Podcast 6: Thundercat Vs. Stephane
July 9, 2008 by Thundercat
Filed under Podcasts
Okay, yesterday I posted the first part of my critique of Barry Kirkey’s interview with Stephane. Admittedly, it was not the best Podcast I ever made (considering I’ve only made 6 so far!). A lot of people don’t seem to agree with my stance on polyamoury. And you know what? That’s okay! You guys believe what makes you happy.
Today’s podcast is light on the preaching, and heavy on the shit talking. I basically comb through the interview Barry did and call Stephane out on all his lies.
Just a warning for you guys before you listen to this podcast:
1. It’s LONG! 2 hours. If you don’t care about Stephane, don’t bother listening to it.
2. There’s a lot of "community gossip" in it, so if you don’t care about that stuff, don’t bother listening to it either.
3. Some people might consider it to be a "negative rant." This is the danger in focusing so much time and energy on BAD PEOPLE, that by proxy, you can come off as sounding negative just by taking them to task. If you guy don’t want to be exposed to some negative vibes, please DON’T LISTEN TO THE PODCAST.
I’m not a negative person, but I just feel that Stephaker unloaded such a massive amount of lies and bullshit that someone needed to call his ass out on this stuff.
After re-listening to the podcast myself, I realize there are parts in it where I get passionate and sound angry – mostly because people like Stephaker ANNOY me. But I learned from this experience, I won’t be doing a podcast like this one again, because it’s a real drain on my energy, and I shouldn’t be focusing so much of my time and attention on morons like this.
Regardless – for anyone out there interested in learning from Stephaker, please, LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST. It’ll help give you a better idea of who you’re giving your money to.
Click Here To Download This Podcast
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And dude one more thing,
“…is a basic right in our society.”
PLEASE please be careful – and here i shouldnt even be giving advice coz u never asked for it, but i worry for anyone else reading thinking about this, so bare with me – please be careful not to wrap or base your moral code too tightly on what is currently society’s rules or rights.
Society is constantly changing, ‘evolving’, and laws are constantly changing.
There must be some other way or some other ‘thing’ that we can base our morals and values on…
..Otherwise, we’ll fall victim to being the blind following the blind…
..Examples being:
Imagine for a second you were ADAMANT on the rules of law being CORRECT and right BEFORE the following:
- Women’s liberation: 20th Century.
- Civil Rights movement: 20th Century.
- Habeas Corpus: 12th Century & earlier
- Democracy “no taxation without representation: 5th century BC Greece.
- Freedom of Assembly
- Freedom of Religion
- Freedom of Speech
- Freedom of Press
- Countless others at various times.
- The ABOLITION of SLAVERY & the IDEA of SLAVERY: 18th & 19th Century.
Would suck to see you make the same case about slavery BEFORE society EVENTUALLY allowed what was right to get through its ‘laws’
Sure, laws and society evolve. The current legal standard is that even if there is no intent to carry it out, you can’t broadcast something electronically that would
“cause that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family’s safety”
This seems like a reasonable compromise between individual safety and freedom of expression.
This is not the only example of Thundercat’s homicidal ramblings. 1:14:30 into the podcast, we hear the following:
“The fact that this girl did what she did to Stephaker…I’m not telling you guys
what she did, I wouldn’t want to put it out there for everyone to know about it,
but it was bad. If a girl did that to me- you know- I’d be arrested, the police would be asking me where I hid the body.”
In all the community shows that I have listened to, this is the only time that I have heard a so-called guru joke about violence crime towards women. And he has the gall to call Ross Jeffries creepy…
Thundercat should start roaring and firing shotguns during his podcasts.
Fat fuck deserves to be beaten down. Ross, Tyler, Stephane, won’t one of you command a couple of your cult-minions to jump the fatty? You know what he looks like. You know where he sarges. Get to it. Do a good deed this year. Break his jaw, cut out his tongue, and replace it with a nice long cock-shaped shit. From a BLACK MAN!
J/k. But he needs a taste of his own inciting. I’ve never seen him put anything so psycho *in writing*—does seeing what he’s saying before he sends it allow him to realize how terrible he looks? But once he gets to running his mouth, the real little psycho-bitch inside comes out. He needs serious psychiatric help,—he should go see a good therapist, like Ross Jeffries.
holy hell, you need to deal with some of you anger dude…. maybe therapy???
I am a customer giving a review of the seduction Gurus outthere..
