
That days is yet to arrive, so that is why I support Stephane Hemon & ideaGasms.
Best,
A M Wills
It seems clear to me that Stephane is a compulsive liar. Perhaps that’s why his latest obsession is with “integrity” and “people of the lie”.
There’s the little inconsistencies (the contradictions in his recollections of his childhood), the exaggerations (his field reports and exaggerated claims of research), the pointless narcissistic fantasies (winning a national skateboarding competition), the spiritual fantasies (being “enlightened”, meditating, his “tasting enlightenment experience which was actually a bad ecstasy comedown), the malicious li