So far Stay comletely away from Trucor and Mark Cunningham…
He is a very Dangerous Individual… Psychologically and otherwise…
I met him in person also most of his students are very disturbed individuals…
He bragged at a seminar about getting one of his students under somnambulism to break all his taboos… He has tried to give me homosexual commands which didnt work but creeped me out… this student ranted the day after in bangkok thailand that he slept with two female hookers, two Transvestites and two gay male prostitutes…
Theres a reason why he has Seminars in Bangkok…
Along with giving negative hidden suggestions to self sabatoge yourself and keep coming back to him…
I was out the first night with one of his most loyal Followers John Strohm who which I felt uncomfortable with after he was making out with Transsexuals…. we left and I sayed away from him since…
I also reccomend to stay way from Ross jeffries. He is a very deeply troubled person with issues of inferiority and Control… He abuses NLP,Magick and Hypnosis and hurts his students unknowingly…
He is a passive aggressive Bully and I second guess his successes I have also found out that alot of his claims are false and or Bow tied…
I do Recommend Speed Seduction and I dont even like the fact of listening to his voice can be dangerous but for most of all his if you really want to learn Speed Seduction learn it from the TV set.
The Ross on tv and the real Ross are two different people…
I had dinner with him two weeks ago I was appreciated that he invited me… Until I got there, he couldnt stop staring at me and he asked one of the students if someone was watching him from behind, he even got paraniod of a pregnant lady like she was going to kill him!!!
I didnt know whether to stay or call the men in white I didnt know whether he was going to flip out or not…
As we got out he rants and obsesses about everything negative about vacaville, I used to live there theres tons of stuff to do. I mean for a Shinzen Young student and teacher of energy and all this mad inner game.. He a very negative messed up person
and how the Umpteenth person in his life is out to get him and its amazing that every person out there that has had some relationship with him ends up in bad blood with him…
so we sit down and this motherfucker (RJ) has no manners and has the gall to tell everyone else how to eat and have manners..
I will give him this he gave me a good consultation…
and thats what I came for and put up with…
while we were eating he was leering at all the waitresses there.. even the young 19 year old waiter (A Dude) that was really creeped out by him…. we got bad service because they were scared.. He was sarging one waitress and had her going which was amazing but then he started in again and her friends and manager told her to stay away from him…
So we pay the bill and more of his bizarre behavior was abundant and finally we left as we got back to the hotel on the way there two student i had dinner with stayed behind Ross becasue they were uncomfrotable.I went the bathroom and on the way out i said to have a safe trip home and i saw him in the reflection on the glass sliding door and he was leering again at me…
It was the WORST Dining Experience I ever had…
Theres more…
Later its reall late…
Mark
painful to listen to.. quit projecting your shit on somebody else. When you get you’re own issues handled.. you no longer have to talk shit about anybody else. You find someone like stephane ‘amusing’ rather than infuriating.
Back on the topic of Stephane and Ghita… I would just *LOVE* to see a video of Ghita banging a bunch of black men… or rather, the other way around.
Gang bang with Ghita in the mix, sucking and eating on a bunch of black men? That would make some serious $$$ to whoever published it into the community… Stephane, you listening?
gita is barely a 6…
OK I listenned to all 2 hours of it, and you dont really say anything that grabs me other than him ripping off Steve Piccus thing which sounds possible, and the genital warts thing and him using it to get girls, which seems a bit far fetched.
I gotta say Stephane seems fine apart from the ‘Dragon Butter’ story he tells, which is absolutely disgusting. It kinda makes me think something is off with the guy, and on top of that is this stuff too.
One thing I’ve learned is not to trust a guru off the internet, you really cant know that person unless you meet them and saw with your own eyes, even then you gotta be wary.
BlowTBox writes:
“You mention that Steve P and Zan are the authorities on polyamory, and I agree…They’re both Great teachers, But if they’re so good at this, WHERE IS THEIR CIRCLE?
Pics or it didn’t happen!”
As a close personal friend of both Zan and Steve P, I can speak confidently to their sincerity and validity regarding their love of women, and the depth and intensity to which that love is reciprocated.
I consider both Steve and Zan to be peers and colleagues as well, and have shared the stage with them at Cliff’s, the Real Man Conference, and many other venues over the last few years. (http://www.SchoolOfSteveP.com for instance)
Here’s some pics of MY circle, (all but the red-headed asian are playmates of mine) so if credibility is at issue
and or you just wanna see girls-at-play
(NSFW) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2899026846_47e8271cb4.jpg
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